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Are they? Isn't dsa about the same size as then? Or do you mean "electeds"?
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No such thing as a protest where violence is unlikely to occur so long as cops are around. People need to be prepared for it, not given false promises of "non-violence"
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That's what ours was at my university last year, then we brought out tents and cops started body slamming people left and right and even pulled a knife on a student to cut a tent. There was zero violence, none whatsoever, aside from what cops did that day. No crime was even committed.
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Either we have to drastically lower the cost of living via lowering the standard of living to a more reasonable and equitable global baseline to reduce expected pay, start expecting to pay $45 for a t-shirt, or hope that there's always some poor country willing to build our $10 t-shirt sweatshops
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If "raise them up" worked all the way thru wouldn't we end up with unionized high-pay workers in a future "developed" Tanzania or something demanding the world pay for $45 tshirts all the same?
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If the equitable cost for a t-shirt is ~$45, then isn't our insistence on paying $10 for a t-shirt in the wealthy imperialist countries going to make working conditions like in China, or Bangladesh, or whatever comes next inevitable?
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I get not wanting kids to grow up into a dystopia, but at the same time this is surrendering the future to the children of fascists
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It's not a situation, it's a genocide, and the only people who can be legally responsible for a genocide are its perpetrators. "Your honor, they made me genocide them!" is not a defense
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Oh so it's not just Hamas it's "the Palestinians" now who are not only collectively guilty of what Hamas has done but also collectively responsible for their own genocide. Just unbelievable.
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They are important! But that's irrelevant to whether or not our governments should have committed genocide against the Palestinian population of Gaza. The hostage families themselves are begging for a deal, you people are just heartless
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That's irrelevant to whether or not our governments had a choice to commit genocide or not, there's always a choice!
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Look maybe if that communist didn't burn down the reichstag and put him in an impossible situation things would be better. They played right into his hand and now they're in camps. Sad! But maybe they shouldn't have started it
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I don't really see any way these can be read in a better light
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In fairness she seems to have apologized for both, but in scattershot and contradictory ways a day or two later so I'm not sure most have seen them
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Idk she also said that Jews have a moral obligation to abandon Judaism in light of what israel is doing, and that its especially worrying when trans people convert to Judaism because some of them might turn into zionists, which are blatantly antisemitic regardless of all the nonsense about atheism
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That's not an insult it's just a description of my place in a colonial society, idk what you're trying to get at with that, but all I'm saying is that denying rabbinic credentials or even someone's jewishness over political disagreements is a Trumpian tactic not unrelated to the Soros nonsense
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Incredibly ironic to deny a liberal rabbis credentials based on their political views under this particular post
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I don't get these people. Netanyahu is essentially a dictator and the government is run by Kahanists, but also somehow Palestinian citizens aren't systematically discriminated against and israel is a liberal democracy. They could even say it started with him but they just deny it, makes zero sense
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He's also a joke, he sent cops after student protesters like the rest of them. His cops groped student activists on his orders
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Disgusted to see liberals fawning over Wesleyan's Michael Roth as if he hasn't sent cops after student protesters, disciplined them for free speech, and refused to divest from Israel's genocide like the rest of them. His "resistance" is just a marketing gimmick
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He called the cops on student protesters like the other fascist universities did, and his cops assaulted students. He's part of the problem, a wolf in sheep's clothing
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Yet he won't divest from Israel's genocide, nice marketing gimmick tho
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Michael Roth sent cops after stusent activists and they groped a Jewish trans woman i know, it's a lie
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www.instagram.com/reel/DAJbFat...
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www.instagram.com/reel/DAJbFat...
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He sent the cops after his students all the same, he's lying
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Nah it's all bs, ask any wesleyan activist
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This is exactly what I'm talking about, you don't even know if I'm religious
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You're failing to grasp the history of these concepts
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You "borrow" it to criticize it and universalize it. Whether you're for or against it, it forms the basis of a core western atheist belief that Christianity is the model all religions follow, and that "religion" is a discrete cultural category in the first place
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Or even borrowing the concept of religion as a distinct category of culture, which for the most part is a western European Christian innovation that has then been imposed on the world thru colonialism. Judaism is one of those that doesn't see it as so distinct, maybe except for the old Reform mvmnt
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Better approach might be arguing that there's no such thing as religion as a meaningfully distinct category of human culture, and that "religion" (or "irreligion") will reflect the wider culture. This includes atheism arising in a Christian European context borrowing the Christian concept of faith
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Thats his hat where he keeps foreign currency to exchange
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They all supported the total destruction of Gaza
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Hitlerite
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He helped commit a genocide, what do you want us to call him?
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That is simply not how Judaism works in the real world, and something like 50% of Jews would have something to say to the contrary, given something like 50% of Jews are irrilegious/secular
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Because Judaism isn't Islam! It works differently! Please I'm trying to explain this to you nicely but it's frankly getting offensive
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That's just not how Judaism works, you're imposing the Christian concept of faith onto it. You're not helping anyone's cause by redefining Judaism in terms you can more easily understand
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Aside from using "Palestinian" as a dehumanizing brand labeling someone an enemy of the state, a smaller reason why what Trump is saying here is bad is that he's somehow given himself the authority to also brand people un-Jews worthy of persecution for breaking from state-approved Jewishness
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That doesn't mean Judaism is a "race" or mono-ethnic, but it has components more similar to ethnicity than to the Christian concept of faith, which you're incorrectly imposing on it. The vast majority of Jews have no "beleif" in the religion, they're still Jews
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Even within Jewish self-definitions, belief is pretty low on the list of things that are required for someone to be considered Jewish, and there are extremely limited circumstances where someone can cease to be Jewish. You're just plain wrong about this
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We can have our own in-house debates about what zionism, as a real-world movement defined by its effects, has meant for Jews, but there will always be a simultaneous debate about what it means for Palestinians, and either can oppose it as defined by its effects on them
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Ig this is really the crux of the issue. You think zionism is a patented idea Jews have exclusive rights to, I think zionism is a political movement imposing its vision on reality, and the effects of that imposition are the only thing that can actually define it
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You could say the same about any oppressive force or ideology in the world. Of course oppressive forces/ideologies are unconcerned with their victims, that doesn't mean their victims can't be against them
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If zionism includes imposing its vision on unrelated peoples (which it necessarily does) then those people's have every right to oppose zionism outright, not just its "effects". Zionism is nothing more than the sum of its real-world effects
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I would content that Palestinians at the very least have just as much insider knowledge on zionism as Jews, seeing as zionism impacts Jews and Palestinians both on world-defining national levels. It stopped being exclusively about Jewish survival when it left the coffee shops and papers
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Yes, there is a related in-house debate along the lines you laid out here, but that debate left the confines of the Jewish world the moment that zionists decided to use force to impose the vision of zionism onto innocent, uninvolved people. Anti-zionist can equally mean opposing that imposition
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I'm sorry but "anti-zionist" stopped being an exclusively in-house term the moment zionism as a force in the world started impacting people other than Jews in ways which might inspire them to be against it. This is really 101, like, Edward Said stuff