It seems most Netflix shows now are produced to be background entertainment for multitasking multiscreen people. When you can watch when you're only half leaned in it was easy for me to lean all the way out and cancel.
I read about that, but that's a dumbing down of shows hence of people as well.
Not needing full attention is bad for people.
That's why books are so important.
Netflix is a story graveyard.
I don’t trust anything Netflix puts out anymore because it’s become the expectation that they cancel their shows before the stories finish.
They canceled Dead End Paranormal Park on a cliffhanger where a dog died and I still feel that was one of the biggest crimes they could've committed against the animation community
Well duh. That was before every other studio saw how much money they were making and pulled their content to make their own services. Now we have cable 2.0.
Thank you, Owen for introducing this video- I am passing it on-much of the time consumers aren't even aware how they are being pillaged. What ever happened to normal capitalism with the quaint business practice of "Reasonable Rate of Return"?
Next, check out The Corporation.
I can't find the full version as they updated it, but here's a playlist of the original movie about why the concept of a "corporation" was even invented and how it's basically been destroying humanity ever since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV9Y&list=PL91039AE54E3616B3
TY! will check it out-lots to digest here-I am late to the game,just saw "Social Dilemma"(2020)-OMG! Humanity is endangered more than I understood.Their warnings and predictions have come to fruition. I can only digest but so much poison at a time- taking baby steps to reclaim peace thru knowledge💙
Why are they raising the prices? Because there's suckers like us that keep paying it. Going to go to the library rent movies and blow off my DVD player.
I prefer physical books so what I spend buying mostly older used hard bound books with prime shipping allows me not to care for Prime Streaming Audio or Video.
I started stocking up on books over three decades ago, including my engineering fields and most of the leading applied sciences fields.
I've lived in 7 different states since 2011. My book collection has dwindled down to the essentials. I only buy physical books if the digital formats are useless. Example: I just bought a second copy of Godel, Escher, Bach (previously downsized in a move). Useless in digital form.
Library app. You load in your library card number and you can borrow audio and ebooks on your device just like borrowing a paper book. It's not every library, but there are 3000 of them.
You mean before every major production studio decided to launch its own streaming service and only license underperforming content out to competitors unless they swapped for equally popular content?
I take it you pay more without ads. I pay 9.99 with ads and they usually only have one 25-40 second ad at the most 2 ads. You might want to switch. I don't even notice they're there I take a drink or something during them.
That reminds me. It's been a few years so time to start up a new free subscription to Netflix. By the time I've watched everything worth watching it'll be time to cancel before I have to start paying. Been working since the days of getting CDs n the mail.
Their model is not sustainable. It never was. The whole point was to become a monopoly so that they could increase prices once they made it, and they kept rising money based on that promise. Or course, others tried to copy it with the same model and now they're competing. (1/8)
Before the other streamers came in, they created great content for all demographics because they were trying to attract viewers from all segments. And they could buy the rights to old TV shows for peanuts (now they can't because others may bid too), which is more important than people realise (2/7)
Even though it may feel like they are a monopoly, they aren't, they just have a leading position in the market. But they've been burning cash for too long, and they can't afford it anymore. So they do what the terrestrial TV majors did a long time ago: avoid risks. Create bland content... (3/7)
... That ensures viewership, but does not attract interest. No prestige dramas, no provoking comedies, no relevant science fiction or fantasy. Just fun and easy things that people may enjoy watching but immediately forget about. It's the other streamers the ones who are taking risks (4/7).
Of course, as those others don't have a fraction of Netflix 's subscription numbers, they are hemorrhaging money. That's why they are merging and rebranding, trying to erode Netflix's numbers. But they're failing, the money (as in, investors' patience) is running out, and netflix... (5/7)
I think your thread was a very good explanation, but to add in on the point about competition, the real competition to consider is for exclusive distribution licenses.
Because media is not fungible. There's no Stranger-Things-to-Skeleton-Crew conversion factor; these are two separate monopolies.
