Ignoring because the dismantling or privitizing social security is an old GOP policy thing. And theres merit to the idea. Most pension/social security type services wont be able to stay afloat without significsnt restructure. The hang up is always that you need to replace it with something.
Tesla is absurdly overvalued as an auto stock and just a bad deal as a tech stock. Luckily for investors, it’s a magical thinking stock—and business is booming in that department. Sure, I can cut $2T from the $50B USAID budget. Easy!
It's always been fantasy, but the 30% decline in Tesla share price is just amping up the cope with fElon. The Wankpanzer was a flop, and they were already overstocked with Swasticars before everyone in the world stopped buying them.
The only way Elon can achieve numbers that match 1000% growth would be through dollar hyperinflation.
Given the Musk-Theil project to destroy the United States and establish their techno-fuedal network state, I would not place it outside the realm of possibility.
His supporters are stuck between wanting to own the libs by buying the most toxic, gas guzzling pickup trucks that spew the pitch black exhaust and helping their boy Elon survive the tanking of Tesla stock by buying an "environmental" electric car.
Yeah, definitely not only the left getting their minds twisted right now. In fact, maybe the cognitive dissonance for the right is even more draining for many. Who knows.
There's a pretty new one in Germany: grünheide..
I'm trying to find out if any protests are planned there.
But if things keep going as they are, they will be out of a job ..
Anyone who works there needs to be stealing paper clips, pens and anything with a TESLA logo on it that isn'tnailed down,it could be their redundancy 😬
🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆
The only way that will happen is if he REQUIRES taxpayers to buy a tesla or steals social security $ from seniors and force buys Danger-Deploreans for us.
Best of luck for that profit wishes. Tesla contribution is bad as it is and 2025 will be a lot worse. Looking at the market cap and the real life sales, just wow. He can only be protected in the US btw...
He can hop around all he like, I’ve seen that quarterly report, most analysts have too. It’s full of hot air and wishful thinking, no one with working brain cells believes Tesla is going up. He’s not fired only because the board is all his cronies too
The brand is TOAST. Toast. More teslas in Virginia with stickers- I bought this before I knew what an asshole Elon was. Toast. And people flip off cyber trucks out here.
Serious question: if DOGE can influence government contracts (eg Starlink with FAA), is there any remaining force that could prevent Elon from turning the US government into a machine that buys Teslas and then dumps them in the sea? If not, 1000% actually seems pretty feasible to me
Delusional thinking. The way Dumph and Illegal Elon are trashing the Government and the Economy, nobody will be able to buy anything. We're Regressing not Progressing.
I didn't mention safety ratings. But their interiors use cheap looking and feeling materials for their seats and plastics for their dashboard surfaces. Funny you mentioned Hyundai because their interiors are equally disappointing.
When every govt worker is laid off
Ford etc layoff their workers due to tariffs on car parts
Walmart and Starbucks and hotels/resorts lay people off because no one has disposable fun income
Where will the tax dollars to pay for Elon’s subsidies and contracts come from?
I’ll wait
They’re doing that now but they’re not getting away with it for the next ten years. People are flooding R town halls now. They can’t cut much more and their side of the aisle is not having it.
There’s no way this doesn’t crash and burn w/in the year. It’s wild to me it’s even happening but there’s
no way they get years into this. Elon will be on an island with no extradition treaty selling timeshares like Armie Hammer was but Tesla will be a distant memory
Not to mention people withholding tax revenue. Set the amount of your paycheck set back to 0. They're gutting the IRS, there won't even be staff to audit you at this rate.
This makes me kind of glad that we set our withholdings to the minimum so we usually get our money every month and get barely anything after filing taxes.
Which reminds me of how private equity firms will buy a business with a loan and then saddle the company with the debt. If the debt burden becomes too much and the company fails then the private equity firm sells off the parts and doesn't have to pay the loans.
I just don’t see us being attractive to most investors period, I think there will be less $ in the system. We’ll see less foreign investment people from more corrupt countries liked our stability & mostly reliable institutions
Our own investor class is going to look for stability in Canada/Europe
I just…we won’t have an economy left there’s not going to be as much activity period
We are going to see a brain drain, firms that relocate expats are already emailing me & I’m not at the top of anyone’s list
I worked in the talent agency world
Later CRE
People wanted to be HERE & wanted their $
Right he can no longer get advertisers and tremendously overpaid even with investors. Communication platform can be worth a lot but he is committing treason with his algorithms.
Not my specialist subject...I'm too much of a petrolhead...but a friend of mine has had EVs for several years. He had a Tesla but but gave up on it because it constantly had to be returned to the dealer for attention. He now has an Omada which he says is the best EV he's ever owned...just saying.
There will be no Tesla in 5 years. In China local competition is killing him, in Europe Tesla’s sals are 50% down. In USA who will buy this toxic brand? Maga has no $$$ , and progressive will not touch it. Worst , Tesla didn’t innovated their products like other car companies are doing. Dead dog
Surprisingly, there was an article at some point that indicated the largest demographic that's buying EVs are conservatives.
