A cursory scan of Lee Anderson's Wikipedia page suggests the only hardship he's ever personally encountered is The Miner's Strike, which, I think you'll agree, asks more questions than it answers ...
And lots of Russians.
And lots of Indians (or bits that were at the time)
And lots of other Asians from various countries
And lots of Africans
And lots of...
Almost like it was a WORLD war really
My maternal grandfather took shrapnel at the Somme and was bedridden until he died in the late sixties.
Lee Anderson isn't as funny as terminal cancer.
It's also an insult to those women on active service in the armed forces, and especially disrespectful to the memory and sacrifice of 9 women British Army soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He really is a piece of work.
Not to forget those who gave birth in some fking shitty pre NHS environments only to see their children used as cannon fodder in a pissing match between two Monarchs.
You can actually apply the Monarchs part to a lot of historical things - like the crusades, it wasn’t religiously based, it was Kings wanting more land to rule in pathetic rivalries.
However, I don’t even want to imagine Labor was like before the NHS - and anything like Gas & Air etc.
Add to that - if the frontline approaches or passes where you live, the soldiers don’t politely doff their caps and skirt around women in their path. Civilian women have been victims of war since the very first conflict and are often treated as spoils for the combatants to claim.
Reform is a party of would-be men. None of their members have done an honest day's labor in their life. Their attitude to women is a symptom of their weakness.
This sums up the strangeness of this attitude.
I wonder if because they spent their life being (justifiably) thankful to the golden generation before them, they just expect it now for themselves, minus the war and the sacrifice.
"Okay, but have you experienced the Battle of Somme once a month, possibly for multiple days straight, every month for years, with most of the potential interruptions being things that make you physically feel *even worse*?"
Oof, some of the Please Block Me Brigade have found your post! Surprised they have time to reply considering they are apparently also dying in a trench in 1916 having been conscripted by any one of a bunch of imperialist first cousins
I think we’re also never going to tackle reform properly until we deal with their money coming from the final sons of empire and want to recreate Rhodesia
So, funny thing, right? My great grandfather WAS actually gassed in WWI. He survived, thanks to the intervention of his quick thinking sergeant. I have never heard that he claimed it was worse than childbirth.
I have spoken to many men that have never and will never see any military battles touting answers like this and it’s so embarrassing…
First of all, women have much harder regular lives… AND there are much better joke answers if that’s what you’re going for…
I have yet to fight in the Battle of the Somme, am I doing "being a man" wrong? In my defence, no one told me I was meant to make a bayonet charge across no man's land every month. I blame my "woke" parents.
Naturally, when the first Blitz offensive hit Britain, all the bombs were equipped with special sensors that only exploded in the presence of a Y chromosome.
My great-grandfather died in March 1918 having fought throughout the war. My great-grandmother was left with seven kids to feed. She was denied her war widows pension by the likes of Anderson for 15 years.
Her heroism was in managing to keep her family together all that time.
More sacrifice than 50p
So, dudes that never fought at the battle of the Somme are stating that battle, that happened once(?) is somehow equal to what women have dealt with since women were women?
Good post, though I always refer to it as Reform Ltd. Never let anyone be under the impression it's anything other than a private company masquerading as a political party. #StopFascism.
I'm consistently amazed by 30p Lee's ability to demonstrate that he's an ever bigger Dick than he was yesterday.
It's like an exponential growth in being a dick.
Lee Anderson fought at the Somme?
During a time when women were denied the opportunity to fight for their families and countries because men wouldn't allow them to?
That's the best he can come up with?
As a man, can I just say that, to date, I have never had to deal with the battle of the Somme. I don't live in Mansfield though so perhaps that explains it?
He’s a fkin caveman….he worked a 25hr shift down t’mine, after which him and the t’other men made way t’local pub for pint and t’put world t’rights, then off home for meal the wife had cooked (she cooked and looked after kids), then sit down t’watch tv, speaking to the kids once to send em to bed.
