Trump says it will be worst for China because of the trade deficit. However, Trump chose to go to war with the rest of the world, so China aren’t alone.
Perhaps EU will now get more and even cheaper goods from China. Americans will instead get inflation.
And a Depression. China hasn’t been sitting idly by. They’ve created alliances in South America, Africa, and are leaning towards Europe. Canada and Mexico have now shifted to Europe for goods and to sell more product. trump has told the world to F off, and has blown all the trust nations had in us.
It’s heartbreaking that one person could destroy 80 years of good will in 2 months. It’s not that the world ever respected us…more like, tolerated us. What trump has done is show the world that in multiple areas of diplomacy, financial policies and intelligence, America cannot be trusted at any time
I’ll only halfway agree. Because the U.S. is powerful, it’s always been easy to blame the U.S. but I’ve always felt a respect; and perceived others do the same. Not least due to USAID. European TVs are also full of U.S. content.
Your last bit I’ll completely agree with. Trust is broken.
You’re right.. I’d just read the news, so I was a little miffed. America has always been insulated from the issues that other nations face daily. By ignorance, a lack of education, and by our geographic situation. And now, by propaganda. So what is coming for us is going to be a huge shock for many
Will Xi open Trump’s eyes to reality? Since everyone else is always to blame in Trump’s mind, I don’t believe so. Trump will force his will on an ever more expansive population of vulnerable people. #25thAmendment
It's even worse for the USA because they are also picking a fight with all trade partners simultaneously. Even with those they have trade surplus.
For example, Ukraine bought 6 times more from the USA than sold to it last year. Still got tariffs. What else do these guys want from us?
And the worst off is the everyday person on the street as usual. 😥
It has the potential to escalate into something far nastier this, too.
He is now a global threat.
Nope. I think 6-7 Republicans have drafted a bill to reel him in on tariffs, which is being heralded as a “bold move” instead of being heralded as dumb asf since that power is already theirs via the Constitution!
I do a small amount of business out of China every year & one shipment was pulled & held at customs and customs/UPS charged me an additional $70 & wouldn't release my shipment until paid & this was for the service of them having to inspect my shipment, this was the only time this happened in 5yrs 🤷
So, most likely they will hold incoming shipments at the port or customs and then the company/person that ordered the items will be presented with another bill because most likely they already paid for the shipment & if arriving by ship, it was most likely paid for months ago 🤷
They released a statement about how unfair the wal-mart boycott is since they are so amazing and we are just ungrateful. So it's pretty clear that they intend to blame us for their losses, not the obvious big fat old rich white male elephant in the room.
Be prepared.
Walmart chaine for example will close soon because nearly everything they sell is made in China.
And who are the buyers at Walmart?!
Those who can‘t afford more expensive products.
Now everyone can imagine what happens when Walmart has to rise the prizes 104%!
Well done Mr President!
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Seriously- we will be. Or, the second hand market of cell phones is going to get more valuable. Hang on to your old cell phones- can probably sell them for what you paid…
Well, we elected a senile Felon, who was never intelligent to begin with. His ego and lack of ability are his greatest assets. He is despised by every other country and couldn't negotiate a deal that benefited this Country if his life, or ours, depended on it.
China, South Korea and Japan have already been talking. Not sure if any deal has been set. They are probably waiting to see if and how long he does this.
China doesn't owe the tariff, we do. For example: say you're a small business owner that buys X from China for $100 and sells it for $150. $50 profit. Now X costs you $100 + $104. China still gets their $100, US gov gets $104, and if you want your $50, you have to sell X for $254. Buyer of X eats it
Chris Murphy exposed what these tariffs are really about. It’s not a pissing contest it’s so he can shakedown every country and keep all the power to himself and take it away from the people to collapse US democracy
This is what happens you you allow a petulant preschooler in to the White House. He will continue to “one up” the tariffs until no one can come to his birthday party.
Why is this nuts?? He’s a lifetime conman and has never had a successful business. He’s a failure in life. He has zero clue what he is doing other than what the heritage foundation and Putin tell him. Wake up.
He has.In the first two months since his inauguration, Trump has already taken seven golf trips to his own resorts, at a cost of $18.2 million €16.8 m paid for by taxpayers.Trump will surely surpass the €151.5 million €140.1 m that his passion for golf cost the American public between 2017 and 2021.
Part of trumpsky’s debt to putin was paid back by running for President. putin sabotaged the first election and poss helped muskkk with the 2nd. trumps job is to destroy the USA.
WTH kinda dirty 💩 has Putin got on him?? Even malignant narcissist trump knows Putin is smarter than him; the world would believe the solid evidence/ blackmail. He’s groomed Dirty Don for decades
Resisters, please boycott Amazon, Target, Meta, Tesla, X, Space-X, Starlink.
Participate in any or all Work Stops as you can.
During all Work Stops please assist the elderly, volunteer at shelters, donate to local food banks. Organize local barter systems. RESIST RESIST RESIST!
The urban intellectual left is about to find out what happens when you spend 6 decades alienating the rural and industrial poor. The ones who fought your countries wars. The ones who are capable of armed resistance.
I despise the orange monkey but I can't shake the feeling you all deserve him.
