Dit alles gaat uit van overwegend rationele overwegingen die het gedrag zouden bepalen.
Echter: 85+ % van menselijke handelingen is emotioneel gedreven.
This could work, but the fact that they are trying to move at blitzkrieg speed makes me think that they know that time is not on their side. They're carpet bombing before their cult has much chance to question their beliefs.
Thanks for posting. I like how you kept altering "the basis" so Grok could learn and answer better. It sort of didn't take into play Trumps personality and love of bragging. I wonder what ChatGPT would have concluded
I have been chatting with Poe on similar subjects. It's rather enlightening and a better level of discourse than I expected. We have discussed the coup in detail.
It's weird to see the events grok latches onto and repeats, and the ones they ignore. They don't mention the appointment of incompetents to the cabinet or arrest and deportation of people without due process or gutting of social security, medicare/medicaid, food assistance, and veterans benefits.
The assumption here is that AI is an oracle. It absolutely is not. AI doesn't have what it takes to be wise, because it doesn't know anything. It might be possible to infer that most of the writers Grok is drawing on are pessimistic about our future. But I don't know what that would show.
Actually, there's mounting video proof felon Donald Trump & Nazi Elon Musk altered the votes in the 2024 United States presidential election.
The bad new is the aforesaid, Trump's Admin (including the Attorney General) & MAGA Republicans in Congress are all corrupt. So, no one is investigating!
I understand … they will bring us to end our civilisation as we know it .. all because of greed, power and not having ever enough .. these people lack LOVE , that’s the issue !
Voter suppression and disenfranchisement in itself was substantial in changing the outcome of the election. North Carolina Supreme Court just disallowed 60K votes in that states election.
@gregpalast.bsky.social is a documented source for this and past election fraud.
😮.. the sceletons will eventually fall out of cupboard and there will be no more doubt… but present events including this one, sre obviously pointing to what we all think ..
wld go further, starting to think the 'assassination' attempt was orchestrated by palantir, problem was he actually got whizzed in ear which played even better...it was all perfectly orchestrated...few hours later musky endorses, fight fight fight clip viral, andreessen horowitz endorses with $...
I don’t think this fragile, bone-spur dependent, physical weakling who was terrified of a tethered eagle, would have had anything but a terrified belly-to-the-ground reaction if bullets flew nearby and was actually “injured” in the process. Common sense. He’s an actor folks and that’s a WWE move 💯!!
Yes, I never ever believed it 100% when it happened.. he needed to look “strong” and “under attack” .. so he made himself to look like a matter? .. I did think that .. God only knows how it all came about .. how can anyone trust anything what is associated with Trump & Co ?
I agree with you. But we have no recourse. They cheated the tabulations by making the wins with the safe margins so as to prevent an automatic recount.
"Assuming one opposes violence" is where this conversation becomes just shits and giggles. The people who sit in a chair while everything is on fire and pontificate about the morality of resistance are the people who find themselves on trains. We all better read some history and prepare.
I keep trying to come up with the "final straw" scenario where there's a (very well-armed!) MAGA uprising but I'm struggling with how that solidifies into solidarity with the resistance from the left that's already ongoing.
"Trump’s not playing the subtle saboteur; he’s swinging a wrecking ball with his name on it." Grok left out the part where Elon was swinging a chain saw.
This entire thread is the scariest thread I've ever read on Bluesky or Twitter.
We're all screwed.
Jesus Christ.
Everyone with one eye open knows all of this to be true, but I guess it's nice that Skynet agrees.
We're kinda fucked.
Stay strong, and we will endure eventually.
I think Grok might be overly optimistic. Add the “cult” aspect in. What if they are all in a cult and it’s not politics as usual. What if they are all willing to die and go broke for the president?
Gandhi and MLK showed how powerful non violence is . We need the courage to face Trumps police guns with signs and flowers. Police are triggered by violence , passive resistance makes them think of their role in fascism.
You forgot to ask what happens when there are no more elections and the citizens are reduced to living in a John Steinbeck novel. I’m much smarter than AI …based on AIs tariff formulas. Answer: People overthrow tyrants by whatever means are at hand. That’s reality.
"under the constraints of legality and non-violence"
This is the exact problem. The Nazis are not constrained by law. We need enforcers or the law is meaningless.
The plan can't be to "wait it out" with protests, 🍊 will soon start a war.
It's not an insurection when #Amendment14_3 had already Disqualified insurectionist tdump and it's aiders/COMFORTERZ vampzz,all cabinet,maikey MTG Cruz ect, allGop,.
