low-key another big fuckin' problem we need to fix is that these days I cannot say "we should have leaders like FDR" without people well actuallying that statement because he wasn't a perfect leader.
none of our nation's heroes have ever been perfect yet reverence for them has a purpose.
none of our nation's heroes have ever been perfect yet reverence for them has a purpose.
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Sure he was racist, but what we're stuck with now
Sadly, Biden's about as close to an FDR since LBJ probably, maybe better than LBJ given the razor thin legislative majorities and polarization Biden was faced with
But yes, nuance is important, as is learning from the rights and wrongs of the past.
It was the height of organized labor. It's only been in free fall decline since, especially since Nixon then Reagan years.
They were *all* messed up in childhood, but FDR the least so.
It's nice that you have your favorite Spanish anarchist that you think was perfect, but honey, they were killed by the fascists, they clearly had a flaw.
A lot of people also never look at anarchist movements currently in Africa (possibly for racist reasons).
It's kind of simply what fascists do. There doesn't need to be any big reason.
That is how we grow.
Though perhaps without the racism, because Teddy was racist. -- but in terms of dealing with big business, competition and consumers - he unequivocally did great things for the US. Mr TrustBuster is needed again.
you know?
use your words?
That being said he was also a huge imperialist who backstabbed Panama
Imprisoning an entire race of Americans is not "not being perfect" its being a heinous ghoul.
Point out where his policies are effective, sure, but no reverence or respect need be required to study that.
the right has been rallying around monstrous people while the left can't decide to elevate anyone: not even a myth.
the left cannot tell stories right now. in fact this attitude reeks to me of a pure unwillingness to tell stories unless they're only full of Good Chapters.
that's just not a winning strategy.
You cannot unify that way, ever. Unity is earned, and we're here looking for shortcuts around needed self-humbling the DNC refuses doing
Some over 10mil Dems staying home who voted against Trump BEFORE communicates an issue that unity against crisis was outweighed by in their minds.
I guess because they hate welfare programs just that much(?)
which is an entirely different class of statement.
i won't engage ppl who misread something i say so blatantly, life is hard enough without people who are/seem disingenuous on bluesky.
They are tiresome and unserious.
But he's easily Top 3 in being a leader for the entire country, despite all the flaws.
Like if FDR was campaigning on new deal+internment camps that's one thing.
Hot take: there should have been a democratic primary!
The bar is so low that a half compassionate dictator would receive heaps of praise, and now I need to brush my itchy teeth.
as long as we cling to a system that relies so heavily on centralized leader figures, they're only ever going to be somewhat good to majority decent at best
It sounds like a very similar situation. History is messy, but there are good parts in the bad.
Apparently it's more important how someone looks than what they do. People want saints.
"You advocate for climate but you just did a flight between the EU and the US!!!" etc.
that chapter does not mean "learn nothing from FDR" you dolt
As something gets shared outside of its original/intended audience, the more likely that thing will be taken out of its original context and a new, hostile context will be invented out of whole cloth.
We didn't erect a statue of him in parliament square because we really, really liked what he did in India, but my word, will people let you know about it upon any utterance of positivity around Churchill.
good article about that kind of shit I came across today here on b sky dot app.
Take Vance AFB is Enid, Oklahoma for example. You will find no mention of its history anywhere online. The only evidence we get is from old timers who were there.
I had the opportunity to interview one.
Simple fact is that people don't want to be told that everything sucks and there's no reason to have hope for the future.
I feel like we can have good faith discussions about particular subjects without having to rehash the entirety of history, because it is safe to assume that we're generally aware of the bad things too.
WE ALL KNOW THAT BIGOTRY STILL EXISTS. You're not in the middle of a Trump rally. You can safely assume that we're not bigots.
You honestly think that this is productive?
This is quite literally a crisis and I'm tired of people not thinking through tactics of communication.
Those discussions have mostly already happened! Yes, there are some people who idolize FDR without knowing the full story, but it's history. He's a dead man who cannot be brought back from the dead, yet you speak like that's what I'm after.
he was telling them what they wanted to hear
- Absolutely awful
- Unrealistically perfect in the eyes of all
Average people who have average flaws are flop
We'd love a normal person doing normal things
Throwing our hands up and saying "well both are bad, so might as well take the worse one" is like eating shards of glass because you don't like the taste of spaghetti.
-Have a dick
-Have a dick
We need to stop acting like perfection is achievable and work on being the best version of ourselves we can possibly be. (Also applies to leaders.)
I want a leader to lift millions out of poverty and invest in public infrastructure that benefits as many people as possible, not be racist towards Japanese people
We need to demand better from Democrats.
Any person who insisted on a perfect leader just handed the keys to the white house to trump for possibly the foreseeable future.
They are children an dumb people though. You wouldn't have heard their idiocy 2 decades ago, but now we have the internet.
Like, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a leader who made minimum wage $50/hr and eliminated billionaires and people would still be mad at them for eating meat.