The variety of streaming services is still pretty recent. Netflix held a monopoly on streaming for a long time. Even if it’s no longer technically accurate, they still have such a massive grip on the market that arguing over the use of the word is just kind of pedantic.
I was with you until your last sentence lol. They're basically a monopoly, broski. Just pirate shit. We played their little games and found that they're just assholes who keep raising their prices over and over and over. And offering crap services. So, pirate the shit. Who cares?
There's a monopoly on the streaming service. At least they had a monopoly in the beginning. I'm not here to argue, and I don't even care anymore honestly. Netflix doesn't have hardly anything good on their app anymore. They're greedy cocksuckers.
The market isn't 'Show something somewhere' it's 'Streaming'.
And it's clearly an Oligopol. A Monopol also isn't "There is no one else" it's a market domination. For example: Windows in the late 90s and early 2000 was a monopol while Apple or Linux exist.
Even most other Western countries don't have "two dozen different streaming services" as competition. Netflix is dominant however in most markets it operates in.
Indeed there are, but sometimes there's only Disney+ and then terrestrial catch-up services that come with cable TV which is then kind of a duopoly of commercial streaming services.
'Effective monopoly' means effectively one provider. Netflix is that in several of the 190 countries they operate in.
You wouldn’t have any of it without capitalism, it’s an entertainment product after all. It’s stock market and its shareholders that cause these issues and have these companies looking for exponential growth over all
Do you think no other system can produce entertainment? The most beautiful art and song is created without capitalism. You just said "it's not capitalism, it's fundamental parts of capitalism!" like yeah obv that's the problem but the root problem is capitalism. An inherently anti-art system.
I meant this specific type of entertainment. Without economic gains, you wouldn’t see entertainment that requires thousands of individuals over along period of time happening. The scale and time sink along would make it so there would have to be a reward for it
I do not think movies,
Video games or entertainment like that would exist without capitalism, no. You would have plays and such but there is no logical reason in most types of systems to invest that much resources without a gain involved. Communist Russia had some of this but the west invented it
"Without a gain involved", the gain is artist creation, pride, fame, admiration??? Most creators of art don't do it strictly, or even mainly for money. In fact, most people can't make art because they lack money (aka capitalism). Like "you would have plays and such!", cmon think it through more
Cancelled Netflix today, and Prime will be next soon! Netflix co -CEO on CNBC this more boasting about the profit Netflix is making and same day I get a email saying they are increasing my fee for Netflix. Bye
Netflix ended 2024 with 302 million global subscribers and an annual operating income exceeding $10 billion for the first time in the company’s history. The perfect time to raise prices!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I’ll have to check that out! I’ve been getting my British shows from my library on DVD. There are also some on CBC Gem 🇨🇦 including 14 seasons of the Great British Baking Show, and Ghosts (the original), plus other series and films
Hundreds of Beavers is also currently free (with ads) on YouTube along with hundreds of other movies… often a better selection than Netflix these days (which is why I’m canceling my ad supported Netflix account at the end of this month).
I have, on occasion, accidentally referred to it as Hundreds of Rabbits 🐰 because yes, there are rabbits. Warner Bros. Classics on YouTube airs full movies, too, and full Looney Tunes cartoons (which may’ve been one source of inspiration for Hundreds of Beavers?)
It's just a decent selection for cartoon fans like us. And Marvel and Star Wars and here in Canada a lot of the stuff that was on Hulu and a lot of Fox stuff like the cartoons and movies.
And for less than Netflix and no I'm not paid to say this.
IMHO it hasn't been worth it for a while. I think it just became a bill people got used to paying, like Prime. My wife & daughter like the K-dramas on Netflix so unfortunately I'm stuck with it for now.
Netflix makes money when you pay, and loses money when you watch. That's their ideal state.
I refuse to use prime cause Bezos is no diff than Elon or Suckerberg. Am going to turn the ads on to lower the price of them all. Start reading ebook again from my local library….which is free.
It's a means to mobilise people towards the right things, so it's a pity that the most greedy and careless people get to have basically all of it. If governments had it, or if all of us jointly had it in some way we'd all take care of each other better, surely.