When this ALREADY DISQUALIFIED insurectionist comforter government is so ILLEGAL, it's ENFORCING 14_3's banned penalty not a revolt!
This is a compelling argument for sure (and don't get me wrong, I agree), but...they could argue that by pardoning people, those people are no longer considered guilty. Maybe there's already a legal argument to be made against that?
There’s also the theory he’s just amazingly talented at bankrupting anything & everything he touches. A grifter, conman, self-entitled whiny little bitch who happens to love Nazi loyalty while pledging to Israel. He puts his shoes on first. Then his pants. Then his underwear.
And everyone else in the regime. That's the problem with the 25th Amendment--it assumes that everyone in the cabinet isn't also complicit in keeping a grossly unqualified person in office.
Is there anything in there about a president declaring martial law at the slightest provocation - most likely by anti-protesters / agitators? Guys on his side get pardoned - ala' Jan 6th. People protesting peacefully - or not - get disappeared to El Salvador. He is just itching to do this.
There was another post / comment I saw on here about a week or so ago, that as far as I could tell, revealed his home address in San Francisco. I was this 🤏 close to reposting it.
Quite clear that Musk can't threaten to deport Grok to an El Salvadorean gulag, bribe it with a million dollar lottery win, scream "you haven't thanked me once" or berate it for not wearing a suit. Or, interestingly, he can't fire him. That is both satisfying, and not a little worrying...
You couldn’t have written a movie script about this shit & get a production company to film it, without the producers calling you a nut job & “to get real.” Yet here we are.
Right out of “Stranger in a Strange Land”.
Grok is the AI platform. Owned by musk. Musk LOVED this book. He is modeling his strategy 100% aligned with the story. Down to “Grok”.
Good God.
Problem is, this will have been trained on what we've all been posting and writing about Trump, which will dominate the training data as its digital. It is just precising what is happening as that is all it knows.
I know you're referencing US here, but that last para is exactly what's happened in UK over the 14 years until the last election. UK must remain extra vigilant to prevent the demise we're witnessing in USA.
Take comfort then that exactly the same foul billionaires, media owners and foreign powers that got trump back into the White House are actively undermining the UK now and have set their sights on getting some immoral, conscience free fascist into Downing Street as well. They won't stop at the US.
Yes, by all accounts, YES.
I’m by no token a genius, but it’s precisely what I was saying in the runup to the 2016 election, and I was getting “the look” and the compassionate smiles & nods from my best friends (!).
Why are even the intelligent humans so dumb?? Why???
hmmmm ...
Steps to a real DEMOCRACY
Exposure + Motivation + Coalition building + Revolution
Exposure: Tariffs - WTF https://www.keithalanhamilton.com?p=10821
tap/click image to read
Please, for the love of God, stop treating Grok and the like as though it was anything more than a spellchecker. It is not. It looks at the data it’s trained on and spits out words that are commonly used together in that data. It does not think or investigate or check anything. It’s useless!
Every time I talk to my brother (former Air Force, now Army chaplain), me reprimands me for assuming the military is mostly right-leaning. I hope he is correct.
All I can say is what it was like when I was in. At that time, I was a Republican. Cast my first vote for a Democrat for Al Gore and haven’t looked back. Hopefully many vets went the way I did.
Watch Frank Sinatra‘s old movie the Manchurian candidate.
It’s about a plot to overthrow the US government.
I think our government has been overthrown— but I think the blue states can still save themselves.
Not for nothing but I’m going to keep warning people how bad AI is at global economics. That shit can’t get my homework questions right. If I only trusted AI I would be failing. Thank god books and YouTube still exist.
I hear you. Not all students are like David Hogg. At my age, millennials are youth.
I'll always remember a high school exercise with managing a household budget to purchase food, rent, diapers etc. Now do a comparison of costs between Jan 20 versus today with 20% +/- tariffs. This is their future.
I mean yeah, this has clearly been the plan since the beginning. While they each sucked in their own right, at least the cabinet of the first Trump admin were largely actually qualified on paper for their positions, and had the knowhow and ability to curtail Trump's worst impulses.
The U.S. has resilient (though imperfect) institutions, a free press, and an active civil society. If enough officials, journalists, and citizens resist, even a cunning leader could be exposed and checked—but only if defenders of democracy act decisively.
I think we’re starting to see strong resistant citizens…journalists are hit & miss (FoksNews is still propaganda, Maddow is excellent)…but we’ve been sorely lacking in elected officials willing to stand up against Krasnov.