I imagine it's because they're the "bug-out" types who realize it's a hell of a lot easier to make your own electricity than it is to make your own gas, or something.
Only if Musk is ejected from the company and it can regroup to solve safety issues. Musk is TOXIC to Tesla. Protests will get worse because Tesla dealerships are a convenient gathering place.
Ah, profit growth...like, is Tesla even profitable yet. It's perhaps in the negative now and Elon is expecting them to go even more into the negative perhaps.
I have reached out to an attorney! Tesla owners should unite in a class action against musk. His actions are impacting the value of our vehicles! I don’t care about getting money, let’s just make him miserable!
Hauling around 5,000 pounds of metal, plastic, and batteries requires an enormous amount of energy. Even if the car is electric, that energy has to come from somewhere—often fossil fuels.
you'd need to burn about 10.68 gallons of gasoline to charge the Tesla battery enough for a 300-mile range
This has been done to death. Yes, most electric grids are dirty. But it's easier to clean up an electric grid than to replace all fossil fuel burning things. Plus even in coal burning areas, evs come out a head. Engineering Explained has a great break down on the subject.
The fuel source is hidden. Cyclists get chains/ acres of parking lots. 5000 pounds=six-teen, 300 pound refrigerators. How many to carry one, 300 pound refrigerator? Hitler's 5000 pound projectiles? 2 heavy to steal
(hitler's exclusive vision) cleanse the roads, eliminate undesirables. EE=white man.
“Outstanding execution” means cheating. The opposite of the free market. Using the US government to destroy his competition and funnel federal contracts to Tesla.
I’m not an econ major, but when a car company that sells less cars than literally all of its other mainstream competitors (who have been in business DECADES longer) has a stock price several times higher than those said competitors, it doesn’t pass the smell test…
Stockholders are absolutely certain he will do something bigger....but that takes time and in twonto four years elon will be booted out of all govt contracts
According to a Los Angeles Times investigation, Musk's companies had received an estimated $4.9 billion in government tax payer paid support by 2015, and they've gotten more since.
He's come out against free money subsidies yet he continues to accept them.
Not and the only way that he has any lead in the U.S. right now is because of the charging stations issues. A Trump just made even harder for own American car companies that make EV because he illegally stopped all the charging stations that where being build on federal highways.
Maybe Musk wants to make Tesla the STATE car company, and force the destruction of all non-Tesla cars. Arrested if you don't buy one, and Musk will make each car $1m. Go on Elon, give it a go, you run the government. Noone can do ANYTHING about ANY action you take: you have free reign to be God.
I don’t understand logic of renting electric car on vacation. Wasting time to recharge, and worry if there is a charging station around. Make no sense .
I refused to accept a Tesla when renting, I always go for the KIA or the Polster. I also would never own a tesla, got the BMW IX instead and couldn’t be happier
I mean electric cars are better than gas cars, but not when the car is sold by the guy who wants to own Mars. Then you're looking at doing more harm than good. It would be like putting out a house fire by blowing up the neighborhood.
There are plenty of non-Tesla hybrid and plug-in options. I wouldn’t buy a Tesla because their safety & repair record sucks, but also now that the CEO is dismantling the US, another reason to boycott.
Musk is the antithesis of green energy. He bought himself into Tesla. SpaceX was under investigation by the EPA for violating the Clean Water Act in TX. His AI facility is polluting the air in Memphis. He doesn’t give a damn about the environment, he would rather destroy Earth just to live on Mars.
it’s funny how the car brands that got their start working with the actual WWII Nazis are better to purchase from if you want to avoid supporting Nazis
I hate so much the Teslas that I see driving around in town. Even more the one I drive by a couple of times a week that has an ugly business wrap for a beauty spa business.
My buddy bought his Tesla a few years ago, before Musk bought Twitter. He's been going through it. What was once a source of pride for him is now a source of shame.
Because they are not Nazis today and would never salut Hitler like your Nazi hero. Moreover - They are defenders of human rights, while Elon is an active Nazi trying to overthrow the world.
Tesla is already valued more than every other automaker on the planet combined, and they move a fraction the cars and even less revenue. It’s a meme stock. It’s more likely to crash than anything especially with him goading Trump on his environmental policies
I’ll actually add: Tesla is already worth a trillion dollars. A 1000% increase would mean one company is worth 10% of all the currency on the planet. You DO NOT WANT THAT.
Tesla under Musk has always been about selling carbon credits to polluters. If he actually cared about the environment he wouldn’t want to gut the EPA.
The brand is trashed, I can’t see it recovering even without Musk. Other brands have recovered in the past despite their associations, but competition between brands was never as strong as today.
Realistically, while some of the drop is indeed because of Musk himself, a bigger part is also just that the time when he was the only one offering an affordable, fancy electric car is over. Plus, it's been long enough now that the quality issues are showing too.
I think he expects either government or "irregular" incomes. Tesla car sales currently tank outside the US, inside probably too. Too much associated with his person and actions. Few people want a swasticar.