There were better shows on Netflix when I was using a strangers account, someone logged into their Netflix on my Roku, during a party and for two years we got Netflix courtesy of some guy named Edgar1291.
Don't worry, the free market will get all free markety and competition will mean better shows for less money overall. That's how they said it works right?
I agree!! When studios decided to stream their movies on their own apps, Netflix did not only lose films, but also all their appeal. They hastily make cheap movies because the demand is high, but there is no shortcuts for quality. The movie industry needs to do something about this whole mess!
Netflix was good when they didnt have mainstream shows.. overall the content was more edgy and entertaining. it all just seems a bit boring now idk ? i havent logged in for years tho
Have you watched "Younger"? It was shot 2015-2021 and I just discovered it on NF and love it! Also watched "Nobody wants this" about 7 times. What do they have in common? So much openess, acceptance, joyfully dancing with life!
Binge watching this right now & really enjoying it. I want a Josh.😉 Loved "Nobody Wants This". Another really good one is Atypical....brilliant, witty writing.
I cancelled Netflix back when they raised the price. I pay attention to see if there is something worth watching, but so far there isn't. Same with all the other services. Now you have to judge is it worth watching commercials for? That answer is always no
Agree! That was when Netflix was not trying to produce its own material. But it had to pay for the good material, so it started producing its own mediocre material. They also terminated the DVD-by-mail business so most classics are no longer available, only a lot of current mediocre stuff.
I read recently increase in subscribers so they jacked up the prices this is how we treat our local customers. I have never had a Netflix account now going to add to of my Never list.
My library had everything- and it's free. I just have to wait a little but the surprise of getting Last of Us showing up when you forgot you ordered it - adds to the fun
I didn't realize they raised their price again. Yikes. That's why I rotate. I get a different channel every month and watch everything that looks good then switch to another and do same. By the time I get to the first one there is new stuff to watch. Much cheaper.
Yup, and the price increase is effective on subscribers’ very next billing statement. For me, that would have been Jan 26. I’ll stick with Apple TV after my (now-third) free trial ends. Rotating is great way to go. I rotated music apps for over a year before they caught on.
That sucks. A lot of people must be canceling things at the moment because when I went to cancel things lately there are a lot of "have a free month on us" offers. I am canceling any mainstream media stuff because they are partially to blame for this mess. Apple TV has great shows.
I miss when everything under the sun was available. I'd hear about a movie coming out to theatres I'd put it in my queue and eventually it would show up in the mail
MindHunter was and still is a bummer. The Society? Canceling after only one season with allllll those unsolved storylines floating around was just mean. Like if Lost only had one season 🫤
Their metrics are shit. If people are too late to a series they bin it, and they do that quicker than word of mouth can get someone to sign up for Netflix for a show.
Sometimes I'm so excited for a show that I will watch it slower, to savour it. That also results in early cancellations!
I was so ready to watch 1899 after having seen Dark, but Netflix's constant cancellations made and make it so hard to commit to investing yourself in a show you know is probably going to get canned. My netflix is a graveyard of potential media consumption I never engaged in because it felt pointless
That's why I only subscribe per month, when you have Netflix or any streaming service for too long you find yourself quite bored and you spend so much money on it. When you only use one per month you get less bored of it and save some money along the way.
I’m interested in this. Does dipping in and out mean your profiles / watch lists and all of that disappear? I’m subscribed to way too many things right now but don’t want to lose my profiles if I cancel and resubscribe a different time.
Exactly. Find a few full seasons of shows on each platform. Pay for them individually (the platform) & binge watch each series. Cancel, move to the next platform & series.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Then you're only paying for 1 subscription a month.
You can usually unsubscribe from streaming services without deleting your account/losing your watchlists etc. They'll keep your account dormant until they're legally required to delete it.
Yes, that's what makes it great you can switch between services without it costing a lot of money, waiting a month for a certain show ain't that big of a deal.
