Her approval rating is hovering around 9% for voters aged under 50. How the hell the Tories think this kind of verbal diarrhoea helps is beyond my comprehension. I think they’ve had a collective mental breakdown since July. I think her days are numbered.
They have an identity crisis. What do they stand for except their own empowerment. Reform is clear about what it is (the home of shameless racists), as are LibDems (sensible local issues), Greens, even Labour to an extent. But Tories have turned their back on old values & replaced them with nothing.
They are as likely to win an election as Wales are to win the six nations championship. The difference is, I feel very sad about the decline of Welsh rugby, and passionately hope they get back to winning ways soon. 🏆
Giving vast sums of money to cronies, sacking 21,000 police officers, closing fire stations, tanking the economy, making it harder to trade with our closest trading partners.....
Fifteen - fifteen long harduous years we waiting for the Tories to bring back something for us to be proud of - your lot brought us more and more disappointments than any other party ever.
Regardless of any ... er...subtext, these guys were in charge for a decade and a half ending less than a year ago. How do they think their nonsensical message is going to land with the electorate?
Part of me thinks that this will be the end of Badenoch, but Jenrick is the most likely successor and is arguably even more objectionable. Either way, it looks like the Tories are on their last gasp.
Given that they were the actual government for 14 long and painful years, and rammed through the Brexit disaster, it's clearly them that we need defending from.
I have done a lot of work in charity fundraising, another place where target audiences tend to be older, and we do SO MUCH thinking about text legibility, colour clashes, font size, etc.
Yep. There are even accessibility guidelines for this kind of thing, but I suspect accessibility may be deemed ‘woke’ and contributing to the decline of western civilisation.
We Conservatives are officially the guardians of the whole of western civilisation:
Democracy
Freedom
Education
Da Vinci
Plato
Aristotle
Beethoven
Carry on films
Homes Under The Hammer
Ben Fogle
Flossing
The Eurovision Song Contest
Gloria Hunniford
Greggs
Dry humping
Limping.
🇬🇧
It’s largely a fascist adjacent vibe. I mean, some people have had goes at defining it but unless you’re a researcher into the online far right, or a real connoisseur of dog whistles, you just shouldn’t be going there.
I think she's referring to Anglo-Saxon derived cultures. To be blunt the people who talk in these terms though would not subscribe to the idea that a black Nigerian woman fits into this world at all.
Completely agree (and made similar point in a sub thread). The whole thing would be mental, horrific and unsuccessful fronted by say Jenrick but Badenoch doing it adds an additional air of farce.
Oh there absolutely is (Western Europe is different to Eastern Europe, just as a basic). But as you say, it’s a very nebulous concept in many senses. Real but hard to pin down. Her version (cf “defend free speech”) appears quite an America brained iteration, as well.
Agree there’s a real thing there, albeit pretty fuzzy but nobody talking about defending it really means renaissance art or architecture, Greek philosophy or Newtonian physics, much though they might reference those things. They mean hating and othering.
Oh yes. They absolutely mean all that evil American 1st Amendment bullshit, which cannot be said to define civilisation in any sense in which I understand the word.
Yeah, just abysmal, hypocritical stuff. The moment they get the chance, the 1st Amendment army is shutting down free speech it doesn’t like with the full force it can muster. Could argue bits of the left may have walked into the punch slightly but that’s really not the main point.
Genuine question: is there evidence that Kemi herself runs well above her party, is more popular in marginal seats? The message seems mad: maybe she thinks she’s got Donald’s charisma?
They seem to have rather short memories about the fact that it was 14 years of Tory austerity, lies, Brexit, underfunding, corruption and incompetence that got us here.
It's like an arsonist, having burnt your house to the ground, now asking you to trust them with the keys to your car and shed.
Translation: we’ve aligned ourselves with our Russian oil & US corporation overloads. Once we isolate u from the rest of the world, we’ll capitalise on everything we can before giving u your country - deeply divided, with no drinking water, no biodiversity, no social security or healthcare- enjoy!
Did they take my country, without me noticing? I feel I'm still in the UK, but maybe that's an illusion. What date did this happen, maybe I was on holiday😂
Conservatives are going to give you your country back. The Scots, Welsh and Irish must be delighted. Can we Londoners also have London (which was around before England existed) so we can rejoin the EU?
They’re giving it back to us because they’ve had a go and realised they haven’t got a clue what to do, so are just going to focus on making money of talking to some US based weirdos instead
Yes, I’d rather just buy a new one rather than spend my time fixing all the damage they’ve done to it. But I’m not letting them borrow it again after this.
Western Civilisation is in deep
5h!t if we need rescuing by the @conservatives.bsky.social - the political party that dragged the UK into the mire over the past 14 years.