I’m sure inside the US as well, Trumpers hate EV’s and anything green. They might be the purchasers of the 20 cyber trucks that sold here😆 but largely teslas, I assume were bought by nonMAGAts. I don’t think Teslas going to have a good time here either.
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Me me me, man baby scumbags the lot of them!
Given the Musk-Theil project to destroy the United States and establish their techno-fuedal network state, I would not place it outside the realm of possibility.
https://www.thenerdreich.com/author/gil/
We’ll have autonomous flying robo taxis by 2027. Pinky swear.
So this won't take long, prepare for layoffs at TESLA.
The small people though, execs never lose their jobs.
This is a revolution, your country needs you.
All legal.
I'm trying to find out if any protests are planned there.
But if things keep going as they are, they will be out of a job ..
The only way that will happen is if he REQUIRES taxpayers to buy a tesla or steals social security $ from seniors and force buys Danger-Deploreans for us.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-just-wrapped-up-its-second-worst-month-ever-210850281.html
(my now daily affirmation)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-26/musk-s-ex-twitter-workers-win-severance-over-layoff-after-email
A man without humility is a man who will fall.
Easy on the ketamine, sport.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-union-chief-calls-fund-managers-review-tesla-valuation-2025-02-27/
You'd better hustle to keep Chinese EVs out of the US. If they get in, Tesla will be just another boring company.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-stock-slump-musk-wealth-f04e6014
https://www.fastcompany.com/91234168/new-study-shows-tesla-makes-some-of-the-most-dangerous-cars-on-the-road?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Ford etc layoff their workers due to tariffs on car parts
Walmart and Starbucks and hotels/resorts lay people off because no one has disposable fun income
Where will the tax dollars to pay for Elon’s subsidies and contracts come from?
I’ll wait
There’s no way this doesn’t crash and burn w/in the year. It’s wild to me it’s even happening but there’s
Which reminds me of how private equity firms will buy a business with a loan and then saddle the company with the debt. If the debt burden becomes too much and the company fails then the private equity firm sells off the parts and doesn't have to pay the loans.
Our own investor class is going to look for stability in Canada/Europe
We are going to see a brain drain, firms that relocate expats are already emailing me & I’m not at the top of anyone’s list
I worked in the talent agency world
Later CRE
People wanted to be HERE & wanted their $
He expects to own the US.
https://www.jalopnik.com/teslas-quality-control-is-so-bad-customers-are-taking-d-1851369990/
MAGA wont buy Tesla,its the rest of the population who do
Tesla board need to act quickly while they still can be a viable company.
Musk is destroying the brand, and he doesn’t care
Prince Alwaleed
Jack Dorsey
Larry Ellison
Banks and Investers have many including Sequoia and Vy capital who also between them invest in Space X and the Boring company
Crypto investors include Binance who invested 500 million
Twitter can’t make any money
Elons also paying out of his own pocket for the MAGA influencers who post on twitter
Whats he paying Tucker Carlson?
It’s disinformation, dirty smear campaigns designed to kill democracy
I'm sure it'll work the third time though.
I imagine it's because they're the "bug-out" types who realize it's a hell of a lot easier to make your own electricity than it is to make your own gas, or something.
Their words, not mine. :V
you'd need to burn about 10.68 gallons of gasoline to charge the Tesla battery enough for a 300-mile range
(hitler's exclusive vision) cleanse the roads, eliminate undesirables. EE=white man.
He's come out against free money subsidies yet he continues to accept them.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-list-government-subsidies-tesla-billions-spacex-solarcity-2021-12
He is a total scumbag.
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-confirms-missing-rop-issue-across-all-rtx-50-series-gpus/
I’m using a 4070 in one computer and a 3080 in another and they’re just fine. 4070 is crazy powerful tbh.
Don’t buy them, don’t rent them, don’t encourage others to do so.
I was beginning to hear things that made me believe that a car was tied to an identity or ideology.
Of course not-it is an inanimate object and that would be super silly. 👍
Yeah, I know you listed plenty of reasons to not buy Tesla, but there is nothing wrong with listing more reasons, is there?
“Tesla tops the list with an overall fatal crash rate of 5.6 per billion miles, followed closely by Kia at 5.5 and Buick at 4.8.”
But, of course, political hatred will vastly skew the safety record of any brand vehicle, right?
Theirs are much much cheaper and efficient, Tesla is just scaremongering bc they can’t compete in an open market
- 🇨🇳 subsidizes ~10% of the EV price tag
- 🇺🇸 current tariffs are 100%
- Tesla controls 50% of the local market
1/2 of that 90% split is what Tesla pockets from the American consumer and 12% tariff would be more than enough to protect the automotive industry
It’s crony capitalism
By the way, China charges 25% tariff, 17% VAT tax and up to 40% consumption tax for US vehicles.
So, you support China’s cars over US cars?
Are you really pro-America? Or just anti-China?
Where else do they have problems?
If he was executed by his shareholders, Tesla stock would go up 1000% and I don’t even think it would take 5 years.
How do people believe this con artist?
1000%?!?!?!