too bad these tariffs aren't limited to FULL NEW products or they might have a vague point (though a very dumb point).
they also apply to needing replacement parts and all 3 of those listed items have consumer replaceable replacement parts. & any device insurance would go up with parts increases.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that the MAGA movement is a agenda pushed by the wealthy masquerading as a groundswell movement, because none of these ppl seem to know how the world works
If Obama created a 3% sales tax, conservatives would have Screamed like stuck pigs, but call it a tariff and let a republican president create it Unilaterally, it is all good.
My parents managed to save enough to buy a house a) while living in NYC, b) while both being underpaid parochrial school teachers, just in time to c) have two kids before age 30.
Coincidentally, there were high taxes on the rich, strong unions, and plenty of local newspapers at the time. Hmmm.
"You're supposed to be poor and miserable you peasants. Now shut up and give us all of your money so Trump can go fucking gold for the 15th day of his presidency so far."
Their owners aren't interested in capitalism anymore. They are seeking an end to their generational project of recreating old aristocracy. They are looting public money and gouging us all for necessities to create a caste system.
Jeez! What a fucking dufus! Is he doing this on Putin's orders or is he really a stupid old man with dementia... or both? That could be very good for our economy.
i agree that consumerism is bad, like what he’s saying in the first half, but people don’t care about the new game. people care about putting food on the table
You may not need those things, but there are people who need their job selling those things (employees of Apple, Best Buy, Costco, Amazon, Target, etc). And all the people depending on those people. And the truck drivers who deliver those things. On and on. Trickle down poverty.
we see how well they're doing with all that. All posturing. I'll be a shit person Monday-Saturday and just because I go to a building on Sunday I'm forgiven for it all.
And full disclosure, I identify as a Christian and follow the teachings not pervaded by politics and various isms. I don't know what "they" are, but it isn't Christians.
I used to be a Christian until I read the Bible & how it's all free will & gods will that women children POC & animals are tortured. Until I found out that god chose a man who broke every commandment to lead America. Until the preachers told me following Christ is anti American & anti Christian.
There are versions of the Bible *coughkingjamescough* that pervade the words. I won't say it's all great, and I agree with you on the next two. When money and power get involved, everything, even religion loses its purity I don't ever claim to be perfect but my golden rule is just be a good person
That doesn’t take into account all the things that will be impacted by tariffs. China (34% tariff),Vietnam (46%) and Bangladesh(37%) are the biggest makers of clothing sold in the US. Who pays?Consumers- on $40 x46% adds $18.40!So if you have four kids and you spend $40 on each kid it adds $74!
Now everyone who was a scientist during Covid is now also an economist and a Wall Street savant. Judas Priest! 🙄 So we now have a stumbling drunk stock market, rampant bird flu, and a massive measles outbreak. Some people just need to go back to “courting” their cousins.
I'm sorry. But these people are just plain stupid. Trumps decisions over the last few days are going to cripple the average American household and are likely to plunge the world into a recession not seen in our lifetime. More people will be homeless and destitute. No one cares about fucking iPhones
He's a nerd culture grifter who pees in his own basement cause his wife went out to get dinner without him. He gave pedophiles advice on hiding their CP before the feds show up to their doorstep and is already in debt of losing his "coffee" business
The you don’t ‘need’ you ‘want’ argument is odd - tariffs impact both. Whether I need or want something it will have affected me. Just with less detriment for a want. But still detriment.
Amazing how the MAGAts will bend and twist everything to defend tariffs and the stock market crashing and rising prices. Especially since they non stop bitched about the economy and the price of eggs. I can’t anymore with these people 🤦🏻♀️
Of course mgmt says “We believe that, once President Trump’s policies take full effect and automotive production is re-shored, we should be able to resume steel production at Dearborn" but fails to mention this could be YEARS
I saw it as an invitation for MAGAs to “suck it up” for the team. Weeks ago they were whining about Biden’s machinations over gas and egg prices. Now, belt-tightening and austerity are back on the menu. Trump and Elon are involved in the desertification of America.
But will you need a new car or air conditioner. Are you willing to pay more for groceries. How about going to the doctor or taking that medicine. This is going to hit everything. Not just the wants. It's going to hit the needs.
Pretty tough talk from The Quartering who can afford a Twitter Blue account to waste his whole day whinging about how the government isn't run how he'd like it to be...
besides their delusional mythmaking... have they ever? history suggests 'no' but decades of them just telling everyone they are 'good at economy' and 'good at business' means we have a generation of conservatives getting high off their own supply of rank demonstrable bullshit and legit believing it.
