Shayne Currie has put a transcription of Hosking trying to get Luxon to answer a simple question if you can't face listening to it yourself #nzpol - ThreadSky

nzkatya.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Shayne Currie has put a transcription of Hosking trying to get Luxon to answer a simple question if you can't face listening to it yourself #nzpol

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reverendjasmine.bsky.social•3 days ago

haha wow this is great/awful

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

You couldn't get a bigger contrast to Jacinda's communication skills if you tried

jduvalsmith.bsky.social•3 days ago

Mike Hosking wanted him as PM and Mike Hosking got what he wanted.

daphnelawless.com•3 days ago

Hosking is going out of his way to tell Luxon THIS IS STUPID, I AM ON YOUR SIDE, I AM TRYING MY BEST TO HELP YOU, JUST SAY THE DAMN WORDS and Luxon is too thick to get it

awnz.bsky.social•3 days ago

The moment he pisses off Hosking, he's done.

awnz.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oops, strike that and change it to past tense.

dimsie.bsky.social•3 days ago

Luxon does this on purpose because he never wants to have a decisive statement come back to bite him on the ass. Unfortunately he is too stupid to work out which statements could easily be definitive with no pushback so he does this with every single issue. It's exhausting

kylermatthews.bsky.social•3 days ago

It’s bizarre. Surely there’s only a plus for him in saying “I would have sacked him”. Is he not aware that this nonsense talk is not helping him?

dimsie.bsky.social•3 days ago

He's "not aware" of anything! He says it himself, almost daily! Heh

kylermatthews.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ha, true!

norightturnnz.bsky.social•3 days ago

Ah, but if says he was willing to sack one Minister, people will ask why he wasn't willing to sack others who misbehave in future. Ministers from ACT and NZ First, for example...

mrschippy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Musk had more political sense and comms nous than Luxon. And that’s a pretty fucking low bar. “These were Dem political holdovers who refused to return to the office,” Musk wrote on his X platform. “They would have been fired had they not resigned.

kiwiteej.bsky.social•2 days ago

I've wondered why he was so determined not to be definitive, and this is the best answer I've seen. Just bizarre as the country's ostensible leader to not lead.

jenospeno.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think it’s because if Luxon were to say, “yes I would have sacked him had he not resigned” then there are then SO MANY follow ups that he doesn’t want anywhere near him for example: would you have sacked Karen Chhour, Casey Costello, Shane Jones, David Seymour..?

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

I think you are right. This prevarication is a result of media training but Luxon is too stupid to know when it is necessary to use and when it will just make him look dodgy

helwise1.bsky.social•3 days ago

I just like how MyCockSkin was literally begging Lux to be the tough decisive business daddy he voted for.

oblomova.bsky.social•3 days ago

It reads like a Monty Python script.

markfford.bsky.social•3 days ago

In fairness he did only say, “I would say” once in the whole exchange.

Otherwise? Where’s the leadership? It’s getting easier to see how the coalition partners are calling their shots. It’s all a bit above his pay grade.

mshooper.bsky.social•3 days ago

Babbling, incessantly and never committing himself/taking responsibility for anything - pathologically avoidant/ indecisive/ procrastinating -unless it’s about his entitlement and snobbery ! What a dud !!

kevinbleakley.bsky.social•3 days ago

This is amazing 😂

jessterraformearth.bsky.social•3 days ago

Luxon: What I'd say to you is that I have standards that my coalition partners hold me to which include never saying anything that implies I might sack anyone even for shooting someone on Cuba Street...

I've been incredibly clear on that staying in government is my only achieved KPI.
#nzpol

trabaq.bsky.social•3 days ago

Extraordinary. His obfuscation would test the patience of Job. A case study in why we should not assume a CEO will be a good politician or leader.

quellesurprisenz.bsky.social•3 days ago

No wonder Willis looks grumpier and grumpier by the day.

ryan.crawcour.social•2 days ago

I find it really hard to have any sympathy, at all.

trabaq.bsky.social•2 days ago

quellesurprisenz.bsky.social•2 days ago

In general I do too; from the perspective of a competent woman having to play second fiddle to a demonstrably incompetent man, I have a little bit more.

p-no-nwa.bsky.social•3 days ago

👇

p-no-nwa.bsky.social•3 days ago

Extraordinary.

apocalypseelf.bsky.social•3 days ago

I hate agreeing with Hosking but there you go

p-no-nwa.bsky.social•3 days ago

An amazing conversation.

fmacskasy.bsky.social•3 days ago

I still can't believe it was real.😬

aethylred.bsky.social•3 days ago

Hosking is trying, desperately, for his strong leader to show some leadership and Luxton evades

hroethgar.bsky.social•3 days ago

I’d love to know how close Hosking got to “bloody Jacinda had the balls to sack ministers why can’t you?”

