The crypto bros and MAGAs have this fascinatingly naive idea that the rules of US society that allow rich people to wander around freely and unharmed will be maintained if 98% of Americans suddenly can’t reliably afford food. They have not hardened their security profiles nearly enough for this. - ThreadSky

faineg.bsky.social • 6 days ago

The crypto bros and MAGAs have this fascinatingly naive idea that the rules of US society that allow rich people to wander around freely and unharmed will be maintained if 98% of Americans suddenly can’t reliably afford food.

They have not hardened their security profiles nearly enough for this.

Reposted from Faine Greenwood

Like, it’s almost cute that America’s crypto bros really think they’ll all get out of this alive if they try to blatantly impoverish every American by crashing the dollar to benefit crypto.

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jomoyo.bsky.social•6 days ago

“What’s that? You say ape holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single ape?”

peoriabummer.bsky.social•6 days ago

They’re not just creating a giant wealth gap while destroying assistance programs, either. They’re publicly gleeful and contemptuous about it!

monkeyminion.com•6 days ago

And like? If they crash the dollar, how do they pay their bodyguards? Large dudes with guns generally like to be paid.

hangriest.bsky.social•6 days ago

That’s why Network State booster Balaji Srinivasan funded this “uber for private security”

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/new-mobile-app-protector-launches-to-provide-elite-private-security-302379247.html

conaldarcy.bsky.social•6 days ago

I've come to realize Peter Thiel built his compound in NZ not as a hedge against global warming, as was often reported, but as somewhere to flee if his takeover of the US government failed.

activateamymode.bsky.social•6 days ago

I've been convinced the Walton Family, who owns Walmart, have had a compound, complete with helicopter pad, for years. If I was a billionaire, I'd have one too, tbh.

conaldarcy.bsky.social•6 days ago

They're all the rage.

activateamymode.bsky.social•6 days ago

Honestly, I'd make mine a commune and try to help people too, but there's a reason I'm not a billionaire. 😂

missom.bsky.social•6 days ago

Still very naive of him given that a complete collapse of the American economy (+the world's reserve currency) will also devastate the global economy, of which NZ is a part.

kevincarson1.bsky.social•6 days ago

And until, as somebody pointed out, his life in the NZ compound will last until his guards and other staff realize they can just unalive him and take his stuff.

activateamymode.bsky.social•6 days ago

These people clearly don't watch enough post apocalyptic sci fi.

peoriabummer.bsky.social•6 days ago

And that is, of course, assuming the sovereign nation of New Zealand even allows him to enter.

bee-d.bsky.social•6 days ago

We cant stop him he has citizenship, bought that many years ago when John Key [another $$ affiliate] was PM here. the planning for this P25 has been in the wings since 1987 for sure and ramped up since 2008 ish

peoriabummer.bsky.social•6 days ago

You’re a whole ass country who can do what y’all want when the world starts falling apart.

nug.monster•6 days ago

peter thiel doesn't have a compound in nz because the local council keeps saying "nope, too ugly, you can't build it".

fernmonkey.bsky.social•6 days ago

You can say shoot here if you want. It's not a banned word.

sonofmrmopps.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yeah Maori know how their ancestors used to solve problems like Thiel lol

electricland.bsky.social•6 days ago

I bet the people of Aotearoa New Zealand are just thrilled he got citizenship

laurellyonlol.bsky.social•5 days ago

This is why they're trying to develop shock collars for guards

wademinter.com•6 days ago

Thiel: "I am a unique godlike genius, who will rebuild a society to my liking out of the ashes of democracy"

Bodyguard: "Hey, I was just talking to the other guys with guns, and we've decided that we're in charge now. If you would, please go stand against that wall..."

missom.bsky.social•6 days ago

Really going to love seeing the Thiel crowd's "everyone who isn't rich is a useless NPC who is incapable of thinking and doesn't have real agency" theory get tested by reality. I love the scientific method, I love randomized control trials!

jpromethusbirdsong.bsky.social•6 days ago

Shhh! Don’t spoil the surprise

elmomollusc.bsky.social•6 days ago

'Every society is nine meals away from anarchy' is meant to be a warning, not a goddamn policy objective.

sopranospinner.bsky.social•6 days ago

How many meals if it's also really really hot outside?

psl4loko.bsky.social•6 days ago

If my experience in Florida when the power in a poorly insulated trailer fails during the hottest part of the year is indicative: one. My wife almost murdered me for making a smartass remark while I was replacing the main breaker in the panel.

sopranospinner.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yep.

psl4loko.bsky.social•6 days ago

A timely pizza delivery moments after I made the remark may have saved my life and denied the ~8' gator in our swamp a meal of my corpse.

islandofreil.bsky.social•6 days ago

Inb4 the indignant anarchists show up to yell at you and tell you you need to read more Theory

wildgorillaman.bsky.social•6 days ago

What exactly do they think their tokens will do for them in the aftermath? They’re not even shiny

https://bsky.app/profile/wildgorillaman.bsky.social/post/3lj4dhkrgok2s

eaos.bsky.social•6 days ago

Agreed.

