This is a negotiating tactic. He’s getting even more concessions from them. MMW TikTok will be X in a matter of months. Of course TikTok would bow down to an authoritarian government. It just did.
Dems give him the easiest layup in the world and he still fucks it up. If that is not emblematic of the US's overall politics, then I do not know what is.
He’s a destructively dumb, incompetent fool who wants to destroy the United States as an act of sadistic/murderous revenge more than anything else, and Dems should start taking advantage of that immediately/fucking ruthlessly!!!
It’s why he’s so bitter- all his life he’s been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and then blaming everyone else for it- that’s why everything he touches turns to shit
I wonder if he saw that a huge chunk of the userbase were not falling for the propaganda that was pushed on them when it "came back", so now it's worthless lol
US politics:
GOP: We wanna ban anklets.
Dems: That’s crazy!
Polls: Dems below 50%
Dems: After much deliberation, we agree to ban anklets.
GOP: We love anklets. Save anklets.
Dems: Ok. Anklet wearers love us anyway.
Election: Anklet wearers stay home. Dems get crushed.
GOP: Ban anklets.
To be honest, he doesn't need wins. He's president and doesn't care. He's just trying to use them to further control the media. It sounds like they're not agreeing to his tinpot dictator terms.
If the Democrats could only cease
offering up the same law-school types
from central casting, and nominate an athlete or reality-TV celebrity, we'd win
I love Kamala, but Reagan, Bush2 and Trump will collectively occupy the White House for 24 years - idiots win elections.
Where's the notification on tiktok showcasing this since they bent the knee immediately and slobbered all over his knob saying he was helping tiktok. Only fitting they do the same now
This headline is the jangling keys, stop helping them. They just got a completely subservient tik tok to juice trump in the algorithms and shadowban basically everything they don’t like, why would they get rid of it now??
But also this yo-yo effect he's trying to condition people to understand he can give tiktok but also take it away so kids the ring if you want it. But that's very rare case as I'm not sure trump is very lucid
I think this has been about control of the special-sauce algorithm TikTok has been using but does not own. During the shutdown, US TikTok was moved to different data centers and apparently switched to an ordinary suggestion algorithm similar to all the other services. (Also added MAGA censorship.)
He's probably going to try to run it or get some right-winger to buy it or whatever...They want to use it for their political goals --so this is probably a threat to TikTok to let them have control.
he wants tiktok to sell to american companies, tiktok doesn't want to do that and would rather shut down, that has always been the standoff and hasn't changed
I do want to point out in this thread that Bytedance only gets a small portion of its revenue from US operations, possibly less than 10%? Hard to tell. Counting the drop in operating expenses as well, it might not be that costly a play to shut TT down here until the government caves
Inasmuch as TikTok’s value lies in its algorithm, the logical thing to do would be to have a bunch of former TikTok engineers found a new social media startup with murky ownership in a country Trump likes and launch a new Definitely Not TikTok app there
No social media network's value lies in the code or the algorithm or the content. It's the user base. Gaining and holding critical mass in social is HARD af and generational. When one succeeds, it gets sticky and holds those users.
Sorry, I was trying to imply with “murky” that this would ultimately be Chinese owned and controlled, just with enough layers of abstraction and ambiguity that that fact would be effectively hidden
He’s said that, but acts like he simply wants control. If they censor their content to make him look good (which they’ve started), he may want them to keep operating as is.
They’re still banned tho, so he’ll have to find a way to unban them before apple & google put their app back in their stores.
This is the full quote: “"I may not or may do the deal. TikTok is worthless, worthless, if I don't approve it. I learned that from the people that own it. If I don't do the deal it's worth nothing, If I do the deal it's worth a trillion dollars.”
This is like that Malcolm in the Middle episode where Francis and the guy running the military school are playing pool but neither of them want to win so they keep scratching in increasingly impressive ways
I don’t think he will let the ban go through. I mean that would be a hell of a choice and I’m sure this blister is just about trying to get a bigger bribe out of them. But if he didn’t save it that would really be something…
My favorite past time from the first Trump term was trying to figure out who last spoke to and what they may have said in the conversation that leads to some Trump headline. For this one I'm assuming that he was told TikTok would be sold without the original algorithm.
I agree, but the deadline already came and Trump blinked. TikTok is holding all the cards now. If twitter was worth $40B, what’s TikTok, twice that, three times that?
You should watch the video on Newsweek for the actual quote because the headline doesn't actually tell the story. Trump's trying to make a deal. Not sure if it's because ByteDance doesn't want to sell to an American or what though. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tiktok-ban-worthless-2018076
I still say it would be HORRIBLE even solely from a financial perspective for Bytedance to actually sell TikTok. But we’ll just have to see I guess. It certainly wouldn’t the first or only disastrous financial decision that a massive corporation has
they don't want to (or can't) sell at any price. i'm certain there were potential buyers they declined over the past year. a new one which is (checks notes) the US Federal Govt ... is just an even worse buyer.
