Please step back and see this for what it is. They broke the law endangered the mission and national security and released a name of a CIA agent in the clear. But in Trump/Putin's mind even this is a success creating more Division/Chaos for our country.
One underappreciated aspect of this is that Hegseth's horniness for his authority (SD27!!) manifests in his uncontainable excitement for being the guy who gets to tell everyone when the bombs are gonna boom.
What possible reason does he have to tell anyone how the plan is executed except for this?
Also of all the terrible things about this, most notable to me is that nobody has any idea what Trump has actually ordered. He has 24 hours to think about it, no I thought he already decided, let's go!
It's fine. As you know, F-18 pilots are expected to phone home and report their locations and battle plans to their sweethearts and families, there is nothing "classified" about that you liberal wimps.
The White House response at this point is, and I am not joking, "oh but you said they were 'war plans' and now you say they are 'attack plans' you liar, i am very smart"
I guess that part about "whole truth" really means, I will answer in my own way only the question you ask, partly, maybe. So we can't call them war planes or war ships now, they have to be attack (or defense?) planes or ships? (Or is it a boat? Because then my answer is different.)
I cannot know why every member of the current administration lies with such energy and glee, but we - the administration and I - know that it costs them nothing, and admitting error is anathema. And that is deadly.
And since Karoline Leavitt says we aren’t “at war” with Yemen, then that means we aren’t at war with Venezuela, so, let’s get those prisoners back and give them due process.
Hah, I thought you were joking, even though it clearly says you weren't. Saying this again: it's impossible to tell what's parody and what isn't these days.
One critical point of all of this is that the ACTUAL actions taken placed American military lives at risk & likely spent millions in operational costs based on UNCLEAR ORDERS from the President!!!!
The security breach & ridiculous attempts to cover it up are hardly the most important issue here!!
Trump and his clowns will rather have embarrassing top secret info become public than admit they repeatedly lied about its confidentiality.
They could just have said they made a mistake (and fire a few people) but no, that is too much.
The all caps are just so funny (not, but you know what I mean). I mean, “If you’ve hacked in & trying to glean important info from this thread, let me highlight the real significant bits for you so you don’t waste your time.” Jfc
You imagine every morning he looks at himself in the mirror and after he's vomited and his eyes have cleared and can focus, meets his own gaze and says half-incredulously "I'm the mutherfuckin' Secretary of Defence yo. Wow" and makes pistols with his fingers.
J.D. is such a dick, " I pray for victory". A sucker punch attack by fighter jets and missiles and you had doubts? Probably practicing for Greenland. Denmark might want to park some jets and soldiers there for awhile.
Worked on a (low-level) terrorism case for my D. Colo. Judge & had TS clearance. We couldn't even use the word "target" in our orders. EVERYthing was looked over by DOJ/DNI. Tiniest things were deemed "sources & methods." Drove my judge crazy but at least it felt like grownups were in the room.
I’m struck by the buffoonery (“100% OPSEC”) as well as the unsavory mixing of domestic political goals with national security goals. With these people MAGA goals always come first. Everyone should read the whole transcript.
No, they are ingredients for a dish that Tulsi had brought to book club last week. They cut off the last part which says to preheat to 375 and bake for 20 min.
They are now denying this was classified information, but doesn't the phrase "clean on OPSEC" imply that it was? Why would you need OPSEC if it *wasn't* classified?
These guys can't even lie, well. That's how incompetent they are.
They absolutely are. Guessing he's playing semantics, as the texts aren't the full-on operational plan (OPLAN) that are describe the progression of joint operations in a given war.
I for one admire their open source approach to national security. Store nuclear documents in a hotel bathroom, make emergency action plans in a restaurant, announce targets and weapons used in advance on Signal. Cool cool.
53 people, many of them women and children, died in the attack on Yemen. I wonder does JD consider his prayers sufficiently answered by the size of this ‘victory’.
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1. If this information is not classified, why not?
2. If it was classified, why r u discussing it on a commercial app on ur personal mobile phone?
Actually, I'm surprised they didn't claim that as their excuse. Too dumb to think of it I suppose.
Also of all the terrible things about this, most notable to me is that nobody has any idea what Trump has actually ordered. He has 24 hours to think about it, no I thought he already decided, let's go!
The voters who put the clown in chief behind the Resolute desk may be so gullible as to believe your horse shit.
The rest of us, more than half of the American people, know better.
One way or another, there will be a reckoning. You'll have no place to hide.
I've never seen so much parsing & semantics - the only people buying that these egregious Signal texts are okey-dokey are Fox watching MAGAs.
I bet Putin was briefed for his consent and approval.
The security breach & ridiculous attempts to cover it up are hardly the most important issue here!!
They could just have said they made a mistake (and fire a few people) but no, that is too much.
These guys can't even lie, well. That's how incompetent they are.
(Just asking for a friend.)
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202503265591
53 people, many of them women and children, died in the attack on Yemen. I wonder does JD consider his prayers sufficiently answered by the size of this ‘victory’.
These morons are playing with our nation's welfare and they don't even understand their basic OPSEC, Security, etc. training
Honestly, if this was your company, and your VPs did this with proprietary info, do they get fired?
But also, thanks for all your hard work, Mr. Vice President
What about national security?
What about the espionage act?
@5calls.org has made it so easy.
Everybody everyday everybody everyday everybody everyday
Call out your elected officials. @5calls.org they have made it so easy, just follow the script.
Respect