With enough data, we could probably figure out exactly who the world is waiting for to die of old age so that we can finally talk about all the awful shit that they were possibly only slightly complicit in... and maybe, I dunno, help them along a bit?
Sadly this is aptly describing so many issues today and the way powers that be refuse to take the appropriate action or hold anyone accountable especially if the baddies are their friends. That book should just be a diary, or date book for 2025. Pick a day, any day.
I was living in fascist Portugal. Most of the people shut up. There was some opposition, some favorable to the regime, but most of the people simply tried to survive. Then the Carnation Revolution of 1974 happened. Next day, absolutely everybody was anti fascist and had always been.
I'm beinging to think hitler wasn't that charismatic at all...
"oh gosh, sure he was evil, but clearly, the reasonable people of the world were just so dazzled by his incredible charm... by the time it was TOO obvious, it was also too late. Could have happened to anyone... really... Not our fault!
That's fine; That specific context doesn't change my reply, which simply expanded on how we repaint these things in hindsight to soothe our own wounds. Wether it's the assholes who started it, or the weak men who didn't stop it.
And someday, their grandkids will find the box full of their MAGA uniforms — the hats, the flags, the gold diapers and ear bandages. And they'll know with a chill in their heart exactly where Grandpa and grandma stood in this destruction of America.
I wonder about this, because social media preserves so much. I think it'll be more a case of them realising what the red hats they were wearing *meant*, rather than just remembering what they looked like.
Kinda like when you realise what your grandma's golly doll is actually supposed to be.
The difference between then and now is that the maga folks have all proudly plastered every inch of their social media and history with pro trump nonsense.
Exactly. The Internet is far from perfect, but an undeniably good thing about it is that once something is on, it will always be on no matter what. Nazis could hide themselves pre-Internet, but now we can always remember exactly who was who (even if we might not the able to hold all accountable).
It is, when you consider it as an example of collective memory loss for people who don't want to remember that they were once die-hard supporters of an administration & political agenda that they now reject.
I remember when George Bush Jr got us into the longest war. 3 years after that it was hard to find anyone who is willing to admit that they voted for him
Yep! Had a family member that shouted from the rooftops about "that wonderful family" until her grandson enlisted and was sent over then "voted for Gore and begged people to listen". No, you don't get to rewrite history, Auntie. Don't you fucking dare even try.
I was in Italy after that election and as soon as anyone recognized me as an American, they would immediately rush up to me and ask me what I thought of GW and if I voted for him.
People who don’t value and strive to preserve human life equally; those perpetrating the violence and those turning an uncaring back on it doing nothing.
Sounds like something Voltaire would have said. If you’re not familiar with his thinkers look him up he was correct in his thinking.
Then try William Butler Yeats, “ The Second Coming “ frighteningly true for our time
I can go on record now, I’ll call this US administration traitors. Trump et al are working hard to dismantle our democracy and throw out our Constitution.
Agree. His behavior in only a month is treasonous and seditionist. Waiting for Congress to wake the hell up and IMPEACH him again. Maybe 3rd time will be the charm.
I’m asking in response to you because I googled the author and found limited information and you seem to also only provide limited information. I responded based on the available context.
Do you know where I could find more information about this quote that was image-posted completely without context leaving anyone who came across it to interpret it as they liked.
Important to remember: one day people may be able to say they were against it, but that stink will never wash off. And we will have far more proof of people being complicit.
Three or four years ago, I spotted what I thought of as an unlikely, but non-zero probability that I might outlive the promised Social Security income. Not Social Security as a program, but a US to pay it. Probability keeps creeping upward.
When your solution to “so much of the country seems broken” is to break it faster, rather than trying to reform it, it’s difficult to see how it doesn’t collapse into chaos and Northern Ireland-like polarization and violence.
I just listed to the audiobook “the rise and fall of the third reich” for 57 hours on my forced daily commute. So I’m good for a while. I will bookmark it for later though. Thanks.