I mean example – there are for sure cartels and stuff operating throughout the U.S.

When people start starving in Mexico sometimes, I believe the cartels sometimes give food and help and so people actually become more loyal to them than the govt.

Bet that here is no exception…

aurelius.quest•6 days ago

Only if the media connect the dots for people. Elon Musk is putting a target on himself but no one but very online weirdos like us understand how crypto more broadly fits into the demolition of the United States

fairecomments.bsky.social•6 days ago

Question: Hasn’t Trump already set up his buddies to profit wi/out even having gov invest in crypto? He pumps with announcement re particular crypto; then they dump. Insider trading charges? He’s immune & has gutted agencies that could go after his buddies. Am I missing something?

finagle-a-hegel.bsky.social•6 days ago

This is one of my constant thoughts lately. If they had any idea what was being set in motion (including the congressional Rs who are enabling it by doing nothing), they would spend all their time in underground bunkers; they would definitely not be doing town halls and shit!

uofagrad97.bsky.social•6 days ago

Honest to God, they have not thought this through.
If people get desperate, there will be violence. It’s a fact.

stephenschiavone.bsky.social•6 days ago

They are trying.

https://techcrunch.com/2025/03/01/uber-for-guns-app-protector-lets-you-hire-armed-body-guards-like-you-would-an-uber-but-does-anyone-need-this/

lechuck.bsky.social•6 days ago

all you need is a small private army and guarded compounds, it works in most third world dictatorships, why shouldnt it in the US?

gyrogeerloose.bsky.social•6 days ago

Most dictatorships didn’t happen in a country like the US that has more guns than it does inhabitants.

bexone.bsky.social•6 days ago

The problem is they’re also alienating the people who would be that small private army

lechuck.bsky.social•6 days ago

nothing good pay and some privileges cant solve. how do you think dictators all around the world have existed all these centuries

faineg.bsky.social•6 days ago

those are countries with way fewer civilians with tons of guns

conaldarcy.bsky.social•6 days ago

Or shock collars, as they have said.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff

bexone.bsky.social•6 days ago

I can’t help but wonder how exactly they’re planning to convince the large men with guns they *want* as security to uh… put on the shock collars in the first place instead of just using their guns and taking their shit

bexone.bsky.social•6 days ago

They don’t want to pay them though

They want all the money for themselves

faineg.bsky.social•6 days ago

Yes

tubbles.bsky.social•6 days ago

We have way more guns and way more people with guns. Most third world dictatorships got established by the only people with guns setting up shop first, and the guns the regular people have don't come in with anywhere near the frequency as they do in the US. Just look at how hard it was to occupy

tubbles.bsky.social•6 days ago

Afghanistan even with the might of the US military. Now imagine ten times the amount of guns and people. Literally any household could have guns and take potshots at people. There WILL be times where the billionaires aren't covered in bulletproof glass. When Billy Bob who hunts for a living

tubbles.bsky.social•6 days ago

gets the opportunity he will 100% take a shot at them and no amount of armed guards can prevent that kind of thing. The US gun culture is an absolute aberration in the world.

tubbles.bsky.social•6 days ago

As of a handful of years ago, US citizens have almost 50% of ALL the civilian owned guns in the entire world. We have so damn many guns that even people who know the US has a lot of guns would be surprised at how many guns we have. We have more guns than people here.

lechuck.bsky.social•6 days ago

i get it there alot of guns. but its toys compared to actual military hardware. you really want to tell me a bunch of texans with ar15s will fight any sort of professional force?

lechuck.bsky.social•6 days ago

and do US civilians usually have RPGs or stingers provided by foreign powers?

tubbles.bsky.social•6 days ago

You'd be surprised how many illegal weapons people have here too, they just don't advertise it because they want to keep their illegal weapons and don't want to go to jail.

lechuck.bsky.social•6 days ago

i sincerely hope you are correct, but i just dont see it.

benhosp.bsky.social•6 days ago

It’s a common fear for these guys to worry about “when the collapse comes, will my mercenary guards turn on me and take my stuff?” But none of them seem to have thought about it further than “better make sure they’re paid enough not to do that”.

sonofmrmopps.bsky.social•6 days ago

They also seem to have this woefully naive idea that crypto will maintain its value if the US dollar collapses.
Pretty sure I they haven't thought that one through at all.

sonofmrmopps.bsky.social•6 days ago

I think it comes from the erroneous concept of "fiat currency". Basically anyone who buys into this idea thinks that a government simply prints money because they can, and that the "full faith and credit" in the American government doesn't actually mean anything.

ionotter.bsky.social•6 days ago

Remember those UFO/drones in NJ a few months ago?

Guess who was getting high definition laser scans of the terrain to facilitate a fast landing and takeoff from front lawns.

