I can't imagine the likes of Trump delivering any kind of hip swaggering rockabilly-style Vegas revue, which the likes of Elvis was so good at.
I CAN imagine Vintage Biden (tm) doing something though. But, like when one could do insane medical experiments on orphans, those days have long passed.
Paul (or Saul, whatever) made the death of Jesus such a big deal for Christianity, although Christians are still upset that he died supposedly for their sins. It's very strange logic.
If Jesus showed up today I think we all know that it is the people marching around vehemently calling themselves Christians that would be crucifying him; too bad they can’t see that
If he ever existed, he was probably happy to die.
He had a father who murdered all but a boat full of people and animals.
A father who didn’t even ask his mother to father his child.
This God sounds a right laugh.
They went the opposite direction of his word. Love thy neighbor, welcome foreigners, forgive debt. They said "You know what? I prefer capitalism". Jesus has been voted out.
Even more relevantly, and for the benefit of those familiar with the religious and political sitution during his life he was cancelled because Religious Conservatives wanted to hold onto their secular power while ignoring the moral and ethical underpinnings of their purported beliefs.
And Socrates. And many others according to Fox’s book of Martyrs. In fact, one could say such actions against people are largely anti Christian in nature.
I'm an immigrant in favor of loans forgiven, free Healthcare, accepting immigrants, against pedophilia, against the rich, against grifters, against wickedness, against adultery, etc.
So yeah, if there's a group that doesn't want me here I bet you can figure it out.
I understand this is a political statement, but cancelling or not cancelling the Christ is irrelevant, from the perspective of the Second Coming. Alternatively, cancel/not cancel is VERY MUCH relevant, from the individual's perspective. Peace.
The genuinely interesting question is which thing would he be cancelled for. I think not charging an alcohol price minimum for wine. Trespassing on a lake. I assume you're allowed to ride a donkey if it's not obviously hurting it. And he does look thin in the pictures.
The opening salvo is equally odd. 'I got an honor from the Prince, but I believe in equality. I spoke to the elder and he said I'd earned it' - not sure that's really the equality issue when getting baubles from princes.
the more I think about this, I bet the conversation went 'should I accept it, given equality?' 'look, you earned the thing, but it's about whether a prince is a legitimate.....oh she's gone'
I’ve often said that good antipsychotics and behavioral therapy would’ve led to most of these “prophets” leading well adjusted and objectively happier lives - for some they might’ve even avoided being burned at the stake and such.
He was canceled 2000 or so years ago, then resurrected in the name of a crumbling Roman Empire a few hundred years later and misrepresented ever since, for the most part and particularly by leaders and conquerors.
I agree...
I studied the abrahamic texts closely, as well as their history and origins.
Modern western world Christians are as far from Jesus's teachings as east is from west. Can't blame them, they don't know.
Perhaps, but it seems a majority voted for a man who is the opposite of Jesus in every way, you are hard pressed to find conservative values in Jesus's teachings in the gospels, and there is a mass litany of modern Christian ideas and narratives that don't match the 1st century faith AT ALL.
I don't disagree there are people who reneged in the faith in Christ to uphold the charlatans espousing conservativism. Yet many of us Christians voted for Harris.
This secular nation in 2024 has sown a poor harvest. For most religion practiced today is half-earnest.
The Canonical depictions of JC presented him as advocating an inclusive faith ("Everyone's welcome!") with few conditions or rituals. That didn't wash with far too many faith leaders over the centuries, who added their own prejudices, terms, conditions and exclusions...
A lot of the splintering of the faith into thousands of different variations-on-a-theme were driven by disputes over which Ts, Cs and Es to apply - and as evidenced by today's US Religious Right, some diverged far enough to have an almost polar opposite ideology to Canonical depictions of JC.
Yeah, I mean, for 1,900 years, Christians didn't care about certain issues. Then, in the 19th century, it became politically advantageous to turn one into an issue, with no scriptural backing. From then on, it was a core political issue of the faith. Sad really...
What exactly does she think Jesus would be cancelled for, in today's world? People today are mostly cancelled for longtime covered-up sexual assault and public bigotry. Did Jesus do either of those things?
Lol no.
He will be tagged as a dangerous activist by the power.
Ecologist activist or something like that.
And surely disappointed about the religion he contributed to create and the lack of tolerance everywhere and mostly in christianism.
... Today, Jesus would overturn the tables on every Evangelical preacher who lives in multi-million dollar homes.
They will then bring Jesus before SCOTUS.
Then, SCOTUS voice is heard saying. Who shall be set free. Jesus or the convicted felon. The rest is history ...
Christian’s believe they have saved this country by who they have elected, how does the tree with the fruit it has picked matched up to Christ. 4 years now 30% who attend might be 10% but probably 5% the church has been killed
it's weird that non religious people have grasped on total the "well what if he wasn't white" thing because like nobody thinks that it matters what race he was
Even in catholic, non-US countries (like mine), Jesus, and the holy family in general, is depicted as hhhwite. Depicting him otherwise would leave my countrymen bewildered.
I presume you don't know much about or have forgotten the whole white-power-coded movement of pentecostal / God wants you to be rich (tm), and other branches of "Christianity", but they're very big on Jesus looking and acting like a clean-cut Nazi Willie Nelson.