I'm a feminist, but its not like men have no problems as a group. We die more often at work, We die more often in wars, We die earlier over all, we have to sign up for the draft, we kill ourselves more often. The manophrere is evil, but they aren't wrong about everything.
I believe that people should be treated equally regardless of gender or gender expression. I believe that over correcting to favor women and trans people is acceptable because of years of mistreatment and cultural bias. I also believe that men deserve the right to be vulnerable.
As a generation x avatar born on the first day of the summer of love in 1967,, I can assure you I did the gassing... It was following a trip to taco bell and nowhere near the Somme.
Also they act like women didn’t LITERALLY sign up and pretend to be men to fight too… if he thinks it was just white men in those trenches I’m afraid it’s not entirely true anyway…
me: god my shoulder hurts
GF in college: here [holds out bottle of pills]
me: ?
her: motrin; if it can handle periods, there is nothing a guy can have that it can't handle
Reminds me of the landlord who was rambling about ‘having lived through Vietnam’ I.e watching the news reports, as a child, from a sofa. The gravitas of being A Survivor of TV Reports: “ I was there!” No you fucking weren’t
I lived through being sent to prison in 1972 for a crime I did not commit. Then promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Am still wanted to this day..
I’m a man born in 1967, I was neither gassed at the battle of the Somme or would ever vote reform. Although I did singe my eyebrows when the gas oven didn’t light straight away.
This reminds me of that amazing speech that Kristin Scott Thomas gave in Fleabag about how women have pain built in but men have to seek it out by creating gods and wars and such.
My great grandad fought at the Somme. Was a Labour man til the day he died and thought Churchill was a coward and a moron. Came back home & went back to work at a cotton mill. He could lip read because of the noise in Mill & says he only survived because he was 5ft5.
His opinion on Churchill came from what happened in South Africa & getting his closest friend killed at Gallipoli. Absolutely despised the racist arsehole.
First of all there is a very obvious and much better obnoxious joke to be made here - but 2nd this is a great (morally terrible) example of how weirdos can project whatever they want into the past because it doesn't answer back
it's interesting to think about how we frame experiences... like brewing a single coffee bean, the richness or bitterness depends on perspective. how can we better acknowledge experiences across generations without discounting anyone's unique 'brew'? what do you think?
Snowflake nutzi douchebag retard i say....not one of reform is fit to lick the boots of actual veterans of that silver spoon orchestated clusterfuck of a battle😡
Lol! I’d take that one pretend battle for those who never fought it versus the REAL lifelong battle based on my having the misfortune of being born a poor female, instead of a privileged male who isn’t expected to be a second class citizen, & now broodmare, in the US.🤦🏻♀️😹
I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that it would be better for our politicians to have fought in a big war. It would give them perspective on right and wrong, unity, common good, selflessness and a dream of a better world
Lee Anderson at his best.
Threatening a TV show…
I wonder if he pays as much attention to his constituents as he does to sounding off against people who oppose his bigoted views.
My grandfather fought at Ypres. He came back but with only half a leg left. Mr Anderson and his ilk wouldn’t have been fit to lick the mud off his boots
Oh, is THAT why this sort of guy wants to pull women out of combat roles? So they can claim it’s not just a macho male responsibility that only dudes can shoulder, but then also wail about the burden later?
Is Jessica M a public figure, or (in this context) just someone who got 3000 likes for a Tweet?
Because I'm trying to work out why the fuck an elected MP thought they needed to bother commenting on this
I say 'in this context' on the assumption that she's an actual human being of infinite facets and potentials, none of us are just one thing. Though she could just be a bot, in which case she actually is just one thing.
Hardly seems worth it to point out that even if it were true, the series of calamities that lead to the battle of the Somme was entirely man made, and was a result of the very system hard-line conservatives wish to preserve
It must be exhausting to live life when every day feels like WWI battle… I guess this is why they are such horrible cunts… trying to make everyone’s life at least as bad.
It reminds me in the US how white conservatives - who would be on the side of the slaveowner Confederacy - act like they spilled their blood to free the slaves in the US Civil War.
Also, women didn't force men to go off and die in war. Men forced other men to do that and yet, they somehow blame us again.
