The extent to which The Discourse is revolving around how voters are going to feel about X or Y in 2026 or 2028 feels increasingly like denial. It is harder & harder for me to imagine a scenario where Trump remains in office another 3+ years and we have meaningfully free elections. - ThreadSky

normative.bsky.social • 13 days ago

The extent to which The Discourse is revolving around how voters are going to feel about X or Y in 2026 or 2028 feels increasingly like denial. It is harder & harder for me to imagine a scenario where Trump remains in office another 3+ years and we have meaningfully free elections.

Reposted from GOLIKEHELLMACHINE

we are still under the six month mark for a couple weeks and it is incredibly difficult to see how this is sustainable for 3.5 more years

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realancientlegend.bsky.social•13 days ago

Too many people are focusing on November 2028 and ignoring January 2027. In 18 months, the primary season will officially begin. Democrats will start announcing their candidacy for President. What will the GOP do?

juliadilliard.bsky.social•13 days ago

If trump is ousted for whatever reason, he will be followed by Vance, who's worse. Mike Johnson is next in line after Vance. We have a problem.

peter-butler.bsky.social•13 days ago

It's totally sustainable. We'll have elections in 2026, and we'll have elections in 2028

peter-butler.bsky.social•13 days ago

The big effort should be making sure those elections are *fair* and that *everyone can vote*

States need to reject the horseshit

https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

Of course we will. Russia has elections. Hungary has elections. Baathist Iraq had elections.

peter-butler.bsky.social•13 days ago

Correct. That is the big danger

pravetz.bsky.social•12 days ago

If a dictator can send marines into LA for no reason, why can't he send marines in to swing counties to make his opponents too afraid to vote?

cupcake1312.bsky.social•13 days ago

🎯 🎯 🎯

dsng480.bsky.social•13 days ago

Basing my hopes on the stupidity of his administration, and the wild nature of revolutions. Trump is moving too fast, stumbling as he races toward this.

He likely fails, or we end up with a third thing.

He has fucked up everything he has ever done.

airplaney.bsky.social•13 days ago

Or even 17 months to Nov 2026

1luckylady.bsky.social•13 days ago

You are right Julian..the Republicans who will be up for reelection won’t be reelected cause they are trump followers and what has Trump done for them? Nothing but make citizens lives more complicated and despairing!

barbiejo1.bsky.social•13 days ago

Ot won't happen. He's been conditioning everyone for it.
For nearly a dozen years.

deborahfrank.bsky.social•13 days ago

In the meantime, the guy who has identity crisis and doesn’t know his name is in hiding/mia. It’s like they’re preparing him to take over, or worse.

vidarrr.bsky.social•13 days ago

He stole the last one, what makes anyone think there will be another one?

miketolhurst.bsky.social•13 days ago

My only question is if in failing health the cult of personality can transform into a more durable institution that can be wielded by its inheritors? Can they make the Chavez->Maduro handoff and make it stick?

miketolhurst.bsky.social•13 days ago

Of course Mugabe stuck around forever - but he had many more years to establish a durable regime.

mbannantyne.bsky.social•13 days ago

sadly i think you are right

nursedawn.bsky.social•13 days ago

Don't you recall his statement about if you voted for him, you'd probably never have to vote again? Or, gonna be a dictator on day 1?

rex-remi-frenchies.bsky.social•13 days ago

Wait until July.

scoundrel2.bsky.social•13 days ago

it's truly delusional. it's an excuse to be the chickens they are. they kept warning us about prjt 2025, but what did they have in place for it? nothing! dems are fucking failures. "we have no power" REALLY? what's keeping any of you from peacefully protesting in downtown la right now? WHAT???

masterjost.bsky.social•13 days ago

If they were peacefully protesting Democrats would complain that they’re not doing anything tangible.

Losing elections has consequences.

conflictgeog.bsky.social•13 days ago

Nothing they have done since January suggests that they fear losing power through elections in the future.

signonleon.bsky.social•13 days ago

They will never voluntarily relinquish office.

They - Trump, Vance, Musk, Rubio, Hegseth, etc. - have committed more than enough crimes to imprison them for their natural lives.

They cannot ever leave. It cannot be permitted.

violetbytradition.bsky.social•13 days ago

I'm picturing them all being politely ushered onto a plane — in shackles, of course, only fair — to the Netherlands.

merz.bsky.social•13 days ago

The thing is, states run elections. The feds do not.

