You always see people talking about the grand vision, the secret plan or scheme behind what's happening, but taken together the only viable conclusion is that these guys are all complete idiots who believe the all dumbest shit they see online 24/7
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Worse, its a culture built to amplify bullshit. To drown out the real, to oppress truth, to deny reality. A foundation of unseriosuness under which all lies serve to create obfuscation to allow the destruction of meaning and value.
I'm afraid many of them fucking get it. They bring bedlam.
It reminds me a bit (to a MUCH lesser degree) of when the "tea party" was birthed and gullible media said "well, it can't be racism... It must be some other thing that's not stupid..."
Yeah, but like the plan is total fantasy, like I think they really believe they're fighting the deep state. They live in a perpetual Ben Garrison cartoon
The tech billionaires all have convinced themselves that they are each a Jon Galt and that they don't need society, society needs them. They have the emotional maturity of everyone who thinks Atlas Shrugged was great literature.
Amen brother. Like Steve effin Bannon literally stole to build a fake wall and he is calling them out. You got to be the worst of the worst when that guy turns on you.
Absolutely 100% agree. It's not 4D chess, they aren't orchestrating moves to cover up other moves. It's just a bunch of morons who have spent far too much time online believing the dumbest shit possible.
Pretty sure the "grand vision" is to solidly transform the US into the world's #1 authoritarian oligarchy. But the architects of the plan are definitely too stupid to get how badly that's going to turn out for them in the end because others are far better at authoritarian oligarch-ing than they are.
There is a plan to make themselves a stratospheric amount of money by neutralizing any laws or people who could enforce the laws that might get in the way of making themselves huge amounts of money.
there's several groups who all have different Genius Plans, are all trying to execute them at once, and the guy at the top whose job is to referee this dispute is too busy mashing the diet coke button, playing golf and sundowning
With Trump, yes. His ideology doesn’t really stretch beyond his own ego and desire for self-glorification. He can scratch that itch with these strongman cosplays when surrounded by sycophants who clap like seals.
With Vance, it’s both. He agrees with dumb things online *and* is an avowed Fascist.
Like Elon isn't pretending to be a weirdo dunce, that's what he really is, a super rich dumb guy racist who has been completely radicalized by Qanon shit he constantly sees on Twitter
I believe that some people involved in all this are smart, but they aren’t the main players, and it’s questionable how much they will be able to control things
I guess the questions would be, are the dipshit chuds just being used by the true believers like Vought because for breaking shit it doesn't matter if you're smart or stupid, and if so, how do you wedge that.
But also maybe I'm not convinced Musk doesn't have a "grand plan" even if it's dumb.
The PoE thing is the main reason I think he didn't actually interfere with voting. If he had we would immediately be able to tell because Trump would have won California with 80% of the vote or some shit.
Yup and it's exactly the type of dumb, obvious con he would pull and he had to immediately admit it wasn't actually a lottery to avoid running afoul of election laws.
It's honestly astounding that this is controversial. He's a Nazi because he believes that the Jews are trying to replace white people with minorities. He thinks that guilt over the Holocaust is making eugenics impossible and that eugenics would be good. He thinks he is wealthy because of his merit.
He really does believe that some woke mob radicalized his firstborn with a mind virus. He thinks people still believe his sock puppet account is real. He believes we're in a simulation and some people are NPCs. He really genuinely believes this shit.
He's the most incredible example of someone saying exactly who he is. He's a naked emperor who thinks he's wearing a splendid outfit only his devoted followers can see.
You really need to read Curtis Yarvin and about the Dark Enlightenment. Yes Trump is dumb as turnip but Vance isn’t, nor is Thiel. There is a plan, it’s a bad one but it’s there.
People generally prefer to believe that the most evil, bloodthirsty “plan” imaginable is being enacted before they’ll accept that anyone’s flying blind
What, you mean the guy who demanded mass emails of federal workers because he believed the conspiracy theory that most federal workers are fake or don't exist, and thought non-response would expose them? 😑
Why are all these rich people terminally online? Don’t they have access to places, pleasures and experiences that don’t exist for the common man? Why are they spending their time doing the same stuff as wal mart employees on their break?
