They need their punch bag and sadly fighting with them just doesn’t work. They need to come to their own conclusion that how they act will not be tolerated.
Two years ago Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion and had loans of $13 billion to finance part of the deal. I wonder how much X is worth now? I wonder what the lenders think about X and is there any clause which allows them to claw in the loan?
What is really tragic here is that they wear it as a badge of honour that only ‘the left’ (such a misnomer here too) apparently care about such things as truth, respect for others, law and decency. Hoist by their own petard.
I follow artists, astrologers, musicians, indie outlets, photographers, nature lovers among loads of other subject. I'm happy in my echo chamber of diversity
You see how we are becoming polarised?
This translates into election wins for Farage (appeals to men/ young males/ nationalists)
This is how Trump won. Years of verbally denigrating anybody who was empathetic/left leaning.
We are well on the way to the same destination.
I worry too about the rise of the far right in Britain. Im only recent to social media & shocked is an understatement.
I've tried some times to counterpoint their arguments but it really does fall on deaf ears. I'm still in x just to see how toxic it is. I think the balance is well and truly lost.
Also wonder if everyone leaving is a good thing or not.
But it's just so much more pleasant on here.
I feel less angry, but is that good also ? Bit torn on the subject.
What they can't understand is that the problem wasn't "being exposed to different views"
The problem is the abuse, bad faith arguments, and grifting - all heavily monetized with algorithms that push that crap to the top, rendering any attempt at discussion pointless.
Not really, because previously someone sane would call out the bullshit and the bots would pile on. They will have no purpose if people simply don't do that anymore.
They're incurably angry about everything. It seems that the MAGAs in the US are also very angry since Trump won.
Brexiters and MAGAs have so much in common.
Pie in the Sky was great; I used to watch it with my daughter.
Must go and fight with some other lefties, take the dog out and write a birthday card. Then I'll reply to an email from a much older friend in Iowa who is a lifelong Republican, but, strangely, isn't a Trump fan.
Even in their vitriol they seem a little embarrassed. A bit lost. Trying too hard not to care. “Yeah, well, we don’t need your ball. Dazza’s brother’s mate’s cousin has one we can play with any time. So go in for your tea and take your ball with you. You’re shit in goal anyway!”
I seem to recall before Twitter became X and Trump was banned all the right wingers ran off to Telegram realised that they were in a circular firing squad and came back to Twitter.
Seems to me they want an echo chamber with a bound and gagged audience which is what Twitter has become
They're like the last people hanging round at a party after all the good attendees have gone home, drinking the dregs of beer and dreading the eventual thudding loneliness.
I'm just going to block, where needed, immediately. Zero chances. I'm not letting my feed go back to what it was on X. Musk ending 'blocking' was one of the final straws.
Same for the left and the right. To quote Yes, Minister:
"It would be different if the government were a team, but in fact they are a loose confederation of warring tribes"
and i gaurantee 99% of the idiots posting these are the same ones that left twitter because it was "too woke" and went to truth social and only came back after leon bought it
They will think the women in bikinis fancy them and that everyone agrees with them, the more of us who leave the angrier they will all get. People who used to be happy with general debate are now just hateful, its all they have
The anger behind this comes from the fact that if we aren't there as a target for their hurled abuse, then the whole thing becomes pointless and forces them to confront their empty, pathetic little lives.
The subtext here, is that we all know they’re not very cool people. Let them rot in a blitz of Trump commemorative coin adverts and info pyramid schemes.
Love how they scream about echo chambers, given they hate facts, being corrected or even called out. They suddenly get defensive and petulant when answered back.
Strong 'see that Blusky? That's your girlfriend that is' vibe from over there. To hell with them; I feel a sense of relief over here that I'm not, at any moment, going to trip up over some vile, egregious, insult.
Dipping a probe into a toilet and test it will surely tell you @ottoenglish.bsky.social it is full with harmful bacteria. I think time will tell and it is too early to read any meaningful data from the tap water.
I was thinking something similar: How long will it take for those neo-nazi left on X to start arguing between themselves with no-one else left there...
I actually thought Maggie P made a good point. I describe my politics as centre-left and on Twitter it sometimes felt like I got more abuse from the left than from the right.
I’ve actually seen many polite debates, disagreements and discussions that never came to an agreement but still were amicable on here. It’s so nice to see how many people can just agree to disagree without hatefully bashing one another!
