What is the democratic response ? Trump sucks and is bad for the country. The Republican response to that ? We know. We don't care. We want what we want
That's what Dems need to solve
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The election was rigged. All seven swing states where Democrats were elected at state level just decided to make an exception and vote a clown for president? I don't think so. Musk bragged about how easy it would be to hack our electoral system.
How does one appeal to voters that would willingly sign away their rights and freedoms? Those are the battles to really win/lose elections, it seems. At least this one.
Some people understand when you tell them the stove is hot. Other need to touch it Before they get it. Problem is we're all going to get burned this time.
This country has had few painful periods over the last several decades. This one will be epic.
@mcuban.bsky.social to get to the underpinnings of this movement, Dems must thoroughly understand evangelical ideology. Talk/use people who have been in the cray-cray, and come out of it (deconstructed). If the Dems do not... they will never recover a foothold.
Hard to solve that Mark when local and regional news outlets are gaslighting their viewers with normalizing the Mango Mussolini’s evil words and actions. Or worse they don’t even cover them.
This is especially true in the South. I live outside of Nashville and all folks get are blurbs from Lee and Blackburn goose-stepping to the MAGAt cult karaoke.
Republicans are really good at politics. Democrats have sucked at it for a while. It's probably because they really don't have core principles and are kinda wandering aimlessly between centrist and right wing policies. Republicans are right outside of Nazi style, Christian Nationalism.
Democrats are in the pockets of corporations and rich people just like Republicans, often the same people but also different. In this way, both parties are the same.
Until all money is out of politics, the will of the people will never be legislated.
It is impossible to engage in civil debate on issues with Trump supporters. A lot of these people are my friends and families. When discussing issues that Trump supports and clearly against their views it's just a "so what, next" type of response. This is just mind boggling to confront.
The smartest take I’ve heard on MAGA/Trump is that they’re so frustrated with the status quo that they just wanna break things, and he says ‘I’ll break them for you’.
The Dems have to stop defending the status quo and craft their own narrative of how *they* would break stuff.
Yes. We show our bold progressive and ground breaking ideas to break the old stale gop conservative backward harmful and oligarchical mold, ones that will help and serve the people, hammering them home consistently. We already have the goods. Where is our MarComm guru?
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maybe if they had actually taken the billionaire cock out of their mouths long enough to fucking do something for us non-billionaires, they wouldn't have had to message anything.
Rs have undermined public education for 1/2 century, resulting in an increasingly ignorant society. So it's not just electeds. Their voters don't know and don't care.
We need more people to vote.
You have a huge soapbox, money and power. How about advocating for a national election day holiday?
I really hope you do. If my life depended on picking a solid candidate this is the guy. I also like Sheldon Whitehouse however Steven is on fire every single day.
Didnt Obama come out of nowhere and the end and just kill it all? lol so i think its goign to be a bit. I think its going to be Newsome though. We will see.. He's the only one with the balls to actually fight. Well, AOC, but she needs a few years lol
I'd get behind all 3, but i think its Gavin's time. I just hoper folks can get behind him. because its all about a win right now, not petty bullshit that people dont like. No one likes everyones view of everything. lol
In the meantime, Speaker Mike Johnson announced the creation of a select subcommittee to investigate events BEFORE and AFTER Jan. 6, 2021. But, they want us to MOVE ON from what actually happened ON January 6th. This is what madness looks like, people.
Mark would you spend money to organize protests of this - every human being needs to use the restroom. You spending money on a line of port-a-potties on some space outside a Texas government building should get national headlines. And it makes trans people who are human, look, y'know, human.
the only way it gets resolved is to GET RID OF CITIZEN'S UNTIED or LIMIT the campaign contributions the Oligarchs are able to make. BERNIE IS RIGHT !!!
This assumes we are dealing with politics as usual. IMO, this moment is more akin to Pre-WW2 … a total power grab. Waiting for the “inability to govern” isn’t going to work this time.
The people gave them the power and the people will give it back to the other party. If anyone really believed this was Nazi Germany they’d be leaving. Im not going anywhere.
Problem is hate is easy, look how Christianity raised after they cut out the love thy neighbor part and help others and replaced it with kill, imprison, or enslave anyone that doesn't follow my beliefs.
This just isn’t true. Dems and Harris specifically laid out a whole platform that would directly help people socially and economically. The media failed spectacularly at covering that stuff. Anyway, it was misogyny and racism in the end. White men who don’t like sharing power. That’s it.