You’re absolutely right!
I’m reluctant to use the term F-xNews for that reason, but we still need to talk shit about them. I’m experimenting with “FoksNews” for now.
The illiterate and under a 6th grade education have no clue what this means or what they have done by voting for this disgusting, demented, sick, corrupt, evil man.
Well, I only have a high school education, but I don't need more to understand what's going on, and have always been a Democrat. In this situation, common sense and critical thinking skills surpasses a college degree.
True. Then there are those who knew what they were doing by voting for him. Willfully ignorant, racist, hateful fools who deserve to be shunned the rest of their lives.
I think people are missing the big danger, and economists are not explaining it to avg people. Prices up, yes. That's short term. But it's Trump's trade theory. Foreign trade deficits fund capital account surpluses, which up until now ended up in the US funding its financial and industrial growth.
As even the Heritage Foundation economist says, America imports foreign goods and exports financial investment in America.
Even Canada's capital investment in the US is in the trillions. If those entities stop or divert investment to, say Europe, those new US factories aren't getting built.
No more hedging bets — FA. We the People will not stand by > #DONothing and watch the constitutional Republic —
OUR Lives • OUR Rights • OUR Collective Future #Destroyed
When
Life,
Liberty,The Pursuit of Happiness”
The Constitutional Republic
#Everything is at stake.
Except it isn’t exactly subtle. It’s like taking each one of those actions, amplifying them 100 fold (or more) and delivering them on the front of an 80 wagon runaway train.
That's why we need to take advantage of the stupidity. Hold them accountable! Trump is very annoyed that Signalgate hasn't gone away. I feel like it's all we've got until midterms.
Time for all thinking people to take to the streets for as long as it takes to end this regime. Impeach all Republicans. And imprisoned those who are repeatedly breaking laws.
I asked ChatGPT pretty much the same question along with ‘Is this what Trump is doing now’ and then motivations- ‘is he an idiot, under Russian influence, narcissist lashing out or something else? The response was ..interesting.
Now ask it if a president wanted to get rich by yanking the stock market up and down repeatedly to sell high and buy low, what would he do?
Answer: a never ending cycle of announcing new tariffs and canceling them, after gutting the FTC. Watch him cancel these tariffs soon, then announce them again.
They've been engaging in blatant stock manipulation since Day One, but without a functioning SEC no one will ever be punished for it. Everyone else gets punished instead.
This is incredible, how it describes exactly what is happening at this moment. It's also very alarming and scary seeing the consequences of trump's action unfold.
Why is he deliberately destroying the country, though? Is he REALLY a russian asset or is it just for self-enrichment?
The playbook is the same, this isn’t rocket science. These are established ways to undermine a nation, the same steps our military and intelligence agencies use to undermine other countries.
And what does AI prove?
That it is taking all the data from the WWW, not the Internet as that is actually the backbone on which the WWW runs. The social media platforms everyone uses are taking your posts and feeding them to AI, so the outcome is reflecting back to you your own views.
The truth is starting to seep out towards the deniers and large swath of eyes wide-closed, but it will likely take more time before widely acknowledged and insurmountable damage the impact.
Except for a few of the adjectives and adverbs, like "subtle" actions and "quietly" tanking the economy, it just sounds like a summary of the last 2+ months in the US.
Do you think this is how donnie and leon figure this out? Pretty sure that’s how they decided what tariffs each country should have, without AI, would they have any policy at all?
Trumps goal with deporting,DOGE, purging safeguards against despotism and tariffs is enough protest and riots to declare martial law. Narcissist have zero empathy, like a reptile, pure self interest.
For 45yrs an element in the GOP used propaganda, Wall St power and religion to move us toward corporate control and a dictator. Putin got Trump to speed it up.
The main difference between Trump and past rising dictators is control by a foreign enemy. Putin got Trump to turn the world against us, wreck economy and gov . No matter how the right polishes the Turd Reich it will always be a lawn battery
There is one problem with this theory - the FOF isn't doing anything subtly. Anyone with a working brain and eyes can see what he is doing. Most just can't understand why.
I’m gonna tell you fascists
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax & Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Guthrie
JFC. I just asked grok your exact question and the rest of the answer is equally accurate and terrifying. Maybe someone should tell Elon his AI is wise to him.
Intentional and complete destruction of the United States is the goal of the squatters inside the Oval Office. I've said that many times before. But I'm afraid most other Americans are still not aware what's happening.