Damage will be massive and permanent and have unexpected consequences far and wide.
I know lots of immigrants and some of them don’t end up much better off (not talking about refugees), but their children do. I know former college professors working in construction/hospitality.
But they do it for their kids. That’s the real reason I applied for 🇵🇹 residency.
It's true from a historical lens, but it can't be compared exactly to our situation. The worst hasn't come yet. We still have a chance, & we need to be taking it to speak directly to the masses after the right has left so many struggling so quickly. They've given us an opportunity to undermine them.
Keeping an accounting matters. When the muskrat and lil t go the way all tyrants go we need to call by name all those who aided and abetted them. They will try to remain in their political positions and claim ignorance and we will need to hold them accountable.
You think you’ve replied with some kinds gotchya but that’s literally quite possible had anyone less of an ardent Zionist than Biden been in the WH because that also means Blinken May never have ascended to SecState.
Not even sure what Whataboutism is, but every time somebody has said that to me, it is because they either can't or don't want to answer a question. To me, it's a cop-out.
I agree with his sentiment. I'm just saying why blame it on one political party or another? The USA is committed to supporting Israel regardless of who is in power.
Alrighty then, I can tuck and roll. So "thank You Joe!! You will be a cherished treasure forever!!" There will be legends and songs and records of all the good you have done and brung. We owe Joe for his sacrifices and service!! Some day everyone will know!!💖🤣
As I kind of demonstrated with my lack of understanding, I guess that simply wasn't made clear enough to me and could have been interpreted in many different ways as you saw. I'm sorry I offended you. That was not my intent.☮️
It would be nice. But what happened in the United States after the Civil War, was that the losers were allowed to live to plot. And in 1877, they succeeded in winning back full control of their territory. And when they lost again in 1964 they began plotting for this moment.
In a way it is. The first book published about ACW was about the 'Lost Cause' in 1866, a rewrite of causes and history of the war.
The precedent was set for discrediting history with an alternative version. We became accustomed to news/alternative news.
It's now an artform well utilized by Putin.
I now understand in the context of the book it's about Gaza. But if you took that quote alone it would fit quite well regarding the rise of authoritarianism in the US and the politicians and citizens who are facilitating it. The rise of any authoritarian regime in fact.
The Democrats have blood on their hands for certain. I still believe, perhaps naively, that there was a chance for at least a better resolution with Harris than any that will be carried out under Trump. Now we get to see. Insisting Palestinians leave Gaza doesn't inspire hope.
That's why so many Americans are bravely protesting on the internet. They're all cowards who have been voting for this reality their whole lives. The myth of the "good American" will replace the "good German" soon.
Sorry, but I still want him to go as slowly and painfully as possible. Hopefully, it’ll be a stroke that leaves him aware of things around him but unable to speak.
So true. I am already having difficulty finding fools who voted for the Orange Idiot - and I live in a state he "won" with over 64% of the popular vote....
alt text: One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.
Makes me think of the Iraq War, the torture programs, opposition to marriage equality, legalization of marijuana.
In the years to come as things get bad, everyone will have been a hardcore climate warrior.
ZioNazi Trump wants to make Gaza into a Trumptown theme park, if God were real he would have sent Herr Fuhrer Schitler Trumpf to meet his real Dad Satan a long time ago.
That's why we need to make every member of Cong make a choice about where they stand - in writing, to the people whose vote they need in 2026. No Trump protection when they leave or disagree with him. Even once. Suddenly the "j6 hostages" look scary standing outside your house - fully armed.
Alt text: book Designed so that you read “One day, when it's safe, everyone will have always been against this” then “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this”.
Where we can expect to see maga people pretending they were fleeced into this and the only thing that revealed the truth was that their attempt to seize power failed
My German grandparents were Social-Democrats before and after the Nazis had power. When Nazis controlled everything, every government employee had to be a member of the Nazi Party. My Opa was a teacher.