I’d like to give a great big fuck you to this person. All you have to do is look at your 401k, and you’ll see how it’s affecting you, and since when did anyone ask for a massive tax hike?
That guy is so dumb. Like, yes, I want cool shit. I want fun. I don't want politicians to stop me from having fun, cool shit just so they can get richer.
America, the land of opportunity, was built on not being able to get the things you *want*, only the things you *need*, right? Is that their sales pitch?
I don't think they understand that America doesn't grow coffee. (There is apparently some grown in Hawaii but it's not going to do the whole of the USA). Car parts included tires and exhaust pipes, and parts for brakes as these parts get old and need replaced on any car. It's not all about tech
We can’t afford Kona coffee already. Japan buys over 90% of Kona coffee at literally any price point and the remainder is consumed by Americans only because law prohibits exporting that last bit. Kona coffee sold for $45 per pound when I worked at a Barney’s in 2007~
I already have issues with chronic housing instability. If my Medicaid gets slashed... I could be years before I'm able to afford my own rent again, not until a change on government. T_T
They just went full circle and parked near communism. Shortages of items, "luxury" goods from abroad that are hard to get (aka smuggled), lines waiting to get eggs and other produce.
the wealthy love bragging about how much things cost and it reminds me of kings, queens and courtesans walking around wearing/eating/living opulence while their ‘subjects’ can’t afford shoes and beg for scraps of food, seems like this is what they want for us
Disgraceful!
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Not The Cuckening™ making himself look like a disingenuous hypocrite again. It's not like out of touch incel herders like him and nerdrotic have any real concept of life offline or the impact that sweeping tariffs can have on a trade-based economy.
No, I love Spanish, Italian, French wines. Freshly laid disease-free eggs, naturally raised cattle without growth promoters. My free healthcare, my country, our welfare society and our king. I'm sorry to say that the US has nothing that interests me. We have everything in the EU, we don't need Trump
Unfortunately, this is the lesson majority of Americans are learning in real time. The world went through this shit show before and they prepared themselves. Countries are finding ways to take care of themselves without the US. What is the incentive to come back when you found a stable solution?
Curiosity is one of the reasons why one would return. Not everything in the USA is bad, there is a lot of good music and other goods that are ok. But with the current president and his supporters, I would stick to what we have in the EU, Canada and Australia.
I love how they now say this but if you were to say “you don’t need a 2 ton tank to drive you around, you don’t need fast fashion, you don’t need to eat meat for every meal” to stop climate change they will start shrieking and screaming and crying about communism
It's an interesting approach. The tariffs haven't even been applied yet. But the people making a fuss haven't been affected yet so it's all a big nothing. Logic which could also have been applied the day after Pearl Harbor.
You do not need eggs, you don't need that new transmission you do not need to spend $500 a day on gas for your lake boat. You do not need a seventh AR15. You definitely do not need that job at whirlpool or stellantis.
People aren't worried about buying that stuff. They are worried about being able to afford FOOD and MEDICINE and the cars they need to get to work. I hope this assclown loses his job/business and ends up standing by the road with a cardboard sign, offering his bullshit hot takes for small change 🙄
Tarrifs are complicated. They do work in certain conditions and indeed we've had tarrifs in place during times of economic booms. Tarrifs are also bipartisan with many Democrats having implemented them or supporting them.
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But what trump is doing is grossly misusing tarrifs without a comprehensive plan to build up domestic manufacturing capacity. He's implementing them too quickly, too great in magnitude and on the wrong nations. He's implementing them across the board instead of in stages on select items
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So in short tarrifs are careful and complex economic control measures. Best analogy is they are like a medication: they have to be used carefully and sparingly, what trump is doing is taking all the pills all at once and ODing.
Well my 401k is short a useful amount of money, I can tell you that. I do need affordable goods and services ,I do need social security.i need the government to not be burned to the ground by an unelected , unaccountable psychopath.
It's such a disingenuous framing to try and make it look like only seemingly superfluous things are hit by this. Even staying within the realm of consumer electronics and appliances, what about a washing machine or a replacement ECU for your car? Fuckin' ANYTHING with a chip in it...
Another thing is that we had one of the greatest economies, but it's the fact that they're ok with billionaires hoarding the wealth. They are angry because they don't want their neighbors to be able to prosper and have some type of American dream for them and their families.
