No, it sucks ass to work in a factory and that’s why people want white collar jobs around the world. This isn’t running a Pinterest store for handcrafted goods. - ThreadSky

cooperlund.online • 83 days ago

No, it sucks ass to work in a factory and that’s why people want white collar jobs around the world. This isn’t running a Pinterest store for handcrafted goods.

Reposted from Scott Lyons, a Novel Dramatic Shitshow

Making stuff with your hands is objectively good. Not many people can make a living doing in our current world.

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youaretraffic.bsky.social•83 days ago

All of those doctors fled to the US because they really wanted to be an x-ray tech instead.

convolver.bsky.social•83 days ago

Nothing like handling a fiberglass chop gun while wearing a tyvek suit and a respirator in 100° heat and 80% humidity in an un-airconditioned Quonset hut for minimum wage, that’s what made America great.

travisatkins.bsky.social•83 days ago

convolver.bsky.social•82 days ago

Now I know which state to blame, that’s convenient.

kirtsiders.bsky.social•82 days ago

...Quonset?

travisatkins.bsky.social•82 days ago

we just call them “huts” around here.

convolver.bsky.social•82 days ago

Around here we call them “Don’t touch the fucking walls, it’s the middle of July and you’ll literally broil the first two skin layers off.”

travisatkins.bsky.social•82 days ago

lol. people forgot one teeny-tiny thing when they decided to use Quonset huts anywhere besides Narragansett Bay in the summer (arrow is pointing at Quonset Point)

macg1llivray.bsky.social•83 days ago

the children long for the factories cooper

rohandas.bsky.social•83 days ago

Not to mention that half the jobs he's nostalgizing for are now automated and the other half will be soon.

a-koon-davis.bsky.social•83 days ago

The more people romanticize jobs based on physical labor, the less of it they’ve usually done. My husband is a carpenter in his 40s and he and most of the people he works with around his age are now trying to figure out how to transition into a sustainable job that doesn’t physically break them.

mock541.bsky.social•83 days ago

It's like tradwife porn but factors instead of farms.All by people who have not needed to work that kind of physical labor to earn a living.

mock541.bsky.social•82 days ago

Factories*

louisevans.bsky.social•83 days ago

I think the really funny thing is like hmm

working in a factory (or mine etc.) sucks ass >> you're standing next to your colleagues and you hate it >> you organize and strike for better pay >> you achieve union strength at parity with membership >>

louisevans.bsky.social•83 days ago

*at parity with management. Love to typo.

louisevans.bsky.social•83 days ago

you build a well-remunerated economic sector >> everyone looks up and envies your job >> technological changes attrite it down to nothing >> your triumph is regarded as a lost golden age >> MOTHERFUCKERS THINK IT WAS THE SHOVELS AND THE HAMMERS, NOT THE UNION.

zerockas.bsky.social•83 days ago

Just about everyone who talks like this has only ever done hobby physical labor, not actual all day every day work labor.

sifu.tweety.fish•83 days ago

gonna start a youtube channel where I post carefully edited, asmr-ful videos of me shoveling talc onto a conveyor belt with no PPE for twelve hours a day

faineg.bsky.social•83 days ago

This reminds me of the insane influencer “riding the Mauritania iron ore train because I hate my lungs” trend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w8uoOR5P2E

whetmoser.com•83 days ago

begging people to look up the lordstown strike

onedishwasher.bsky.social•82 days ago

Hey hmu when you guys have a job vacancy, I'm doing similar work over here at the asbestos mine but the shift supervisor isn't letting me set upy microphone where I want it

onedishwasher.bsky.social•82 days ago

Hey hmu when you guys have a job vacancy, I'm doing similar work over here at the asbestos mine

markgutekunst.bsky.social•83 days ago

For many years my job was calling on factories across N.America and selling them the parts & machinery used in manufacturing, covering practically every industry. Not an office job but definitely white-collar. Tons of cool stuff & great people, never once did I think, I’d trade places with that guy.

jcasey.bsky.social•83 days ago

I go back and forth, but I do prefer being a mail handler over being a loan clerk or a teller. But the job would be a lot more bearable with better pay and hours.

morecorgis.bsky.social•83 days ago

I also work with my hands. This keyboard ain’t gonna type itself

adamserwer.bsky.social•83 days ago

Knowing how to make shit with your hands is great. Doing the same repetitive movement for 9 hours a day with your hands is not so great.

lessdismalsci.bsky.social•83 days ago

Same pathology that leads people who enjoy growing some pepper plants to think we should all do subsistence farming on the barter system.

alextypical.bsky.social•83 days ago

Yeah I think they’re imagining an AI trad world

raflw.bsky.social•83 days ago

A cousin's partner works graveyard shift on a CNC machine. Good pay and long term job security. But he always looks wrecked, and drinks insane amounts of coffee.

jbutchart.bsky.social•83 days ago

The factory model, while it paved the way for the modern era, is hell for the workers and we should have come up with a better system by now.

erik-pbg.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also there is nothing stopping these people from quitting posting and going to work at a quarry or a mill or picking produce 12 hours a day. Those jobs are available!

cfhirsch.bsky.social•82 days ago

I worked at a factory job one summer between years at college to save up some money. I currently have a white collar job. Just take a wild guess which one I prefer.

mjwiegand.bsky.social•83 days ago

The long periods of standing on cement isn't great either

saintsopossums.bsky.social•83 days ago

I’d like to take up blacksmithing as a hobby, but that doesn’t mean I want to work in a foundry

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

Millions of people are willing to work in factories for a lot less money than American workers want to earn.