That’s because major media is bought and manipulated by billionaires in trumps pocket. Unless you go searching for the real truth with independent media, you will see negative coverage regarding dems
Mark you are advocating taking the high road.... as if that has worked. It hasn't. The ones who took the lowest road, Trump, won. He won by constant attacks and lies on all his opponents. He won through insults, bullying, degrading. They are't gong to "positive message" themselves out of this one.
I disagree. He won by using net promoter scores. They’re horrible for business and wonderful for publicity. We repeat 9-15 times bad things and only 4-6 times the good things. So those horrible things on social media made him a brand they remembered at the polls. So sad.
I debate a lot of Trump fans and my takeaway is that the scaremongering lies worked. A big reasons many turned their back on Dems is that they bought into a lot of the MAGA lies and scaremongering. And they bought the fairy tale Trump sold.
I always advocate a point made in the world's second oldest constitution, the Norwegian one. We top rank on press freedom in Norway and we long had a very good debate environment IMHO. And big reason is that our constitution requires the government to ensure enlightened discourse. That is the law.
But we are getting screwed as well now as social media from the US is taking over Norwegian media reality as well. That media isn't built on the principles we used to build domestic media on which was based on plurality, diversity and adherence to ethical principles on journalism.
I am a Maryland resident who would really love to hear an actual plan that I can start working on. The answer can’t be if I give $ to all the dems who ask for it (from all over the country at the rate of at least a half dozen a day) somehow it will work magic. We raised a ton of money for Kamala.
The democrats won in 1992 by pivoting to republicans then offering few accomplishments, lots of fundraising, and always promising more “next time”. Even after 9 years of trump running/winning, the strategy remains “let him control the narrative and vision while we remain the empty alternative.”
Andrew Weisman just said on MSNBC: Pam Bondi is a problem because what she’s going to do will make the department less edgy and the country less safe. That’s what matters about her nomination.
The response should be: Love him or hate him. It doesn’t matter. The issue isn’t his character or his personality. It’s his complete deference to the wealthy and powerful at the cost of the well-being of everyone else.
If states voting for Trump represent only 38% of GDP, there has got to be some negotiation power in the 62% GDP states. It kinda seems like the solution here might be in the math … art of the deal?
For instance, how about a modern-day Boston tea party? All that are willing, give 100% of all federal taxes due to their state tax board. Make the feds attempt to extract that money from blue state coffers. Ransom!
I would enjoy a critical review of the idea that blue states have massive referendums votes on leaving the union and joining Canada. Such a population and GDP move would totally shift the playing field for both countries.
In this effort, can Cuban be to blue state governors vs. what Musk is to T?
What Cuban said is right - Reps are willing to burn it down. We can spend all our effort trying to put out fires (that are so easy to start), or we can fight fire with fire.
Even a very serious threat of this might get moderate Reps to rethink their values. And even if it doesn’t, we are launching a ship that can be ready to sail. I do feel we need decisive, aggressive, action. No more feckless whining!
We need, as democrats to revolutionize our approach. We’re not getting anywhere by “taking the higher ground” we only disenfranchise others. Grass roots and values with grit will be the only thing that saves us
I personally believe that Dems did a poor job of making the communication style meet them where they are. They have said they like Trump because he “talks like they do.”
I think Dems need to speak more simply and define things better. Not everyone has the skills to infer meaning from speech.
Mark, I keep asking what's the long game? Why are theses the plays they're going for? We won't understand if we stay trapped at the character judgment level. Who's benefiting from moves going unchallenged, as our attention is locked on distractions and our ability to reason is hijacked? Who?
I’m at the point where I can’t have any intelligent conversations with republicans anymore. The literally will die on the hill for him. They don’t care what he says or does. They think he’s their savior.
Exactly, I know taking the high road is the right road, but sometimes you have to bust a couple of knee caps along the way. So maybe we vote out some older scared Dems and get some senators and congresspeople who will fight just as dirty. That's what will stop the steamrolling. But I'm no expert.
The Dems might want to see how the upcoming Canadian election pans out before anything. Pollievre is essentially Temu Trump and if Carney wins the Liberal race, they might have a guy that can beat PP's rhetoric and petty insults.
Impossible. The Democratic brand name is destroyed. Only chance is to run Unaffiliated candidates who don't belong to a party. Otherwise the Fox News moronosphere just points and says, "Democrats bad".