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

I doubt he'd ever bring himself to praise Jacinda

hroethgar.bsky.social•3 days ago

Only as a measure of complete rage and desperation

westcoastrogue.bsky.social•3 days ago

A good read. Let's not forget though that Currie is a bad actor. IMO this could well be part of something larger.

nzkatya.bsky.social•2 days ago

I suspect there are knives being sharpened

allonsflaneur.bsky.social•3 days ago

Just going to leave this here https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=lMqYipNGScYvxTee

nicole.ashley.kiwi•3 days ago

This has long been one of my favourites but somehow I'd never seen the bit about the environment. Classic.

willpagenz.com•3 days ago

Omg. When you can't even answer the softest can't-give-a-wrong-answer softball question from your number one lickspittle there's something seriously wrong.

aimeew.bsky.social•2 days ago

He’s acted decisively? When?

Also, Clarke and Dawes couldn’t have written it better :P

aimeew.bsky.social•2 days ago

Aaaand back to my "journos should start giving scores for answering / half / not questions, with a final pass / fail at end". THEN they could set up league boards! People could bet! Politicans would be TRACKED. Like fantasy football, but useful (politicians might behave better) :P

aimeew.bsky.social•2 days ago

Also, you know you very lost when you're on the right and HOSKING is going after you.

nzkatya.bsky.social•2 days ago

Love it!

aimeew.bsky.social•2 days ago

This feels like something that would be perfect for @thespinoff.bsky.social, for example :P

Also RNZ (why they not here yet?).

ashleykiwi.bsky.social•3 days ago

Good lord!

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

Shayne Currie suggested Luxon needs more media training but that was exactly what Hoskings was trying to do and Luxon was unable to respond coherently

nicole.ashley.kiwi•3 days ago

Personally I suspect this might be the result of *too much* media training.

dejanajuk.bsky.social•3 days ago

Luxon needs more of everything. He could start with some competence and leadership skill training to name just two of the myriad areas where he needs schooling. Bloody hell.

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

Waste of time and effort. He doesn't listen to advice because he is narcissistic

hamo.bsky.social•3 days ago

I could not, so thanks!

gringene.org•3 days ago

I'm just amazed that Hosking is not soft balling the National Party.

Are the right-aligned media *finally* losing confidence in our government?

When's the vote of no confidence going to be made?

fmacskasy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Here's the thing. If Luxon goes into the next election talking like that, the Nats will lose. Voters will view such an exchange with disbelief and go, "Yeah, nah", and vote ABC (Anyone But Chris)

#NationalNotFitToGovern

gringene.org•3 days ago

Yes, but there's no need to wait for the next election. If the MPs *already* have no confidence in the current way things are being governed, then it can be removed through a no confidence vote.

ryan.crawcour.social•2 days ago

There isn't a single MP that has the spine to do this.

fmacskasy.bsky.social•2 days ago

A flying saucer will land on the White House lawns before that happens, sorry to say, David...

#NationalNotFitToGovern

mckeenphotos.bsky.social•3 days ago

That’s an interesting read

grantkmcdougall.bsky.social•3 days ago

That is car crash reading.

basementjatzz.bsky.social•3 days ago

We need to grant journos the power to slap politicians upside the head when they do this

bauhausandmies.bsky.social•3 days ago

Imagine working for this pillock.

nzkatya.bsky.social•3 days ago

I wouldn't last the day

bauhausandmies.bsky.social•3 days ago

Me either

tairawhitidoc.bsky.social•3 days ago

That.....that's just painful to read (and would have been worse to listen to).

catherinejmckenzie.bsky.social•3 days ago

It WAS painful to listen to. 😂
First time I've listened to Hoskings forever but worth it in this case.

jenospeno.bsky.social•3 days ago

I couldn’t listen and now I’ve read it I’m pleased I didn’t. Luxon’s definitely a goneburger after that train wreck of an interview 😬

philbstewart.bsky.social•3 days ago

Great Dunning-Kruger case study right there.

ryan.crawcour.social•2 days ago

This is extraordinary, and not in a good way.

fmacskasy.bsky.social•1 day ago

I just realised something, Katya...

