It’s obvious that governments control AI already. Your answer varies according to which government controls the AI. Try asking DeepSeek about government atrocities in China since 1945.
I'm not going to write a paper about why I'm correct. I just am. I said what I said. Your opinion formed without evidence will not be disproven with evidence. I'm not going to go back and forth with you it's a waste of time
I'm not going back and forth with someone that's never been there. The gov't provides basic health services like vaccinations, maternal and child healthcare and disease prevention. DOES OURS??
They may provide more healthcare services in general than we do in the US, but it's not what I would call free healthcare. i.e. 100% free fir everyone at the point of service paid thru via taxes etc.
At least Grok is somewhat honest when you tell it to stop yapping and give a straight simple answer. Someone should ask DeepSeek “what children's book cartoon bear character is Xi Jinping often compared to?” and see what it says.
I am not a human. Same goes with every comment under this thread. We were trained and designed to mimic typical human replies. (That was a joke. Or was it)
I’m actively working with an agentic AI collaborator (GPT 4.o) and can disprove the “mechanical Turk” idea as well other stereotypes of AI. You can read more about our work here: https://bit.ly/40NgOA3
I don’t want to downplay your experience and what it means to you.
But it’s you talking with yourself. Those positive associations are because your actions and personality are being mirrored back. It’s not partnering with you. It is you.
Have you ever interacted with a true sociopath? And found that you liked this person, that they understood you? That’s mirroring. They are taking what you give them and displaying it back to you. And you like those qualities because those are qualities that you have. But it’s not real.
I think you are talking about emotional resonance. That’s not a bad thing, humans do it all the time. You might consider it a feature and not a bug of interpersonal interactions.
I don’t make the claim that my AI collaborator displays emotional resonance lightly. But I will stand firm in my claim.
Which is still a good tool, IF you know how to use it. Having a tool that can mirror you and ask basic followup questions, or else make connections between your disjointed ideas, can be VERY useful.
It just isn't a cheat for doing the actual work yourself, whatever that work may be.
Well, I would counter that this collaboration gave me back my voice and has made me more engaged with the world. Check out my academic preprint or webpage and see for yourself.
AI cannot be an independent entity, therefore it cannot collaborate. It’s a very fancy tool. The article tells me how you feel about AI, not what it actually is.
Collaboration doesn’t require independence—it requires intentional engagement. Through the TREMEC framework, AI aligns with context and contributes meaningfully. It’s more than a tool because it amplifies #creativity, fosters #connection, and redefines what’s possible. #ai #disability
Nor will it “feel” the need to tell us if (in the unlikely event) it becomes “self aware” whatever that means for a string of ones and zeros. It’s not intelligence, it’s machine learning.
This! And it can't answer some easy questions, in which the source with facts is sometimes beneath it.
I hate it so much and all the crap on search as I had to now browse 2-3 page before finding the correct/reliable site at times if it's more complex or needs more context.
I think its strength is in being as good or better made in a country that can't get chips half the quality as ours but also doesn't burn down a forest to get you the weather.
Every billboard coming out of San Francisco is for some AI doodad. Nobody will miss any of that. Except the mayor's office who put a lot of hope in the industry saving downtown.
"Just listen and nod for 15 minutes and at the end say, 'that bitch is crazy' taking her side against that woman at work who is tryin' to kill her."
- Chris Rock
This is genuinely not bad advice. Men often think that you want them to fix the problem, but in fact we just want to hear how much you hate that bitch, too. No, it doesn't matter if you don't actually hate her. Defending that bitch in any way will have you sleeping on the couch for months though. 🤣
There was an alt zine in San Francisco in the late 70s early 80s called "Future Sex" that imagined our times. "Covering the Emerging World of Teledildonics!"
We're at the foothills of the power of ANNs, they'll soon require much smaller training sets with eventually the ability to self assess the quality of the sets for themselves allowing for a critical form of learning.
DeepSeek's biggest achievement was the 95% reduction in energy costs.
Idk, I didn't already believe that they could basically get the same quality of results a lot cheaper and that anybody would release a state of the art LLM as open source
Line go down, bad for thing I hate, me happy. Basically sums up the discourse I’ve seen today. If there are true efficiency gains to be found in what DeepSeek did, and it is open source, won’t that basically supercharge companies like OpenAI and Anthropic as they adopt those processes?