Meanwhile the Unafilliated candidate can turn the tables.
The democratic response is for mass protests and for Fed workers & Trump loving company workers (and allies) to stick together re' co workers sacking & civil rights issues and walk out on the job asap to throw the regime into chaos 🤷♀️. Country can only work if we, the people allow it to.
I talked about how great democrats were and how great their plans were. I tried to get more people to do so, especially journalists but journalists said it wasn’t their job to do that for democrats but instead it was the democrats job. Which makes little sense to me.
Dems need to get out & talk to republicans where they can be reached. Get off mainstream media bc you can't reach them there. In person. At Church. At townhalls. Podcasts.
Kamala and Tim spoke repeatedly about specific policies to help Americans, including tax credits for first time home buyers and starting a new business, lowering prescription drug prices, allowing use of Medicare to help families take care of elderly parents at home. The media ignored these and more
Republicans, especially Trump lie shamelessly and promote propaganda and conspiracy theories with $billions for decades. Democrats generally tell the truth and stick to reality. Sympathetic billionaires won't spend $billions for decades. They will spend a few $million periodically for good causes.
🎯 & @sanders.senate.gov has been pounding one of the remedies incessantly for decades & the people STILL don't get it & by it I mean THIS: 🪞 What does this man have to do? SOME of these things are EASY & FREE!
I will NOT take your guns! I will take them from criminals! I will not tell you what to do! The only freedom comes from giving EVERYONE rights to say what they want.
12.) no more coorporate bailouts
13.) we cannot require insurance who can decline coverage and not pay. Health, home and more.
14.) wealth disparity and national debt will be the end of America
15.) people do not know how things work! Give education back to states? We have it!
8.) people have become complacent and decided they will deal with what comes instead of engaging in local politics.
9.) people feel powerless to make change
10.) cooperations rule, we need to stop lobbyists and stock trading. We know Dems do it too
11.) stop AIPAC funding
5.) psychology: people will sacrifice themselves to punish “cheaters” ie; people who steal like Medicare recipients who do not work.
6.) people are more afraid of socialism than capitalism
7.) the two party system always creates division
We have several problems.
1.) social media targeting.
2.) people’s view of white males being oppressed to others
3.) he gave them people to hate, and hate is very powerful.
4.) simple messaging, most Americans read below the 5th grade level.
For your first point this is why it’s important to create new platforms. TikTok is done, Shou sold out and it’s owned by Trump/Zuck/Musk. Bluesky is a start but until there’s a replacement for IG and TikTok then social media will continue to be manipulated
Dems + Mainstream media need to focus on grocery prices, taxes, fuel prices. A daily ticker. This is what he ran on let’s hold him accountable. There are MANY families struggling, they’re desperate & vulnerable. He took full advantage of them with his lies. My mother is one of them. It’s sad.
Tie every action to every Republican Senators and Congress. The Republican cop haters. The Republican Russia lovers. Remember when they called him Moscow Mitch? Dems need as much guts to brand the Republicans as gutless and complicit chickens who will sell out our shared Democracy for power.
Mark, talking to my gop-voting friends here in DFW, my husband included, none of them have a clue their taxes the laat 3 yrs were because of trump. Ignorance is the leading cause of this mess. Whomever screams the lie loudest...
Stop pushing delusional economic theory, weaponizing govt, war mongering, Marxist and socialist ideas, teaming up with corrupt media/tech & so on. People voted for Trump because you guys are infinitly worse both domestically and on foreign policy. Fix that!
Not disagreeing but I think a more accurate depiction is "Trump sucks and is bad for our country, so if you could just give us 10 more dollars..."
No more money until I hear an actual plan.
I want a plan.
I strongly disagree. Trump didn’t go out and talk about grocery prices, he attacked Biden. When you’re out-party, you need to attack the in-party, the election is a referendum on them
Back when, Plato said societies should be ruled by philosopher kings. He wasn’t talking about democracy, but I still think having a philosophy is part of running for president. If you ask yourself about the philosophic messages of presidential candidates, it’s clear some have them and some don’t.
Trump has a philosophic message. It’s divisive, but it’s there. Obama had a philosophic message. Biden 2020 had a philosophy of accountability and stability that was not born out, and in 2024 Dems had no philosophic message left.
