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Fair. I wouldn’t do either. was thinking of 2 unpopular trades one if Embiid is completely compromised and you want to stay competitive, and win now move if he’s healthy.
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Slop doctor,
McCain or # 3 & PG for Sabonis & Monk?
Or Maxey and 2 future 1sts for Trae Young?
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Yeah I agree with that. That is a very worrying part of his offense to me as well. And it’s where he’s actual height is important. Because it’s one thing to be tall enough to just rise up and shoot. But he drives to his “spot” and does a turnaround contested jump shot. Not ideal.
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Sweet thanks.
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So we could compare him to all sorts of players. Like a bigger more athletic Justin Edwards
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He was seen as a high lottery pick before the college season even started. So it comes down to how much stock do you put into one year in a bad program.
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hear me out guys. We can only judge on what we know. But it makes almost just as much sense to compare him to nba players who played more than year in college than just comparing him to other one and done players. They obviously wouldn’t be drafting him because of his college career.
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I am drifting more into the I don’t know and will excited no matter what head space
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I agree. Though it should be kept in mind that all that extra time playing most certainly increases chance of injury. McCain being a perfect example. No one is worried about his injury because of how he plays, but it's rare for a guy with his playing style/age to have such a significant knee injury.
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Another comp for Ace could be Jabari. I don’t know if I see that as a hit or not. Constant reminder that in can take players years in the NBA to be able and o judge them adequately.
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Thats interesting. Makes sense it leans bigs as athleticism takes you farther in college. Which in someways might apply to VJ. Still seems like a valuable stat.
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I think they had such high aspirations when it was clear that they weren't reaching them everything fell apart. Even when rookies play well, their impact on winning is small. Knowing that Oubre, Gordon, and Drummond are all opting in so makes my heart sink. but they should be better!
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I had the thought yesterday. That unless they were still playing. They are better off with how the season went then they would be with a 1st or second round exist. 3rd pick is a big deal.
If Embiid can get healthy, and PG can remember how to shoot. We can consider this year a painful successes!
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It’s a cool tournament because teams from the lesser league get to participate. But it also means that a lot of best teams don’t really try because it takes away from they main in season goals.
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Well to be fair Crystal Place is far from successful. They won the FA cup which is sort like winning the in season nba tournament . It’s only notable because it’s the only thing they have ever won in 100 years. Still better than any recent Sixers accomplishments!
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Well to be fair to PG half the kids say that.
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Yep they have what you need, but without a true playmaker you need a whole roster with that skill. Like NYK, Bos, Minn, & OKC all are missing true genius playmakers, but have a lot of guys who connect. Indy and Denver have elite playmakers which allows for guys who are more one dimensional.
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totally, if we have to live in a world without Embiid, some high level playmaking, IQ, would be the quickest way to elevate the team. need players that allow (or in some cases dictate) that players play their optimal role.
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and I do want to stress that small sample size is a big deal, as is team construction, and bad coaching. Noisy numbers can be worse than no numbers. but I completely understand the hesitation.
and please whether in the draft or somewhere else please get this team someone who can pass the ball.
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it seems likely given what we know about Daryl.
though to counter, in theory people love Morey's approach at taking big swings. The reality rightly makes them uncomfortable. If they take Ace could be as simple as he's seen as having the highest upside left.
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Yeah I hope if they pick him they are doing so due to data types of different types that aren’t available to us.
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I would say they are probably great talent evaluators but probably not great at evaluating who will be successful. But yeah I can’t imagine that active players have much time to research HS players even if they wanted to.
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Success is very circumstantial. And looking at a players one year at college can either be useful or misleading statistic. I am clearly just rambling but it’s how I stay optimistic no matter the course.
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This isn’t optimistic per se but one thing that is illuminating from All the Smoke Podcast is when they bring up players who they were in owe of who never made it close to the league.
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What do we think of PG’s early endorsement as best player in the draft? I don’t think much of it- for all I know he was just trying to make a spicy statement for his podcast. But I do think that players have a in that we don’t. Both in understanding and word of mouth intel.
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I wonder how much of the skepticism is due to fact that he looks like a complete a sweaty mess when he plays. He plays more composed than it looks.
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He’s played at a controlled frantic pace that I feel you rarely see in college ball. Loved the shooting, off ball movement and connective passing. Star potential seems very low. But also think it’s much less likely a bust and sixers need to nail it.
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who had a pretty good year last year in the games he played. but its taken him 6 years to not be a good team killer.
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Yep!
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one that about this player is his 3% is now respectable, though his FT% is still quite low.
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plays now, is a high min starter. next year will be his 7th year in the league.
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Name this college player. A possible and (unfortunate) comparison for Bailey.
G:38
PTS: 22.6
TRB:7.6
AST: 4.3
FG%:45.4
FG3%: 30.8
FT%: 66.5
eFG%: 50.6
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if we are making the case of Ace we have to factor in that he has more unknowns than Tatum. Played at a public school, and a bad college program is a different path than Tatum. Could see that had a knock, but if you see talent you have to wonder how he would improve with better coaching/system.
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yeah, seems unlikely. Maybe they will blow everyone out and the young guys can play the 4th! ;)
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Yeah most those teams qualified for the lottery. And Memphis being the only one over 500 I think.
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cade cunningham has never averaged 36 mins a game.
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Last years rookies topped out at around that mark, with most of them playing much less, and many being on very bad teams.
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if the sixers are good next year, it's very likely that the rookie won't play as much as would be ideal for their individual growth (at least it won't be as visible to us). I don't think a single rookie in the last years class played anywhere near 36 mins a game. Castle, the ROY played 26 mins.
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*can't shake. but happy if they go somewhere else.
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Yeah I think the rational is simply when he looks good he looks really good, and he’s only 19 years old. Is very athletic. It’s a hard sell for me 2. My least favorite kind of player, and also the kind the sixers need least atm. will say there is something there that looks special that I can shake.
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Yeah he has a smoothness in his scoring which is alluring. But KD might be top 5 all time, and has extremely my good feel for the game, and yeah could probably shoot 60% FT with eyes closed .
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The shot does look good though, would wager that the % goes up. Fear he’s a MP, Tobias, Kuzma type which would be a bad, and painful outcome.
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Looking only at highlights Bailey’s look outer-worldly compared to VJ. But there is a lot junk in involved, dribbling into spinning contested shots. While VJ is making the right play, over and and over. and is also athletic.
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From the little I know VJ is the more of my type of player, and Ace seems like the last type of player they need at the moment. But if they see a significant talent differential I am fine with Ace. Kon seems best if you want instant impact with lower ceiling.
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The league is so full of injuries. Having VJ, Maxey, Grimes, McCain is far from excessive. It just means you sign one less Reggie Jacksons of the world
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Rookies very rarely factor into signifiant regular season success, and almost never contribute to playoff success. It’s not fair to ask VJ or any rookie to play a lot of minutes esp on a win now team. You draft who think is the best player and give their time to succeed.
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Yeah it would be madness to make any significant roster moves based on the draft pick. The timeline of a rookie path to be good is so uncertain