the mild, non-confrontational obama formula for inclusiveness was so intolerable to a substantial chunk of the country that they put a outer borough george wallace into the white house. like, what are we talking about here?
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Jonathan Chait
As I wrote repeatedly at the time, the Obama formula for inclusiveness was effective and morally right, and abandoning it, as Obama noted, was a mistake nymag.com/intelligence...
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it showed us that there's no way to do inclusion in a way that won't anger the racist segregationists
The US has always been racist, as has virtually every other country. Countries are generally organized around ethnic and/or religious boundaries. Is this still a surprise to people?
Moral arguments aren't worth the ten commandments they're etched on. They're the sauce we splash over our respective sides to congratulate ourselves God's on our side
With that abandonment, something LBJ saw coming, the country lost cohesion and settled into deeply partisan regional political warfare,
I don't care what Chait writes or says. It's essentially meaningless. Dems aren't going to win Kansas or Nebraska with policy arguments, and if you believe that as I do, Chait's irrelevant.
The problem isn't that there was inclusiveness or that it got too confrontational; it's that nepo babies with too much power are shitty citizens
In fact, their reaction tells us that it was right.
These white men hate dark people.
They hate women.
They hate LGBTQ+ people.
They hate poor people.
And they hate America and all it stands for.
There’s no magic secret reason for any of this.
They're fighting the tide, it's a loser over the longer run -- but how long will that be?
Joe Biden.
🙄
Now, he's simply taken Queens corruption and expanded it to an international scene.
not to mention the terminally-online pedo nazi terrorist stuff that started before he even entered office (c.f. https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/slain-neo-nazi-angry-over-obama-victory-reportedly-prepared-dirty-bomb-components/ )
My motto is "When they go low, curbstomp them—rhetorically"
That's the kind of messaging/strategy that wins instead of getting bulldozed by fascists.
👇Want to win? This is how👇 #BeRelentless
They’re beatable. Their bullshit can be exposed. I just have no idea how.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/briefing/university-diversity-programs.html
Seems like *everyone*, left and right, hated DEI as practiced.
So now we see the .001% totally screwed, and we coalesce around hate.
Sad
Hell, Democratic Socialist paradise Sweden took a HARD right turn when a handful of brown people showed up at their ports.
my white gen x male demographic was the worst of all
shameful
Sure, a lot of Americans will, but there are enough Americans who absolutely will not that it makes a difference electorally
In 2016, tons of racist-in-denial R voters wanted to convince themselves they weren't racist, because back then they still genuinely saw that as bad. >
The "simply being black = anti-white extremism" (SBB=AWE) view existed in 2016 but, I think, only among a small contingent of >
By contrast, what R*fo and connected propagandists have done since 2021, on the heels of George Floyd, is to turn SBB=AWE into a mainstream male R opinion—while simultaneously making a huge *misogynist* outreach to minority Gen Z men, >
When SBB=AWE first made itself visible as overt administration policy three weeks ago—with admin members blaming DEI for the first plane crash—its presence was still capable of surprising many. >
He rejected it. That’s the straight line for many. They’ll take WHATEVER alternative to multi-culturalism is offered.
We were at my sister's lesbian wedding, just after same sex marriage was legalized and the brides cried during a speech about how grateful they were and my maga uncle said:
"UGH I didn't know this was going to get so political!"
In my case, I'll say as a moderate, I'm considered a radical left lunatic with TDS by a large number of ignorant assholes.
But a rose...as they say.
Remember, the post-racial claim was promoted by the media. It certainly wasn't from Black and Brown ppl.
You have to wonder what they are talking about. And never forget that the subprime crisis was blamed by the right on minorities too.
It’s not a meritocracy they’re after, they want a return to white, male, Christian supremacy.
They’ll prop up people to help counter that goal, but we’ll see them all discarded at some point.
All because of idiots who can’t handle the very idea of a Black President.
I do not have the foggiest idea how you think you can appeal to those people AND acknowledge the humanity of black people.
You're black? Clearly an anti-white extremist.
I'm trans? Clearly trying to force my gender identity on them and force them to reconsider their own gender.
I think this all comes down to fear of "the Other," mixed with an inability to critically think.
BIPOC people, LGBTQ+ people, and/or women writing about issues that affect them? “Biased!”
Basic white dudes writing about the same issues? “Fair and unbiased”
Since Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act, resegregation has always been the goal of the GOP.
“Oh, if the country didn’t elect the first black president then white people wouldn’t be racist and propel Trump”.
Thinking black people need to be mindful of how white people will react to us simply existing is 50s shit.
I tried explaining this to someone on Fedi who insisted extreme right voters were just concerned about integration. His response: "ugh, identity politics."
Same BS.
they're unreconstructed colonizers
Perfection!
❤️
The Reich-Wing is the enemy of all that is Good, Honest, and Nice!
they didn't trust him because he's black, so they didn't trust his inclusiveness
and the *moment* hillary smirked on that stage, she confirmed their belief that it was all a lie
it could have worked if not for her
f-ck them.
We abandoned his vision of pragmatic liberalism. And now here we are.
From the MOMENT they said a F'n word about "FaNcY mUsTaRd" etc, we should of demanded a formal public apology for ignorant, racist, KKK inspired, UN-American behavior being displayed on TV like that.
It was a mistake to tolerate their intolerance.
It’s credulous pap
Thanks.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/03/other-peoples-pathologies/359841/
Coates writes to reinsert nuance to Chait's mischaracterization:
"The 'cultural norms' of my community also asserted that much of what my country believes about itself is a lie."
I'm naive & new, but the idea that if a certain people are just "respectful" enuf of their oppressors that they will be treated as equals EVENTUALLY...
One (I believe?) applies to women as well: know your place & we'll let you in.
It's sticky & gaslight-y. Gets in your head the way the logic of the abuser does: If you were ONLY BETTER they wouldn't have to treat you so bad. Your own flaws INVITE the abuse.
I think people were prepared for the shit tRump was going to put us through, and didn't see the Muskrat coming.
Had we known what was going to go down, would more of those 90 million swallowed their pride or gynophobia, and put Harris in?
Two things can be true:
1. Obama-era approach to race was more moderate than Biden-era approach.
2. There was racial backlash even under prior approach.
The relevant counterfactual is whether backlash to Biden is greater because it went further.
was responding to the suggestion that because there was backlash before, he is wrong about backlash. per my point, not true.
The real problem is that the dems have a very stupid habit of pandering primarily to the only demographic who hates everyone not like them instead of to the other 70% of the american population.
It has to be egg prices or anti-trans sentiment. Can’t be a mix even if exit polls say so.
And if one senator’s social intern can’t handle all that, invest. Or centralize and invest.
Wow