If you are not ignorant of history then you can and must shape your present to take the next generation forward into a better future.
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My issue is you can kinda just rearrange it and it still works. Hate leads to anger, hate leads to fear, fear leads to hate, anger leads to suffering, suffering leads to anger, etc
Sometimes I feel bad that a well meaning nerd tried to spoonfeed the dangers of imperialism (i gotta take from them or else they'll take from me first) to a bunch of people and all they got from it was "lol light up swords" but then I remember he's got buckets of money so I'm sure he's fine lol
The root of those things is fear. The base emotion is that the unknown is a danger; be it "will this person take my stuff" "will this person hurt me or my family"; the frustration of having to live in that environment leads to anger, hatred is the result. Hate doesn't just spring from nothing.
True that fear is almost always the root but I do feel like you can shuffle around the others quite a bit. Like hating someone can lead to anger, but having anger towards someone can also lead to hate because they're pretty dang close.
I recently watched the holiday special again, and its depiction of fascism was surprisingly spot-on. I actually felt sorry for those annoying fur balls. And Bea Arthur.
I've said it before, Lucas is a fine writer, but like most of the best writers out there he really depends on an editor. Innthe early films he was busy making the films happen, his big ideas passed through the minds of other brilliant creative, and we got 3 brilliant films. The ne t three films.
George Lucas has good ideas, he just needs to let other talented people fill in for his shortcomings. I don't think he can handle everything equally well. Dialogue, for example.
Genuinely amazing how you can follow Palpatines plot from Phantom Menace to Revenge of the Sith and easily compare the politics there to real life… even the modern stuff points out that just cause you beat the Emperor his sympathizers still scheme.
We should probably not take our notes from a guy who says the future of governance is either empire or a regime of mind-reading religious police who can change your thoughts.
Well they cheered in Germany in the 1930s. So, it’s a pretty deft and accurate observation. That he put it in a giant cultural mechanism is genius. If only we heed it.
No they didn’t, most anyway… read rise and fall of the third reich. I did. Most Germans didn’t want fascism but they had no power to do anything about it
The Nazi Party won only 37 percent of the vote, then lost votes in the next election. Hindenburg made Hitler chancellor precisely because he was weak and unpopular, and Hindenburg thought he wasn’t much of a threat.
It took me a good 25 years to appreciate that George Lucas could write some genius story arcs AND some genius dialog AND be equally responsible for some truly terrible dialog, and useless potty humor, and some inane subplots.
Honestly the thing that fucked me up the most was that a Kindergartner was racing in a death match and his moms is like OK, I guess we have no choice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Also the characters who may or may not have been racist caricatures but were at the very least, racist caricature adjacent.
Man knew his metaphors and social critique. Can't wait for Trump's Order 66 to begin and turn all the brainwashed military and law enforcement on people just trying to live.
Which leads to my theory that he had uncredited help with the Sith script. There's a lot of filler, but what's there (Obi-Wan/Anakin, Mace/Palpatine, Padme/Anakin) is great.
I have never seen or heard this, but sure enough, it's on his Wikipedia page. Not sure why Lucas couldn't give him some on-screen credit, though I imagine it was just ego.
Going back and rewatching the original trilogy, it's amazing all of the questionable stuff in there.
* "I used to bullseye wamprats in my T-16 back home."
* Chewbacca gets no medal
* "You look strong enough to pull the ears off a gandar."
Yet everyone is always dissing on the prequels?
My hatred for the prequels was for the bad and awkward dialogue for the most part. The visuals and general plot were well done. I kept rewriting most of the dialogue in my head while watching the films.
The prequels (especially episode 2) were always going to get a mixed reaction at best. It's hard to root for a guy in one scene then find out he slaughtered a village down to the last child and then be expected to be happy that the female lead is in love with him shortly after. It's not for everyone
Even as an Xer/Original Trilogy fan, I must say the prequels look better by the day. At the time, the "liberty dies" line obviously referenced W's post-9/11 excesses. But it does look even more astute in '24, as does the prequels' clear story arc for Anakin. Rey utterly lacked that in the sequels.
Well SW WAS explicitly about Nixon and Vietnam. And ROTS WAS written explicitly about GWB and the “War On Terror”. He was very literal. Ironically Natalie is very much pro-genocide. She doesn’t believe in liberty for the people of Palestine.
Naw, that would be Mike Johnson.
GQP also has Foghorn Leghorn in Sen. Kennedy of LA, who looks like a Ln old grandmother wearing way too much rouge on his cheeks.
I’d like to point out that in spite of the dialogue baloney palpatine is written so well, it’s such god damn genius people blame everyone but him for Anakins fall. People will cuss out the Jedi in thousand word essays and not once mention that anakin was groomed his whole life by space Hitler.
I think they had a few exceptional moments among a lot of average and a decent chunk of really poor/dull. Rewatched them recently and there really is some long sections that I had forgotten even happened they were so pointless
On 26 October, 2001, the US Congress granted extremely broad powers to the government from the military and to civilian police. It's the reason that police have MRAPs, it's the reason Guantanamo exists as it does. It's the reason for mass surveillance.
It was the Reichstag Fire Act for our age.
Wait really? That's so cool! I wish she was here now, I'd love to follow her take on everything going on. Its depressing but I think she's add some levity and wit to it
I think it's kinda only rumors in regards to Fischer, but it actually has been confirmed that Tom Stoppard did a pass on Sith. Why Lucas wouldn't just let one of the greatest living dramatists write the whole thing is certainly a fuckin mystery
I DO know that she's said she agreed to do the DVD commentaries for the original trilogy but made Lucas give her a copy of the Holiday Special. She said she would put it on at social gatherings she hosted when she was ready for everyone to leave 🤣🤣🤣
For all the clunky dialogue and over saturated cgi, the Prequel trilogy was always a brilliant exploration of a nation falling to fascism, and a clear product of an artist living under the Bush regime. Despite my misgivings in other areas, I’ve always respected them for that.
