Really though? He may just instruct his appointees to enforce his orders as written, even if they do not follow the required process. The corrupt courts may let him do it. Worst case for him if a court blocks an order is he gets to blame a judge for the problem.
If Trump says trans people are literally illegal, all the dumbfuck minions who hang on his every word will start "dealing" with "those people", thinking they have permission.
Just like Jan 6, the law doesn't matter if Dear Leader gives you the go-ahead.
Trump is also only holding the house by two seats so he's entirely dependent in every Republican showing up to vote and voting in line to pass anything into actual law
A lot of these performative executive orders are probably going to be someone basically saying, "Alright, it's been done!" to Trump, and people who he'd get information from just telling him it's happened when it hasn't/wouldn't take any real effect.
Thank you for posting this. I think the main thing we need to learn from last time is to not allow ourselves to be strung out by the firehouse of mostly bullshit. We need to focus on what is actually likely and be ready to act when stuff actually happens.
Don't give up yet, there will be the inevitable legal challenge which will force the administration into court and it'll get tied up that way for a while; but I would suggest expediting the process while you can.
None of that matters if the people running the agencies affected by a given EO simply decide to ignore the "rules" and do what the EO tells them to do.
Our gov't depends on the people in positions of power doing their job correctly, and if the last few decades has shown us anything, it's that 1/2
My main concern is the impact on how passports are handled. I got my gender marker updated, but won't get my name change for another month. Am I going to be able to use a court order and updated birth certificate to keep the correct info, or will I be forced to revert if I try to update again?
Guess they might try to revert IDs. I updated my ID and got a passport but never did update my sex on my birth cert. But it has a note about my name change and I imagine would for a sex marker update too, so it's all logged and traceable no matter what
I’m in the same situation in that I updated everything BUT my birth certificate. Might try to file the forms tomorrow just in case this doesn’t go through right away, but I honestly have no idea how this’ll impact me.
Birth certificate changes are the domain of the states, and this EO only affects the Federal government. Depending what state you were born in, it may be very easy to change the gender marker on your birth certificate or it may already be impossible even before the EO.
Suggestion. Be sure to expedite it in sending, processing and return mail. Or an electronic request if that's an option. And order several certified copies- both long and short forms, to be safe.
Cis gendered people do not understand: how resilient we are, how much we worked and struggled to get here, what it cost us with our family and our friends, how much joy being our truth brings us, that this more than just our identity, it is fundamental;
And they can never take that away from us
They can and are suing the Trump administration, at least with regard to some things; suing forces the admin. to defend it in court, etc. I've contacted my states Attorney Generals office on what they plan to do to fight this and am awaiting a reply.
I doubt the law will care enough to stop him. This is the same law that refused to charge him with his crime simply because he was running for office and now they won't charge him at all.
Trump can go suck a dick. I’m not gonna suddenly turn into a con cuz he’s in power. I know it means nothing but I’m just gonna keep doing whatever I want
I’m American damn it. It’s my god given right to call the prez stupid when he does something stupid. Oh and to mock cons of course :)
It's not about giving up. It's about recognizing reality. All dissent will be crushed or ignored. But sure, call your congressperson (who only cares about $) or protest (which will be met with force). I'm looking out for me and my community bc I'm going to be a martyr. You do you.
Also, this man is a blithering idiot who can't even remember what he had for breakfast this morning and isn't long for this earth. And his replacement, JD Vance, is such an uncharismatic bore that HIS OWN PARTY hates his guts and only interacts w/ him through gritted teeth.
I can only hope, my passport renewal with gender marker change is mid-process. And I'll need to apply for a revision for my name change next month, which may give them an excuse to revert it.
Oh boy, my favorite Trumpian game: Liberals pointing at the piece of paper that says 'nuh uh you can't do that' and then doing nothing when Trump does it anyway!
I wish we could have faith in paper, but the US is entering a distinctly law-free period. Honestly really scared for you guys.