I guarantee trump has never visited our national parks. He has no ability to derive joy from nature or empathy for maintaining it for others. If he does not live there, it might as well not exist. He will clear cut it without giving it a second of thought.
You are right. He will tout his actions by saying he is the greatest environmentalist, preventing forest fires. After all, those woke West Coast folks refuse to rake their forests!
(Irony here)
Unlike the human mind, AI is impervious to "Amygdala hijack" and "confusion technique" and most other mental manipulation techniques used by Trump to deceive his base.
I'm inclined to believe this isn't too far removed from what we're seeing IRL. We see our democracy being truly dismantled, we see images of veterans/fed employees being fired, crazy tariffs without a plan, total teardown of agencies, we feel desperate to fix it.
12 points (?) all achieved within 3 months.
I made a paid comment to Mary Trump asking if this is intentional instead of ignorance and if Donni-boi might end up a RU citizen. She said no way. 2 months later, I think I might reword and ask again
You forgot:
1) Creating social instability by shifting massive amounts of wealth from the middle class to the Uber rich
&
2) Creating an oligarchy by removing power from the people by manipulating the electoral system (eg Russia)
&
3) Enabling the Uber rich to takeover all the levers of govt power
The answer Grok gave pretty much took historical data about how other dictators accomplished what Trump set out to do. Looking at Pol Pot, Muammar Gaddafi, Kim Il Sung and the republican role model Adolf Hitler.
When we forget history, we allow monsters like Trump and the above to thrive.
Google and Meta said similar, with a disclaimer that it was totally a general theoretical answer that in no way references any real event and it could never ever possibly happen because the US has such a great system of checks and balances. 🙄
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Echter: 85+ % van menselijke handelingen is emotioneel gedreven.
The conversation ends with the exchange shown in the image below.
Frightening
And I expect you'd get the same answer if you asked about the 2026 elections.
A dictator who knows their party will lose can't afford a "free & fair" election.
The bad new is the aforesaid, Trump's Admin (including the Attorney General) & MAGA Republicans in Congress are all corrupt. So, no one is investigating!
@gregpalast.bsky.social is a documented source for this and past election fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDWwLDejg8Y
We need to move faster than a speeding fascist.
Except that last point. That last point was chilling.
We will never have another election.
🤷♂️
This entire thread is the scariest thread I've ever read on Bluesky or Twitter.
We're all screwed.
Everyone with one eye open knows all of this to be true, but I guess it's nice that Skynet agrees.
We're kinda fucked.
Stay strong, and we will endure eventually.
I bet his answer changes.
https://bsky.app/profile/indivisible.org/post/3llwmmkvzhk25
The adversary is not constrained by legality or non-violence.
I ran something like this thru https://Duck.ai. It offered me a choice of lubricants.😒
Protesting sounds good to me. https://handsoff2025.com/ 🗽
https://youtu.be/sgHHRVH0NFo?si=vttohGUIIdLfG2Du
"under the constraints of legality and non-violence"
This is the exact problem. The Nazis are not constrained by law. We need enforcers or the law is meaningless.
The plan can't be to "wait it out" with protests, 🍊 will soon start a war.
When this ALREADY DISQUALIFIED insurectionist comforter government is so ILLEGAL, it's ENFORCING 14_3's banned penalty not a revolt!
But it’s nice to get confirmation
Now, on your latest segment on: How AI took over the World.
🚬😎
@kaine.senate.gov @aoc.bsky.social @governorwalz.mn.gov
Either Grok is totally incompetent, or Trump is doing everything artificial intelligence can think of to destroy the country.
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/artificial%20intelligence%20r%5B15424923%5D.pdf
May this regime's demise be swift and certain.
There is literally nothing "new" in there...
Guess he's not listening to it.
#Deathby1000cuts
/Sarcasm.
Grok is the AI platform. Owned by musk. Musk LOVED this book. He is modeling his strategy 100% aligned with the story. Down to “Grok”.
Good God.
See my posts. The answer is eerily familiar to what’s going on in America right now.
I’m by no token a genius, but it’s precisely what I was saying in the runup to the 2016 election, and I was getting “the look” and the compassionate smiles & nods from my best friends (!).
Why are even the intelligent humans so dumb?? Why???
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisjustice01.bsky.social/post/3lc6q5i3voc2m
Steps to a real DEMOCRACY
Exposure + Motivation + Coalition building + Revolution
Exposure: Tariffs - WTF https://www.keithalanhamilton.com?p=10821
tap/click image to read
And the only way to stop him is revolution.
