it's been so long since i played a bioware game, was the dialogue always like this or is it just another case of post-marvel AAA games writing - ThreadSky

merrittk.com • 123 days ago

it's been so long since i played a bioware game, was the dialogue always like this or is it just another case of post-marvel AAA games writing

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schrodingersgyatt.bsky.social•123 days ago

This is nowhere near as cringy as forspoken, come on now

rambohigs.bsky.social•123 days ago

Ugh. I wanna play it but then I see things like this

kerouac666.bsky.social•123 days ago

The Whedonization of pop culture is going to take decades to work it's way out as we're now on the gen of creatives he inspired. I'm always curious what projects he's secretly working on but don't have his name on them for publicity reasons. Guy made studios billions so he's not in the wilderness.

jordanquiverns.bsky.social•123 days ago

Dear god…the Forespokening…

realgoshzilla.bsky.social•123 days ago

I think it’s called “getting bought by Electronic Arts”. It’s endemic and it’s terminal.

clflngthjnshrts.bsky.social•123 days ago

no it's GRIM

rotblossom.bsky.social•122 days ago

Nobody wants to say it but Alistair was talking like this CONSTANTLY in origins, so no it's not new

simongablelundmark.com•123 days ago

I mostly remember the blue space lady in mass effect apologizing that she wasn't having sex with me yet the second time I spoke to her

screadnareilige.bsky.social•123 days ago

The writing has been like that since at least DAII

nimrodtzarking.bsky.social•122 days ago

I love so many classic Bioware games, but this is in the DNA all the way back to OG Baldurs Gate.

I don't want to understand whatever complex of issues birthed the Iomen/Mission Vao/Kaylee Frye/Fred Burkle archetype but it suggests something deeper and sadder than Whedon's individual hangups.

basicchunnel.bsky.social•123 days ago

BioWare was the first developer to really grasp that a lot of people would show up for Whedon dialogue; DA:O had “stabbing is bad”, iirc. But yeah, the industry has caught up to them. Also they’re a simulacra bc a lot of old talent left, replaced by ppl they influenced

clflngthjnshrts.bsky.social•123 days ago

That's an understatement; the DA2-ME3 death march gutted the studio. 2011 Bioware is long dead.

lostscot.bsky.social•123 days ago

It's the Whedon singularity claiming another victim.

akodorokku.bsky.social•123 days ago

The dialogue of Veilguard has been noted by many to be particularly bad.

mattwalker.bsky.social•123 days ago

Andromeda was full of this. I am so tired of it, ha ha.

clflngthjnshrts.bsky.social•123 days ago

The environment art in that game was so good! Hope those guys are doing well. Shame about the rest.

honk.supply•123 days ago

I'd argue the whole game was great. Aside from glitches nothing was bad.

There was just a ton of post-ME3 fatigue in the community so getting them excited about any ME game was an uphill battle, and without a hyped community behind them Bioware struggle.

clflngthjnshrts.bsky.social•123 days ago

not only are you wrong, your last sentence doesn't even make sense

brendelbored.bsky.social•123 days ago

Sheppard: it’s time to stop the Reaper threat and find Saren Arterius

Wrex: uhhhh Sheppard

Sheppard: …Saren Arterius is right behind me isn’t he?

Tali: is this happening right now?

DLC character Clank from Ratchet and Clank: *raises eyebrows*

clango.ghost.boo•123 days ago

post-whedon dialogue, specifically

aut0hfocus.bsky.social•123 days ago

It's always been like this- even back in Origins there were similar moments

snaketm.bsky.social•123 days ago

Yeah honestly Bioware RPGs have always been like this, even the KOTOR games were very quippy.

captainfart.bsky.social•123 days ago

Somehow Solas returned

colinmish.bsky.social•122 days ago

this is maybe the worst I've seen and I think if you pick "oof" you should get punched and lose a lot of hp

rubeswoobs.bsky.social•123 days ago

Always kind of like this

rustyshackles.bsky.social•123 days ago

Dragon Age Of Ultron

screadnareilige.bsky.social•123 days ago

Brutal

bsakat.bsky.social•123 days ago

Bodied

itshard.bsky.social•123 days ago

Not many people had much good to say about the writing, even the people who liked the game.

wincenworks.bsky.social•123 days ago

It's always included characters with lines like this, and they've always specifically tried to blend in various types of characters so that someone finds a character to love, and one to hate.

logan.hater.club•123 days ago

Mass Effect for sure was always like this, especially 2, but I don’t have as firm a grasp on DA

theoryyytical.bsky.social•122 days ago

dragon age has long been my most "it would be so good if it were good" series, but coming to veilguard fresh off of rogue trader and an elden ring playthrough has been - rough

surely.bsky.social•123 days ago

its always been bad but its gotten more stale lol

rethbloodhand.bsky.social•123 days ago

there's always been some degree of it for sure (Alistair's "swooping is bad" personality comes to mind)

ringout.bsky.social•123 days ago

Thinking back, I think it probably started around the latter part of Mass Effect 2's release.

barnghoul.bsky.social•123 days ago

I played the other DA games before I realized I wasn’t straight, and for a while I thought “maybe I didn’t like the approach to same sex romances in II and Inquisition because of internalized homophobia”

But, no, it was just BioWare.

itsherby.bsky.social•123 days ago

I’ve literally heard the line “…almost too quiet” twice. But I like hitting things with an axe

spasmbot.com•123 days ago

a little too raph

https://youtu.be/_7P1z28mCwI?feature=shared

itshard.bsky.social•123 days ago

A joke I was born into that I will never forget my whole life.

roryblank.bsky.social•123 days ago

How do we make this stop happening? Jail??

rawrmom.bsky.social•123 days ago

Stop needing every release to break even on an absurd budget so that writers aren't under pressure to take safer bets like replicating the current cultural moment.

dconquist.bsky.social•123 days ago

there are a lot of things to like about hideka miyazaki's games but one thing I appreciate more and more is that dialogue in those games just went in a completely different direction to what became the lingua franca here

bagfumbler.bsky.social•123 days ago

god, yes
Give me cryptic musings from forlorn derelicts all day over Whedonesque quippy garbage any day.

cainhurst94.bsky.social•122 days ago

tbf I dislike both styles (the souls laugh or being cryptic for the heck of it is kinda cringe in itself now). I think ND and Larian are the only two teams that have decent writers who write good human sounding dialogue.

kylegaddo.bsky.social•123 days ago

a little from column a and a little from column b

overluk.bsky.social•122 days ago

it's always been there

honk.supply•123 days ago

I remember KotOR having a touch of it but back then it was part of the charm. It was fun.
Now even the slightest hint of that style makes it sound like the Predator echoing Avengers.

dqspider.bsky.social•123 days ago

The Enquipification

muttfangs.bsky.social•123 days ago

'well THAT just happened!' *clown honk noise followed by a WOMP WOMMMMP sfx*

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