The stupid thing is that there is no current evidence that TikTok makes money or will ever make money.(Not suggesting the other social media outlets do, but TikTok seems to be a money furnace.
he is pissed bytedance will not sell to an american investor i am sure of it. i know bytedance did some algo changes to appease him but this is forsure them not wanting to sell
This has already been dismissed. its likely he will try to force a sale to one of the oracle goons but i do not think bytedance gives a shit, theyre already complying with the data protection regulations and the second round of them after the biden tt ban so its either staying as is or going. imo
The random Trump fuckups are why I don't believe in doomerism where they scream about how Kochs/Heritage/evangelicals have been strategizing quietly for years.
Life's not a movie where a villain's master plan comes into fruition perfectly. They face random realities, they can slip, you can strike.
The Dems had nothing to do with this. Trump banned it, Congress (majority GOP) banned it and SCOTUS upheld. Where are the Dems in this. You have been fooled like. So many.
Trump did not ban it. Dems did and Biden signed it. Stop spreading misinformation and being exactly like MAGA. Be better and expect better from our politicians
Trump tried to ban it in his first term by executive order, but the site being up until recently makes it obvious that he failed.
This law was passed by a Democrat-controlled Senate, was signed into law by Biden, and was unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court (including its three Democrats).
Did he, though? What would the temporary support of a few people on TikTok buy him 2 years from the midterms? We’re in a country where a good chunk of people blamed Dobbs and Trump’s COVID response on Biden. He’s probably trying to force a sale to Musk or is just being racist.
SCOTUS already said it has to be sold. And China won’t sell it with the algorithm. And no one wants to buy it without the algorithms for the price they want to sell it for. And many of the core users are pissed about TikTok’s new censorship of anything pro Progressive. I’m fine with it going away
Damn. They immediately tried going lips to sack for Trump and still could get screwed. Feels like there’s an important lesson in there somewhere that clearly not enough people are learning
This is just how he bargains/negotiates, if tik tok is good for him then he'll try and find an advantageous way to keep it alive. But I hope he and all around him screw up badly and it will be clear and evident who to blame - otherwise...
He’s not trying to score political points and did not fuck up.
He’s consolidating money, power and favors. Democrats helped him get the leverage he has over TikTok, and now he’s using it to apply pressure. If he wants to do a layup, or own a few libs, he can threaten their families on social media
i think that he thinks he's negotiating a better price by doing this. so when they finally take it over, he can say something like 'folks, i got the best deal on tiktok. everyone knows it. no gets a better deal then me'
he said TikTok needs to sell half its company to keep running I don’t think it’s “miss information” to say TikTok is possibly still getting shut down. Bytedance isn’t going to accept that!
The man has no concept of object permanence. Someone showed him a pro-Trump Tiktok video, and 'i got to save that!' Then someone showed him an anti-Trump video, 'I'm not going to save that.'
He’s not fucking up a layup. Read between the lines, the Chinese told him to fuck off, do he doesn’t get to own 50% and as such is no longer interested in “saving” it.
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Yeah... sadly.
GOP: We wanna ban anklets.
Dems: That’s crazy!
Polls: Dems below 50%
Dems: After much deliberation, we agree to ban anklets.
GOP: We love anklets. Save anklets.
Dems: Ok. Anklet wearers love us anyway.
Election: Anklet wearers stay home. Dems get crushed.
GOP: Ban anklets.
To be honest, he doesn't need wins. He's president and doesn't care. He's just trying to use them to further control the media. It sounds like they're not agreeing to his tinpot dictator terms.
If the Democrats could only cease
offering up the same law-school types
from central casting, and nominate an athlete or reality-TV celebrity, we'd win
I love Kamala, but Reagan, Bush2 and Trump will collectively occupy the White House for 24 years - idiots win elections.
They’re still banned tho, so he’ll have to find a way to unban them before apple & google put their app back in their stores.
Trump might be fishing for tribute.
Cause I'm 90% sure no one has a spine anymore.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tiktok-ban-worthless-2018076
That or he's begging Bytedance for more money.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/tiktok-awaits-trump-reprieve-as-china-signals-open-to-deal-614461
And he just made billions from his scamcoin too.
oof.
Life's not a movie where a villain's master plan comes into fruition perfectly. They face random realities, they can slip, you can strike.
This law was passed by a Democrat-controlled Senate, was signed into law by Biden, and was unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court (including its three Democrats).
"Trump urged the court to delay the ban’s Jan. 19 effective date to allow his administration...to 'pursue a negotiated resolution'..."
He'll do the same in Ukraine, declare it's Europe's problem and then keep the existing policies in place because changing them is work.
The immigration stuff he'll do enough to be cruel, but not enough to hurt donors.
Seriously, he's a con man, EVERYONE got conned. That anyone believed him is the funniest shit.
He’s consolidating money, power and favors. Democrats helped him get the leverage he has over TikTok, and now he’s using it to apply pressure. If he wants to do a layup, or own a few libs, he can threaten their families on social media
https://bsky.app/profile/livagar.bsky.social/post/3lgcfe3zeyc25
https://bsky.app/profile/thejcobb.bsky.social/post/3lbahknfn5s2d
These guys may be crude but they're not stupid. They understand the value in capturing a channel of communications.
47's MO