That can be peaceful or violent. It will be Trumps choice to make
I believe there will be an uprising after martial law.
I believe our military and guard units will save us from this King.
Grok was trained on massive Twitter data.
It’s about a plot to overthrow the US government.
I think our government has been overthrown— but I think the blue states can still save themselves.
#DestroyX
I'll always remember a high school exercise with managing a household budget to purchase food, rent, diapers etc. Now do a comparison of costs between Jan 20 versus today with 20% +/- tariffs. This is their future.
tomatoes, tomahtoes
I think we’re all trying to avoid violence which is becoming strongly unavoidable.
I’m reluctant to use the term F-xNews for that reason, but we still need to talk shit about them. I’m experimenting with “FoksNews” for now.
Is doing!
The illiterate and under a 6th grade education have no clue what this means or what they have done by voting for this disgusting, demented, sick, corrupt, evil man.
Even Canada's capital investment in the US is in the trillions. If those entities stop or divert investment to, say Europe, those new US factories aren't getting built.
This is why it's okay for America to elect normal people, or smart people, but for the love of all that is holy stop electing imbeciles.
Alternatively, how to dispose them.
Let congressional Republicans decide which one is preferable.
https://bsky.app/profile/dstowe1.bsky.social/post/3lm2xvewqwk2l
“Hands Off” protest #today
a solid #WallOfRed
Google “ Hands Off protest near me” to find the protest near you.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2620785/hands-off-map.webp?w=450&f=6329e35f88af98d175edf97deec7acd5
OUR Lives • OUR Rights • OUR Collective Future #Destroyed
When
Life,
Liberty,The Pursuit of Happiness”
The Constitutional Republic
#Everything is at stake.
https://youtu.be/uWw6dvyUtsk?si=_BO9nCo2F6SCuyzf
Hispanics
...................the good times
And people have been writing about these predictions continually since the 2016 election cycle, so it has a lot of data to go on
Answer: a never ending cycle of announcing new tariffs and canceling them, after gutting the FTC. Watch him cancel these tariffs soon, then announce them again.
Why is he deliberately destroying the country, though? Is he REALLY a russian asset or is it just for self-enrichment?
That it is taking all the data from the WWW, not the Internet as that is actually the backbone on which the WWW runs. The social media platforms everyone uses are taking your posts and feeding them to AI, so the outcome is reflecting back to you your own views.
This is how Russia attacks America -- from the inside -- thereby avoiding Article 5 engagement with NATO.
Comrade Krasnov is a Russian asset.
(f)elon Musk is a willing accomplice.
It is not a 'policy' -- potus47 + doge is an act of war.
Ignore the words -- look at the <
This one line really stuck out:
“He’s not hiding; he’s performing.”
Yes. He certainly is.
The why is Putin.
You may be surprised
The people in this world
Are getting organized
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Race hatred cannot stop us
This one thing we know
Your poll tax & Jim Crow
And greed has got to go
You’re bound to lose
You fascists bound to lose
Guthrie
Sabotage.
If I wasn't watching it in real time I wouldn't believe it.
Nothing
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/climate-lab/more-details-surface-in-trump-administration-plan-to-cut-national-forests/
(Irony here)
I mean I used GPT not grok.
https://youtu.be/rgXSz4CdaUA?si=Msn9NMVcv818Azfo
They really are good at learning! 💀
But we are all freaking each other out right now. Go to sleep you sons of bitches!!
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/7/2295575/-Yes-Brainwashing-Can-be-Done-Online-Really
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/1/29/2220336/-Trump-and-Republican-Psychological-Warfare-You-can-t-fight-it-if-you-don-t-understand-it
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/19/2194115/-Journey-into-psyops-Are-we-in-one
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/7/2295575/-Yes-Brainwashing-Can-be-Done-Online-Really
I made a paid comment to Mary Trump asking if this is intentional instead of ignorance and if Donni-boi might end up a RU citizen. She said no way. 2 months later, I think I might reword and ask again
1) Creating social instability by shifting massive amounts of wealth from the middle class to the Uber rich
&
2) Creating an oligarchy by removing power from the people by manipulating the electoral system (eg Russia)
&
3) Enabling the Uber rich to takeover all the levers of govt power
Making the general population as ill as possible by ending medical research and creating mistrust of vaccines and proven medical treatments.
Creating food insecurity by removing government oversight designed to keep the food supply safe to consume.
When we forget history, we allow monsters like Trump and the above to thrive.