Wait… so the capitalist simps are suggesting we don’t participate to not get upset about the artificial increase in prices? They know we have to eat yeah?
Most of us aren't feeling any effect YET because the tariffs haven't even gone into effect, so unless you are selling stock or just got laid off it's still looming over the horizon.
However the pain IS coming. There are a lot of goods the US doesn't even produce.
How many cell phones are made in the US of US only components? The same number of cars that are made that way. None. Same for just about everything you own, use, or see.
Well, we were one because of Soft power. Then we ripped that off with less finesse than Godzilla storming Tokyo. So that left Trade...which is just FUBAR'd there are no metaphors left.
My brother in Christ day 1 affected my friend immediately because car parts got extraordinarily expensive and the US doesn't seem to make any car parts for their own cars
These are the people that ran to hospitals when they realized they couldn’t breath from Covid complications even though they had previously being laughing about Covid and calling it a hoax.
They will be crying when their food pantry runs out of white bread.
Imagine thinking the large percentage of electronic components we import only go into phones and game consoles.
The cost of most things will go up. Air filtration, fans, AC systems, automobiles, medical equipment, kiosks and pay terminals, a wide plethora of business equipment, microcontrollers etc
Soon they’d be saying, if it wasn’t already said “you don’t need to live a long & meaningful life, so work as hard as you can while we take all these good things from you to slave away for a rich fuck. While you’re at it hurry & die to make room for the next one!”
It’s a fucking CULT! These misguided people spend their last dimes on gold athletic shoes, red MAGA hats, desecrated American flags, Bibles & anything else that pathetic grifter lures them with! 🥺😞
Truly. Reminds me of the cults in San Fran during the ‘70s. They needed deprogramming to reenter society. There were even star deprogrammers rich families hired.
They call themselves patriots because of it and becaue they think they uphold the constitution.
A patriot geniunely does for their country and those within it, even those not from their country. These people just pretend and drive big trucks around
I totally agree! They are NOT patriots & they clearly care nothing about the constitution. They hide their racism, bigotry & hate behind the symbol of the American flag because they think it legitimizes them. 😑
Critical Theory’s got a term for this, “reification.” It means a kind of flattening of all relations between you and anything or anyone into an instrument for transaction, it’s “instrumental rationality.” Your actions are “reified” when you are, e.g., firing night nurses to save money
That pretty much is the mindset of these not just bandits but actual sociopaths. When you have more money than you can spend in SEVERAL lifetimes and it is still enough and you have to destroy the people below you to get it, you have a serious mental illness and should be locked away as such.
hey so as a pretty fuckin mentally ill person, I'd personally prefer to not be forcibly locked away. it's not a vague mental illness that he needs to be punished for, it's his actions. he's a fascist, and we don't "lock away" fascists 🙃
Every religion, and I expressly don't mean faith, has been repeatedly abused by opportunists and power-hungry people to control or oppress others. Whether Christian, Muslim, or otherwise.
You do NOT need safety regulation in business, kids do NOT need to lunch breaks when working overnight on a school day. You do NOT need over time pay you do NOT clean air & water. president musk needs another billion of YOUR tax dollars.
Well remember these elites still purchase products and healthcare, etc not available to the mainstream public… they get it under the table
They also don’t care if mainstream public dies by 45 after working to death as long as we make more babies to grow up and be their servants
I'm just glad I bought a new phone and tablet last cyber Monday. Hopefully they'll last 4 years. For now I won't be buying anything except food and that keeps crashing my budget 🥵
Well, my 401k has been hit hard. So my life is going to be spent slaving away for much longer than I'd hoped. Probably end up dying of old age before I retire.
I've been buying it whenever on sale for a while now. There's some sort of bug attacking coffee plants. Unsure of status since there's barely any coverage.
It's amazing how republicans can tell people, that's living from paycheck to paycheck, to stop whining and they shouldn't live above their means when they have gotten uber rich from government subsidies, bailouts tax cuts & stock buybacks. How can anyone, that's barely employed still follow Trump.
I both need and want to spend my money on my family instead of giving more of it to the federal government--especially when considering what these clowns will spend it on!
Don’t worry. You’ll be sending less to the feds as your income falls. Of course, you’ll still pay a greater percentage in taxes than many of the clowns, while they raise the cost of your healthcare and cut government services benefiting your family.
Isn't the capitalism they so admire based on people buying stuff? Our new economic system is based on vengeance and no one has told us how that pencils.