Fascists don't tolerate dissent or other opinions.
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My mother's (Jewish) dentist was taken by the SS. A few days later they came back and told her he had died of the flu and if she said anything else they'd be back for her and her 3 children.
A Jewish neighbor family disappeared one night, never to be seen again and were replaced w SS family.
2/
My mother was working as a nanny/maid in south Germany. When the war ended, she headed north to go home. A one week trip turned into over three weeks.
I looked at a map of the routes she would have taken.
I think she was conscripted to bury the dead at a camp on her way home.
3/
After the war, Germans had to be vetted by the Allies. Until they were cleared as 'non-cooperating' in 1947, they could only do manual labor. My Opa was disabled from injuries received in WW1 so couldn't work or teach.
Unless you were a target for Nazis you were a bystander, witness or perpetrator.
Yep! Just the way everyone is today against the Iraq war. But not as much as those of us who took abuse marching in protest back in the day. Glad the others have seen the light ... now, let's see if they choose the right path today.
Here here! I got called names and/or was told I didn't know what I was talking about by people on both "sides" when I openly contested the WMD bullshit.
G.W. later, "I was lied too". *Headpats* Sure bubby, sure you were.
Agree, the degree of demonizing that went on then was off the charts. The media totally failed, with some exceptions, e.g. Mary Mapes and Dan Rather. Colin Powell's claims at the UN didn't stand up, he ruined his reputation. Hans Blix was an utter coward, he knew it was all lies.
What they are doing isn't business. 1+1 doesn't =3.
Americans are witnessing a malevolent force changing the very essence of what is America and what is an American. Mindful the brains of the opp are white South Africans. That should scare the crap out of all Americans.
My family on the German side really liked the American Bund in 1939. And now they act like that didn’t happen. My dad was a lot of things bad, but he was a veteran who suited up for World War II against the Japanese unlike those other turds in the family at the time.
Praise the ones who publicly resist. For the others, read a few books about China, Nazi Germany and then let their plight stew for a while before you judge
I feel like today there's such a big social media record that it's impossible for people to hide not being a Magzi. But I suppose that too could be purged.
I RAGED against the Iraq war and noted all the people supporting it. Many, if not most, are still walking around today and never supported it. I remember. They were.
The WMD scam was my first exposure to an administration outright lying to its people. I was shocked how many people bought it blindly. Certainly a precursor to today.
“Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.” ~ Budah-ish
In the opening sequence to the film “The Gorge,” Anya Taylor-Joy’s character Drasa shows how we should deal with oligarchs.
Republicans and Republican voters should be put on record: either 1) you approve of what’s going down, or 2) you didn’t see it coming. What other choice is there?
This person should not be involved in democratic self-government in any capacity.
i feel like all of us on bluesky know and agree and preaching to the choir. we need to reach the people that need to hear this. went back on fb jus to post this.
I told people I will remind their great grandkids what they stood for today. Most of the time they respond by looking like they ate a frog-it’s like some of these elders are obsessed with a legacy in the hope we won’t talk ill of the dead
Exactly…almost like everyone will want to be on the then winning side and we’re once the enemy of the people! Hopefully the ones on the right will go back under the rocks where they came from!
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"Well rest assured we were always right."
Now's not exactly time for an "I told you so."
Like, right now? We're just being overly dramatic and calling wolf for nonsenses...
They’re gonna hate me but that’s a small price to pay.
"oh gosh, sure he was evil, but clearly, the reasonable people of the world were just so dazzled by his incredible charm... by the time it was TOO obvious, it was also too late. Could have happened to anyone... really... Not our fault!
Kinda like when you realise what your grandma's golly doll is actually supposed to be.
They won't be able to erase the stink.
The same may apply to Trumpism as you put it but that is not what it is actually about.
Me: but u had been the biggest cheerleaders for all that...?
MAGA: denial
Me: so you're saying u supported Gore, Kerry back then?