That's inevitable. I wouldn't spend to much energy worrying about that. Plus, F47 has zero interest in defending Taiwan. So, it's going to happen. I recommend just recognizing that fact up front.
If you don't have a subscription to The Economist, I would highly recommend this. It's the most reliable source of information regarding Trump's actions.
Actually, I think trump was Always out to screw Americans. That was the mission given to him by putin, in a way. See, putin took trumps ‘measure’, found him to be Really Perfect to be the Destruction of America & ensured he became President. trumps ego did the rest.
I'm fortunate not to shop at Walmart because I live in a larger city with other options.
I cannot imagine people who voted for that imbecile will do because they cannot afford to shop at Walmart anymore.
Wow. The American empire collapses for one man’s ego. Isn’t there something in your constitution about militias and tyrannical governments?!? Isn’t this literally why you have the guns?!
It is. But the nitwits that screamed so loudly about stopping a tyrannical government are the ones that support it. It’s insane. NAZIS of a feather, hang together. That’s exactly how this will end. Americans are finally waking up to the corruption and consequences of a psychopath as president.
Yes. But how does that happen? France, Australia, or Germany helping us drag trump out of the White House by his hair, cuffed would be amazing, and we’d be forever thankful! But it’d be busloads of corrupt congressional and cabinet sycophants, and traitors that are likewise locked up with him.
America needs to grow a set ban together by hundreds if thousands if not millions and remove each and everyone. But they won't. They will have peaceful protest while the news doesn't show it. The GOP dosent fear it. Eventually loosing everything including the ability to responde
Do you feel like we’re slow walking into a repeat of Nazi Germany in the 20s and 30s? That enough people support the fascist, or don’t feel as if it will affect them, so they sit on the sidelines? I believe as hard as it will be, that we need to have national strikes. No work or purchases for weeks
I’d say most of the “guns” are in the hands of the red staters and they are still all in on this nonsense. I’ve never even known someone who’s owned one (very blue stater here). He’d love it if we did that though - he’d invoke the “Insurrection Act” and take total control of the country.
Not necessarily true. Do you live on the East Coast? Literally everyone I know has multiple weapons regardless of party affiliation. But, it’s a West Coast, Pacific Northwest thing..
East coast. It’s a complicated issue but some articles including this one point to higher gun ownership in red states and certainly more gun related deaths in the states with higher gun ownership. What a mess.
Well, that’s what the asshats like today when they fly their “don’t tread on me flags,” but what they really want those guns for is intimidating people more vulnerable. Pew pew pew.
That’s what’s been kind of maddening to me as an American. All the trumpchodes who cry about their 2A rights every time an elementary school gets shot up, and now we’re in the exact scenario that that amendment was actually written for, and it’s nothing but crickets from those same people.
Didn't you know that guns are used for protection against Black folks? BLM protest? Those guns came out real fast. They won't be using it against no gop.
The nuts who ascribe by the militia thing are trumpers who are violent. They mirror every cruel ass trump appointed. These militia types will probably be violent to others who oppose the shit president
Exactly. What he’s doing now is a literal war. An economic war. But he keeps threatening Iran and has moved destroyers and a carrier group to the Middle East to push Iran into a physical war.
But still it's got to appear to some of the servicepeople, at least, that they have to live in this USA after their term, and with all the mad job cuts, that could be rather quickly. They will be pi$$ed at Trump.
Why the hell would they remove their shit they didnt start. This is like 2 kids fighting, one started it but dont wanna admit being in the wrong for starting it and wants the other sibling to stop retaliating back. I hit him first, now he isnt allowed to hit back! Bs politics of a deranged cheetos.
They really do have shit for brains.... What do they think will happen? Are they expecting China to announce 'we're sorry, you were right. We shouldn't have challenged you.' Then they would do what? Do they really think that China & every other country in the world won't retaliate? He's f--ing nuts!
I don’t disagree, but at some point they will go screaming to congress regardless and they will find out the hard way that the entire Republican Party is a corrupt enterprise.
I was disappointed in the ones who voted for him the first time.
Angry at the ones who backed him the second.
Third time? They supported a traitorous criminal who flat out admitted that he was going to be a dictator. Contempt.
It makes it hard, some are family, some close friends. And some are gone.
I had a coworker some years ago who would blame anything the government that she didn’t like on Obama, while he was in office. If it wasn’t him, she’d go back and blame Clinton. Apparently Dubya never did anything wrong in her eyes.
Yes W was a Hall of Fame Pres. Everything was perfect but, oh wait. But it wasn’t. I watched a W speech about what he was going too do to help. At the same time I watched the Dow dropping with every word he said.
Looks like Trump will be putting Walmart out of business soon. 70-80% of merchandise is made and shipped from China. I bet Walmart is so happy they endorsed this lunatic. FAFO Walmart.
How many communities have a Walmart, and nothing else, Walmart comes in and all the local marks close down because they can't compete with the prices, what happens when Walmart is no more.
I imagine a lot of Trump supporters will not be very happy. Why people vote against their best interests is beyond me. Trump carried rural areas by 87%.
They claimed prices would go up too much if they paid living wages and provided health care to employees. Trump said hold my beer! Better not forget to say thank you!