Some of us already have….
A retired friend went to work at a funeral home to pay for private school for his grandchildren. I guess getting paid to pass out tissues is always an option?
it does not happen over night except in the stock market. but once they take effect, say 2 months maybe 3 ask people then. coffee, fuel, food, appliances, cars, sneakers, clothing as well as te tings you mention.
It’s already affecting people.
Some stores will jack up their prices, even though their inventory costs were pre-tariff to try to recover future losses.
And even on this - it's pretty difficult to live in the modern world without modern communication devices. People don't need to always be rushing out to buy the latest thing, but sooner or later, they *need* a new phone or a new computer. So even if it *was* just those things...
Not into the void, direct it. When we all speak up, they will hear it. They have had it easy, we are like the frogs in the water that’s starting to boil, but we’re noticing that the water is getting hotter and we’re jumping out and they’re going to notice.
Oh I’m TRYING to direct it. And thank you so much. Thank you for reminding me - we ARE noticing. It’s not the time for hopelessness. I gripe at others for that and there I was hinting at it. Sincerely, thank you.
Everyone call your reps, attend a protest, alert your local press, do the boycotts.
The purchasing power of the people has been weakening relative to the top 10% of wealth and this is precisely why they are trying this now: testing the theory the economy will chug along just fine while half the people in it are doing horribly and most of the rest are barely getting by.
Yeah, I like that sentiment, but when you absolutely have to get it because yours is broken then you do NEED it, not just WANT it. We will all have to pay more just to survive. For example, my dryer is starting to go. And I can only line dry for so long. I fear the worst times are yet to come.
I remember in Holland in the winter my grandma would be bringing in the laundry off the line and you could stand it up. Nothing a bit of ironing wouldn't fix though.
yes. i may be in the same situation. luckily i have a home warranty plan. you may want to look into one. i use home service club but thre are many. i pay $50/mos and $95 for the service call. this may differ in your area.
that’s what they all say, but then they screw you, each and every one of them. it’s an ok service for minor repairs, but large appliances like hvac they will screw you rather than replace it. they tried to make me wait 2-3 months in winter while they looked for a part.
Ty, that’s kind of you. I actually have that and unfortunately, the repair man for my dryer put a really strong smelling glue on the seal for my dryer and I can’t use it now because it smells so bad. Go figure? He actually made it worse and now we’re trying to fight to get it repaired properly. Lol
But that's the whole idea behind American capitalism - to want things you don't need. Does it mean Trump is killing capitalism? What is next- according to Marx?
Okay, to answer the challenge, tariffs on all imports food prices and the cost to build homes, thereby increasing the cost of living. Living is essential to life. So, yeah, it’s not just iPhones.
The people that want these things are indeed the ones whining. The ones who don’t want anything but need food, shelter, and clothing for their children are too busy working to whine, especially on social media.
Some people do need those things for work. My wife operates a 3D camera and the only way to interface with it is a tablet…
So just because you don’t need a tablet doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of other people who do.
The lack of updates eventually makes them dysfunctional and a fancy paperweight. And having tried alt brands (albeit least five years back) they've only mimicked the aesthetics, but software is unusable. Until software is allowed to be updated for "old" devices, new tech will always be needed.
Fairphone and (i believe) ifixit phones are a great option if you’d like to find one that’s fixable years from now. However- screw this “avocado toast” mentality from freaks who have more money than they have empathy. The average American is living far poorer than the previous gens
You see that was BEFORE president musk & DOGE found on all fraud waste & abuse. Since they found all that wasted money it caused the cost of everything to go up. Duh everyone knows that what's happens when saving Americans so much money And the $8,000 checks are real. 🤣 😂 😆
Well you have to be patient don't ya know. It takes time for these measures to work. Of course, that wasn't the case with Biden. They were all screaming bloody murder and voting for fucking sociopaths because all the measures his admin took didn't fix things overnight.
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they also apply to needing replacement parts and all 3 of those listed items have consumer replaceable replacement parts. & any device insurance would go up with parts increases.
They WANT them. There’s a difference.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that the MAGA movement is a agenda pushed by the wealthy masquerading as a groundswell movement, because none of these ppl seem to know how the world works
Coincidentally, there were high taxes on the rich, strong unions, and plenty of local newspapers at the time. Hmmm.
Does this person's capitalist boss know that they posted this???