Basically converting Cameron's line of "muscular liberalism" into "muscular progressivism" and redefining Western values in an explicitly pluralistic and multicultural framework.
Seems a rational way of distinguishing themselves from Labour and keeping Reform supporters within the party. Also, it’s in keeping with the idea of cultural conservatism and the general rightward shift globally, which may intensify with climate induced migration and long term economic stagnation.
Led by a mad one....I'm surprised the 'men in grey suits' haven't already knocked on her door to 'have a chat'..they certainly need to..she must have had a hand in this it has her fingerprints on it..
It is amazing that someone came up with it, and thought it was a good idea.
Then told others, who also thought it was a good idea.
Then someone made it, and everyone still thought it was a good idea.
How bad does an idea have to be for them to realise it is in fact very bad?
When did the Cons ever (in recent years) "secure our borders"?
Half of London sold to Russians, Scottish oil overseas owned, train and water companies overseas owned,..gosh,..even their own donor base?...?
BRB, just looking at the armed forces head count from 2010-2024, I'm sure it actually rose if the tories defended the west during their time in office.
I did see an interview with Ben Wallace yesterday, where he talked about how the UK 'peace dividend' cut swathes out of the 1990s military & has shrunk it to a non-credible size that desperately needs building up to at least 3% GDP. Whilst right, he wasn't asked what he did as Defence Minister.
The funniest thing is the sort of people who are actually attracted to this shit would happily deport Kemi Badenoch without a second thought given the chance.
That being Kemi Bad-Enoch, the woman whose own mother was a NHS tourist, who only came over here to give birth for free, and so those children could be British citizens?
Actually I do think we must defend free speech ( under threat from Putin and Trump) and it does look as if we’re going to have to defend our borders in Eastern Europe against Russia. . It’s just the look on her face that makes it sound insane.
What are we supposed to be doubting ourselves about? Is that like saying don't think critically? Don't question anything? How have they diagnosed this self-doubt? Is this a pop at anxiety? Who is advising these people!?
Given that her party is a prime cause for the loss of national pride, and her mates are the ones "self-doubting" as they are terrified of made-up threats, this is a bit rich! 🤣🤣
Again targeting a narrow subset of the v online right who probably won’t vote Tory anyway, what with being Reform adjacent, probably not high propensity voters and completely deranged. Well, I guess completely deranged might make them more likely to vote current Tories but doubt it.
In a recent interview she lambasted the Lib Dems as irrelevant because they aren't online & just spent their time mending church roofs & helping local communities
The LibDrms are on line. Just not helping to fund Musk by using X.
She complained that they were nice people.
How terrible - as if being nice will bring down western civilisation.
Oh and if you’re aiming for the decline of Western civilisation dog whistle, whatever merits Badenoch may be concealing, she’s not exactly the obvious front woman, is she?
She certainly doesn’t fit the Trump/Musk profile. I suspect Reform are already cementing ties. Farage is Stateside again this weekend for more boot-licking.
Trump and adjacent far right insanity is far less obviously toxic for Reform, who have that vote share than for the Tories who don’t, won’t get it and v badly need to recapture some usually Tory mainstream voters who went LD. Think there are real risks for Reform too though.
Agree but Reform is also a potentially existential problem for the Tories, I just think they’re fighting it wrongly. They aren’t getting the hard core racists back and they shouldn’t largely be trying.
There’s an interesting story there, given the number of senior Tories of colour (don’t suppose they’d use that term) in the recent past but it won’t work if they’re taking this approach. Not that this is getting them anywhere other than hell in a handcart, whoever fronts it.
Honestly think 'we will fill the potholes and take the bins on time' would be the winning slogan for any party right now. It's mostly what anyone cares about anyway
And yet again, even if you accept the premise of the - what I will call an argument - this isn't a case you can make after 14 years of actual government.
Trouble is 20% or so will get behind this. Another 25% are further to the right of this. That's around 45% who'll suscribe to this madness. It this group will include most of the really violent nutters. Very disturbing.
I hope its not the case. And some polsters won't be particularly trustworthy. But there is also a significant portion of people who can't be bothered to vote, but whose beliefs will be pretty extreme. I suspect a large number of last years immigration rioters would never dream of voting.
We'll have to wait and see. Hopefully some sanity may have returned to the world by the time of the next general election. But things are so unpredictable at the moment, it's hard to know how people will react.
And National pride means entirely different things to different people. I lost most of my National Pride post 2016 and as a result of people like Kemi Badenoch
I often mull over the fact that a good campaign will resonate indefinitely. All of us who were there remember the classics "eduction..."/"tough on..." etc.
I have a feeling I'll remember this too, but for different reasons.