I hate to disappoint but I believe Walmart will survive. If they are buying, say, a shirt in bulk and it costs 3$ and sells it for 10 -> 104% tariff will make that shirt something like 6.12$. Walmart can still sell it for 10$, pass on tariff cost to consumer at 10$ plus 104% surcharge or split cost.
Yes they can do that but in order for that to work, the consumer must buy it! And right now a lot of people are tired of this 🐂 💩 and our boycotting these major retailers. This summer of democracy will be very interesting for everyone 🇺🇸 🗽 🇺🇸 RESIST FASCISM
When 💩 hits the fan and belts have to tighten, people won’thave a choice but pay the best price they can get for whatever they need, be it at Walmart or somewhere else. I sincerely wish you luck and I hope that Americans find a way to bridge the huge divide you currently have in your communities.
No one person can do it all. It’s up to each to decide what they want to do in the Resistance. Those who can will boycott, those you can will protest, some will do both BUT we all must do something! 🇺🇸 🗽 🇺🇸
It’s an example. You can bet Walmart gets preferential price agreement just based on their size and ability to move products. Also, Walmart can still chose to pass on costs. If Walmart pass on costs, where else will people go to when all other sellers are also raising prices?
And all the Dollar Generals, Family Dollar stores. None of that shit is made in America, and none of it ever will be. This might get the whites trash trumpets’ attention?
They're the same products Amazon sell, Amazon are the middle man, I know everything I've bought on Temu was being sold on amazon at about twice the price.
Dang, I really wanted the #Walmart boycott to be a success because of the boycott not because MAGA voted for the 🤡 who paid someone to get him through the Wharton School of Economics.
Not to mention the WALNART, TESLA & TARGET 🎯 BOYCOTTS Funny how these billionaires think that we’re just gonna lay down and take whatever they dish out. It truly will be FAFO for all of them. Keep it up everyone. RESIDT FASCISM
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What pisses me off is it's clear like 80% of Congress would vote to end this particular insanity in a heartbeat.
But they're all so terrified of Trump - - a petty stupid senile blow hard - - that they won't move until enough people are hurting and screaming enough to give them an excuse.
The mineral rich countries he's attacking who have a fraction of the population of America can go ahead and trade with other countries and they will become stronger. American businesses WILL move to the better economy. America has 400,000,000 people to employ, house and feed with no trade. The End.
I don't really understand much more than "tariffs are taxes."
Does anyone have ideas about how this actually might look in the real world?
Will countries still ship goods that are too expensive for people to buy?
The Bible says 1/3 of ships will be destroyed - could trade drop by 1/3?
Yes, a 104% is essentially just a trade embargo (imposed on ourselves!). All but boutique quantities of trade with China will halt. Will be a complete seizure of domestic manufacturing, as critical inputs of just-in-time supply chains stop flowing. *If* they actually do this, it's armageddon.
It means large swaths of the USA won’t be able to afford the cheap stuff they budget to live on anymore. Xmas will be a tree with nothing under it…that is if trees are even available by that time.
I sell a product my Cousin invented on Amazon. It used to cost me 10 dollars after shipping and Duties. Now it’s going to cost me 25 dollars. I sell it for 25. It won’t sell for more. No longer makes sense. I’m hosed
Will you pay double for the item?
Or will you leave it on the shelf?
If you still will buy even when it is double the price they will ship goods, because they don't pay the tariff, the importing company does. And that importing company will charge you for that tax. So, do you still buy?
It’s Americans who place the orders. When the order arrives at the USA the customs agent will charge the tariff to the American who placed the order to allow it to come into the country.
China sends Fred a Diesel Heater for his RV for $100. USA customs charge $105. New cost to Fred is $205. Cheapest US made price $350. Fred pays additional $105 to US “government”
The Chinese pay $0
Big losers are US citizens. This is the price of worshipping a false god.
I just retired from a job where I imported and exported. In simple terms...a company (say Walmart) buys a doodad from China for a $1. When it enters the US the tariff must be paid by buyer so that $1 cost and 104% tariff means WM now paid an additional $1.04. so total cost to them is now $2.04
Yeah, Jesus is pissed and rethinking the whole forgiveness thing. No one would be stupid enough to do this in the real world... Oh, Revelations? The one they put at the end of the book to push sales? We are fucked.
This basically means the wholesale prices of goods from China double. They can't enter the country unless the importer pays the tariff when the goods hit the docks, so it won't get shipped at all. And every bit of it that does get imported will see the price passed to consumers.
So your business ordered a container of product from China 2 months ago. It gets unloaded tomorrow, customs takes it, and charges you 104% of the price you already paid for it, in order to get them to let you take the product. Now you have to decide how your business is going to make up for that.
Small businesses around me that we used to go support started flying trump flags during the election. I obviously stopped shopping there and I look forward to their for sale signs🤷🏻♀️
Walmart is practically the only store in my county (and 3 surrounding) besides DG where you can reliably get non-grocery household items. the local goodwill and thrift stores don't have much. This is gonna suck ass. Guess who this county voted for. 🍊 🤡
Oh for sure. Scarcity of resources for the poor/elderly/disabled is already piss poor at baseline. I would give anything if I could just not give a fuck about my neighbors bc "that's what they voted for" but my heart doesn't work like that.