MAGA: (silence)
These are the 14 words Musk was referring to: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
This is a well known white supremist slogan.
Then try William Butler Yeats, “ The Second Coming “ frighteningly true for our time
I also began by explaining the quote.
You're on your own now.
Good luck.
Thanks for pointing out that the context in-situ was wrong.
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Right now maga owns the everything: WH, Senate, House, FBI, and the Court of Clarence
Worse, MAGA exists at every level of govt, from City Councils and up
We just might be looking at the end of the American Empire
I applied for Portuguese permanent residency two years ago foreseeing this as a real potential outcome.
I had hoped the probability was small, but the outcome will be catastrophic. 🥺
Starting to wonder if I should consider the United States as well.
If you want to dig deeper, read “From Mussolini To Present” by Ruth Ben Ghiat.
A fantastic look at the rise and fall of 20th/21st century dictators
BUT … how much damage will they do before the collapse? I’m 71; this shit will outlast me I fear.
Damage will be massive and permanent and have unexpected consequences far and wide.
But they do it for their kids. That’s the real reason I applied for 🇵🇹 residency.
Whataboutism is a gross form of genocide apologia. Maybe reflect on that.
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Genocide is always bad.
The people who actually enact it while in power should be critiqued.
If you find this controversial, that's something to look into.
Other times, congressional Dems fully endorsed illegally supplying the same aid.
That's bad of them.
It's okay to say, specifically, that this was bad.
Such a freaking traitor with the face of a wet scab
They never change sides.
The precedent was set for discrediting history with an alternative version. We became accustomed to news/alternative news.
It's now an artform well utilized by Putin.
When this ends, and it will, those who supported it will get what they’ve got coming to them.
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In the years to come as things get bad, everyone will have been a hardcore climate warrior.
This is about what has been happening in Gaza for over a year, long before Trump was reelected.
Especially the ones in the pivotal demographics that spun for Trump and fascism.
Imagine being so clueless that you're part of the demographic that white Americans have hated for decades, and believing you had a place at the table.
How's that working out now?
Worst parasite ever.
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On line activism is meaningless without actual physical protests 🪧
Pardon my French but, wtf is wrong with you guys?
Where is all the political counterpart????
We need someone to lead this movement asap!!!
We are headless&hopeless
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This is just my extrapolation of what I can see to the maga movement, but very cool and likeable of you to try and correct me erroneously lol.
Fascists don't tolerate dissent or other opinions.
1/
A Jewish neighbor family disappeared one night, never to be seen again and were replaced w SS family.
2/
I looked at a map of the routes she would have taken.
I think she was conscripted to bury the dead at a camp on her way home.
3/
Unless you were a target for Nazis you were a bystander, witness or perpetrator.
MAGA and the GOP are taking notes…
I will not let them forget.
One of the people who turned that blind eye was Joe Biden
G.W. later, "I was lied too". *Headpats* Sure bubby, sure you were.
Americans are witnessing a malevolent force changing the very essence of what is America and what is an American. Mindful the brains of the opp are white South Africans. That should scare the crap out of all Americans.
https://youtu.be/jRSw_0zpNE8?si=s4WRJyBqzt8e8L03
Message absolutely missed on first and second read. Caught in third but brain still wants two sentences not one run-on.
They will never be forgiven.
Just like the nazis in the 40’s
You would reach more people, when you add a good description into the Alt-text field.
That is pretty easy, especially, when your image just contain text.
This way, you support visually impaired people and everyone else, who rely on a good filled Alt-text.
#accessibility
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I saw a film that had an excellent suggestion about how to handle this:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/777485/one-day-everyone-will-have-always-been-against-this-by-omar-el-akkad/
In the opening sequence to the film “The Gorge,” Anya Taylor-Joy’s character Drasa shows how we should deal with oligarchs.
This person should not be involved in democratic self-government in any capacity.
That’s the context by which the quote will be read—at least by American readers. (Apologies to those for whom this situation is not germane.)
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