Everyone wants to help with the money of sin, they earn money by sweating their bodies, that money will never be spent in an unjust way. The government and the state have no problem with the government using money to kill people,
The UK could try and not start any wars and apologise to countries it pissed off like its former colonies. Maybe then we would not have so many enemies.
Sure. Let’s send a message to a violent dictator who invaded a European country and has killed thousands of innocent people that we’re happy to roll over and let him have his way.
You don't care about child poverty, you care about appeasing Russia.
I too want to keep the social contract in place, which means tax the rich.
Two birds with one stone, fund the military and kill all the "Elon Musk" in Europe as well.
You don't want that.
I have never once indicated that we should appease Russia. I'm just stating that if we can find money for the military then the Government should stop lying about how there is "no money left" for things like ending the two child benefit cap.
And we still fall behind other major countries.
If we had funded our NHS at the same rate as France or Germany per capita (2010-2019), we'd be spending an extra £40bn or £73bn respectively a year.
I'm all for helping the Ukrainians defend themselves, but not if we have to starve British families to do it. The point of this post isn't that we shouldn't help others, but that if we are helping others it proves we have the money to help our own, and that we should have been doing so all along.
Agree we hv big issue of inequality. But it can’t be an either/or. Appeasing bullies never works. Supposing Putin starts lobbing missiles at us? Good reason ppl say defence is the first duty of government.
Zarah he just couldn’t wait now he can have his Blair / Thatcher moment. He’s a 1st class hypocrite as aids Israel every day whilst ready to waste lives and money in Ukraine.
Utter crap. Starmer is proposing to provide troops to ensure Ukraine's security post conflict. This would provide forward defence for Europe and the UK. Of course if the Russian scum invade again they might have to kill some of them. Presumably you would prefer it if Russia won?
Putting Ukraine aside,if the government decides we need to spend more on defence because of USA diffidence,then those who benefit most financially from a stable country/economy should pay more. Labour has too long shied away from taxing those with the broadest shoulders who avoid paying tax
You can’t make it up. An island nation. No empire. (Not ours) surrounded by allies. Demonising people on welfare. Austerity, cuts. Certainly won’t be taxing the rich. And without hesitation defence spending gets raised. That’s why I voted Green. ‘Defence’ like those ridiculous aircraft carriers
I'm with George on this, eorge Monbiot @georgemonbiot.bsky.social
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The great stitch-up begins in Riyadh today, as the US government seeks to hand eastern Ukraine, bound and gagged, to Putin. This, as Trump knows and wants, will
I'm not happy about increasing the defence spending, could mean cuts to public services to pay for it, but someone has to stop Putin, because in the long run, cost more, meaning lives with his expansionist campaign, thank Trump for that
You aren't interested in helping people, if you were you'd support the military procurement AND taxing the rich to fund it. What you want is to give Ukraine (and parts of Europe) to Russia in a silver platter.
Worth learning some about past ww2 Zarah ... looks like you fan of little cosy island britain
Had britain france armed self b4 ww2 .. ww2 wouldnt happen perhaps. But do you care ...
You mean his record as a trainee pilot in Africa who didn't finish his probation before the war was over? Not his fault as he was very young, and I think he volunteered which was admirable, but not sure that was a great predictor of his later views.
Do you think the UK should be trying to help people in Ukraine? Is there a better way to help them than helping to deter future attacks and ensure peace should a ceasefire be agreed?
Absolutely. The only problem is that war fucks us all regardless. There won't be a social care service if we end up in a European land war. If we don't defend ourselves, there'll be no one to help.
Shafting Ukraine with that deal Trump, all about resources and deals and not protecting our way of life, greedy bastard should be protecting its allies, not giving in to a war merchant like Putin
And this is me posting "wild comment from a UK resident, not part of any government, I speak with no authority on this, just a thought that occurred to me.
Keir Starmer has mooted sending troops, soldiers get paid, Ukraine pays it's soldiers money, Ukraine might pay UK on kind, we could help each other out.
Trump should pay for it as well, he is screwing Ukraine and putting the UK to pay for it with cuts to public services, or get the very rich living here to pay more, instead of the poor and sick
Agree, and can Keir and Labour show a bit of grit, some would say for the first time since taking office, and just come out and say it's a different world from when manifesto written we are going to find this by the following tax increases (not austerity measures)
How many European democracies would it take a bloodthirsty imperialist dictator to invade before you would support mutual defence by the UK democracy of another democracy Zarah ?
that if the government wants to spend £4.5 billion involving us in a war they probably shouldn’t be justifying murdering disabled ppl as a necessary cost cutting exercise.
Multi-Millionaires aren't even taxed 1% on wealth! (not income) The problem isn't migrants, it's wealth hoarders. They can't take houses and land and fly off, so write to Rachel Reeves for a Wealth Tax for assets above £10M! 💷
It's pretty brave of him to suit up and go out there first. He is actually going to be a soldier isn't he? He's not just dressing up as a cynical photo op?
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Rejoin EU?
Stop being a tool?
But successive neoliberal Governments only give funds to the Bombs.
I too want to keep the social contract in place, which means tax the rich.
Two birds with one stone, fund the military and kill all the "Elon Musk" in Europe as well.
You don't want that.
If we had funded our NHS at the same rate as France or Germany per capita (2010-2019), we'd be spending an extra £40bn or £73bn respectively a year.
And, of course, Coventry.
Do you support Ukraine in its battle with Russia or not?
*Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine.* Putin won't stop at Ukraine if we give in to him
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The great stitch-up begins in Riyadh today, as the US government seeks to hand eastern Ukraine, bound and gagged, to Putin. This, as Trump knows and wants, will
Had britain france armed self b4 ww2 .. ww2 wouldnt happen perhaps. But do you care ...
Absolutely two cheeks of the same arse the racists and xenophobes come out with every time we send aid abroad
Anyway thank you for your weird angry reply.
We're desperate for money I guess,
This comment I make is about the UK not Trump.
Keir Starmer has mooted sending troops, soldiers get paid, Ukraine pays it's soldiers money, Ukraine might pay UK on kind, we could help each other out.
I bet you'd get rid of the nuclear deterrent as well.
We were spending 6%+ of GDP for most of Tony Benn’s career.