Now this is a FAFO moment for corporate greed for the ages BUT let’s not forget that small businesses were put out of business in small rural communities and now with these inevitable price hikes, people in those communities will suffer. Rural is typically red though so I guess we are ok with this…
So far every trump voter in my circles still very much wants this. We are blown away by how happy our maga family members are with this administration. Insane but true.
Small business & large US businesses were put out of business by Walmart decades ago which actually stated this snowball rolling plus the Walton family greed added to the blizzard by refusing to pay manufacturers in the USA instead brought in goods from overseas as seen by all finally during COVID
My bet is the Walton family will get an exemption from tariffs for Walmart stores, perhaps in exchange for a contribution to a PAC, or purchase of some of the first family's crypto currency, or...
Wally mart for many red states is the only store for miles. And I guess maga will be most patriotic and buy everything? If they have any money left from buying food...
100% It's the closet store where I live, the closet Trader Joe's is an hour + away. Decent stores are already too expensive. Everything has gone tits up & these idiots still support a traitor.
Walmart can put pressure on the Republicans in office. Threaten them with not giving them a dime for reelection. They can sue the Republicans in Congress and the Trump administration. They can do both.
I agree. The point is we need the Republicans in Congress to act and the only way they’re going to do anything, is if they’re at risk of losing their financial backers.
That's what I said. Good luck Walmart and Amazon. Hope the front row seat at the inauguration was worth it. The only ones that's going to make any money off the tariffs are Trump and Elon. Entirely predictable.
Having Trump as the President of the United States is like one time when I was little, my parents said "Get in the car we're going to Wally World, woohoo!" and I ran to the car all excited and we drove to fucking Wal-Mart.
I think the Waltons are just fine and will be fine. They are getting what they wanted and have so much generational wealth this is but a minor inconvenience. Bigger question: How will their poorly compensated workers fair without taxpayer supported programs like SNAP?
These jackasses are so rich they've lost sight as 2 how they became so rich. Does Bezos really think his idea would've worked N any other country N the world? No, it wouldn't have. He forgot, We made him rich, not the other way around.
485 x 1.04 = 504.4 billion dollar tax hike for Americans. Enjoy. Oh, and make sure to ask Trump where that money is going will ya because it surely won't be going to you.
Revenue will be far less than estimated because many people cannot afford those items now, don't need it and will find another substitute or do without.
Yes. There’ll be a point where the market can’t bear it. When that comes, the US will have to do without that product or resource. What will those be? Trump’s reaction will probably be to invade and take, but he won’t take on China.
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If you have a relative that’s a Trump loving farmer please check on them regularly. He bankrupted them in his first term and it seems he wants suicides this time around.
The Shitler regime wants to break us all so when his factories are built (like his wall was, ha!) we'll work for almost nothing. No unions. Wages like they make in China and kids will all be working at 10 years old too. No school just work in the factories. That's what they want.
You have to fight these morons. And if it doesn’t work, fight again. America, the land of the free. How can people in congress watch this without saying a word? Even endorse the sicko.
We are trying but the traitors to our Democracy, the GOP, hold majority control in both chambers of Congress and we have a NAZI Supreme Court that is with the orange NAZI in charge. Dems in Congress are finally waking up but a lot need replacing because of their old archaic ways of thinking.
China has lots of people, to find workers there will never be a problem. How can American factories get enough cheap labor now that Trump has deported lots of people? He is not the most logical person around really.
There will be a lot of desperate white people also that have lost their jobs and can't get another. And what about older people living on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid if that's gone? Those people will need a job.
It doesn’t matter much. America has how many people? +330 million people. China has more than 1,4 billions, that is way over a billion more than the US.
Yup. Someone needs to do the job. And school and education is not important to the present administration, so kids may just as well contribute as cheap labor.
Simple, they think if they destroy the economy bad enough and wipe out the middle class we will all be so desperate for work that we will work for scraps like china. They think the average person in a bread line is a good thing. They fail to learn from history so they will be doomed to repeat it.
And if that fails then they will find reasons to arrest the average person and force them into prison labor jobs that are “essential” for the country to survive. All while the billionaires buy up the bankruptcies for pennies on the dollar.
Any jobs returning will be filled robotically. Manufacturing no longer requires human labor. Americans still won't have the job but they can at least buy American soon!
Soon? Like in 2-3-4-5 years. And you will still need the things you make products from as long as you don’t have the minerals and goods needed yourselves, and other countries may do like China and stop the trade.
Also, to buy you need money, and no work means no money.
The thing is - people will still buy Chinese in American because even at these tariff levels, Chinese goods are still cheaper. Whereas in China, people will stop buying American goods.
So, as I understand it..a manufacturer has a shipment arriving at the docks tomorrow. Let’s assume he was invoiced $100,000 for this shipment . For ease of math, let’s assume the tariff is 100%. So now he has to pay $200,000 when the goods arrive. If he doesn’t have the extra $$ can he refuse it?
(I used to work in international financing so I have a bit of an idea how this works). My point is, is there a chance that the ships are going to get backed up with shipments that can’t be offloaded be use of the tariffs? Has anyone thought about this?
