And so what I think is a kind of middle of the road scenario, is something like Italy after Berlusconi and the UK after Brexit. There’s no single clap cataclysm and the country and its institutions still exist and (kinda) function, but it’s just poor and weaker and worse off.
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Maybe distinction w/out difference in practice, in terms of long term. If we malaise through trump but next guy is harder edged
Simply bc the Tea Party lied thru their teeth about the ACA & by stirring the flames of racism against President Obama... WITHOUT ANYONE being catastrophically hurt, on the contrary.
Hardship usually galvanizes the followers. For them, it will be a righteous struggle that any true patriot would happily endure because Dear Leader has said it’s the only way to make America great again.
Those are the voters who will flip back when the sucky reality of Trump 2.0 sets in.
Sometimes I overly-focus on the intense MAGA base—probably for obvious reasons—but you’re absolutely right about that.
When low info, politics averse people get hurt, Dems might win.
And on the other side I can’t imagine a mass movement that the left doesn’t hate. If it’s big enough to matter it’ll have to appeal to normie center right people.
I take solace in the fact that two of my favorite commentators are talking to each other on BlueSky.
When are you having @brianklaas.bsky.social on All In to talk about Fluke @chrislhayes.bsky.social? Please?
It's going to get difficult for them I suspect when the travel
They will not be welcome
I'd bet on quite a few fights breaking out on cruise ships for example
Trump supporters have been trained to believe whatever they are told.
In Trump's 1st term, he repeatedly stressed the importance of job creation; this was completely absent from his 2024 campaign. His supporters learnt not to think about it.
Millions of (brainwashed) Trump supporters currently think that he's doing a marvellous job, and they'll keep thinking that.
How do you come back from a situation in which half the politicians in power are actively abetting destroying the government? Especially if they “lose” just because of an election in which control of 1 house flips.
Either there’s a disaster that destroys the party -
It’s practically impossible to reform our constitution, but that’s what’s needed, so there will be no relief on that end,
Italy rewrote its constitution in 1948.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
But when you live in a right-wing echo chamber that keeps you insulated from facts, the only thing that will break through is personal suffering.
In this house, we have been calling it the Great Culling. It is coming and scary AF.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:q3idlfqnmy2ue2fitw2akbrr/post/3ljlh5mbs2c2f
Project 2025 is a six-month plan. This means that the 2026 election will be rigged if we don't stop them NOW.
In the UK the latest poll shows that even the RW Farage supporters now despise Trump
I feel for them, in the same way I feel for Germans who went travelling post WWII.
They didn’t stop it before it spread, Americans have some time I guess 🤷🏻♂️
It's threatening a Commonwealth country in Canada
I'd bet we aren't far from American's not welcome signs going up
Sounds extreme but people will want to back at Trump & Vance
Now that damage is being done, I expect hostility. Can’t blame them.
People just see that Americans knew what Trump was like and still voted him back
The reporting in Europe is that he won a landslide although he didn't
The Ukraine & Canada rubbish isn't going to go unanswered by ordinary people coming across Americans
This time it's very different
Now he is/we are a direct threat.
I think a catastrophic weather event may also be a game changer
When folks in rural and red states-who carry the brunt of hurricanes and tornados-can’t get FEMA assistance and ins. doesn’t pay they will find out!
First the farmers
Then vets
Then Medicaid
Then MAGA
Dominos.
Protests will just result in major law enforcement.
Or Hiroshima 1945, if things get *really* bad.
America' exceptionalism has never been something that prevents us from doing evil, and now most decent human beings and their countries have all the reasons they need to turn on us.
Things are very chaotic, and he has nothing to worry about: The Supreme Court declared that a President can't be held accountable!
I'd rather see the Blue states split off and join Canada.
But here we are. And we're not in a bar or a college dorm, but discussing it out in the open.
If we hit a recession worse than the Great Depression, we'll see it. Add another pandemic to that and...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-death-stalin-180965119/
We didn’t get a vote in November.
Proximity means we’re linked to you for better or worse… best case is that it leads us to stronger ties with Europe, the Pacific Rim and S America.
#ElbowsUp
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