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

States are supposed to run elections. A lot the way things are supposed to work aren’t working that way. We were a hair’s breadth from the army seizing voting machines under the restrained version of Trump.

merz.bsky.social•13 days ago

We'll burn that bridge when we come to it. Lots of things are possible. Some have happened; may more have not.

alexhammy209.bsky.social•13 days ago

The dirtbags are already trying to tie the October 7th War around the next candidate's neck.

districtofalex.bsky.social•13 days ago

Most Dem pols in particular do not wish to acknowledge it because they don't know how to be an effective opposition party in an authoritarian state. They've never had to do it, they don't know what that looks like, and they don't want to believe it's now a requirement.

ddaverr.bsky.social•13 days ago

They know how, they neutralised Sanders when he threatened to become one. Instead they choose to clutch the pearls and do nothing. The Dems are not going to save the USA, because they are part of the problem. Twice they chose candidates so bad they couldn't even beat a certifiable shit like FOTUS.

reggiewallinsky.bsky.social•13 days ago

Hillary Clinton was the best qualified candidate, man or woman, lacking only combat duty, ever to run for that office. Bernie (and he’s my senator) gives great speeches. Bill Clinton must have turned Bekah Mercer down for her to spend hundreds of millions smearing them.

ddaverr.bsky.social•13 days ago

Clinton had the $$$, no one else did, that's why she was candidate. Best qualified? Whatever that means, it very obviously doesn't win elections, or connect with voters. She proved she was an unelectable liability. If your "best" can't even beat FOTUS, your selection process is seriously broken.

reggiewallinsky.bsky.social•13 days ago

Or the voters hate and fear women. They just had to tolerate a Black man, they weren’t gonna follow that with a mother-in-law. Even if the alternative was a rotting scrotum dipped in Cheeto dust.

angrymetalguy.bsky.social•13 days ago

How many of us really know how to be effective opposition in an authoritarian state? It's not what they were elected to do. They are trying to play by the rules they know and I think we can be a little unrealistic in terms of expectations. What is it that we expect?

crs1.bsky.social•13 days ago

We expect our leaders to be able to read a room not the donor line and they believe it’s the same thing

angrymetalguy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Yeah, I meant in a concrete sense. Not to be flippant, but this kind of makes my point. I'm in agreement that they've been feckless and shitty, and I think they need to be louder and madder, but their latitude for concrete action in opposition is very low and that's why they're scattered, imo.

dianefurst.bsky.social•13 days ago

Dem pols should be out there loudly shifting the narratives - every hour, if necessary. Fight back against the Fox News propaganda in ways that the public can easily grasp. AOC knows how to do this.

angrymetalguy.bsky.social•13 days ago

You can see real message discipline from people like Klobuchar, but they are tone-deaf. I think what we need is a group of politicians making affirmative cases for shit like Van Hollan was doing. Fight for what's right, not popular. Organize protests. Be visible fighting. But that's me.

votevaxresist.bsky.social•13 days ago

Hey, let’s really start looking at whether he was truly elected! It could be an out….

mjburgess.bsky.social•13 days ago

This is now a battle for the hearts and minds of a majority of Americans

mjburgess.bsky.social•13 days ago

Keeping saying that “Trump is in-American”

finagle-a-hegel.bsky.social•13 days ago

The hard part for me to imagine tho is how, after 4 years of this, you are in the military leadership and you look at a Trump who is already not really president anyway except for tariffs and say to yourself that this is the horse you're gonna hitch yourself to, as opposed to repeating 2021

dugganpubs.bsky.social•13 days ago

That's what I thought in the first term.

tobysmypup.bsky.social•13 days ago

That's where I've been for a couple of months. The extreme corruption, illegalities and disregard for the constitution while Republicans in Congress turn a blind eye, suggests they aren't anticipating a threat at the ballot box next year.

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

Unfortunately, it is equally hard for me to envision a plausible scenario where he is removed by lawful means, and even harder to imagine one where removal by extralegal means actually solves the problem & doesn’t yield something as bad or worse.

cruxothebiscuit.bsky.social•13 days ago

the current administration is not behaving as though there will be elections again.

meghanclare.bsky.social•13 days ago

nor elected Rs

sondeerrf.bsky.social•13 days ago

There’s a worse option - Trump is removed by the technocrats due to his crazy narcissism and they would prefer a smarter autocrat in Vance. And of course the media loves Vance for being “normal”

cbowers.bsky.social•13 days ago

the sweet meteor of death is our only hope

tomscud.bsky.social•13 days ago

Long January 7 2021 where he’s removed in practice but not in name seems like it would be unstable and I don’t know who’s in position to do it.

