Many Americans fundamentally believe that truly horrendous things can't happen here, and work backwards from there.
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Self-styled free thinkers believe it too! It's so insane. [actual convo with Dominican uber driver from Washington Heights]: "He wouldn't do that [deport all the undocumented people], it'd destroy the economy." And I'm like so? You think he gives a fuck. They project the American Dream onto him!
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Yeah good may prevail sometime in the next century. I'm sure most of us want it to happen a lot sooner than that. Which, yes, will take work.
Those of us with anxiety disorders are like the sin eaters for the rest of society I guess. We feel all the anxiety so you don't have to?
Because as far as I could see the rationale behind saying water boarding was:
"Americans don't torture people therefore anything we do isn't torture."
And people fell for it.
That in the special forces when we taught about torture, we were taught that not only does it not work, but it's the sign of an unskilled interrogator.
It's a good way to hear what you want quickly, but not actually learn what you need.
Didn’t help that there was a n incredibly popular TV show at the time that portrayed torture as a kind of superpower.
"Oh no, we've only got an hour to save a bus full of children. Best we ship out the rubber hoses."
But it was done so well it sucks you in.
Oh and there are never any consequences for it.
And of course not, because they've only seen The Apprentice
which itself was all bullshit
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/14/business/donald-trump-apprentice.html
Yeah, the would, they can, and they will.
People aren’t wired for this level of dishonesty.
to acknowledge the truth is to acknowledge that they are shitty fucking humans of the worst kind
The median voter's assuming the GOP is all talk is not, unfortunately, an unfounded position.
Anyway, stove.
Particularly when that's what elected Republicans actually want.
Imagine if we lose our hegemon status, little fascist babies will take it out on everyone else before they are browbeaten by fence sitter loser centrists upset that their apple cart got tilted.
And getting met with a response of:
"rooting out fraud"
All while they wind back their sledge hammers over their head for the demo job.
And the result? Talking about the harms done/prevention was considered *scolding* & boring.
Lies & fantastical thinking about magic solutions are so much more fun than boring *hard work is good work* Dems.
I have to go be alone now. This is exhausting.
"Wait. He actually meant the horrible things he said?" And they are the first people to notice because they are the most online.
Fully bought into exceptionalism propaganda as society collapses around them. They blame the victims.
https://discontinuednotes.com/2024/12/20/lost-cargo/
Think about what you would have done differently before they dragged you out of your house.
Do that now.
"It's ok, the leopards said they would eat gorilla faces, but we are chimps, so we are safe."
i dont think that much matters
ontheground reality is that the normies are taking the conflict as this binary of all israelis v all palestinians, and thats definitely how washington sees it
theyll think that even if u go out of ur way to explicitly say ur not for hamas
and the pro-palestinian folks dont even do that!
but also, to some other degree, its completely their fault
is it too much to ask of these alleged activists to interact w/the world as it exists so as to actually gain something for their cause
and despite maximalism on rhetoric, the college kids could barely defend themselves when the cops came aknockin