It was and it is just as wrong that anyone could have been locked out if they just had something to do with terrorism, allegedly. It does not make the recent shit any less evil.
if they rule the gov can do this they are rebelling against the lawful authority that is the constitution the law of the land meaning their rulings are no longer valid which means we the people need to step in turn the car around and come back there.
That almost makes it sound more harmless than it is: the question is can they do it on a whim without having to present any evidence that they have any legal basis for sending you there.
And the corollary: “If the US government accidentally sends you to a torture prison overseas is it ok if the US just shrugs its shoulders and says ‘sorry not sorry’ instead of making any effort to get you back?”
Seems like 2 cases coming before SCOTUS this week. That one and the one where Trump fired 2 inspected generals.
These two are pivotal in deciding if democracy will prevail or fail.
Constitution died today. Robert's SCOTUS ruled Garcia need not be returned to the US. 5th Amendment of due process doesn't matter. Trump now looks forward to deporting American's to foreign countries.
Well, that's not actually what it says. It says that he deserves due process but he went about it the wrong way. Still terrible. They killed him on procedure.
Reported his hearing will be in Texas by the weekend if Robert's SCOTUS rules in his favor after a briefing by Garicia's lawyers by 5PM Tuesday. Robert's and Barett have to rule with the 3 liberal justices for the hearing or he remains in El Salvador without due process forever.
It's worse than that, the issue is does the Constitution say that people legally residing in the United States are entitled to due process vs no we're going to ignore the due process required by the Constitution
I know the administrative stay doesn't mean he's not getting back.
But it still makes me angry.
The message? It's okay to trample on human rights.
If you're wrongfully imprisoned, the government won't work tooth and nail and use every resource to get you out.
No, no, they will work AGAINST you.
We should know by now the Supreme Court can explicitly say a ruling only applies to the facts & circumstances of a particular case, but they know, even as they say it, they’re giving license to the President to apply the rule to anyone he wants with one caveat: the President must be a Republican.
“If we could take some of our twenty-time wise guys that push people into subways and hit people over the back of the head, and purposefully run people over in cars, uh if he would take them, I would be honored to give them,” Trump continued.
“I don’t know what the law says on that, but I can’t imagine the law would say anything different,” Trump said, claiming that it could likely save the U.S. money to house their prisoners in El Salvador. In fact, the law does say something different: It is illegal to deport U.S. citizens.
He hasn't followed a single law, constitutional right, or court order up to this point. He won't do it concerning prisoners, either. The REAL question is, when do we march in & arrest him and the rest for breaking the laws? When do we assure the safety of citizens over politeness?
The press is paying attention, so it will not go unnoticed. But knowing the corruption endemic to this court, I see a 5-4 decision with no guarantee it will follow the law…
While the constitution does allow for deportation, its deportation to the country of origin and not to a prison facility paid for by America. Thus Trump is openly committing crimes by sending people to a foreign prison and not to their country of origin.
Hear me out. Let’s just say you are guilty of committing a crime. And that you receive due process, probable cause, indictment, fair trial, jury of your peers, and found guilty. There is still no U.S. law that allows the punishment to be exile to a torture prison of another country!
I may be misunderstanding your reply, but, the administration is arguing courts have no jurisdiction to return somebody exiled to a torture prison in another country. So, if by "accident," it happens then "oh, well, sorry, no backsies."
"Doesn't matter if it's legal or not" is the entire framework our federal government operates under at this point, and they aren't even pretending otherwise.
"As long as it makes apologetic noises like it's an intern presenting their first case instead of The Government that is supposed to obey The Constitution"
The ruling is out. The government can exile you to a torture prison for now. What about the other non criminal deportees? let’s not forget about them, now and in the future.
The only ones deserving of exile to a foreign torture prison are those who say the government has the authority to exile anyone to a foreign torture prison.
I don't know how they can twist the Constitution to support Trump's policy of round-ups and deportation, I only know that, like presidential immunity, they'll find a way.
Well I'm not moving a thing. I'll be blowing shit up and setting shit on fire. OUR country, I'm not giving it up to pack of pathetic dollar-tree nazis.
US gov (Trump Regime) cannot & shouldn’t exile anyone to the prison overseas especially US gov under Trump Regime doesn’t represent majority of Americans. 😡
Really hoping we get more of a "disrespecting judicial authority" decision rather than "we like executing people so why not this" death penalty style decision.