It would probably get to a point like when people were just burning fresh crude because the cost of a barrel plunged so it didn't make sense to refine it and sell it. It's probably easier and cheaper to Boston tea party the cargo than to sort out the logistics
The reason is simple, they are too scared of him to start an Article 25 on Trump, they want it to be initiated by an outside source so their hands are clean!
Half of them believe they are hastening the rapture and have their bags packed, the other half have bunkers and personal security army’s and believe they get to emerge after the chaos and rule the world
And the first group hasn't the foggiest what Jesus asked for, which wasn't to try to puzzle it out with a mortal brain. They're treating their neighbors like crap just for the sake of this rapture... and if God really did come back down at this point He'd be very very angry!
Not to get these *Christians*-ish people all kerfuffled, but the Rapture originated in the 1830s. It’s NOT in the Bible. Nowhere, no verse, no scripture. It’s the fantasy of some guy. Only 166k are saved in this myth. Some folks aren’t going to see the light, despite their wealth. Booeffinhoo.
An event that in Latin is referred to by a cognate term appears in the Revelation drama. What it means exactly is an eschatological debate. Reason seems to suggest to me that this drama and related materials in the Old Testament are intended to communicate event patterns.
So that they can line their own pockets! They unload stocks before the announced tariffs (insider trading) like mtg did; then they let the Market tank and buy up stocks at a savings.
Seems like small potatoes for China, cat playing with its kill, because they could just call in all its US debt and send rates spiraling. Not doing it, and don't know why. US may turn around and not pay up, but that'll collapse the US dollar. Toying with Trump.
I picture Jinping and trump and jd pants in the WH and Xi saying, "Right now, you have no cards. With me? You have cards. And you have not thanked me once" NOW SAY THANK YOU!
Imagine how Walmart & Bezos feel about kissing Trump's ass with millions of dollars? You'd think they'd know that there is no quid pro quo with Trump only pro bono for him.
Here we go again! - the American people are again caught in one of tRump's pissing contests, this time with China, all so he can strut around and feel the power. I cannot blame the people enough who allowed this regime to happen.
I guess corporal bone spurs wants his war with the biggest guy in the room, wonderful for all those that will fight it while he hides in a golf course.
I think China can survive without the US, but American businesses are dependent on goods/parts from China. China has the market on electronics for decades. China has the upper hand.
Meh ... in truth, all countries will be hurting fair bit from Trump's trade war. Our global economy is too tightly interconnected for this not to be true.
I grew up in the 40,s and 50,s England. We did OK without Americas products. By the way I, m a US citizen and understand why Americans have got used to more of everything. They don’t remember history. “Dust bowl and Depression”
I heard on The World program last night that Cambodia which was tariffed the highest 49% has nothing to offer to the US. They are very poor & cannot buy the Teslas or expensive US washing machines or whatever. So, Xi is visiting Cambodia this week so that he can negotiate & give them a better deal.
Most of the world will be just fine without the USA.
People should have paid attention during the pandemic. There’s a clue on just how dependent we are on other countries.
And then beats our very stupid President in a game of financial chess. Do you see how this circles back to Trump being unfit to lead the United States in the 21st Century?
Trump is 100% unfit for office and never should've even been taken seriously as a candidate.
The fact that he was elected twice shows that the problem is greater than just Trump though. There is a cultural issue at the heart of the US, and it all stems from corporate America's brand of capitalism.
Yup. China holds $768 billion of American debt. Can you imagine what they could do if they start calling in these debts? As the orange guy would say himself, they have the cards.
The importer who then passes the inflationary tariff onto their customer. You if you want something from China. I have seen vids on IG that are like Bush‘s lie ‘read my lips. The country of (said forcefully) export🙄🤦🏻♀️ pays the tariffs.’ I think most, duped by trump still don’t know it’s a lie.
They want retaliation. They want conflict so they can justify military action. That’s where this is headed. Same with the peaceful protests here. They’ll antagonize until something happens then they’ll use law enforcement and military to crush any opposition. It’s coming.
Problem is that nobody is taking the US seriously anymore…even if he stops everything tomorrow, how will the rest of the world know that he starts it all again on Monday!
Here’s a troubling little factoid: Today, most active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs) used for drugs in the United States are made in China, including 95% of U.S. imports of ibuprofen, 70% of acetaminophen, and 40-45% of Penicillin.
This is one of those "cart before horse" situations. If you wanted to "bring jobs back to America", on day one, you give $1 trillion in subsidies and incentives to American manufacturers. Give them a year to get their factories set up. THEN global tariffs, if you wanna be a dick about it.
I think he’s trying to tank the market, then he and his billionaire boys club will swoop in and buy low. The tariffs will be lifted and the market rebounds making all those fvcks even richer while having destroyed the working class.
Or, maybe trying to start a war with China that we would not win, especially while decreasing troops--also while Putin is building up his! He is certifiable.
The intent must be to kill us all, but that's crazy! Who will buy their shitty stuff if we're dead? Even if it is all made in US, which is impossible anyway to produce every last item we use. Years of planning, if even! Kinda like using bleach to kill Covid! Crazy man!
only difference will be the orders on the way. I guess there will be some reverse logistics in the coming weeks for the rejected custom duties. Expect shortages soon.
