They’ve already made this scandal too big to fail with all the lies tied together, so I’m not expecting any admission of guilt anywhere at this point. Can’t just pin it all on a fall guy, even a top one.
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Comes down to a simple case of physicality.
All the judges in the world can find them guilty but if no one can or is willing to physically man-handle the guilty away from power - it is all for naught.
America has taught them they can get away with anything. Lying and cheating and never admitting a thing is how they got to be the regime. I don’t believe they even thought about a fall guy, because why should they need one?
A convicted felon with pardon power is in charge. Congress has waived their check and balances responsibilities.
There will be hearings and clips of politicians stating what should happen.
Trump may allow one sacrificial lamb but will null and void any further what should happen action.
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Especially when the truly top guy has been given immunity for everything he does within his official job. And it all goes back to Dear Leader pushing the Senate to confirm his nominations for these Cabinet posts.
Where there’s fire there’s more fire. They are too careless as a group to not have left a trail for other illegal security infractions - there’s more and someone is going to find it. They have too!
I think it's just as much that they are genuinely committed to the Trumpian tactic of literally never admitting fault under any circumstances. You can contradict each other and look like fools, but never, ever admit fault. That was the primary quality they were all vetted on
You watch.. the fall guy is going to be Jeffery Goldberg! The administration will try and make HIM the bad guy. That would be a travesty, but it wouldn't surprise me.
But they’ll try— Waltz will go down, as the lamb, and they hope that’ll be the end of it. We have to make sure that doesn’t happen. He’ll get his own show on Fox and milk this “hoax” for years.
Omg I have not thought about North in so long. I was a teenager then but my father was infuriated over that whole thing, it’s his contempt for North I remember most.
This is just an extension of Trump: refusing to acknowledge fault. His subordinates champion every Trump idiosyncrasy, including deniability. That's going to cause this issue to escalate and linger.
#democracyisdying
Despite my stark hashtag, I'm so happy today!!! "Nobody was texting war plans" my a**! Time to read these receipts... https://apple.news/AsfNHVJN3SFCwSLFfHK0DYQ
18 U.S. Code § 793(f) is a felony for anyone entrusted with information relating to national defense to allow that information to be removed from its proper place of custody through gross negligence.
In any other admin'n, this would be open by FBI NOW w/ Hegseth's name on it.
Congressional investigations must be held to hold every single participant to this messaging breach accountable. There are laws against betraying national security
This makes no sense. The guy who did it took responsibility. Said it's on him. They're investigating on how it happened in the first place and they're minimizing the problem and moving on. They never said it didn't happen. They only say the content has been mischaracterized.
DNI said there wasn’t classified information and there was. Turns it all into felonies including the perjury, regardless of whether Goldberg was on the thread. Info should not have left the SCIF - that’s on SecDef who did it. Felony.
That article is about a specific document that fall under a specific act that defines when and how it can be declassified. Last time I checked this signal thread had nothing to do with nuclear energy or weapons. So.... Try again.
Yeah, to me it looks and is bad. There is no doubt about it. But the person responsible is taking responsibility and they are investigating exactly why it happened. It's bad, but Democrats are acting like it's Watergate. That just doesn't make sense.
They are testing the waters with claims of "nothing classified was disclosed" - " it wasn't 'war' planning", "the signal system is defective", and attacking the owner and his wife. In what reality is this taking responsibility?
Passport to Vote required: The executive order borrows from the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, a Republican-backed bill. When they can’t pass a bill. It’s done with an illegal EO. One branch of government Now. Welcome to the New USA.
I mean, this is why you don't elect the guy that couldn't even admit he lost an election. He views admitting that his admin made a mistake as weakness. This is also why the current President needs to go one way or another by the end of the year (if not sooner).
You are spot on. Some entity, outside of the MAGA bowel movement, a journalist for example, will get blamed and some redneck in MTG’s god-forsaken district, will be told by Fox entertainment that print media is for liberal intellectuals and members of ANTIFA.
Biden if that don’t work Obama if that don’t work some low level staffer(any black people working there?)Is Hillary available? Oh I got it they’ll blame the sun got in there eyes,their suit was in the cleaners,a legion of Grandmothers protesting outside of SS offices Black Grandma’s oh the humanity
Even though it’s painfully obvious they are all careless with critical national security information that could get our troops killed, to say nothing of the general incompetence.
I was in the midst of writing a comment about whether their Gen Z supporters even get this reference beyond the talking point when I realized that the median voter of any age probably couldn’t tell you what actually happened.
That's interesting. The group that creates the most chaos (turbulence) is the one least likely to shoulder the blame. I bet they know that and are using it.
It’s much like North Korea. They send 3 generations of family to labor camp forever if one family member steps out of the cult line. Not that extreme, but definitely headed that direction.
Everyone on that chat (except Patriot Goldberg) is a criminal who committed multiple crimes. Maybe all resign today? But we need to investigate everyone. There were multiple chats. We are at the tip of an iceberg.
So Marco Rubio statement is the worst with in one or two sentences he lies, accuses, points the finger, blames Hegseth, congratulates the team and claims hey he did nothing wrong…sees there is an issue but nothing really bad happened…
Today it looked like they were willing to sacrifice whiskeyleaks Pete.Let’s not forget about the helicopter crash on his first couple of days.Then what appeared to be drinking during a press conference.Three strikes and you’re out! Gabbard should go also just because of her answers at the hearings!