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I have always said that if anyone has the power to give you anything then you never really had it to begin with. If they can give it, then they can take it.
I have no confidence - ZERO - that SCOTUS will uphold the constitution and our laws against Trump. Trying brace myself when/if such a ruling as I expect, comes.
Because, at that point, it's all over but the shouting.
IF they allow this and we are living under a authoritarian monster with power to disappear people to other countries then what do we do to get our country back? It will be much harder then!
seem to recall we had this exact debate and it was determined that George Bush could do whatever he wanted with impunity... so once you set that precedent it just becomes the way things are.
And this is what we warned when Bush was carrying out the disappearances
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Exile you without "due process." Prolly so! I don't make the mistake of thinking our government has any admirable human qualities on any level now. It certainly excels at demonstrating its nasty ones.
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Are we betting on the results? Because if they support this and ever regain control, I know 6 people who should enjoy a nice vacation in El Salvador. I’ll even pay for their tickets.
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And Trump ruminating about doing it to US citizens. This is the point where I need to remind folks that China disappears it's people & they are found to have died & their organs donated. There is a big business in organ donation.
Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are a definite yes, their legal philosophy is that GOP presidents have the divine right of kings, only question is if Barret and Roberts are on board with full dictatorship.
I am so worried he may not be with us anymore. Or that others sent there aren’t. The admin might do anything to avoid bringing him back and having him talk about what happened.
Unfortunately this is just how the courts work. They have no choice but to hear both sides. That will take time and so delaying the deadline makes sense from that standpoint.
I guess I’m just clinging to hope here that they won’t allow this. But… let’s be honest… they’re gonna allow it.
The case will be decided without reference to fact patterns, precedent, or any semblance of legal reasoning, but rather Press Your Luck style where unlimited Presidential power can only be checked by three Whammies.
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This would NEVER HAPPEN in canada
There is nobody there,
except white liberals and penguins
for a very small amount of “other” people probably.
Yikes 😳
These two are pivotal in deciding if democracy will prevail or fail.
Or maybe it isn't....
But the justices forget Trump et al don’t care about words on paper…the Regime doesn’t actually care about laws at all.
But it still makes me angry.
The message? It's okay to trample on human rights.
If you're wrongfully imprisoned, the government won't work tooth and nail and use every resource to get you out.
No, no, they will work AGAINST you.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5237011-supreme-court-trump-venezuelans-alien-enemies-act/
“If we could take some of our twenty-time wise guys that push people into subways and hit people over the back of the head, and purposefully run people over in cars, uh if he would take them, I would be honored to give them,” Trump continued.
Doesn't matter if it's legal or not.
- Justice Roberts
What a fucking mess.
https://bsky.app/profile/adamserwer.bsky.social/post/3lmacegfz3c2i
https://theonion.com/this-war-will-destabilize-the-entire-mideast-region-and-1819594296/
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-sending-americans-el-salvador-prison-2056122
Birthright citizenship is going to SCOTUS. If we fail to uphold this, democracy is mos def dead. And I will be moving!
Suspend your citizenship!
https://www.attitude.co.uk/news/el-salvador-gay-makeup-artist-deported-482195/
also: my father and nephew are named Adam, so....
They have.
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/supreme-court-corruption-ruling
Stop.
Because, at that point, it's all over but the shouting.
A country that is debating to what extinct they can use fear and torture to enslave the citizens. 🤷♂️
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And this is what we warned when Bush was carrying out the disappearances
https://youtu.be/mOMU08iAa7c?si=4jSPDQxPXYPGHIq7
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They have been abducted,
Tortured,I am sure
Mentality ruin for life.
But Hey DFT did what he said.
Complicity
Cowards
Hearing happening right now 3pm MST 4/7
https://www.youtube.com/live/QcP8zEQgUC8?si=yVQSLzHTX9f_AMA5
(HINT: They will.)
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Supreme Court made absolute 💯 percent shit heap of a decision in 2024.
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I guess I’m just clinging to hope here that they won’t allow this. But… let’s be honest… they’re gonna allow it.
Enchilada Armada.
That's kind of where we are.
(I haven’t heard this in so long. Used to watch with my Sicilian great-grandmother who loved it)
If it’s not upheld why do we need a Supreme Court?
They accepting it that way?
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