Guess the dollar store will have to rename itself the two dollar store. This will affect both poor Democrats and poor Republicans. The sad part is that the poor Republicans will support their orange king.
Amazing considering a lot of American manufacturers are based in China some of them set up shop in Vietnam and Taiwan and I do believe past Republicans where responsible for allowing them to move overseas correct me if I am wrong on this. The moved because the cost labour was cheaper.
But… correct me if I’m wrong… we don’t “collect” anything, do we? China doesn’t pay us tariff money, we don’t collect tariff money… just looking at the screen shot
U.S. Customs and Border Protection collects tariffs when goods enter the country. It is paid by the importer, usually the company that bought the stuff. Goods are not released from the port until the paperwork is filed and tariff is paid.
If I buy $1 million of stuff from China for my retail chain, I can not take custody of them from the port until I pay the tariff based on the class of good and what I paid for it. At 104% tariff, I would have to pay the CBP $1.04 million to take custody of my $1 million order.
To be fair our farmers generally vote for the right wingnuts who sell them out to the mining industry, destroy their export markets and exacerbate climate change. Luckily for them our current govt governs for all and supports them even while they complain. Farmers are quite weird really.
And who is keeping the books on this? Will we see the numbers and categories of items on which these tariffs are collected? Leavitt was touting the transparency of this administration in her Liars’ Club question and answer session today and I just want to see the receipts.
I own a retail store IN MEXICO importing much of merch from the USA which is often imported from China. These are USA based companies with employees. This will kill their business, and mine. His power trip has got to end!
Does Wall Street not understand that China literally shut down their economy for Covid just the other day? As such, I’d be shocked if they didn’t retaliate even further to Trump’s retaliation. Plus, they are talking to S. Korea and Japan. Only Trump could get 3 long-term rivals to bury the hatchet.
Other nations are likely to go with reciprocal tariffs despite Trump repeatedly claiming his tariffs are reciprocal - probably because he doesn't understand what reciprocal means.
He seems to think quality and safety standards are tariffs. Something about a bowling ball being dropped on your car and if there is the slightest dent they say you can't sell it. It's not a monetary tariff but it's still a tariff. 🙄
IKR! I don't think he knew what groceries were until he ran for president. I don't even what to know what they ate in Trumpland before the introduction of groceries! LOL
Other countries are actually looking at other options. I've been reading about this. They're not going to depend on us and they don't want a depend on us. We are going to be the ones who get screwed
He’s basically pushing Taiwan to China because he will not negotiate with Taiwan. They said let’s do a reciprocal tariff of 0% and the felons team shut that down.
Dear Leader will then source all his internal prison labor to make the goods - and round up more brown people to be state slaves for American manufacturing’s glorious return. Watch. This is all going to connect in some horrible way.
It’s all nuts…especially that we are still suffering from America’s original sin, racism. Without racism, Dumb Donnie Dump is just another reality game show host.
Just read article saying it’s like Christmas business at Apple stores now. I am trading my 1st & last iPhone (the most expensive model if asking) & going back to Samsung. iPhone is for plug & play & Samsung is for people who like to customize their phone to their individual preferences. That’s me 🙋🏻♀️
sigh, I have iPhone but don't use it much for anything but "phone" But I depend on iPads (for eyesight reasons) and so I'm stuck in the ecosystem. But I don't plan on getting a new phone anytime soon. Either the tariffs will die or we won't be allowed to own phones for "security" reasons.
They really reel you in don’t they! Also iPhone is too frickin’ authoritarian for me! Even w/set to ‘don’t correct’ if still does if doesn’t like your word. I have good friend named Dick & iPhone doesn’t like it so it insists on writing ‘duck’ every time for a year! Hey iPhone it’s not a typo!
I recommend backing up & not bringing your phone in/out US. For coyotes (Toshi🦊has been aggressively stalked) I wear pepper spray on lanyard & always carry a blindingly bright tactical flashlight w/flashing mode. Good self-defense & kidnapping attempts.
On Samsung I can do in 2 moves what takes 5 steps on iPhone! (I know you know already!) On Samsung if you make a typo, you highlight & it replaces w/similar word trying common words first, no repeats. iPhone endlessly pulls up the exact same word until you type each letter STILL. So much more!
I never used Blackberry. Not a phone but you know what I think has the best agenda format? PalmPilot. Apps have tried to duplicate but no cigar yet. Oc I don’t use it now but I was so surprised! I charged it & it still works great! Decades later! 👏🏼👏🏼
iPhone has rested on its laurels too long. They’re like dinosaurs! The rapacious way Apple by design locks you in & charges for Samsung built-in apps w/no ads. On iPhone everything goes to their cloud so charges go up! Europe has laws can’t change charging equip like Apple does to get more of your💸
I'm waiting for China and perhaps other nations to announce a complete economic embargo of the USA until either the tariffs are removed, or Donald Trump is removed.
Yep… sanctions from every country in the world. Economic war is still war, and trump started it.. Just like he’s planning to do with Iran.. Only physically.