These are women abusing, cheating alcoholics. As someone with family history AND dating abuse survival history. These MF will claim innocence as we put the shackles on. My ex sure did. Still did when he was released from jail. They get FULLY believe the lie to their core as a 'human'.
It's kinda sad in a way to see first hand. They believe their own lies to the point of TOTAL destruction of self or ANYONE near them. Like a blackhole. In this case I just hope it happens to the FEW!
I think that with this administration the whole point is to lie, and show that it doesn't matter who know. That Congress won't exercise what authority it has, that courts are too slow and they can get away with whatever they want to. The lie is the point. They believe they are beyond consequence.
You don't. However, you need a department of Justice willing to bring a criminal charge. And our department of Justice has been totally compromised. It's now operating in service of the president.
Criminal prosecution is a legal process. Impeachment is a political process. We're losing on both counts because Trump directly or indirectly controls both processes.
My initial comment was speaking directly to his supporters who seem to think that none of their people can be guilty unless they hear it directly as an admission from the source. I was talking to the GOP who refused to prosecute.
We have to expect they will never admit fault, so we have to focus on public opinion. The more they deny and act crazy, the greater the spotlight should be. The goal is to change the minds of US citizens.
Let’s review how much money has been spent developing the secure communications devices and protocols that were available to these people and ask why they weren’t used.
Yeah, it's the grandest level of lying now; plain to all...not a micrometer of wiggle and no sacrificial lamb because it's clear they're all culpable at an equal level.
Ty Dustin! It doesn't seem to matter either way... Let's f*ing get it in the archives, move on, (3 days?) because this is really good shit, and then focus on saving the destruction of our institutions, international commitments, Democracy, our country, and We the People!
Incompetence has to be questioned, the man risks American lives, Trump's friends must see this as being with the second devition team, always a moron to slow us down, you're fired buddy!
My guess is Trump will try to distract from it with some other insane decree or tweet, and Fox News will come up with a way to spin it or downplay its seriousness.
They've gone out of their way to smear the reporter, even as far as claiming he HACKED his way into the convo.
Calling him a liar, and sensationalist...
WTF, WHY do they hold onto his phone number then?
Does it even matter at this point? They could straight up say “what’re you gonna do about it” and Americans would collectively go “nothing” and then we continue as abnormal. Laws don’t matter anymore.
They'll go after the Atlantic and any law firms they hire to defend them, while doing something outrageously stupid to deflect attention - Like placing a tariff on any cars not made in the United States.
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All the judges in the world can find them guilty but if no one can or is willing to physically man-handle the guilty away from power - it is all for naught.
We're so distracted and hate-fill Big Brother would blush.
There will be hearings and clips of politicians stating what should happen.
Trump may allow one sacrificial lamb but will null and void any further what should happen action.
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Last I hear that was illegal. But they did twice for Trump in his first term.
I wish #America was in a strong enough position to Arrest and Prosecute such Traitorous Activities.
Moore's Law has been the Law Of The Land for some time now.
#USA Enemies HAD these Signal texts immediately.
But seriously, do Americans give a F about this?
Unfortunately, King Krasnov will not fire and calling this a witch hunt.
Maga are gonna try their hardest to distract.
Despite my stark hashtag, I'm so happy today!!! "Nobody was texting war plans" my a**! Time to read these receipts...
https://apple.news/AsfNHVJN3SFCwSLFfHK0DYQ
In any other admin'n, this would be open by FBI NOW w/ Hegseth's name on it.
This is not the kind of scandal that I think Democrats want it to be.
Prove it.
Passport to Vote required: The executive order borrows from the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, a Republican-backed bill. When they can’t pass a bill. It’s done with an illegal EO. One branch of government Now. Welcome to the New USA.
🎵 I’m gonna getcha getcha getcha
September 2015
No focus on the glue.
Nothing else matters.
They will be dropped like third period French and then the show will go on
Draw a line form the Lewis Powell memo to Project 2025 and work at internalizing the concept of sine-qua-non!
... or keep chasing squirrels.
Depressing.
President Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath about a blowjob.
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Something I believe became the rationale for the child separation policy.
And for the targeting of family members of people who oppose him.
Trumps admin will claim this was under his duties as a president, meaning they can't be charged
If that doesn't work, they'll just stall legally until no one cares.
2. Admit nothing and deny everything.
3. No matter what happens you claim victory and never admit defeat. You have to be willing to do anything to anyone.
Declare victory and move on.
Out!
A court ruling does nothing if we aren't out in the street demanding it be followed.
That’s how he got elected and that’s how he’ll govern.
Lies on top of lies right in your face. Seems to work.
Take note Dems
Waltz set up the #Signalgate chat.
Why did he already have Jeffrey Goldberg’s contact info?
Has Waltz been chatting on the down low with a journalist?
White House leaker!!
#FightBack #Rebel #BeLoud
What about national security?
What about the espionage act?
@5calls.org has made it so easy.
Everybody everyday everybody everyday everybody everyday
Call out your elected officials. @5calls.org they have made it so easy, just follow the script.
Calling him a liar, and sensationalist...
WTF, WHY do they hold onto his phone number then?