It took a RW National-supporting medial personality to call out Luxon's mealy-mouthed, corporate-speak.

Up umntil now he's barely been challenged over it.

But now he has. And in a very public way.

Journos in Vietname were putting that same question to... (1)

fmacskasy.bsky.social•1 day ago

...cliched, repetitive word salads.

I wouldnt be surprised if all that has come to a crashing end and journos will be less willing to accept his corporate-style talking-points without push-back.

Love him or loathe him,Hosking has led the way &reminded his colleagues what their jobs are.

(3/3)

nzkatya.bsky.social•1 day ago

I loathe Hosking, but if he has shamed the press gallery into demanding Luxon answer questions coherently then that will be great. I hope they also stop letting him get away with saying he can't answer a question because he hasn't been briefed

peteraranyi.bsky.social•1 day ago

Yes, Luxon's convenient (or feigned?) ignorance of the issues of the day has become tiresome. It was always implausible.

fmacskasy.bsky.social•1 day ago

...him and he was forced to give a straight "yes" answer.

But only because a supposedly friendly interview unexpectedly turned feral,and Hosking reverted to bei ng a real journalists.

Editors & News bosses around the country must've been p*ssed of that theyve been too tolerant of Luxon's...

(2)

fmacskasy.bsky.social•2 days ago

When even a National Party supporter like Hosking gets tired of parrotted talking points & challenges our inept Landlord PM - what does that say about other journalists who have not been doing their job to dig past spin?

nzkatya.bsky.social•2 days ago

Nothing good. Let's hope this gives them the incentive

fmacskasy.bsky.social•3 days ago

It's hard to tell if that conversation is parody or not.

But one thing is for certain; that is why Luxon's rati ng have plummetted. He simply can't communicate like ordinary people.

jenospeno.bsky.social•3 days ago

He simply can’t communicate.

fmacskasy.bsky.social•2 days ago

Remember when in 2023, Luxon and his minders complained that he wasnt high in Preferred PM Ratings because "people didnt know him"?

Well, people *DO* know him.

And like Hosking, they think he is pathetic. Not a leader, but a "manager". The two are not always the same thing. #NationalNotFitToGovern

fmacskasy.bsky.social•3 days ago

Patrick Gower on THAT train wreck interview:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360594324/paddy-gower-mike-hoskings-takedown-pms-corporate-waffle-has-done-us-all-favour

fmacskasy.bsky.social•3 days ago

In case anyone can stomach watching the Luxon-Hosking exchange.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4KzcDRRKaNM

bee-d.bsky.social•3 days ago

He cant think, spell, do maths or communicate AT ALL

jenospeno.bsky.social•3 days ago

What a dud 😳

helwise1.bsky.social•3 days ago

May blessings abound for Shayne.

janerefreshed.bsky.social•3 days ago

He wouldn't have sacked him is all I can conclude as well as he has standards that he can't even name -you can't even say he has any standards if he can't spell out what they are.

locuslebe.bsky.social•3 days ago

What a crackup... Luxon might actually be good at something.... the 'don't say yes or no' challenge on 7 Days

jenchef.bsky.social•3 days ago

Weasel words? Does this man really think he's a Prime Minister?

kittentoes.bsky.social•3 days ago

It was giving "What day is fathers day" vibes when I was listening to the interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjlo3-V4_hA&t=117s

dawgbelly.bsky.social•3 days ago

It’s really telling, he cldnt have had an interviewer try harder to help him out.

dialogcrm.bsky.social•3 days ago

Hosking tried so hard it reminds me of this song

"How bizarre
How bizarre, how bizarre
Ooh, baby (ooh, baby)
It's making me crazy (it's making me crazy)
Every time I look around (look around)..."

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