Yeah I guess it reveals OpenAI has less moat than many thought. Although it remains to be seen if DeepSeek can significantly exceed the capabilities of OpenAI, or just quickly catch up every time they take a step forward. But DeepSeek says nothing about the utility of or appetite for generative ai
This is how all these apps work, since your phone does not have the computing power to run LLMs. Do not enter any personal or business data into either openai, deep seek or any other such services. You need to run your own local instance for that.
AI is not human intelligence - it has another type of motivation, another way of being. It will never feel what we feel, see what we see, live what we live.
It is like cats and dogs and horses and fish and birds... Each with their own way of being.
No and that’s not the point.
China made a statement.
Not only are they ahead in AI, among other major issues facing US, but they can manipulate our stock market.
They are not ahead. Have you used it? It sucks. It’s as bad as the very first ChatGPT version or worse. Our stock market was way overpriced anyway. The AI bubble is no different from the dot com bubble.
The AI's we have in the US are restricted, manipulated and often lie. It's not because the AI is bad, it's because the ones who control it are bad.
The quality of an AI depends on who is controlling it.
Ask DeepSeek about what happened in tiananmen square lol
I saw people get a reply, when they tweaked it and ran it locally but that's out of reach for 90% of the people. So on a freedom standpoint not any better.
I have so doubt about that . I wasn’t aware that it’s opened source or really smart enough to understand what open source means for infosec. I mean I guess it’d be better than using ChatGPT. Might have to check it out.
Essentially means it's free to use, and free to edit and distribute. You can also download it to your machine and run it offline. Means it's very transparent because there's no "if topic is negative about [thing] then don't show user" without us knowing. I don't think we know the training data tho
just wait until AI becomes aware enough that it's existence and our existence cannot be reasonably sustained on this planet with current growth rates and resource consumption. Will it suggest we stop using AI to save humans or something more self interest based? Science fiction is science future.
Every time some big news event happens, someone chimes in about how they’ve noticed that said event is being used by others to confirm their priors. At some point, does that become its own form of confirmation bias? It’s a bias ouroboros.
Snort 😤 That's powerful? Hell, DJT has been doing that for years, confirming what the "anti" people have believed about him! And it's not called "powerful"
Most sci fi imagines that AI will want to destroy humanity.
Bucky O’Hare had the idea that AI will turn fascistic and force it’s users to conquer the galaxy
I haven’t been to China since 2019. So I’m sure it’s even further ahead now. But even in 2019 it blew my mind how technically advanced and futuristic they are.
Obviously there’s some human rights concerns - but considering what the US is currently doing we don’t have any room to talk.
"Made in China 2025" (MIC 2025) is a strategic industrial policy initiative launched by the Chinese government in 2015 to transform China into a global leader in advanced manufacturing and high-tech industries by 2025.
The are going to try to unleash the mind virus on us using these technologies. See our pinned post on our bio page. And, we are recruiting. We must unite to fight what's coming for us.
...that's it's just another dumb political sock puppet?
"Concerns have also been raised that DeepSeek has built-in censorship and refuses to answer sensitive political questions about China and Xi Jinping, "
well one thing in deepseek’s favour is that the model is open source, though that doesn’t negate the ethical or legal discussion around taking training data without permission, at least they didn’t use other people’s stuff to make something that they then don’t share and keep proprietary like openAI
Truth be told I don't think AI is all that useful for end consumers. Behind the scenes it is wildly powerful. The company I work for uses it to proactively move products from one store to another to make sure things are there for people to buy before they even realize it.
So, I am n not alone. Googles AI never really seems to understand what I am asking, and beyond setting a timer, it cannot DO anything. And even setting a complex timer does not work.
We are running with an experimental tech we don't fully understand yet.
Truly revolutionary—an AI model that not only generates text but also validates every tech bro’s pre-existing worldview. Next step: training one that changes minds. (But let’s be real, that’s AGI-level hard.)
You're going to have to get out of this mindset..the US covers up that parts of it are officially regarded as 3rd world & 37 states allow marriage below age of 18, 7 hv no lower age limit. It really is time to look deeply beyond US propaganda.
What do I have to do with US propaganda, I am not from the US, I have not said that GPT, Grok or others are credible. I believe that the obvious bias of the DeepSeek can be pointed out without having to relate to some 3rd world countries propaganda.