Trump’s tariff strategy is so Mickey Mouse. Anyone with a brain knows his track record is to keep retaliating even after they agree. His word is shit. Why would China just back down? So stupid. The world can now see why so many of his businesses failed.
No country will say this! It is up to US citizens to realise what is happening. The rest of the World is waiting for them to realise their mistake, and correct it.!
We won't do that, but we will be happy to let the others do the heavy lifting for us. Aus is playing possum at least until after the election, but neither of the party leaders has the balls for big protests.
MAGAs love Wal-Mart. Will this be enough for them to storm the Capitol again? Cuts to Medicaid, messing with social security and now they won't be able to afford Wal-Mart should be enough to send MAGAs off the edge, right? Stupid 🍊🤡😂
China is not scared , China will not back down , they know trump is a shitbag and will crumble . They see the tide turning. Americans are pissed and taking action. China knows all about trump. They know he is trying hard to act like a tough guy ,but he's a crybaby . trump WILL FOLD CHINA KNOWS IT.
This could mean trump and Vance will have to kiss President Zelenskys ass for a chance at that rare earth deal they screwed up.
Zelensky is a HERO that deserves the ZEROS (trump and vance) to be on their knees, begging his forgiveness .
I felt like that was blackmail coming from trump.
Here’s what’s even funnier. Even if Zelensky doesn’t slow walk or cancel all together (which he should). It would take years to exploit the mineral deposits. Trump would be long gone having destroyed the US technology industry and any possible future it might have had. MAGA.
What China should do is remove all products being made by them for magat billionaires. Or no products to the US at all. Screw the tariff war... jut stop trading with us. See how long the tariffs last then.
rump is making being an american so shameful that I won't buy american. I don't care where the the stuff I purchase is made so long as it's not US or Russia. No country or american asked for this level of stupidity. He created the problem & when China won't bend he'll fold & say he showed them! 🤡
It’s all going to be expensive. I’m going to do what I did in his last term. Not buy anything other than food. No clothes, no extras. And I’m going to stop putting money in my 401k because it’s disappearing as I’ve already lost 20k in the last few weeks.😡
I did the same last go round. Just bought what I needed, not wanted. Stopped paying into my Roth, and actually save a fair amount of money. Assuming I stay employed through this chaos, I expect I'll be able to squirrel away some decent cheddar.
Hmm... what would you guess? ...Maybe 80% of domestic manufacturing uses at least some Chinese components? Is it more?
I doubt losing the American market will even make a dent in China's economy.
Well Pierre, if you were to get rid of everything you use that has Chinese components in it, you'd very likely end up with nothing more than that which folks used in the 20th century... and only the really-really old stuff would still work.
Sure, but a gazillion made in China items society really does not need. Temu, Ali, and Amazon carry 90% of crap that only pollutes the planet by being made and transported.
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Trump says it will be worst for China because of the trade deficit. However, Trump chose to go to war with the rest of the world, so China aren’t alone.
Perhaps EU will now get more and even cheaper goods from China. Americans will instead get inflation.
Your last bit I’ll completely agree with. Trust is broken.
40% of US imports are from China.
Guess which country can replace their trading partner easier?
For example, Ukraine bought 6 times more from the USA than sold to it last year. Still got tariffs. What else do these guys want from us?
https://bsky.app/profile/jonasmfskb.bsky.social/post/3lmdfq4pis22n
It has the potential to escalate into something far nastier this, too.
He is now a global threat.
It ended their careers
It remains to be seen if these leaders will succeed in checking Trump's excesses
Or if they will be replaced by yes men who will fall in line
That choice lay solely w/the Right
Walmart chaine for example will close soon because nearly everything they sell is made in China.
And who are the buyers at Walmart?!
Those who can‘t afford more expensive products.
Now everyone can imagine what happens when Walmart has to rise the prizes 104%!
Well done Mr President!
🤦🏻♀️
Markets are tanking.
#trumpcession
Bye, Family Dollar.
Bye, electronics.
Bye, cheap prices.
Hello, dumbass tariffs.
https://bsky.app/profile/chrismurphyct.bsky.social/post/3lluxkmx7wc2m
This winning is so...
He's repaying him his debts by intentionally crashing the markets.and pumping crypto and bitcoin
Participate in any or all Work Stops as you can.
During all Work Stops please assist the elderly, volunteer at shelters, donate to local food banks. Organize local barter systems. RESIST RESIST RESIST!
I despise the orange monkey but I can't shake the feeling you all deserve him.
No telling what he is telling Bezos.
Unfortunately, this needs to happen for at least a couple months to wake people up.
The marionette continues to dance and speak as master wills it.
“Cripple American economy at all costs, escalate as much as needed, the goal is America falling on its sword.”
Give the dotard a cloud to yell at while he pulls the cart off the cliff.
I cannot imagine people who voted for that imbecile will do because they cannot afford to shop at Walmart anymore.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-violence-by-state
They don’t dare to use their guns.
But still it's got to appear to some of the servicepeople, at least, that they have to live in this USA after their term, and with all the mad job cuts, that could be rather quickly. They will be pi$$ed at Trump.
Why???
Pretty clear there's no amount of pain that will break the spell over his cult. They ain't taking up arms anytime soon.
