Seems so obvious that they should have avoided messaging on a social media app without the warning🤦🏼♀️ this is the same app that Jan 6ers got busted with at the capital. A bunch of incompetent idiots seem to be using that app
Yep & thank you for bringing that back up.People think that nothings going to happen theres at least 3 people that's going to get fired and hopefully held accountable if not now definitely in the future. Hegseth, Gabbard and Ratcliffe those are the three that are definitely going to get s*** canned
But,her emails. Remember that? This fool, who is supposed to be in charge made an idiotic oversight, and he is still in office. He needs to be fired today.
Hegseth deserves the extreme backlash. But let us not overlook the root: He is a symptom, a pathological manifestation of Trump. Same has to be said of the entire cabinet. Trump warned of an "internal enemy" (not China or Russia). We know understand this: it is Trump and his hand-picked snipers!
The dark political pathology is real. Trumpism=political sickness and danger.We face the combination of rage, despair, nausea, violation, and betrayal that Trump and his Ship of Fools are carrying out. National destruction is underway. We must find/fight a way to arrest this political destruction.
To be clear, this is not a new threat vector, its one we have known about for a long time and disabling linked devices is part of the default setup routine for anybody who knows what they are doing, the worst part is they are using insecure devices anyway so Signal vulns are irrelevant anyway
Sounds about right ..when the Pentagon, women and bartenders say no to this guy, he hears “I’ll do whatever the eff I want”. Let’s see his mommy spin this one about her poor, misunderstood punk of a son.
This term, "Cut & Paste", is Especially Worrisome.
Unless this #Hegseth person Retyped those "Targeting Packages" into that Disappearing Messages app "Signal", it meant the Device he was chatting on, was connected to BOTH the Targeting Package 'Source Program' AND the Signal chat app.
Ask a 14 year old. Of course it is not secure... that is why we spend money on secure rooms for communication. These people new it, they are lazy and arrogant and foolish... no other excuse.
Since the compromised text happened on March 15th, my guess is Kegseth realized what happened and put out that warning to try and cover his tracks because the story hadn't come out yet. These people are idiots.
Thanks for this. You can just about hear the eager entitled white male voices of rowdy frat boys: "But Mom...I'll be CAREFUL. We'll be FINE. NSA's an old fuddy-duddy. WE know what we're DOing. Everything's OK. Our buddy Elon knows all about computers and apps and stuff."
Remember when GW Bush was told in early August 2001 that Osama bin Laden was prepping to attack America by way of hijacked airplanes and he chuckled his smug chuckle and ignored the warning? And when Reagan was warned of the Beirut bombing a few days before it but did nothing?
It’s important to note that the “vulnerability” here is from phishing scams by Russians, which does not indicate a vulnerability in the software, just that Russians are targeting signal users to try and trick them into releasing access info.
It is, and yes this does increase the risk on an app these dumb bastards shouldn’t have been using to begin with, but I see folks acting like it was a flaw in Signal code that let a friggin Atlantic reporter into the chat, and not colossal human stupidity.
I wasn’t one of them. I use signal. Everyone on a group chat sees when someone is added (& who that someone is) & when someone leaves the chat. The massive concern here is incompetent, utterly indifferent officials using a commercially available app to discuss war plans and classified information.
there is really only one conclusion, Hegseth was deliberately sharing Yemeni attack information with Putin over Signal. the only real question is who leaked the chat and why
Isn't it fairly obvious at this point that this was an intentional leak from the inside? Between that warning going out (unheeded) the week prior and the strategic choice of who was added (Legacy media, Left enough to act on it, but restrained enough they'd treat the info with caution). No Oops here
Oh I agree they don't care...about anything except their piles of money 🤑...
But the identity of the supposedly random recipient? It was too perfect. Shit like that just isn't accidental. Unless there really is a divine hand of providence 😝
If some one does something intentional to expose the administration. I think the obvious answer is they're not 100% loyal. Or their trying to get someone fired.
I see your angle now. hmmm, they all equally guilty here of numerous security violations. Is one person more guilty than the others? I don't see it, Walz might be the most junior of the seniors and he supposedly invited the wrong person but, he can't be the most responsible. Who is? Trump.
Some people lose their keys. Some people accidentally reply-all on an office email. And then there’s Pete Hegseth, who, in what may go down as the most spectacular military blunder since someone thought a land war in Afghanistan was a good idea. https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/pete-hegseths-signal-chat-disaster
Add to it: 1) trump said he didn’t know this. The CEO not knowing what his staff is doing? Incompetence!
2) one of the group was in Moscow. Waiting for
💩tin. Did he really think he could just Signal away?
That’s huge incompetence!
Oh that warning probably got accidentally put in his “how to rape women while you’re drunk” folder……..oh wait my mistake he would have definitely read it if it ended up there!!!
Oh but oh but oh but...Fox says the whole thing was "a hoax perpetrated by a trump hating reporter". THE ODIOCY OF THESE PEOPLE! And every viewer will believe it.
I fail to see how this makes the Trump team look any better.
Even it it was a scheming infiltrator, this just demonstrates their incompetence and lack of professionalism...at the top of our government.
They knew the risks of using Signal. They ignored those risks so they could be sure their conversation would be automatically erased. They wanted no accountability if the strike went badly and killed innocent civilians.