I assure you, they have been very aware of what you describe, and are exceptionally well prepared.

dvdbutler.bsky.social•6 days ago

Oh they’ve all built their survival compounds and have their jets ready to flee

cursed.monster•6 days ago

At which point they will do… something, I dunno, as people find the air vents and fill them with composting waste

lizthegrey.com•6 days ago

NZ doesn't exactly want them so

johaner.bsky.social•6 days ago

Is this the awakening that is required for people to realise they shouldn’t vote for a convicted criminal- hard awakening, but nothing else seems to do it

darkoverlordofdata.com•6 days ago

I got a bow and arrows I'll feed myself what was the advice eat the rich so be sure to stock up on your favorite BBQ sauce

liminalatlaw.bsky.social•6 days ago

You can tell they haven't thought this through because they are even fucking with they cops.

kipwilliams.bsky.social•6 days ago

Reminded of a character in one of Spain Rodriguez's Trashman comics whose last words are "Nothing can harm me today! My moon is in Virgo!"

deanalan5.bsky.social•6 days ago

If the power goes out, their magical computer money will be inaccessible and unusable. Good luck buying bread or water with a Rolex and a pair of Pit Vipers.

capitalistfool.bsky.social•6 days ago

Here, let me plug in this solar panel so that I can be rich again

catservant4.bsky.social•6 days ago

They have no idea what 50 million people with nothing left to lose looks like.

fernmonkey.bsky.social•6 days ago

Nothing left to lose, and ready access to guns.

amazingprizzini.bsky.social•6 days ago

we have so many guns, and we are not great at impulse control on our best days. If you have an economic collapse and social security payments don't go out? All hell will break loose.

fernmonkey.bsky.social•6 days ago

I mean, one of the main things that absolutely everybody knows about Americans is how many guns they have. According to Wikipedia, it's a MEAN number of 120.5 per 100 people. And considering how many people I know with 0 guns...

aprilglick.bsky.social•6 days ago

A nation of Luigis

chipdaniels.bsky.social•6 days ago

It's not like we live in a society where spree shootings by disgruntled employees happen every week.

fernmonkey.bsky.social•6 days ago

I used to work in the EMEA office of a company headquartered in Aurora, Colorado. Every employee worldwide had to watch the "what to do in the event of a disgruntled employee shooter" video and take the test. I was like, guys, we're in PRAGUE, we don't HAVE guns.

lizamazel.bsky.social•5 days ago

I'm old enough to remember knowing what the phrase "going postal" meant and why.

ckbk.bsky.social•5 days ago

You can get three proletarian uprisings from a single ape!

roadkit.bsky.social•6 days ago

They’re all going to be thrown in the pit.

vonhonkington.bsky.social•6 days ago

Even if the crypto stuff is somehow a nothing burger, there's a real chance they'll default on some of the national debt. It's impossible to say what happens after that

craycraig.bsky.social•6 days ago

These people don’t understand that they are on the menu when sht hits the fan

evphoto.bsky.social•6 days ago

Sooner or later we'll need guillotines.

hotelzululima.bsky.social•5 days ago

lol Ukraine has just been the testbed for remote assassinations via drone LOTS of folk have been watching , learning & know exactly how to build drones NOT affected by jamming etc which vendors etc ad nauseam & are overflowing with information on how to make explosives & incendaries from USG

stormancer.com•6 days ago

They know so little about the world that they are convinced that everything we have works naturally, and that all the people who maintain our system, or who explain how complex they are, are profiteers and liars.

stormancer.com•6 days ago

I've had the same arguments with some of my younger developers whose information sources are limited to podcasts. Convinced they knew everything and that, for instance, logistics is an hoax by... whatever their preferred enemy is.

davidevanlovett.bsky.social•6 days ago

literally was explained to a swe II that no, autarky doesn't a) magically happen b) isn't necessarily good c) a goal worth attempting. I swear, too many in the field think everything has package managers

hellomanders.bsky.social•6 days ago

Logistics is an hoax? Huh, I have not heard that one. Strange.

svammel.bsky.social•6 days ago

Don’t tell me we need to transport things when we’ve had NFT’s for years, hello?!

stormancer.com•6 days ago

In this particular case, it's similar to : "Everything we need could and should be sourced locally, and if we don't have laws that forbid from sourcing from more than 200km away, it's because big food/big industry is controlling the gvt."

So not the same ideology I agree, but same way of thinking.

islandofreil.bsky.social•6 days ago

Ugh.

Apparently "logistics" was also a bugbear for David Graeber, because if we have Twoo Anarchy we won't need such "bullshit jobs"

fernmonkey.bsky.social•6 days ago

Eisenhower would like a word from the afterlife.

stormancer.com•6 days ago

It's simple reverse planning. If you want Anarchy to be an utopia where you can have everything you ever wanted, logistics needs to be a joke.

stormancer.com•6 days ago

That said, big food/big pharma/big finance must be so happy to have believed these representatives of the Republican party who told them that Trump would just lower taxes and absolutely not do the crazy things he promised he would do.