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don’t want this to read as a Toxic Savvy counsel of despair, but for all the No Kings rhetoric, most elected Dems & Reasonable pundits are not acting like they really grasp the trajectory we’re on.

hilarywollis.bsky.social•13 days ago

They are still holding out to see how much they benefit 💰 from the 🍊 regime before they dip a toe into the reality pool.

fireweedak.bsky.social•13 days ago

Exactly. Makes my head explode when they talk about how we need to hang in there until the next election. Open your eyes people!!!

eternaleyeroll.bsky.social•13 days ago

Or they do, and just simply don’t care enough or aren’t brave enough to act on it.

delserv.bsky.social•13 days ago

I think every branch of the US gov is designed to prevent something like a MAGA presidency. It’s not likely our political experts are about to get better, or something.
Also, the economic damage from Trump’s policies may turn the US into a 3rd world basket case a lot quicker than people realise.

globalnarratives.bsky.social•13 days ago

Honestly, it seems the only plausible option that doesn't involve extralegal means would be a myocardial infarction or something of its ilk in the next 3 years

secondthrowaway.bsky.social•13 days ago

oh they're grasping it alright

they're grasping and pulling us further down that trajectory while pretending to act surprised

chrisltd.bsky.social•13 days ago

Hakeem Jeffries on his way to Guantanamo Bay: "We will respond in a time, place and manner of our choosing if this continues to happen."

jambojeremy.bsky.social•13 days ago

This will be a big situation where Chuck will fire off at least two strongly worded letters, before being sent there himself.

jambojeremy.bsky.social•13 days ago

Susan Collins exclaims she "has never been more concerned" as they shackle her ankles for the plane ride.

integrity73.bsky.social•13 days ago

She just went to Mar-a-Lago and had dinner with Trump! Himmm wonder why?

missv3rbatim.bsky.social•13 days ago

She is beyond parody

fergdawg.bsky.social•13 days ago

ffs.

allthepages.org•13 days ago

Historically, they never do, right?

I'm no expert, but from my limited reading there were *PLENTY* of folks warning about what was to come w/Hitler.

They, like today, were for the most part ignored.

Just an observation - no witty conclusion.

calvinrestov.bsky.social•13 days ago

Well no, they definitely do. There have been dozens of would-be hitlers and other authoritarians who have failed precisely because resistance confronted them with their own failures.

vealllc.bsky.social•12 days ago

We are deathly distracted by technology, and equally deathly afraid of how they'll use it to kill us

chrisweedon.bsky.social•13 days ago

Rehtoric and law will not change this 'trajectory'. Only thing bullies understand is a black eye and broken nose.

vealllc.bsky.social•12 days ago

That understanding, honestly, doesn't change them at all, it makes them worse; they need to be in the grave

chrisweedon.bsky.social•12 days ago

It was meant to be rehtorical, I'd get arrested if I wrote what I really wanted.

vealllc.bsky.social•12 days ago

I'm talking bullies in general, and we all end up the same way in time. But I hear ya

samanthamathis.bsky.social•13 days ago

Couldn’t agree more. People need to Wake the F Up.

blingofthehill.bsky.social•13 days ago

The most likely lawful removal of Trump involves JD Vance seizing power through impeachment. Would Vance be worse? Maybe. Would he have the same cult of personality that brings all Republicans to heel? Hard to see that party follow a pokemon nerd into the breach. So good luck Vance.

chaimkatz47.bsky.social•13 days ago

Do you think the midterms will be free and fair?

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

Genuinely don’t know. Even if they are I don’t know if I see a path to a 2/3 senate prepared to convict given what Republicans have shown themselves willing to countenance.

xminust.bsky.social•13 days ago

Same.

pamoden.bsky.social•13 days ago

That leaves another option I think

oneoneder.bsky.social•13 days ago

The resolution: Trump must have a stroke and linger on in a maximally humiliating fashion

pamoden.bsky.social•13 days ago

That could mean Slobbering, dragging his leg and unable to speak - or golf

biliousmillie.bsky.social•13 days ago

Mother Nature may have her say….

xminust.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don't think we'll be that lucky. Kissinger lasted 100 years.

sesilu666.bsky.social•13 days ago

Best case scenario his health catches up to him and dies. Vance is worse, but he doesn't have the charisma.

amabrown.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s too bad there are no brave Republicans left

merrydythe.bsky.social•13 days ago

Totally.

violetbytradition.bsky.social•13 days ago

It's hard for me to imagine a scenario where Trump remains in office another three years and we have any kind of functioning state. We'll be forced to shift to relying entirely on more local governance and making a lot of it up as we go.

coach1946.bsky.social•13 days ago

Never make it! Best get ready to “go to the mattresses.”

crassversion.bsky.social•13 days ago

The wealth being accumulated by regime insiders, doesn’t imply they can just give up power. Even if there’s no Dem will to go after the Trump family, they won’t sleep soundly.

butwhoisthedreamer.bsky.social•13 days ago

I don’t think we had meaningfully free elections in 2024

molee1.bsky.social•13 days ago

We did not.