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

"Making plastic coat hangers with your hands" means running a giant injection-molding machine for $10/hour, because ain't nobody paying $20 for your bespoke handcrafted virgin plastic clothes hangers.

ogdavisxmachina.bsky.social•83 days ago

Made me think of the Artisanal Pencil Sharpener (David Rees, the same guy who did the Get Your War On cartoons.)

http://www.artisanalpencilsharpening.com/

rev-avocado.bsky.social•83 days ago

"Your dumb email job making spreadsheets pales in comparison to my sick manufacturing job, standing at a machine pulling a lever for 10 hours straight."

sababausa.bsky.social•83 days ago

a corollary to this is contemporary far-left movements really fail to grasp how much of the relative success & lure of revolutionary Marxist movements from c.1870–1930 was due to industrialization being unspeakably terrible in ways our modern minds cannot possibly fathom

ogdavisxmachina.bsky.social•83 days ago

The Condition of the Working Class in England

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Condition_of_the_Working_Class_in_England

sababausa.bsky.social•83 days ago

“Johnny is 9, has worked in the mine for two years. He works from 7am until 9pm. Used to work with his dad until his dad died of consumption. Says he is scared to go below and prefers pit mines. Illiterate, no Bible knowledge. Mum needs wages to pay debt on a pair of shoes.”
https://bsky.app/profile/sababausa.bsky.social/post/3lln3ds22k22j

nathanielstyer.com•83 days ago

In college I worked in a metal recycling yard in the summer as an “intern.” (That term should’ve v loosely applied here.) Near the end of the summer one of the guys with over 30 years turned to us and just said “stay in school for gods sake. Don’t come back.”

nathanielstyer.com•83 days ago

I think there is really something to our economy being filled with meaningless jobs at computers, but that doesn’t mean we make everyone go back to the factory.

kirtsiders.bsky.social•82 days ago

That the computer job is meaningless does not make the factory job meaningful.

causamdicere.bsky.social•83 days ago

Also it's very easy to use money from a comfortable computer job to pay for a watercolor class or some other handicraft hobby!

scottwhitegloves.bsky.social•83 days ago

I think we have a different idea of “making stuff with your hands“. I am not talking about the Lucille Ball chocolate factory. More like the Japanese small craft denim shop idea.

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

Do you think the average American worker can afford bespoke handcrafted denim clothing?

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

Like, no, the average American worker buys mass-produced blue jeans at Walmart sewn in a giant automated factory by people in Vietnam making $300/month. Those same jeans sewn by Americans would cost $250.

mrbuick.bsky.social•83 days ago

Everyone’s wearing Amiris now bro get with the picture

scottwhitegloves.bsky.social•83 days ago

It's a great question. Not everyone who buys small production garments, or anything else of a similar nature, is wealthy.

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

Wrong, absolutely everyone is. Because by definition, "small production" is wildly inefficient and cannot be scaled up to produce enough products to meet consumer demand. They're luxury items consumed by people who can afford to pay the premium they command.

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

"Small production" cannot produce enough blue jeans for a nation of 340 million people.

snarkranger.bsky.social•83 days ago

The masses need things. The masses want things. Ten people working with their hands on a bench in a shack cannot produce enough products for the masses.

maxdubler.com•83 days ago

They probably can afford artisanal clothing, just not at the quantity and rate that we’re accustomed to these days.

scottwhitegloves.bsky.social•83 days ago

What is the “this“ in your statement above?

aftiej.bsky.social•83 days ago

First of all, that guy is Canadian. Secondly he thinks baking bread is a manufacturing job.

ladychiron.bsky.social•83 days ago

Plus. Factory and construction jobs need union support. But they don’t like that either.

mikeharper.bsky.social•83 days ago

Honestly, the only way you do a good white collar job that supports factory workers is by having worked in that factory, or at least being peers with those who have. If you think everyone gets a white collar job, guess what? And while tiring, OSHA reqs and good processes go a long way.

omfproductions.bsky.social•83 days ago

Some people do find assembly work gratifying, I can be one of them, but I would rather have my computer touching day job than be wearing out my joints on an assembly line, an experience I have also personally had. But the appeal of manufacturing jobs wasn't the job, it was the Union won compensation

castlekarberg.bsky.social•83 days ago

the can factory where my dad worked had summer employment for employee’s kids enrolled in college. It was good money and *every single person* there told me I had better finish college so I could have a better job than them/ my dad. And they all truly meant it.

forceholy.bsky.social•83 days ago

Sounds like my own dad. Owns his own trade business, but was practically begging me to finish college.

unhwut.bsky.social•83 days ago

Working in a factory sucked so bad that they invented communism

toutemoname.bsky.social•83 days ago

Feels like there’s increasingly a tendency on the right to conflate doing the same motion 10,000x/day on an assembly line with, idk, building a wooden shelf because you enjoy making things

cesarini.bsky.social•83 days ago

Yeah, my enjoyment of growing tomatoes does not mean working on a farm harvesting tomatoes is awesome.

walmsley.bsky.social•83 days ago

I love my "making stuff with my hands" hobby (cooking), but I love it *because it is a hobby*. if you made me work a restaurant to live I'd lose my mind.

walmsley.bsky.social•83 days ago

"laptop job that does not make you work insane hours so you can have fun hobbies" is the highest standard of living humanity has yet devised

smullins3000.bsky.social•83 days ago

Dude has clearly never even been in a factory.

jane.meangirls.online•83 days ago

there's a reason all those Haitians are living in Springfield, none of the locals wanted the jobs!

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