But Biden actually did things to make people’s lives better. Lowering drug prices for seniors. Fixing infrastructure. Creating more jobs. The Dems talked ad nauseam about these. But MAGA could not see the forest for the trees of flaming bullshit that the GOP pounded into their heads.
And yet people are still struggling and what did Dems do on the campaign trail “oh the economy is SO strong” no one feels like that. It was stupid not to concede that the country is struggling. It was out of touch.
But it was getting stronger. I read an article about Ohioans (my state) in a depressed area who said Dems cared more about LGBTQ people than they did about workers, all politicians were corrupt and at least Trump was honest about it. How do you change that logic?
But that was a lie. How do dems do what Trump did without the blatant lies? Are dems supposed to just tell ppl what they want to hear even if it’s not even possible? I don’t want the Trump equivalent on the left, but it sounds that’s what you’re saying we need.
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Egg .50 a carton not
lmao.
The voters already new prices weren't coming down. They just hate Democrats.
And Dems aren't changing so we lose.
This is how it’s worked since time immemorial and we’re not going to change it now. That’s especially true in this age of anti-incumbent fervor. The economic messages fall flat and can’t go viral because they’re low-wattage, outrage is high-wattage
If outrage was going to work it would've worked the first day he introduced the muslim ban or after Jan 6. Imo over the next 4 years there needs to be grassroots efforts to educate your local community and keep them informed while democrats prioritize highlighting wealth inequality and corporatism
Also, people’s opinions can change - a lot more people voted for Obama the first time, a lot more people voted for Biden in 2020 than would have in 2024. Bush entered 2004 popular and left in 2007 dragging down his entire party. People hate the sense that a leader is destabilizing and that’s Trump
yes but right now the algorithms are OWNED by people who kissed the ring. progressive politics are almost always hidden by algorithms because at the end of the day, they're bad for business!
For the moment most of the people ingesting these lies know they are lies and see it as a 'truth they prefer'. Its been normalized along with all the other crap aspects of the culture
But its just bad faith, its not that special and fact checking won't fix it
I agree with that - I think you’re a lot more likely to go viral with outrage and resistance than with yet another talk about the price of eggs. Frankly what motivates people to watch, click, and share is fear, anger, revulsion. That’s fundamental to us and isn’t going to change.
are you, or have you ever considered the asymmetry in what goes viral from each camp? our (democrats) virality isn't going to be medicare for all or more housing or better standards of living. it's going to be t*lor l*renz barking about mask mandates and open borders! you think we win that fight?
This is how the right took over social media - they freely pushed whatever was getting people animated. And look at what animates people against the GOP: the fear of Trump, the scandals, the abuses. Definitely not kitchen-table policy
You keep talking like there's anything anyone can do about it now. By the time the mid-terms roll around the US won't be a functioning democracy anymore and the election results, whatever they are, won't matter. That is, of course, assuming you even have elections anymore, Potemkin or otherwise.
Yeah that's one of the worst responses I've seen from Mark. I don't see where's he going - "Lie your ass of like other guy and forget about the Constitution?"
I watched a Trump rally on tv for kicks at the peak of "Trump has dementia too!" hype. I was shocked at the disciplined messaging of "no tax on tips" and "no tax on overtime," plus a fake rule of law message ("back the blue," "no criminal invasion"). By contrast "Opportunity Society" was v weak tea.
IMO, Democratic officials need to not publicize (TV, print, social media) how they feel about Trump and his orders but do it in privacy with other dems and take actions as needed.
Trump and RW relish in being in the limelight. If we take that away, we take away ammunition from them and their base
Seems nobody wants to admit that 77M fellow Americans preferred a known felon and seditionist over an educated highly qualified black woman. It was racism.
Policy statements or “connecting” to the Fox viewers was/is literally whitewashing the issue
I agree with the media complex….its all driven by right wingers now! Dems need to buy media juggernauts but even then you still have to appeal to the people on topics of news.
Solving is a conundrum. As long as we message that it is US vs THEM, it will never get better. Messaging that it is WE against corruption and oligarchs dismantling our country and economy, then maybe there is a chance of uniting and reclaiming.
So help please. Stop complaining. This is the future of our country. We have Trump saying maybe he will have President Biden arrested ( insane!). We have Musk doing the Nazi salute ( like Father, like son). HELP. The man is INSANE!
I really dislike the dem approach of sharing shocking news.
"Can you believe he did THIS now?"
Yes.
