I love that people are like “well communist is too scary we can’t use that word because of xyz”
Comrade in Christ the first paragraph of the manifesto explains why this is stupid. The whole specter haunting thing. That’s literally what it’s about.
Communists need to not let others define them.
Comrade in Christ the first paragraph of the manifesto explains why this is stupid. The whole specter haunting thing. That’s literally what it’s about.
Communists need to not let others define them.
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What the fuck well what DO we have
You’re on some crazy shit if you think Americans will voluntarily abdicate property rights.
Socialism is a way forward. Communism has failed everywhere, even the Vatican the last communist state.
Jefferson and Franklin were pot smoking organic farmers who incited rebellion against the most powerful nation on Earth.
None of that says “bowing to the dictates of capitalism”.
Mmmmkay?
The documents assigned the power to the people. Slavery in 1775 is completely irrelevant to our present slavery, which is “equal”.
They’re building detention camps for people who don’t comply, just like Nazis.
Do you plan to collaborate??
I’m a political science graduate.
You sound like the kind of person who thinks white people rowed out to ships in Boston Harbor, climbed the bow lines and tossed the cargo into the bay.
Also, the kind of person who thinks Jesus was white.
Congrats
It’s currently 2025. People who’ve been dead for over a hundred years aren’t remotely relevant to what is happening now. People alive now are relevant to now
In 1755 the British deported the French and Metis people from Grand Pres which is across the St Lawrence in Canada. Those deported went to work the maritimes in Boston. Metis wore buck skins and dressed like indigenous “savages”. That’s who started the revolution, cluebie, not white people
I think communists are delusional and socialism is the only way forward.
You seem to think wild non sequiturs and ad hominem attacks are helpful.
Do tell kettle
Either we salvage what we can from the existing foundation and move forward or we destroy the nation and the government which is exactly what our adversaries want.
Jefferson is dead and the 13th amendment created equality for slavery. Now anyone can be a slave.
My point is that “WE THE PEOPLE” sounds a lot more like dictatorship of the proletariat than not.
Either we fix the documents we have and recenter on shared values or just give up and learn Chinese.
2. Those documents were written by slavers and should be thrown away
3. I don’t have shared values with fascists or fascist collaborators
Slavery 300 years ago isn’t relevant. Slavery being legal today IS relevant.
Our constitution gives THE PEOPLE a mandate, not billionaires, bureaucrats, fascists and slavery corporations.
Either we take our power and use it or we lose it. WE PEOPLE
the left doesnt work on marketing, and thats rly what screws us long term. we need to use branding + propaganda more
which we know doesnt work bc we tried that & thats how we ended up with fascists
ergo we need to abandon Scary Red Words
Nice job victim blaming. What’s your excuse for being garbage?
It's so not this super polished work, written over years and years. It was banged out over the course of late January and February of 1848.
(Agreeing back, hehe)
(For any other commies reading this, I was exaggerating for effect. I know like actually 67 ish pages long).
Even leaving electoral tactics aside (which should not be
So why not just make things look "common sense" and detached from labels like fascists do, to get the ideas across?
Also couldnt own property in most areas cause they were Jewish
The US is a neat country that loves when people are different 😀
I really should have learned more from her. She fuckin ruled.
And if you are an anarchist you ARE a communist. Unless you are of the Milei kind.
If your revolution isn't actually led by the people, you don't get a result that is for the people. You get another hierarchy.
Alongside all the infrastructure it needs to run. Cause with communism you can do that given enough leeway and imagination.
Anarchism doesn't reject "expertise" let alone "organization".
You also need a system of guardianship and oversight for cases where there is no family or legal guardian here and the pregnant person isn’t conscious/capable of decision making.
Do you have so little faith in humanity that you think we couldn't figure out a solution to these problems together?
Also, which is more important:
- everyone getting to do what they want all the time
- things working
At some point, you will have to choose.
Do you want to be right, or do you want to win?
Oh, and "anarchism" isn't about "doing what you want all the time".
Personal freedom is less important than the infrastructure of society functioning, and they are in mutual competition for time and resources.
Until you kill your hyperindividualism, you haven’t divorced yourself from capitalist propaganda.
Do you want to live in a future where everybody is forced to do things? That's what we have now.
And as long as we're in "that's what we have now" territory, you won't like living in a country with no functioning state
But more importantly: sometimes people don’t wanna do stuff. They don’t want to do what they’re told, just cause they don’t want to This is a known human phenomenon, it is not a result of capitalism, and it has to be dealt with.
Smash The Things won’t support hospitals.
Communism itself is hard… very hard.
Anarchism is even beyond it unless you want to accept reverting to very basic harsh and painful lifestyles of the past.
The difference between Anarchism and Communsim is the strategy. We want to get to the same place. The difference is the how.
By all means do anarchism, spread anarchist propaganda. That's good.
But atm their revolutionary method isn't as developed.
Everyone needs to understand the context they live in and apply the theory in it.
A revoltion in China isn't going to be the same as in Mexico, but they will still find many things useful. Such as organising the peasants, surrounding th cities etc.
They can't do each others work until after they train for it.
Also, Anarchy is an equally scary word to the average person.
All of which anarchism offers no material strategy for, while communism provides a battle-tested roadmap.
Would distributing food not work if someone were in charge of it?
How would a hierarchy of people with various circles of authority prevent assuring housing?
Hierarchy doesn’t mean class, and it doesn’t mean capital.
Democrats famously overrepresent "will Republicans think this is bad" in their policy and strategy metrics and we fucking pillory them for it
Why would communists do the same fuckin thing
It's hard enough to convince people that fascists are fascists. I've managed to do it like... twice, with people I've known for YEARS, and that was with the help of others.
If, per chance, there is someone in this thread who has the leather working skills to leatherbind a copy of this or "Principles of Communism," I will pay you well for your craft.
Seeing a big business sell the manifesto is kinda like a fire department selling molotov cocktails.
The frustrating part is most folks can't keep track of a few terms much less every flavor of post-capitalist project
So yeah, should be an easy job.
The rest isn’t going to be easy either
Yes, you change the name, the stigma goes away. Ppl are that stupid...which is why I don't think communism can work in its current imagined iteration.
Something has to account for stupid ppl, cause they can't be trusted with true equality.
That's a thing that exists and has a name, and even that is treated as blasphemy by the average 'murikan.
If anyone has some name candidates, I am all ears.
I suppose in truth the label doesn’t matter to me; I see Socialism as an intermediary, with Communism as the eventual outcome.
If they're already conditioned to be hostile to some words or concepts, you'd be setting yourself up for failure if you go in using them.
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