This is cartoonish, like everything else.
As i understand it. I'm not a tariff expert. Feel free to correct if wrong folks.
If you then sell it for $150 and lose 54$, or sell it for 254 and earn the same 50 is up to you.
Thank you!
AMERICA is DESTROYING ITSELF.
https://improvemandarin.com/chinese-lessons/
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/trump-wrecks-economy-fox-news-pivots-blaming-biden
Because of all the people who didn’t think J6 was a deal breaker and voted for a fascist.
Angry at the ones who backed him the second.
Third time? They supported a traitorous criminal who flat out admitted that he was going to be a dictator. Contempt.
It makes it hard, some are family, some close friends. And some are gone.
Same old song and dance......
It's always a Black Mans fault
After she and Hillary told us this would happen
WS pundits - amazon is a good investment! ( @cnbc.com this morning)
My point is MAGA has shot itself in the foot. They will feel the cost of tariffs in automated Walmart checkouts. Not sure if they will get it, though.
Lots is being done!
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But they're all so terrified of Trump - - a petty stupid senile blow hard - - that they won't move until enough people are hurting and screaming enough to give them an excuse.
The employees are happy (by & large) but they also know that tariffs will hit hard on import goods (wine, alcohol)
Does anyone have ideas about how this actually might look in the real world?
Will countries still ship goods that are too expensive for people to buy?
The Bible says 1/3 of ships will be destroyed - could trade drop by 1/3?
Countries may still try to ship them, but sales could slow down or stop. Hence the tariff retaliation.
It depends on how steep the tariffs are, how essential the product is, and whether there are alternatives available.
Or will you leave it on the shelf?
If you still will buy even when it is double the price they will ship goods, because they don't pay the tariff, the importing company does. And that importing company will charge you for that tax. So, do you still buy?
The Chinese pay $0
Big losers are US citizens. This is the price of worshipping a false god.
New cars take years to arrive in uk after paying I gather
The vast majority of our produce, especially this time of year, comes from Mexico & South America. We cannot afford to pass on the tariffs.
It's one thing to have out of style clothing.
ROTTING PRODUCE = TOTAL $$$ LOSSES
Expect empty shelves
I think people will also go back to thrifting, market goods exchanges.
Newsweek
https://www.newsweek.com › president-trumps-pardons...
President Trump's Pardons Create His Own Private Army
After he lost the election, Trump summoned to Washington the Proud Boys and other pro-violence groups like the Three Percenters, The Oath Keepers, the Texas Freedom …
But yeah I don’t doubt that a ton of dummies bought in thinking they caught the knife
Also, to buy you need money, and no work means no money.
Article 25 now!
Half of them believe they are hastening the rapture and have their bags packed, the other half have bunkers and personal security army’s and believe they get to emerge after the chaos and rule the world
“You raised my tariffs to 34%? Then I raise your tarrifs to 3400%!”
Just economy by idiocy.
Trump : “I’ll put infinity tariffs on you China!”
I get the "more tariffs will fix it" vibe from donald hoover if things don't work.
Never forget or forgive them!!! 🤢
On my very first job, my supervisor told me, if you make a mistake, let me know ASAP, and we'll fix it as soon as possible.
If you don't, you're fired.
They are not novices.
🍊 💩 can't even form a complete sentence.
He's out of his league here. 😬
USA won't survive without China.
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Too bad, so sad.
People should have paid attention during the pandemic. There’s a clue on just how dependent we are on other countries.
The fact that he was elected twice shows that the problem is greater than just Trump though. There is a cultural issue at the heart of the US, and it all stems from corporate America's brand of capitalism.
There’s a lot. But of course trump thinks he’s going to out smart everyone. This just isn’t going to end well for us.
#USpol #TRUMPTARIFFS 🤦🏽♀️
Standard Narcissist move.
Extortion.
Which is why it's basically a tax on people in the states.
April 12, 1861 – April 9, 1865
For 160 years the confederates have been stewing, & planning revenge.
What better day to provoke China than the, losers day?
Malfeasance in office?
Works with Republicans, who have been drinking trickle down for decades, convinced it’s lemonade.
The one thing they forgot to tack on to this that would have made it all a nothing burger...
FREE PONY RIDES FOR THE KIDS !!!!!!!!!
I know, I should be a US Senator. Just don't have the hair for it.
C'mon tough guy.
Watcha got?
Oh, my lunch money too?
I hated it so much, I only lasted 6 months and have been using Samsung for 20 years.
And yeah, economic embargo makes sense.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-object-european-push-buy-weapons-locally-2025-04-02/
Treat the US like any other aggressive opposing regime.
https://www.reuters.com/world/china-hits-back-us-tariffs-with-rare-earth-export-controls-2025-04-04/
Zelensky is a HERO that deserves the ZEROS (trump and vance) to be on their knees, begging his forgiveness .
I felt like that was blackmail coming from trump.
After that, bye, bye US economy.
That was the whole plan from China, and Americans have been swindled buying cheap garbage for 45 years that lasts a year or two.
Manufacturing is a strength we ceded to China. 😒
I doubt losing the American market will even make a dent in China's economy.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce84jr5mvnno