I am no longer shocked or surprised.
Tell me what you are doing to stop it.
Trump won in 2016 on the anti-abortion issue. Dems can do the same by offering national health plan far better than ACA which has been stripped down. NOTHING will help people financially more than that. AI is supposed to cure disease + longer lives- but only the welloff can afford good care now.
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This country has had few painful periods over the last several decades. This one will be epic.
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Until all money is out of politics, the will of the people will never be legislated.
Do that, and mean it, and a lot of this crap solves itself.
The Dems have to stop defending the status quo and craft their own narrative of how *they* would break stuff.
Me, I’d pack the court with like 45 justices. Then I’d overturn corporate personhood.
Then abolish the electoral college, establish national ranked choice voting, and publicly financed campaigns.
And on the 7th day I’d rest.
Educated people with money vote Democrat, but Democrats have made minimal effort to improve education or raise minimum wage.
GOP only have lies, misinformation and racism/sexism.
Who is going to pick up produce for minimum wage?
We need more people to vote.
You have a huge soapbox, money and power. How about advocating for a national election day holiday?
I just wanna know who we need to start backing now....we got 4 years and no candidates yet.
We have very real issues with things Trump's trying to do RIGHT NOW. That's where our focus must be (for the time being). (IMHO) 💙
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wn92KHUg4w
I could even get behind AOC and Buttigeig honestly too.
He understands the assignment. mark
In this effort, can Cuban be to blue state governors vs. what Musk is to T?
I think Dems need to speak more simply and define things better. Not everyone has the skills to infer meaning from speech.
FYI.
The civilized world sees now the USians as nazis.
Deal with it.
You are Nazis until you are not.
World is watching.
Meanwhile the Unafilliated candidate can turn the tables.
Im not college educated.
Talking about democrats positively anywhere got you a mountain of negs and people generally just weren't willing.
17.) red states do not understand that you can have gun rights AND safety precautions.
There are more…
13.) we cannot require insurance who can decline coverage and not pay. Health, home and more.
14.) wealth disparity and national debt will be the end of America
15.) people do not know how things work! Give education back to states? We have it!
9.) people feel powerless to make change
10.) cooperations rule, we need to stop lobbyists and stock trading. We know Dems do it too
11.) stop AIPAC funding
6.) people are more afraid of socialism than capitalism
7.) the two party system always creates division
1.) social media targeting.
2.) people’s view of white males being oppressed to others
3.) he gave them people to hate, and hate is very powerful.
4.) simple messaging, most Americans read below the 5th grade level.
Stop pushing delusional economic theory, weaponizing govt, war mongering, Marxist and socialist ideas, teaming up with corrupt media/tech & so on. People voted for Trump because you guys are infinitly worse both domestically and on foreign policy. Fix that!
No more money until I hear an actual plan.
I want a plan.
It is American public suffering in total. And R's need to realize that Democratic failure is also their own losses.
This ship isn't going to sink in halves with just one party losing.
What new shit can possibly be said about trump that his voters will care about ? His voters think he is a bad person already.
You need something that voters can connect to that has nothing to do w trump
But if you want to reduce his impact , you create solutions, because none of his will accomplish what he said they would.
As people realize, they will be open to what makes their lives better
Has he hurt the people they hate? Yes
Has he actually improved their bottom line? No
Convince them to stay home next election
Egg .50 a carton not
lmao.
The voters already new prices weren't coming down. They just hate Democrats.
And Dems aren't changing so we lose.
Cautionary note: I think Will is talking here about positive economic messages not all economic messages.
For example, social media with the Biden "I did that" stickers on gas prices, and R's negative message on Biden economy, broke through big.
Jesus! THE REST OF US IN THE CHEAP SEATS HERE DON'T HAVE THE COIN THAT YOU & OTHER ELITES DO!
Us day to day peons can't do this alone.
For the moment most of the people ingesting these lies know they are lies and see it as a 'truth they prefer'. Its been normalized along with all the other crap aspects of the culture
But its just bad faith, its not that special and fact checking won't fix it
Trump and RW relish in being in the limelight. If we take that away, we take away ammunition from them and their base
Policy statements or “connecting” to the Fox viewers was/is literally whitewashing the issue
They forget we are all going to sink on the same ship.
Jokes on them.
"Can you believe he did THIS now?"
Yes.
I am no longer shocked or surprised.
Tell me what you are doing to stop it.