A grudge-driven guy with a swiss cheese brain is in charge and barely cognizant, a thousand idiots with the weirdest hobby horses imaginable feel emboldened to prosecute them. simple as
Nothing to see here just an ordinary group of men with unresolved Oedipal dramas playing out on a grand scale.
Their solution is always to triumph by destructive means over the symbolic father (seen everywhere: people more respected, institutions, the establishment, etc)
3 things
Ongoing coup2.0 swift consolidation of power phase is occurring
US POTUS is working for Putin not America
It's a complicit collective of the all around worst ppl as required
We know what it looks like when these dumb fucks try to do grand plans. Elon overypaid billions for Twitter because he had a dumb movie heist plan to look at their internal analytics.
Assigning them super villain planning ability is feeding into their propaganda.
They think they're going to invade Canada and Greenland, using an army riddled with measles and riding the latest self-destructing vehicles sold by a South African saboteur.
To some extent. But there is a playbook being followed here as evidenced by how many of the EOs are ripped straight from Project 2025. The US as a whole is reorienting towards a far right, openly hostile, hard power approach, backed by influential think tanks, tech billionaires and other interests.
For example, Elon Musk isn’t going to believe a conspiracy theory that social security is good and should be funded more. Trump and Musk may be delusional and incorporating personal whims, with the rest of the admin following, but they know what their interests and priorities are.
Yes. There’s no plan. There’s never been a plan. Trump has decided he’s a genius because doing the stupidest shit has worked for him in the polls. But that’s not on him. It’s on the gullible American electorate, the pathetic Dems, and a totally useless legacy media.
Exactly. Yes.
I've been puzzling every day, trying to deduce the end game here... and I think it's a bunch of weirdos with different agendas influencing the guy in charge. Nothing more.
Got yrself a follow, fellow smart person.
They had a meticulous plan, and instead of that Elon Musk is just feeding all of the US's classified military intel into his Bullshit Engine and firing anybody whose name it spits back out.
He’s executing their plan —but willy-nilly. His plan is to cause poverty, and chaos to make it impossible to stop whatever illegal things they do next. Also, to make gigantic amounts of money. Trump’s. plan is to make money, as is most of the people working with him. It requires destruction though.
I think that is very true in elon's case, but not the case for most Republicans (excluding the hardcore alt right. I think many Republicans politicians just say or do what will keep them in power and actually have no morals or principals of their own. Vance is a great example of that I think
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I'm afraid many of them fucking get it. They bring bedlam.
It reminds me a bit (to a MUCH lesser degree) of when the "tea party" was birthed and gullible media said "well, it can't be racism... It must be some other thing that's not stupid..."
Nah, they just that stupid
We need our leaders to develop / implement opposing plan now. One that spells out an itemized rebuttal for all to use.
Align efforts, garner support, apply financial commitments, stiffen resolve.
#makeaplan
With Vance, it’s both. He agrees with dumb things online *and* is an avowed Fascist.
But also maybe I'm not convinced Musk doesn't have a "grand plan" even if it's dumb.
It's coupled with the hubris of thinking that understanding one thing makes you an expert in everything.
Their solution is always to triumph by destructive means over the symbolic father (seen everywhere: people more respected, institutions, the establishment, etc)
Ongoing coup2.0 swift consolidation of power phase is occurring
US POTUS is working for Putin not America
It's a complicit collective of the all around worst ppl as required
Assigning them super villain planning ability is feeding into their propaganda.
They think they're going to invade Canada and Greenland, using an army riddled with measles and riding the latest self-destructing vehicles sold by a South African saboteur.
I've been puzzling every day, trying to deduce the end game here... and I think it's a bunch of weirdos with different agendas influencing the guy in charge. Nothing more.
Got yrself a follow, fellow smart person.