TBF they, and people who think like them, are largely responsible for the mess we're collectively in, so they do know *something* about the problem. Unfortunately it's only from the creating it side, not the fixing it one
I mean the three leading parties are running on rejecting self-doubt, defending free speech, securing our borders, and restoring national pride. the only question remaining for the public is at what level of intensity do we wish these to occur
We have to defend ourselves and our values against putin, tramp, china, Iran, and other fascist lackies.
We have to defend it against the Tories who want to suck up to the likes of tramp and putin, and we must defend it against the farages who want us to be russia
Trying to out Reform, Reform. Soon be right in the bin. Which is remarkable for the most successful political party (discounting Russia/China..) in modern history.
I’m sorry, also, maybe I’m mad… but I feel like the people who would go for this are not going to be swayed by it because it has Kemi’s face in it, and they’re largely going to be racists
Some will use it as a defence though. One S Vine suggested Kemi was an asset because Starmer could never attack her at PMQs on any policy because he would be called racist or misogynistic.
If she had any sense she would realise that she's the one killing the Tory party (not that I'm complaining).
Farage has only been taking the right-wingers. She's already lost those. Now she's losing the moderates too.
I still think this western yadda claptrap is directed at precisely one billionaire, but that might only be because I cannot conceptualise anybody else being ridiculous enough to seriously claim, much less believe, that their cringe populism tribute act is going to do anything of the sort.
But strangely not online enough to see Sargon of Akkad etc shrieking about her not being white enough. It’s like she’s pitching herself at some schroedingers racist.
There is no sanity or intelligence remaining in the Tory party. This woman, a combination of Little Miss Arrogance/Conceit, is really not very bright.
Before Johnson's 2019 purge, she would not have even sniffed such a position.
Now, all the party can do is follow Farage into the far right abyss.
Would be worth reanimating the corpse of Enoch Powell for 60 seconds to see what he makes of this. That should be quite long enough. Don't encourage him.
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They are utterly pathetic and equally pointless
She's basically gone full obnoxious smirk
Giving vast sums of money to cronies, sacking 21,000 police officers, closing fire stations, tanking the economy, making it harder to trade with our closest trading partners.....
“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself… *checks notes* Excuse me, is fear of the Conservative Party getting back in to power.”
Asking for the civilisation that existed before the Tories were invented.
by Kemi Badenoch
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/23/good-idea/
The Conservatives have destroyed the UK.
Russian patsies.
This is the Tories’ current banner image. “JOIN THE somethingsomething”
Democracy
Freedom
Education
Da Vinci
Plato
Aristotle
Beethoven
Carry on films
Homes Under The Hammer
Ben Fogle
Flossing
The Eurovision Song Contest
Gloria Hunniford
Greggs
Dry humping
Limping.
🇬🇧
Not sure simping is going to be the way to take them on
Starmer could do with learning the same lesson.
It's certainly not about winning votes.
This kind of nonsense dog-whistling about non existent attacks on Western Civilisation, sorry it is just embarrassing themselves in public, again 😭
It's like an arsonist, having burnt your house to the ground, now asking you to trust them with the keys to your car and shed.
Self-care is how you take your power back.
You can not serve from an empty vessel.
They've really embraced their inner BNP.
5h!t if we need rescuing by the @conservatives.bsky.social - the political party that dragged the UK into the mire over the past 14 years.
'Western Civilisation' means eliminating outsiders.
Then told others, who also thought it was a good idea.
Then someone made it, and everyone still thought it was a good idea.
How bad does an idea have to be for them to realise it is in fact very bad?
Half of London sold to Russians, Scottish oil overseas owned, train and water companies overseas owned,..gosh,..even their own donor base?...?
There is hope.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/feb/21/scottish-labour-would-set-up-musk-style-doge-department-says-sarwar?CMP=share_btn_url
Has anyone checked the water supply at CCHQ?
Utter madness. No leadership, only fear.
'The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies'.
She is an absolute cooker
She complained that they were nice people.
How terrible - as if being nice will bring down western civilisation.
Insane to be chasing a private firm with 5 MPs when LDs are so obviously their target market.
There's something up with the polls. I think Reform's donors slung them some money to knobble the results.
I remember the Brexit Referendum and I knew people who said they would vote for it. This isn't the case with Reform.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/09/western-civilisation-appiah-reith-lecture
There are a lot of crises caused by the weaknesses of the conservative party.
I have a feeling I'll remember this too, but for different reasons.
We have to defend it against the Tories who want to suck up to the likes of tramp and putin, and we must defend it against the farages who want us to be russia
Events have proven otherwise of course.
Vine was obviously thinking immigration was going to be the sole topic raised at PMQs ever.
Farage has only been taking the right-wingers. She's already lost those. Now she's losing the moderates too.
Before Johnson's 2019 purge, she would not have even sniffed such a position.
Now, all the party can do is follow Farage into the far right abyss.
A question which should be asked.