It's wonderful to look at people defending their believes and affirming that their fantasies are better or righter than other's ones.
Every single statement on Jesus life is based on tales passed from mouth to mouth for centuries, and carefully selected to pursue the interests of singles.
The book is based on the words of other people, exactly the same as all the other books, officially recognized or not. There are only few non religious texts that talk about him and none of them reports all the fantasies reported on Christian books. You should study history, not religion.
The only proved fact is that about 2000 years ago, a man who lived in Palestine was a reference for a group of people. We don't know almost anything else with certainty. And people today is fighting, killing, hating, persecuting other people for the some tales invented 20 centuries ago.
There is a great deal of tension between those who claim to be "Progressive Christianity" and what the books of the Bible include, or the early Christians wrote.
Yes, yes, but she's talking about the other Jesus. You know the blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus who hates everyone and everything and would destroy the world to prove how much they love him!
Perhaps the opposite can be said also, for believers, Christ might do a bit more than 'cancel'. Now I don't talk about religion much but just saying if he were to return... well it may not end well for quite a few.
You can be cancelled with nails, thorns, dehydration and a spear in the ribs; or be cancelled by only writing for the Spectator with just twice yearly appearances on Question Time. Tough choice.
With apologies to Mel Brooks, the right seems to think that comedy is when they kill you and tragedy is when you don’t want to interact with them anymore.
Really? First of all - who is "they"? Secondly, I never stopped walking with Jesus, talking with Him, listening to "Him and using his name in saying things like "Merry Christmas". No one canceled (nor could they) from my life.
This is the dumbest thing I've seen here today! And there's already been a guy who said that Reform UK must win the next election because there are no British people in London!
Well things seemed to go OK for him - seen his gaff?
(It’s in Rome)
However, I take your point which is (technically) correct. Jesus of Nazareth did, actually, start a sect.
Before you point it out, I acknowledge that it was a Judaic sect rather than Christian.
Not cancelled, but a middle-eastern man preaching for open-borders, feeding the poor, caring for the sick, and just generally being a respectful person to all people probably wouldn’t be all that liked by certain groups.
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Impoverished, sandal-shod immigrant.
...in fried banana sandwiches and drugs.
In all fairness, even if Elvis WAS still alive today, he'd be 89 years old, which is still young if he wanted to run for U.S. President.
I CAN imagine Vintage Biden (tm) doing something though. But, like when one could do insane medical experiments on orphans, those days have long passed.
He had a father who murdered all but a boat full of people and animals.
A father who didn’t even ask his mother to father his child.
This God sounds a right laugh.
Who are these dumb f**ks?
I'm an immigrant in favor of loans forgiven, free Healthcare, accepting immigrants, against pedophilia, against the rich, against grifters, against wickedness, against adultery, etc.
So yeah, if there's a group that doesn't want me here I bet you can figure it out.
I studied the abrahamic texts closely, as well as their history and origins.
Modern western world Christians are as far from Jesus's teachings as east is from west. Can't blame them, they don't know.
Christ identified the archetype, whited sepulchers who profess righteousness but actions are opposite.
They do not stand in Christ, but on sand.
This secular nation in 2024 has sown a poor harvest. For most religion practiced today is half-earnest.
"What? Blessed are the meek? Be kind to those that curse you? Look after the poor? But what about the shareholders!?"
Tribulations are coming from nature and from men.
He will be tagged as a dangerous activist by the power.
Ecologist activist or something like that.
And surely disappointed about the religion he contributed to create and the lack of tolerance everywhere and mostly in christianism.
They will then bring Jesus before SCOTUS.
Then, SCOTUS voice is heard saying. Who shall be set free. Jesus or the convicted felon. The rest is history ...
These fake culture war asswipes make me sick
I presume you don't know much about or have forgotten the whole white-power-coded movement of pentecostal / God wants you to be rich (tm), and other branches of "Christianity", but they're very big on Jesus looking and acting like a clean-cut Nazi Willie Nelson.
https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706
But then he was picked up by another network and renewed for a second season—which went on forever and completely ruined the original character.
Have none of you heard of progressive Christianity?
I'm surprised by all these apparent experts of Christians not knowing about this, which currently includes the Pope
Every single statement on Jesus life is based on tales passed from mouth to mouth for centuries, and carefully selected to pursue the interests of singles.
The book of Mark was written around 70 AD, when people who knew Christ personally were still alive and dying as martyrs for their faith.
Please get educated.
Or a lot of somethings.
Favorite word of theologians: "tension".
There is a great deal of tension between those who claim to be "Progressive Christianity" and what the books of the Bible include, or the early Christians wrote.
The beliefs of evangelicals in the USA are in tension with the Word of Jesus.
The Bible was assembled by a bunch of male priests at the behest of an emperor who sought to harness the power of faith.
Of course, there is tension.
"That's for those tradesman's copies like the Sun and Mirror".
Crucifixion, cancellation...whatever.
'If Christ were alive today, he'd be deported.'
(It’s in Rome)
However, I take your point which is (technically) correct. Jesus of Nazareth did, actually, start a sect.
Before you point it out, I acknowledge that it was a Judaic sect rather than Christian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammon