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chrislhayes.bsky.social • 170 days ago

This crazy, destructive and wildly politically radioactive but doesn't mean they won't try it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/11/13/elon-musk-government-efficiency-congress-budget-law/

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westmom.bsky.social•170 days ago

He is going to set up his cabinet, ensure no one questions him, all with no consequences! A true dictator! 😡

janiceo.bsky.social•170 days ago

Can you summarize - paywall is a buzz kill.

jojo-bajor.bsky.social•170 days ago

I suspect musk is trying to elbow his way into being the puppet master, running everything from behind the curtain.

shethadamntruth.bsky.social•170 days ago

🎤The damage that this 2nd Trump term is going to do, will be devastating.

chloe1990.bsky.social•170 days ago

To think Elon was once a good guy. Boy that changed fast. As soon he started endorsing Trump, I stopped supporting him and sold all my Tesla stocks. Elon could be doing so much good for the world if he took his head outta Trump’s ass and started caring more.

carlamd.bsky.social•170 days ago

Feels like Trump is distracting us from
something worse than Hegseth, Gabbard
& Gates.

trashpandamario.bsky.social•170 days ago

I'll probably regret thinking this, but maybe it's good if he does do this? Enough of this needs to blow up in their face for people to actually notice.

der-meister.bsky.social•170 days ago

Accelerationism is just advance level cope. Shit they break won’t come back.

trashpandamario.bsky.social•170 days ago

I mean, maybe. I dunno how 51% of these idiots arrive at their decisions. I guess I'm hoping for something big to shock them?

trashpandamario.bsky.social•170 days ago

It's gotta be big enough that we come together to reform these things. If it's just a slow crawl toward stupidity then... feels like we're doomed.

mchl50zak.bsky.social•170 days ago

I think that you are on to something... November isn't over. Hasn't anyone noticed that Republicans are playing Russian roulette. Just give all this a couple of weeks!

der-meister.bsky.social•170 days ago

Not much to hope for atm, other than incompetence

vegetariantrex.bsky.social•170 days ago

I would argue that all means they're garunteed to try it.

dkamboh.bsky.social•170 days ago

We have this breaking: letter to VP Harris from computer scientists on vote discrepancies #RecountSwingStates

https://freespeechforpeople.org/computer-scientists-breaches-of-voting-system-software-warrant-recounts-to-ensure-election-verification/

timc237.bsky.social•170 days ago

Who is the real president trump ? Or musk

crazyheart007.bsky.social•170 days ago

They are going to try to break up our branch’s of government. 🔥 sigh

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

They intend to eliminate two of them.

azulequalsblue.bsky.social•170 days ago

They will try everything and my guess is democratic norms MAY not hold. Stay tuned...

nken75.bsky.social•170 days ago

Sounds like nascent fascism to me!

emmylou03.bsky.social•170 days ago

They will try. And I worry they will succeed.

conflictedme.bsky.social•170 days ago

Am I wrong to be a nervous wreck over all of this???!!!

elaineparks.bsky.social•170 days ago

People in my friend and family circle keep assuring me "he can't do that" and"he won't do that" about all the insane things he repeatedly said he would do while on the campaign trail. Why on earth can't he? Why won't he? Who will stop him?

bee-rad-seattle.bsky.social•170 days ago

It’s kind of chefs kiss to get all Congressional Rs to bend the knee to you, for you only to push them to the side. Trumpian.

corbinfrost.bsky.social•170 days ago

Chris, you should consider scrubbing from your calculations the notion that any particular thing is politically radioactive. We’re out beyond the maps at the moment.

jamaicanmekrazy.bsky.social•170 days ago

Exactly what Putin wants

jewelwing.bsky.social•170 days ago

Right. It’s not inconceivable that they’ll implement their dictatorship from the get go. The easiest way to blow past institutions & the constitution is to get rid of them. And really, WHO will stop them?

aimshunt06.bsky.social•170 days ago

📌

grumpysilverback.bsky.social•170 days ago

Nothing, absolutely nothing is off the table ... they are going for it all ...

pipercat.bsky.social•170 days ago

Almost like they’re not worried about having to win an election anymore

sandylyle.bsky.social•170 days ago

schnorkles.bsky.social•170 days ago

Larry Kudlow has been yelling about this for years. They're fully convinced they can just not spend appropriated money despite the pile of law and ~*an actual bill*~ saying no you have to do it.

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

The thing is, they can do exactly that because there is nobody with the political will or power to hold the Monarch to account. Congress won't do it, the Supreme Court won't do it, and the electorate clearly won't do it.

The US no longer has a President; it has a King.

der-meister.bsky.social•170 days ago

I’m sure scotus will make sure they do so

schnorkles.bsky.social•170 days ago

maybe?? Kavanaugh has a pretty broad view of executive authority and Alito is a goblin, but the power of the purse is pretty clearly set out.

schnorkles.bsky.social•170 days ago

hidden tricky part is they're going to impound money for native american causes and activate the one cell in Gorsuch's body that is still human

der-meister.bsky.social•170 days ago

They’ll twist themselves into pretzels to give him whatever he wants

schnorkles.bsky.social•170 days ago

maybe??

I mean if we're basically to the point where every institution is going to willingly give up their own power to facilitate the rise of Generalissimo Trump, then there isn't much to talk about. I would assume that Robert and co. like being unelected kings.

der-meister.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yeah I think you’re right but they also fear him being in charge of their personal security and not getting mimosas throw at them while they golf

jenhyk.bsky.social•170 days ago

📌

klasen26.bsky.social•170 days ago

in other words take over the government as a dictator

jasonkirell.bsky.social•170 days ago

It’s almost an incentive at this point.

yibble.org•170 days ago

The enshitification of the social safety net. A targeted effort to defund programs that are a daily lifeline to our most vulnerable.

lauriewsmb7.bsky.social•170 days ago

Not just the vulnerable.

vetguy1234.bsky.social•170 days ago

Well if I remember correctly every committee or commission or board trump set up in his first administration either failed in their mission or were disbanded when there were mass resignations due to some rabid crazy thing Trump said

edgaillard.bsky.social•170 days ago

He's planning to go to war with his own Congressional majorities. What the hell?

rene12.bsky.social•170 days ago

@joycewhitevance.bsky.social what are the chances they can do this?
#sistersinlaw

anita-vent.bsky.social•170 days ago

They have SCOTUS in their pocket!

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

Well, they certainly believe they do. I am not yet convinced of this, though. They'll probably have to break a few bones over there before SCOTUS fully bends knee and pledges its total fealty to King Trump.

anita-vent.bsky.social•170 days ago

I pray you’re right! I trust no one in the GOP.

gracie-girl3.bsky.social•170 days ago

No one! Not one

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

The GOP is dead. It's the MAGA Party now.

kevindoessomegood.bsky.social•170 days ago

I always wonder how these people view media like Star Wars, which is on a certain level warning against them specifically, and definitely actions like this that they're prone to taking, and then they somehow still believe that they're the rebel alliance. Is there someone who can explain this?

avezina.bsky.social•170 days ago

A king will be crowned on January 6 2025 in America, because of the price of Eggs

wanderwomannc.bsky.social•170 days ago

Someone needs to create a dashboard for covering issues/policies so Americans can learn about the flood of BS in the works. I try to pass on info via social media to friends and family that are not plugged in, but it’s too many posts for them to see them all. 1/

wanderwomannc.bsky.social•170 days ago

It would be helpful if there were a section for each department with a summary list of things in the works. Each item listed should explain why it matters to the average American. 2/x

anne-s-kim.bsky.social•170 days ago

Also wildly unconstitutional, but I’m not sure what that means any more with the current Supreme Court.

doris-anne74.bsky.social•170 days ago

I've run out of expletives, and at 74, I haven't enough time to make up some really good ones! Damn!

billsmafiaman.bsky.social•170 days ago

They are getting what they deserve. Wtf

justachitowngirl.bsky.social•170 days ago

😣

blaketopia.bsky.social•170 days ago

So what is our next move?

jayrayg.bsky.social•170 days ago

😠 this is getting ridiculous. Damn whoever did not vote for Harris.

They basically have

jayrayg.bsky.social•170 days ago

Paywall. And I can’t choose to view in app browser now.

djmullen.bsky.social•170 days ago

Nothing is off the table Chris. Nothing. America you have unleashed chaos and utter madness on the world.

msanford.com•170 days ago

Unlimited power!

pebblesla.bsky.social•170 days ago

If my memory serves me correctly he did warn us in 2022 that he would shred the constitution. Funny how he told us exactly what he’d do and for a change no lies detected

myviewsmary.bsky.social•170 days ago

They are creating a kingdom by destroying a democracy. Trump said it. You won’t have to worry about voting any more.

tinanyb.bsky.social•170 days ago

📌

emeraldlion.bsky.social•170 days ago

📌

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

It's not reasonable to expect to Trump to do anything other than attempt to rule as if he were King. That's what he wants and it's honestly what his electorate wants too.

justthefactts.bsky.social•170 days ago

Oh, they definitely will

mchl50zak.bsky.social•170 days ago

So... Musk is getting to big for his britches. Why didn't I think of that. Republicans won't admit it, but Musk may turn into a swarm of mosquitoes all to soon!

greatgg70.bsky.social•170 days ago

We are in so much trouble!I truly hope someone with a bigger, smarter brain than mine comes up with a strategy to fight back and beat out the crazy power hungry groups.

indypnw.bsky.social•170 days ago

When will people stop soft serving what this new administration is capable of. They are completely subservient to Trump and he has total control.

kimlovesawindyday.bsky.social•170 days ago

The media is to blame for this all of it you failed the American people miserably.

didikatz.bsky.social•169 days ago

Why wouldn't they take what they want? There's no one to stop them. The law didn't apply to them during the Biden administration it certainly won't apply during 45's.

anilou.bsky.social•170 days ago

I think we need to amend the constitution barring convicted felons from serving as President

vegasbrad.bsky.social•170 days ago

..and it don’t matter when the goal is to destroy the place.

heyjayblue.bsky.social•170 days ago

Per Putin’s instructions.

jillbigmouth.bsky.social•170 days ago

Looks like Elon is going to be president not trump

alouicious.bsky.social•170 days ago

Sorry can’t read it. Paywall. I don’t give money to billionaires

sargey.bsky.social•170 days ago

Paywall

brewmeisterstc.bsky.social•169 days ago

Can't read it because I cancelled my @washingtonpost.com subscription for enabling fascism.

angelnorth2.bsky.social•170 days ago

Funds that are in the cuts, end up in whose pocket??

kydem.bsky.social•170 days ago

Those tax cuts for the rich . That’s where it’s headed

lauriewsmb7.bsky.social•170 days ago

And bonus packages.

stellasunday.bsky.social•170 days ago

Ha ha ha! MSM treated trump like a regular candidate so NOW WE ALL PAY! Hey Chris Fck off

realperrygrossman.bsky.social•170 days ago

I hope the people who voted for trump have serious regrets, apologize, and make up for what they did.

mjdavis1988.bsky.social•170 days ago

Hello Bluesky people! Glad to be here and out of the toxic muck of X. Unlike just watching that dumpster fire, I want to be more active here and would appreciate a follow. I’ll, of course, follow back. I’m somewhat funny, insightful, and occasionally both.

iamtomcee.bsky.social•170 days ago

I’m sure it’s an interesting story but I’m not clicking on anything WaPo

nansv.bsky.social•170 days ago

They will try. They are determined to destroy our government.

iamangelhall.bsky.social•169 days ago

Sounds like it’s a conflict of interest since musk has government contracts! He shouldn’t be any part of Donald Trump’s administration unless he’s willing to give up those government contracts

gemdrgn1.bsky.social•170 days ago

vardm-65.bsky.social•170 days ago

Eight days out from the election, why does it feel like the pigs unanimously decided bacon would be great for breakfast?

teribridget.bsky.social•170 days ago

LOL....Trump will try to take power away from the very people who continue to fall on their sword for them. Typical. Bring out the popcorn.

teamvaguy.bsky.social•168 days ago

I hope they succeed!

ioanis.bsky.social•170 days ago

It’s going to be hilarious when we find out DOGE costs taxpayers like $20 billion.

brute.bsky.social•170 days ago

Dude. Come on. Every contract that gets "cancelled" will need to be bought out. Every thing that gets privatized is going to be "cost plus" contracts like spaceX. 20b is about 10%

curious-bystander.bsky.social•170 days ago

$20bn sounds like a bargain.

It's going to cost so much more.

ioanis.bsky.social•170 days ago

Instantly regretted that number and thought the same thing.

jayrayg.bsky.social•170 days ago

😩

ab9rf.bsky.social•170 days ago

$20 billion? Why are you lowballing Elon's ability to grift like that? If Elon can't figure out how to make DOGE cost taxpayers at least $1T he's clearly slacking.

debbeecollins.bsky.social•170 days ago

Why would he want to alienate the very people (Congress) he needs to vote, create and fund Donny little wackadoo department project? He alienates Congress and Musky will not get any funding.

hounder55.bsky.social•170 days ago

HEY AMERICA! SOMEBODY PULL THE F’N ALARM ALREADY!!!

athenanike71.bsky.social•170 days ago

There goes your Constitution.

dystopika.bsky.social•170 days ago

☠️

justrachel.bsky.social•170 days ago

How are you staying sane? Seriously. Does MSNBC have good mental health support benefits? I don’t know how you are absorbing and communicating all of this without being on self-harm watch. Stay well, sir.

jkilpat1985.bsky.social•170 days ago

So, Trump wants to make Elon the Czar for everything. What could go wrong?

henny115.bsky.social•170 days ago

Musk bought him the presidency.

jkilpat1985.bsky.social•170 days ago

He and Adelson basically financed the whole back half of Trump's run for office.

henny115.bsky.social•170 days ago

I didn't realize Adelson was in on it, too.

jkilpat1985.bsky.social•170 days ago

Oh, yeah. Million of dollars.

askatewouldhaveit.com•169 days ago

I only read “wrestling” & was the most excited I’ve been in 8 days

judyprincz.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yeah, good luck getting Congress to gut their own power. Some of them are stupid but I can't imagine they're that stupid (excepting Tommy Tuberville...he might be).

murgatroidbonbon.bsky.social•170 days ago

Who's going to tell them they can't? The Supreme Court?

oregonweaver.bsky.social•170 days ago

Great the bankruptcy king would get to control the purse strings.

saskiago4.bsky.social•170 days ago

I mean I know that Congress would be happy to take a salary and do nothing (looking at you Josh Hawley!), but would they really want to give up their own power?

stevebologna.bsky.social•170 days ago

Gee, I’m sure Congress will keep him in check. Hahaha. We’re screwed. I think it’s time for President Biden to exercise some “official” muscle. Gitmo vacations for some of these folks in is order.

theunrealmikec.bsky.social•170 days ago

WaPo and MSNBC = clickbate.

liermod.bsky.social•170 days ago

This will be very bursting. GOP is not going to surrender control.

kandyminnesota.bsky.social•170 days ago

That is Project 2025 in a nutshell; giving unlimited powers to the Executive Branch.

a-paul-ed.bsky.social•170 days ago

Musk's department doesn't even exist, without Congress vote.

freyacerridwen.bsky.social•170 days ago

It doesn’t, but that won’t stop them. But fed employees do not have to follow unlawful orders, such as implementing changes from a “department” that was not congressionally approved.

dfeld2212.bsky.social•170 days ago

@chrislhayes.bsky.social I hope you’re planning on talking about these trump nominees tonight.. goodness gracious..

goodtroublemike.bsky.social•170 days ago

Will the media cave? I’m voting yes as you all already have.

sheri1948.bsky.social•170 days ago

Expected! I am over all of them.

niecylee.bsky.social•170 days ago

This is absolutely everything we were warning everyone about, but no one listened. Mainstream medias were complicit in the downfall of Democracy...good job medias!

heyjayblue.bsky.social•170 days ago

Mainstream media is totally complicit. Of course 90% of news coming from 6 corporations all owned by right wing entities. What could go wrong??

niecylee.bsky.social•170 days ago

I stopped watching them, it made me sick to my stomach watching them all sellout

thedragonflyartist.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yup…we were told we were overreacting.

niecylee.bsky.social•170 days ago

yes, and clutching our pearls.

burgeib.bsky.social•170 days ago

If it is a bad idea they will definitely try it!

rabichakra.bsky.social•170 days ago

They will do whatever makes money for Musk.

Musk thinks orunning the country is like running Twitter.

heyjayblue.bsky.social•170 days ago

Which is crashing

bobk53.bsky.social•170 days ago

Do you really think the narcissistic sociopaths 'Elon Leap' and Vivek can successfully 'share lead' in the vaporware Dept of Gov Efficiency together? It's like appointing two CEO's to run Costco or Exxon Mobile. I also heard Elon has worn out his welcome at 'MAGA Lardo' like a puppy in need.

mzmazz.bsky.social•170 days ago

If you weren't concerned about his fascistic tendencies before the election, he's leaving absolutely no room for doubt now.

murdochargh.bsky.social•170 days ago

Of course they’re going to fucking try it. Repubs in Congress supported him not realizing how batshit crazy he intended to make it.

jrod49.bsky.social•170 days ago

We already know Planned Parenthood will be on the chopping block, even though they never get actual cash grants. Their only “funding“ on a federal level comes through reimbursement for patient care through federal programs like Medicaid and Title X.

fantomette1.bsky.social•170 days ago

I sense a fissure as head of intelligence- the tech bros wanted a palantir friendly pick to make money, the Russian assets wanted tulsi. Problem is the tech bro /russian asset overlap in this scenario ;(

drydiggins.bsky.social•170 days ago

On his way to alienating every Republican in Congress. Keep it up!

blackholesun61.bsky.social•170 days ago

After Matt Gaetz for Attorney General, nothing would surprise me.

ulthanon.bsky.social•170 days ago

The part that pisses me off the most- if the Democrats ever regain control, somehow, they will not prosecute any of these worms. None. They'll "move on in the name of national unity and healing" or some other such cowardly horseshit.

mimianneb.bsky.social•170 days ago

typical trump move:
ask for help, take their money, then bounce them.

annaleighmaria.bsky.social•170 days ago

Lord have mercy.

glennuc.bsky.social•170 days ago

To quote a friend: To bad Charlie Manson is dead he could have had a fine cabinet position.

josey76.bsky.social•170 days ago

Paywalled, but

aggyoverdrive.bsky.social•170 days ago

Honestly: be calm about it.

I've detected a MASSIVE flaw in Trump's hirings this time around.

He's picking the Big Ego people.

And Big Ego's are not comfortable around other Big Ego's.

Perhaps the best example; Elon and Donald.

I guarantee you Donald will HATE Elon before 3 months has passed

brianwilcox.bsky.social•170 days ago

I'm not sure even this collection of cowardly Senate Republicans is willing to hand the keys to government spending over to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.

But they've surprised me before. If senators don't have to worry about spending issues they can devote even more time to raising campaign funds.

darlenemcdonald.com•170 days ago

I will not click a link that starts with, WashingtonPost.

itsamichellething.bsky.social•170 days ago

I truly have no idea how to proceed as a random American grandma working my full time job and trying to stay sane. Do I look away and try to survive? Do I root for such a level of chaos that we as a country snap out of this asap? Do I try to get my kids out of the US? Help!

heyjayblue.bsky.social•170 days ago

I’m with you. Older mom, husband and grown daughter working on her masters living at home. We are getting our passports. Just in case. We’ve never had a fascist takeover before so no one knows what to say. The way Heritage Foundation wants the Handmaidens Tale scares the bejeezsus out of me.

liesldawnb.bsky.social•170 days ago

We have four grown kids (five counting daughter-in-law) and two grandkids, and the logistics of getting us all out of this country and thriving in another one is DAUNTING!

itsamichellething.bsky.social•170 days ago

Yep. Like how even would one or a dozen people go about that? This is the worst timeline.

lauracovington.bsky.social•170 days ago

I feel this

itsamichellething.bsky.social•170 days ago

Update: I went onto the Indivisible Call tonight and think that might be my only real option right now.

blaketopia.bsky.social•170 days ago

What did you learn from it? I could not attend.

itsamichellething.bsky.social•170 days ago

Follow them here on Bluesky. Watch their video (on YouTube) when you have time. It lays out the strategy for going forward for the next 2-4 years. I also downloaded the written guide which has more details. Get local. Get to work.

blaketopia.bsky.social•170 days ago

Thanks. Appreciate it!

cookiejake.bsky.social•170 days ago

They will absolutely try it. The depths at which they are willing to sink will shock us all I’m afraid. We should have known this when Leon bought Twitter for $4b to get his way. We never should have, as a nation, gotten into bed with a public figure as cancerous as this.

kattbleu.bsky.social•170 days ago

I don't understand how this isn't a conflict of interest. Doesn't he have federal contracts? I realize it doesn't matter to Trump but why is no one else wondering this? Maybe he doesn't have fed contracts? Just need that cleared up.

chopper77.bsky.social•170 days ago

Don't start with the rage baiting.

stbrnoldfrt.bsky.social•170 days ago

Congress has, willingly or unwittingly, been ceding power to the WH for decades. Nearly every time they need to address an unpopular issue they slough it off in order to avoid angering their constituents. #Cowards

dawsonsc.bsky.social•170 days ago

It means THEY ABSOLUTELY WILL.

amardguru.bsky.social•170 days ago

So, now Trump will pull out his Sharpie and "delete" the constitutional clause that gives Congress the power of the purse, i.e., the right to approve budgets.

sayhere1st.bsky.social•170 days ago

Line item veto is still illegal per scotus.

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