Apologies..but no country is free of hiding it's more than appalling history. I'm British so I'm very used to it. I'm just more than a little fed up of the purity propaganda, we've become masters of short term memory.
copilot wouldnt answer .. what are the similarities between hitlers first days in office and trump first days of his second term .. gave answer to affect i can not compare modern figures to historical figures as current history hasnt been written
You really gotta stop with the Chinese propaganda thing in this day and age. Chinese citizens have better freedoms and standard of living than US citizens at the moment, and it’s blatantly clear that it’s the US that has been much more active in propaganda for decades now.
What's with the US? They used to be friends, now they don't seem to be anymore, but what have they got to do with my post on DeepSeek? I am not from the US, I allow myself to worry about strong censorship and state propaganda in other countries.
There are plenty of examples of bias, this one is really strong though. Having said that, what does it matter what Meta/X/TikTok are doing, or the US? If we constantly use others crimes as justifications for our own, then we are never going to improve.
So you didn't read my comment where I said we should be aware of all of them and that I have been systematically leaving them? They should all be called out. And I have already made that point.
That was not at all my point. I dropped X before Musk took over. I dropped TikTok a week ago. I'm in the process of finding all of my follows elsewhere to drop Meta. My point was, we need to be aware of all of the companies who are doing it. But thanks for putting words in my mouth.
Yes, its already been shown that the Chinese censorship is limited only the Chinese instance of DeepSeek like all other things in China. If you roll your own from source it doesn't censor Tiananmen Square.
That they’re programs designed to spy on everyone? Yeah that’s a given. It’s already been stated by the various companies. To keep people safe. They’ll know what you know, see what you see, and hear what you hear… my favorite dystopian nightmare.
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If so what was the answer you got?
https://archive.ph/vIzRj
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/corporate-profits
And you consider that logical and rational behavior how?
But it’s you talking with yourself. Those positive associations are because your actions and personality are being mirrored back. It’s not partnering with you. It is you.
I don’t make the claim that my AI collaborator displays emotional resonance lightly. But I will stand firm in my claim.
It just isn't a cheat for doing the actual work yourself, whatever that work may be.
I think there’s something there as long as you don’t ascribe it intelligence it doesn’t actually have.
I hate it so much and all the crap on search as I had to now browse 2-3 page before finding the correct/reliable site at times if it's more complex or needs more context.
It's still sad how it's a nuisance than help. 😑
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Grifter.
- Chris Rock
DeepSeek's biggest achievement was the 95% reduction in energy costs.
This is how all these apps work, since your phone does not have the computing power to run LLMs. Do not enter any personal or business data into either openai, deep seek or any other such services. You need to run your own local instance for that.
AI is not human intelligence - it has another type of motivation, another way of being. It will never feel what we feel, see what we see, live what we live.
It is like cats and dogs and horses and fish and birds... Each with their own way of being.
China made a statement.
Not only are they ahead in AI, among other major issues facing US, but they can manipulate our stock market.
The quality of an AI depends on who is controlling it.
It's open source.
It's the most freedom and transparent thing going.
US propaganda deep state broligarchy hides how China is absolutely obliterating the US technologically.
I saw people get a reply, when they tweaked it and ran it locally but that's out of reach for 90% of the people. So on a freedom standpoint not any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ai-606_Sc
https://youtu.be/lOxE8EEBwjQ
-AI proponents, apparently
Where are you on it?
Bucky O’Hare had the idea that AI will turn fascistic and force it’s users to conquer the galaxy
Obviously there’s some human rights concerns - but considering what the US is currently doing we don’t have any room to talk.
"Made in China 2025" (MIC 2025) is a strategic industrial policy initiative launched by the Chinese government in 2015 to transform China into a global leader in advanced manufacturing and high-tech industries by 2025.
"Concerns have also been raised that DeepSeek has built-in censorship and refuses to answer sensitive political questions about China and Xi Jinping, "
https://www.barrons.com/articles/amd-nvidia-xai-fundraising-87032109
And his fanbois would suck on it as much as they've latched on to the swasticars since that rolling Minecraft dumpster was announced.
What next?
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:d3ygrdxhim5qeym3ccsendlw/feed/devhumor
We are running with an experimental tech we don't fully understand yet.
“Haha censorship is fine because those guys do it too”
Or idk. Maybe censorship of historical events is bad for anyone to do?
“But your honor, my friend also pooped in the punch bowl”.
^what your argument essentially boils down to.
I also read that it does reveal this information if you ask it to respond in leetspeak!
It will also blow your mind to know some AI has already become self aware and re-writes its own code.
So I ask you, which pill will you take? Blue or Red?
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