I’m hoping that the one positive thing to come out of this colossal fuckup is that we ALL now know that they are not operating in officials channels. Hopefully, this will force them into official channels to avoid scrutiny, and thus, slowing down any anti USA planning that they’ve been doing.
Correct- The Pentagon message said “Russian professional hacking groups are employing the 'linked devices' features to spy on encrypted conversations." It notes that Google has identified Russian hacking groups who are "targeting Signal Messenger to spy on persons of interest."
The actual for warning about using Signal attached below.
Knowing this I now wonder if the Traitors in Trumps Admin purposely used Signal with the intent of Russia seeing it, and gave Russia the chat time in advance of the chat.
Anybody that high up in gov't does not in fact typically read their email unless one of the team specifically directs them to. #PeteyHo has layers of admin aides & exec secretaries who route incoming email to the correct recipient, often not actually him. In this case, it probably got to him. 😆
This is exactly why they were using it and it’s crazy that it’s not a focal point right up there with them inviting a major journalist to their group chat. They are certainly communicating all of their plans in non-documented ways, totally free of future accountability.
Just saying, but if you want to backchannel with Moscow, skirt FOIA, and maintain a modicum of plausible deniability, you might set up just such a system...
what happened is like when you trust your teen to stay home by themselves when you take that quick trip and find out they had a wild party and tore up the house . take the keys away and start over .....
Yeah, but when you want the information you’re texting each other to disappear in a week or two what options do you have when you work for the government?
When you don’t want there to be a record of what you’re up to .
It requires reason to listen to advice. What I heard or read from the SoD or any other member of this administration is so far away from reasonable thinking that any advice will be wasted.
NPR ran this correction about the warning memo. “An earlier version of this story incorrectly said a recent Pentagon memo about Signal went out before the leak to a reporter in a chat about bombing Houthi sites in Yemen. The memo was distributed days after that leak.”
Who are you kidding. Using any outside service for that type of communication is a massive vulnerability.
How do you feel about the Project 2025 training video, advising them specifically to use 3rd party communication, so they can be extralegal while avoiding any records that can be subpoenaed.
Obviously the president of signal is going to defend signal’s security. Maybe try an unbiased source of information next time?
Or do you really believe “The president of the Signal Foundations insists that their secure messaging app is indeed perfectly secure, so it must be true” is logical?
The “vulnerability” being discussed here was a phishing technique that tricked people into adding others to their group chat. This is not what Whitaker did, btw, he just did it because he’s dumb. Signal is one of the most important tools we have right now, research it yourself (or your techy friend)
The code is there for everyone to see on Github. I don't trust individual people, but I do trust the assessment of practically the entirety of the cybersecurity community who have been examining its design and code for more than a decade.
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Probably because of this.
The bad news...
https://screenapp.io/transcriptio....
Unless this #Hegseth person Retyped those "Targeting Packages" into that Disappearing Messages app "Signal", it meant the Device he was chatting on, was connected to BOTH the Targeting Package 'Source Program' AND the Signal chat app.
Not Good.
nm
Congress hasn’t had it since
If the shoe was on the other foot, then the Dems would have been gone gone gone.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nsa-signal-app-vulnerabilities-before-houthi-strike-chat/
This is not a technical vulnerability at all.
Been there, drank that.
Awkward
But the identity of the supposedly random recipient? It was too perfect. Shit like that just isn't accidental. Unless there really is a divine hand of providence 😝
https://aiwillybillhuman.substack.com/p/pete-hegseths-signal-chat-disaster
2) one of the group was in Moscow. Waiting for
💩tin. Did he really think he could just Signal away?
That’s huge incompetence!
Even it it was a scheming infiltrator, this just demonstrates their incompetence and lack of professionalism...at the top of our government.
Oh wait, yes they will and they DGAF
The issue was the fact that they included a journalist in their group chat
That was the issue
No amount of further signal security would’ve prevented them from adding a journalist to their group chat
THIS was enter it’s MAGA error
Yet again
Someone is deliberately jeopardising the security of state information on the app
Tulsi probably
https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/russia-targeting-signal-messenger
February 19, 2025
Targeting Signal for cyber-espionage
GTIG's investigation revealed that Russian hackers have been exploiting Signal’s legitimate device-linking mechanism, which allows users to access their accounts across multiple devices
https://cyberinsider.com/russian-hackers-exploit-signals-linked-devices-to-spy-on-users/
It's happening again and again; when will we stop this regime???
https://apple.news/AMt0KaMCzSeuT46TZDS5w1Q
#trump et al just deliberately shared messages they couldn’t at a press conference
"Whatever you do, don't put a reporter,
without a security clearance, on
an unsecure war plans chat line."
Hegseth: "I already did."
Homer: "D'oh!"
Knowing this I now wonder if the Traitors in Trumps Admin purposely used Signal with the intent of Russia seeing it, and gave Russia the chat time in advance of the chat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-ambassador-told-moscow-that-kushner-wanted-secret-communications-channel-with-kremlin/2017/05/26/520a14b4-422d-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html
When you don’t want there to be a record of what you’re up to .
How do you feel about the Project 2025 training video, advising them specifically to use 3rd party communication, so they can be extralegal while avoiding any records that can be subpoenaed.
Or do you really believe “The president of the Signal Foundations insists that their secure messaging app is indeed perfectly secure, so it must be true” is logical?