possltho.bsky.social•13 days ago

IF WE HAVE ELECTIONS

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

We’ll have elections. Every shitty tinpot dictatorship has meaningless show elections.

possltho.bsky.social•13 days ago

I hope they are meaningFULL.

donlovemargaret.bsky.social•13 days ago

EXACTLY
think mafia (or putin)
🍁🛶❤️💙💚🔬⚖️🌻🌻🌻✊

kopitekai.bsky.social•13 days ago

I said the same thing last November. It's not going to happen.

chrisltd.bsky.social•13 days ago

Openly taking bribes, inciting riots in LA, sending innocent people to gulags without a trial, starting a trade war with the entire world all at once. And last time they were in power, they already tried to steal the election.

valdavydov.bsky.social•13 days ago

Right on the money! This is exactly what orange POS is itching to do - cancel the elections in 2026 by declaring martial law. The legacy media need to wake up!

mlorette.bsky.social•12 days ago

it is not sustainable and we need to amass to remove him ASAP

leenie16.bsky.social•13 days ago

Fully agree. Pure head in the sand behavior.

plg585.bsky.social•13 days ago

Amen. On some days, it feels like he's the same incompetent idiot he's always been, and we'll come out the other side bruised but relatively intact. This is not one of those days. This is a day when I feel like our goose was cooked on Nov 6, 2024, and Americans voted for self-immolation.

debbiefr.bsky.social•13 days ago

It seems to me something has to break. This is unsustainable.

fakemichaeleisner.bsky.social•13 days ago

It’s literally impossible for him to allow an election on 2026. His entire existence is now dependent on being the President. He knows that once the house flips he will immediately be under countless investigations and impeached within weeks. He also knows that if convicted he ends up in prison.

justgracie2024.bsky.social•13 days ago

3 years? You can count the time left to stop this in weeks before the point of no return.

sanerthansane.bsky.social•13 days ago

Like you, I am concerned

peakraider.bsky.social•13 days ago

Actions beget reactions

gordoni.bsky.social•12 days ago

💯%✔️. Should the Senate and/or Congress lose their razon thin majorities in Nov 2026 Donald Trump will spend 2027 finding ways to make both houses ineffectual and then in 2028 he'll find ways to not have a Presidential election. And it'll all be masterminded by Nosferatu here.

socalsilencer.bsky.social•13 days ago

May his ⚰️ be near

plg585.bsky.social•13 days ago

This would be more comforting if Vance weren't such a monstrous and devious motherfucker.

socalsilencer.bsky.social•13 days ago

Aw, forget that “catholic” mfer.
Go for the jugular.

pineknee.bsky.social•13 days ago

People need to be talking about this more.

gbaji.bsky.social•13 days ago

Trump is explicitly seeking a civil war and he won't leave office without one.

pcyk.bsky.social•13 days ago

The immediate and the only thing to do now is to shine light on those Republicans who continue to sell their constituents for their own gain. Name them and categorise their deeds. Do a dossier on each of them. The TACO might be Teflon. But not all those R’s.

kevarosenberg3rd.bsky.social•12 days ago

sunrise, sunset.

marmaladekid.bsky.social•13 days ago

As a Canadian I do not want PM Carney to agree to any trade deal that has obvious issues because Trump I believe will crater the US economy because he thinks he needs that to solidify control, he came in with good economy, we know he creates the problems he then says he'll fix.

flynavy77.bsky.social•13 days ago

I think you are right. The stakes are too high for Trump to allow a free and fair mid-term elections that could finally result his impeachment, conviction, and removal.

No way he will not interfere.

normative.bsky.social•13 days ago

I think he could let midterms alone and there’s still not a plausible path to a 2/3 senate bloc prepared to convict & remove.

braindroplets.bsky.social•13 days ago

Exactly

80hd.bsky.social•13 days ago

We need to be living in the present

ksixer.bsky.social•13 days ago

The problem is that even IF he were removed, his entire cabinet is full of people who very likely would be worse. And still run by the same people, using the Project 2025 playbook. 😖

violetbytradition.bsky.social•13 days ago

Given how long anyone ever lasts in a Trump administration, it would be an entirely different cabinet of losers by that time.

ksixer.bsky.social•13 days ago

Fair point, yes. But let’s assume that anyone he’d have in his cabinet is someone none of us would want as POTUS. And god forbid the current Speaker. 😳

molee1.bsky.social•13 days ago

"He" doesn't need removal, Stephen Miller et al need removal, by whatever means.

limoniana.bsky.social•13 days ago

Very few people want to accept the fact that the United States of America ceased to exist in any meaningful sense on April 2nd, and that what we are doing right now is trying to decide if we are going to restore the Constitution or get used to living in Trump America

nickforbrains.bsky.social•12 days ago

Yeah same. It’s distressing

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