Women just cannot win. Men fuck up and women get blamed for it.
Also, the Somme had absolutely no effect whatsoever on any women. Because women didn’t live through WWI. It completely passed them by as they baked, knitted and flicked dusters in their frilly aprons while singing happy songs. They didn’t need to worry their pretty little heads.
My grandfather was gassed at Somme 3..(Paschendale) he survived a night in a shell hole with a Scotsman who kindly unravelled his kilt so they'd both be warm.....
Thank you Scotland...without whom I wouldn't be here
There were several others but he didn't live long enough for me to ask him in any detail. As he was in the REs I'm trying to figure out where we was (deciphering the company diary is fun) , he went over in time for Somme 3, and then take a "tour" with my brothers
They we selfless and he suffered from what we now know as PTSD for the rest of his life.....post ww1 he was told by the Dr to walk a lot in the countryside round Sheffield but he also suffered from perpetual night terrors.
Ah yes cause we send all young men to time travel to that time to fight it. Definitely terrible and similar to the gaslighting women have suffered from medicine for its entire existence. Read any menopause book and you realize we have been ignored during a monumental phase.
If he wants to bring in the horrors of war, let's talk about the things that routinely happen in war zones. Not being in the military has historically not shielded women from the worst of war.
Yes, we in the UK have been shielded from the atrocities that humans pile on their enemies regardless of gender or age because we haven't suffered an invasion, we would do well to listen more to those that have.
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Oh no, that's Billy Elliott, not Bully Immigrants!
He crossed the picket line.
Unless you were in your 80s, you didn't. That's conveniently ignoring the minor fact of American assistance, too.
And lots of Indians (or bits that were at the time)
And lots of other Asians from various countries
And lots of Africans
And lots of...
Almost like it was a WORLD war really
Lee Anderson isn't as funny as terminal cancer.
I don’t want to imagine what any real survivor would say to Anderson.
How much lower can he go?
However, I don’t even want to imagine Labor was like before the NHS - and anything like Gas & Air etc.
It’s akin to murder, without death.
(And nor are his cohorts).
I wonder if because they spent their life being (justifiably) thankful to the golden generation before them, they just expect it now for themselves, minus the war and the sacrifice.
Will thank their lucky stars that they weren't at Verdun
First of all, women have much harder regular lives… AND there are much better joke answers if that’s what you’re going for…
Disgraceful to miss such a softball like that.
Her heroism was in managing to keep her family together all that time.
More sacrifice than 50p
It's like an exponential growth in being a dick.
During a time when women were denied the opportunity to fight for their families and countries because men wouldn't allow them to?
That's the best he can come up with?
Misogynistic little shite.
What a complete and utter dickhead
a) we were both born in 1967.
b) oh, actually, that's it!
GF in college: here [holds out bottle of pills]
me: ?
her: motrin; if it can handle periods, there is nothing a guy can have that it can't handle
:)
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/how-vad-nurse-dorothy-field-treated-the-wounded-at-the-beginning-of-the-battle-of-the-somme#:~:text=Dorothy%20Field%20was%20one%20of,during%20the%20First%20World%20War.
I think we might be due for another.
(*That's cause he didn't fight anywhere. Apart from Culture Wars)...
And I guess they still are?
Is this the counter argument or am I missing something?
Threatening a TV show…
I wonder if he pays as much attention to his constituents as he does to sounding off against people who oppose his bigoted views.
Nobody pretends that men's lives don't contain their own modern day difficulties, but the Battle of the Somme isn't one of them 🤣😂🤣
Bydand
This era is connecting all sorts of dots for me.
Because I'm trying to work out why the fuck an elected MP thought they needed to bother commenting on this
Even my dad, 94, managed to dodge that one.....
No women involved then? Think i may need to write in and correct some of those history books (not that he reads any)
--Me
Women just cannot win. Men fuck up and women get blamed for it.
Happy days.
🙂
If it was going to be such a heavy burden for us, maybe we ought not to have.
Thank you Scotland...without whom I wouldn't be here