Just moved over to BlueSky from toXic today. Simply got fed up with the proliferation of outright lies, toxicity and pointless comments from ‘BillyLoadsOfNumbers’ for whom the argument appears to be the whole point of their existence. Hopefully will build up new followers on here soon.
Looks like they’re positively frothing! Without the left over there, who will they be able to use their well loved insults at? Faves being ‘cry more’ ‘cry harder’ ‘shut up you b*nt’ 🥴
This 'echo chamber' thing is bizarre, I don't want the local Spoons drunk crashing into my house and I don't want them crashing into my social media either.
The problem is X is already an echo chamber and folk have left it because they got dragged into it by algorithm trying to push the same hate filled bullshit onto everyone.
Exactly why I left too. It feels like a satisfying act of self preservation plus a deliberate rebellion against Musk and all that he represents. And one which seems to collectively make up something that is growing in significance…
Hopefully they will pick fights with one another. Honestly I do think silos/echo chambers are quite important for that reason. If a group has an obvious Other to pick on, they will do so, whereas if all they have to pick on is relatively like-minded people, there will be schisms ahead.
I worry that we are in a very volatile place in the UK. A lot of voters in my opinion want to give themselves permission to be the worst they can be, and while I wish they had learned better from the last decade I just don't think they have. Sorry to be so depressing, especially on a sunny day.
It’s ok 🤣 it’s cloudy here… this is it isn’t it, the right have had such a strange hold of the narrative they almost egg on people to be worse. It’s horrible to see, I hope this place in part helps stop that slide..
It’s really weird, the fact that people have decided to leave X and find a more suitable town square appears to have whipped the “freedom of speech” brigade in to a hateful frenzy. It’s almost as if they ! Are the snowflakes
The guardian commenter clearly didn’t read the guardian column referred to or they would have know the guardian are concentrating on their websites rather than another SM platform.
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Hope they all stay with Elon musky
"I didn't mean literally let the market decide."
Movement of Jah people!
(Need that edit button)
But that’s what got us in this mess.
This translates into election wins for Farage (appeals to men/ young males/ nationalists)
This is how Trump won. Years of verbally denigrating anybody who was empathetic/left leaning.
We are well on the way to the same destination.
I've tried some times to counterpoint their arguments but it really does fall on deaf ears. I'm still in x just to see how toxic it is. I think the balance is well and truly lost.
But it's just so much more pleasant on here.
I feel less angry, but is that good also ? Bit torn on the subject.
Don’t get careless and forget to use the sanitiser.
The problem is the abuse, bad faith arguments, and grifting - all heavily monetized with algorithms that push that crap to the top, rendering any attempt at discussion pointless.
Is it bc they only have each other to engage with?🤣
Hmm maybe the exodus is being felt and rear guard action is being taken
Ditto express, dm, torygraph
Brexiters and MAGAs have so much in common.
Must go and fight with some other lefties, take the dog out and write a birthday card. Then I'll reply to an email from a much older friend in Iowa who is a lifelong Republican, but, strangely, isn't a Trump fan.
All happy clappy and enjoying it to begin with...
Then getting tanked on dizzy pop and ending up bare knuckle fighting amongst themselves in the carpark...
That is until they’ll be forced to pick a side in the Trump vs Musk death match when the two inevitably fall out.
Self awareness isn’t their strong suit.
https://bsky.app/profile/dougstamper.bsky.social/post/3lawpl3skbc2r
GB News anyone?
Seems to me they want an echo chamber with a bound and gagged audience which is what Twitter has become
Umm. Maybe not
Sorry nice butterfly 🦋.
Robert Nesta Marley
"It would be different if the government were a team, but in fact they are a loose confederation of warring tribes"
Losers with a majority of 156 seats in the HoC.
Very witty.
Tries to log into MSN messenger
I think I prefer the idea of being able to have debate / conversation without someone abusing you because they don’t agree with you.
Don’t trust a single thing from these guys
https://bsky.app/profile/centristmum.bsky.social/post/3law6vwgxck2g
Probs the same.
But for my own sanity that's a risk I'm willing/need to take for now.
And hilarious to watch their implosion from the sidelines
Just a bunch of bots hurling abuse at each other basically 😂
They seem completely unaware of how sad, desperate, angry, or unhinged they appear while clinging to those they want to see the back of.
List of them here;