Yeh, a lot of stuff in the Star Wars prequel trilogy... well, it was commenting on politics at the time, but it's somehow become better for the politics of now... which really isn't a good thing. You just look at the Republic becoming the Empire and... good god.
George Lucas once said in an interview that he based Palatine's rise to power and the empire's actions on Richard Nixon and America during Vietnam, respectively. It's really only the imperial iconography that comes from WWII
George has always had some real bangers and some real goofy shit, the problem with the PT will always be the unrestricted "creative vision" he had whereas the OT was made better by it's limitations and collaborations.
Honestly, I have a lot of respect for George Lucas' writing in the Star Wars Prequels. He was extremely prescient to outline the key ways in which a democracy can descend into a fascist dictatorship. We're witnessing that right now.
Yes I have lately caught myself thinking about Star Wars of all things. Fear is the path to the dark side of power. Yes that's unfortunately quite correct. The dark side will take power by playing good people against each other with made up crises. Umm, yep.
His writing was mostly fine except for some of the awkward romance and scenes that were left out. Prequel Hate is a narrative that was never as popular as some very loud people thought.
I said this the morning after the election. Then cried. But it's no longer a time for tears, but networking to help each other get through this living nightmare.
Clearly it was not a peaceful protest as trump has said multiple times. Who brings mace or bear spray to a demonstration? The intention to physically hurt and bodily harm was clear. It was not a peaceful demonstration!
The Prequels were, if nothing else, a masterclass in how fascism can take over a government through manipulation of personal and national fears (exploiting Anakin's love for Padme, exploiting both the CIS and the Republic's fear of it).
You're talking about how they create a narrative blaming liberals, communists, socialists, and intellectuals for the civil unrest they themselves had been stoking. Then, they took advantage of their capital building burning to declare martial law. to strip them all of power and send them to camps.
The prequel trilogy is literally about someone taking power like the orange man did and turning a democracy into a fascist dictatorship.
If anything, Lucas warned us all
That’s always one of the real odd things with the Star Wars prequels. There’s some great talent there, Portman being one of the best of them, and yet they come off so flat for most of the series.
There’s a test scene with Portman and Christensen somewhere on the DVD extras, and in that scene read those two had a fire and chemistry that was amazing. If that same energy had been in the final version, the romance stuff would have worked so much better.
“We must keep our faith in the Republic. The day we stop believing democracy can work is the day we lose it.” — Queen Jamillia, “Star Wars: Attack of the Clones”.
"Too late for what? The Republic to fall?! It already has, and you just can't see it! There's no justice! No law! No Order! Except for the one that will replace it!" -Maul
Not an exact response, but I feel like this fits...
I have always appreciated it ,even more today apart from a few dodgy characters and script bloopers. I thought Padme said this is where democracy dies? Could be completely wrong.
Imo George wrote Anakin perfectly. He was a former slave and grew up in a cult that taught suppressing emotions was the utmost goal to reach a sort of enlightenment of course he's gonna be awkward
yeah - so then we get a pen and every time they write something down it cuts into their hand! We'll call it the Trump pen and make liberals write lines until they convert!
"Black Panther" outright celebrates it. A technologically advanced superpower run by a patriarchal hereditary monarch with supreme executive power. Comic books and their movie equivalents just seem to love their benevolent dictators.
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Ignorance leads to fear.
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It's a bit of a synonym soup!
The part that people consider bad writing is the stuff between said banger lines
It is like the plot in a porno or a Fast/Furious movie (ignore I effectively said "porno" twice)
We still have a chance to keep freedom. But it now requires ACTION.
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper
Sounds like Merrick Garland, or even Joe Biden!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1FFVWEQnSM
Also the characters who may or may not have been racist caricatures but were at the very least, racist caricature adjacent.
- He and his mother were slaves who chose to help people in trouble out of the kindness of their hearts.
- If people have varying answers as to what race a character is a racist caricature of, then it isn't racist.
There is a decent story buried under all the chaff of parts 1-3. Lucas would have just needed someone to tell him (And Lucas to listen) that...
Examples: Gary Kurtz in the Original Trilogy, Dave Filoni with Clone Wars, Spielberg with Indiana Jones.
All great minds who made George's ideas work.
* "I used to bullseye wamprats in my T-16 back home."
* Chewbacca gets no medal
* "You look strong enough to pull the ears off a gandar."
Yet everyone is always dissing on the prequels?
Despite the fact that the Rebels are subtext for the Vietnamese fighting a guerilla war against the big bad American Empire.
Now I realize that George Lucas is a prophet and we all owe him a fucking apology.
GQP also has Foghorn Leghorn in Sen. Kennedy of LA, who looks like a Ln old grandmother wearing way too much rouge on his cheeks.
padme, already a target of assassination attempts, is steadfast in her belief that she can work through the system to save it
she's doing everything she can within the bounds of the law
knowing she will fail is heartbreaking and infuriating
Also the important part is he was writing about the PATRIOT Act. This fascism shit isn't new. We've let it continue festering.
It was the Reichstag Fire Act for our age.
Which is a dumb complaint
The GOP is full of willing participants.
https://youtu.be/4rmnO46iKrw?feature=shared
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Americans are so fucking dumb, they just voted for tyranny. Well not all of them, but enough.
I respect the actual fascists for their honesty, it’s the dumb fuck shoulder shruggers that I can’t abide.
If anything, Lucas warned us all
It must have been per direction, right?
Not an exact response, but I feel like this fits...
"The day we stop believing in democracy is the day we lose it" goes similarly hard.
But good line.
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