I hope you're correct but I'm not optimistic. Seems like he could go martial law/dictatorship right quick. Agree with not obeying in advance (or at all).
If Trump *refuses* to step down in 4 years, just hands over the sceptre to his next-in-line, or democracy is totally fucked by then, this executive order *might just as well* be Law.
Challenging it will get siphoned off to a Trump bought SCOTUS.
The most asinine thing though, is that BIDEN should have used HIS 4 years to protect women & trans people & immigrants etc through executive orders. But he DID NOT.
He can EO all he wants. I can recognize transgender people exist and have worth. So unless Musk’s plants his brain implants to make me change my mind, Trump is going to lose
Even if there are legal processes, I doubt nearly as many courts will block him as his last term. A lot of the legal system is on his side, including the top legal court of the country. See how he had no punishment and nobody stopped him after being convicted a felon?
Most Americans don’t understand the concept of gender identity. The simplest why to think about our trans bothers and sisters is they are doing it for sexy time reasons and that’s the default attitude for most Americans.
Is part of advocacy trying to explain the concept?
Depends on who you're talking to. If they have empathy and compassion, focus on the harm these laws do to human beings.
If they lack compassion and empathy, there's no reaching them.
As far back as I can remember, what my body looked like, how I end up presenting myself, and how I think I am perceived lined up so easily that I never knew gender identity was a thing. That part of being me is the easy part.
I didn’t have any trans folks in my life, and if I didn’t go to the most liberal college in America, no one would have broken it down to me. It’s not a self-evident thing.
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Still, these dominance politics are SO WEIRD!
We all know it's your fault
If Trump says trans people are literally illegal, all the dumbfuck minions who hang on his every word will start "dealing" with "those people", thinking they have permission.
Just like Jan 6, the law doesn't matter if Dear Leader gives you the go-ahead.
Nothing is going to be an easy process for him
Our gov't depends on the people in positions of power doing their job correctly, and if the last few decades has shown us anything, it's that 1/2
Y'all might trust a Trump appointee to follow the rules because they're the rules, but I sure as fuck don't. 2/2
I'm not gonna panic just yet. But. Sigh.
https://www.totallegal.com/changing-gender-on-birth-certificate
And they can never take that away from us
NEVER OBEY IN ADVANCE.
Lol regulatory process and the courts lol
Those protect us until one day suddenly they don’t.
But they can still slow things down.
Yes, the sky is actually falling. But it still has far to fall.
Make your moves while you still can.
People are already bad off enough. A large portion of the nation stands on the precipice of homelessness and bankruptcy.
Attacks like this are never as effective as they are in times like these.
You act like shit getting materially worse across the board is somehow going to spark revolution.
Wake the fuck up. It's 2025. If you don't have resources, you're *done*.
All a person can do is try to stay alive.
I’m American damn it. It’s my god given right to call the prez stupid when he does something stupid. Oh and to mock cons of course :)
Choose.
But you have to be willing to give up everything.
I wish we could have faith in paper, but the US is entering a distinctly law-free period. Honestly really scared for you guys.
Typically trans women are segregated and held in men's prisons. It is rare to house them in women's prison.
Civilian MAGAts will take this order AS IF trans people are now justified targets and antitrans violence & discrimination will rise.
By the time they enact actual LAWS regular people are already acting as if this is the law of the land…
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If Trump *refuses* to step down in 4 years, just hands over the sceptre to his next-in-line, or democracy is totally fucked by then, this executive order *might just as well* be Law.
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The most asinine thing though, is that BIDEN should have used HIS 4 years to protect women & trans people & immigrants etc through executive orders. But he DID NOT.
Biden’s legacy will be a legacy of SHAME 😡😡😡
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Is part of advocacy trying to explain the concept?
If they lack compassion and empathy, there's no reaching them.
I didn’t have any trans folks in my life, and if I didn’t go to the most liberal college in America, no one would have broken it down to me. It’s not a self-evident thing.