That would be a good thing if it actually happened. 👍🏻
And didn’t Tumo cancel the government support for chip factories in the US?
https://www.manufacturingdive.com/news/trump-to-kill-chips-act-not-that-simple-defunding/741866/
He's raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year appealing to the most incel of the MAGA crowd.
It's gross. Can't wait until karma comes for him.
we see how well they're doing with all that. All posturing. I'll be a shit person Monday-Saturday and just because I go to a building on Sunday I'm forgiven for it all.
It's the same stupid logic that says you can't be poor if you own a TV or a smartphone.
2 of the 3 listed can be classified as "need" depending on jobs, and all 3 if we are including video game journalism
Oh yeah and what about EVERY FUCKING THING ELSE
I hate people so fucking much
Sorry to be angry in your replies
I do need my 401k though....
But I wear a mask and get takeout.
You WANT massive 🪿🪿
(Let’s ignore that She-Ra canonically fights more than He-Man, because Quartering definitely would)
On day 1.
Try being married to one. 🙁
And in fairness to me, it’s not the original factory setting.
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What an utter knucklehead.
The result will be unemployment, companies going under or needing tax payer funded subsidies because of both import and retaliatory export taxes.
We rely on the "others" and vice versa.
and then it just goes crazy from there.
Of course mgmt says “We believe that, once President Trump’s policies take full effect and automotive production is re-shored, we should be able to resume steel production at Dearborn" but fails to mention this could be YEARS
You do not need a job
You do not need savings
You do not need 401(k)
But I will. Just so I have a space bar, a touchpad and USB port that work!
Suffering is not a virtue.
You do need shelter.
You do need clothing.
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Then again it's been a long time coming and nobody did anything.
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you do not NEED the new tech
you WANT the new tech
but logical thought out of these individuals is too much to ask for.
HE gets that new console/PC, but fuck those other guys.
However the pain IS coming. There are a lot of goods the US doesn't even produce.
My brother in Christ day 1 affected my friend immediately because car parts got extraordinarily expensive and the US doesn't seem to make any car parts for their own cars
They will be crying when their food pantry runs out of white bread.
Burn it to the ground so you may be alone with your mayonnaise jar & 357 magnum
The cost of most things will go up. Air filtration, fans, AC systems, automobiles, medical equipment, kiosks and pay terminals, a wide plethora of business equipment, microcontrollers etc
You do NOT need housing
You do NOT need clean air
You do NOT need clean water
It's neat. What do it mean?
You do NOT need Social Security
You do NOT need Medicare
I feel like this is how slave owners talked to slaves
Now, I can't be sure because I was not there, but it really gives that general aura
Remember when there was a caravan of immigrants coming into the country to take the vacation homes from boomers up in michigan!?
Yeah....all vibes my friend. all vibes based on a hazy racist believe
They call themselves patriots because of it and becaue they think they uphold the constitution.
A patriot geniunely does for their country and those within it, even those not from their country. These people just pretend and drive big trucks around
But it would be a very good way for "the little guy" to exert pressure, one of the few peaceful ones.
They also don’t care if mainstream public dies by 45 after working to death as long as we make more babies to grow up and be their servants
I could agree with the first part, because those are goods of affluence. But that's not the biggest and real problem.
A retired friend went to work at a funeral home to pay for private school for his grandchildren. I guess getting paid to pass out tissues is always an option?
They can’t trick me, they’re just trying to shorten the lines 🤣
You do Not need an AR-15
But tariffs will also impact food, medicine, appliances, and anything else you can buy in a store. "Just don't buy things" is a stupid argument.
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“you do not want that new iPhone with the 4D camera smarter Siri mindreading AI.”
These are the same people that don't understand how to buy groceries.
These are the same people that don't want a functional government.
These are the people who should pay more in taxes.
#TaxTheRich
Some stores will jack up their prices, even though their inventory costs were pre-tariff to try to recover future losses.
(All caps not yelling at you. Just yelling into the void.)
Everyone call your reps, attend a protest, alert your local press, do the boycotts.
“The One Trick Mammoths Don’t Want You To Know About”
They are not a want, but a need. And I will not feel guilty about wanting my husband with me for a longer time.
You do not need food
You do not need water
You do not need medicine
You do not need a house
Suck it up for the Leader he knows best.
So just because you don’t need a tablet doesn’t mean there aren’t lots of other people who do.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/all-tablet-brands
You think they make tablets in Ohio. 😂🤣😂
Alt brands. Alt products.
Replace battery instead of entire device.
No more!!