Same. Netflix, Disney, Prime, etc... If there's something new, and exciting to see, I hit Re-Subscribe, and then immediately hit Cancel.
You get charged for the month, and the cancellation happens at the end of that pay period.
Tubi, YouTube, and my local cinema fill in the gaps.
I wish I had made a better note of it, but I recently saw a thing that suggested that the big cinemas are getting less popular, but the little guys are getting more popular.
If there's a place near you playing Seed of the Sacred Fig, or just announced a Lynch-Fest, then that's where you want to be.
I don't disagree. But I just watched the first episode of The Gentlemen on Netflix. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I'd be binging it. It's a Guy Ritchie production, and it's great!
I just cancelled. It's bad enough they keep raising prices and cancelling shows with no ending...but I'm done sending money to people who bow to trump.
And you could get harder to find releases. I have no idea about now, but you couldn’t stream Cannibal Holocaust on Netflix 12 years ago - had to get a physical copy.
That’s when you could find nearly any movie. Now it’s costs a lot more for a pretty small collection. For me, it’s worthless. If I didn’t have teens watching it, I would cancel it.
That anyone is paying to watch Seinfeld reruns is proof of the Decline of Mankind....Seinfeld is the show you land on when the only thing running is infomercials or the local news
Stremio with Torrentio addon, and a RealDebrid service. That's been working amazingly well for me, for the past year or so. RealDebrid costs just a couple of bucks per month.
I cancelled mine this morning as soon as I read about their record earnings/profits and they still chose to raise rates. I cited excessive greed under the “other” section. I’ve been with them for several years without interruption, and I don’t feel a bit of regret.
I miss the whole family going to the family video store to pick out movies together to watch. Now, with streaming, it's not special. Family is in and out, walking around, on their phones, just like any TV show.
TikTok, Instagram etc ruined our concentration span, I have to put my phone far away to not constantly grab it. Can’t even enjoy books anymore. But back in the 00s I would get so excited about a new video cassette 🥹
Must abandon all streaming services and social media. I no longer stream and now have 2 social media left. Bluesky and Facebook for family. Want to get to 0....it's hard. Been going to theatre to see movies...matinee are still reasonable.
I started purchasing DVDs bc Amazon Prime is such a scam. As soon as I don’t get the student discount anymore, I’ll cancel my prime. I think my next step will be reducing my screen time. Then getting rid of social media will be a lot easier!
I forgot about buying dvd's. Need to get a DVD player. Much better than Prime where you've got to buy the good movies anyway. Quit all streaming and cable. It's better. Social media is hard to quit. Maybe a flip phone?
Once stranger things has finished this year I’m tempted to get rid. There’s only the recruit and night agent this month and then stranger things and that’s about it on Netflix I’m interested in. They were always going to up the prices due to wrestling
That was my plan too. There are things i could watch on there but none are worth it anymore after stranger things is done with how the platform is changing.
I didn’t get through the second part of the DC because Netflix’s 4K feed makes my TV flicker on and off every minute or so. My OLED will do that when changing to HDR/Dolby Vision, but it’s supposed to just do it the once.
I think all of these streaming services should give every subscription a number of tokens per month, and the tokens can be used to vote on series that the user wants to see continued etc. Not the "they didn't watch the whole thing in one sitting on release day> scrap it" model.
I really don't get what Netflix did to itself. It would go into three or four season runs of these dead end shows that were garbage, or some show that was really really promising with a good premise and cut it dead after season. Fucking aggravating
I just canceled my subscription. I realized I'd not really watched it and they just went up in price not that long ago... Let Netflix go get their money from the MAGAts.
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I think the problem is the noise-to-signal ratio when it comes to show variety and quality.
Not needing full attention is bad for people.
That's why books are so important.
https://www.youtube.com/live/uPtK5Z-e9no
I don’t trust anything Netflix puts out anymore because it’s become the expectation that they cancel their shows before the stories finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYG1mu8Lg8
I can't find the full version as they updated it, but here's a playlist of the original movie about why the concept of a "corporation" was even invented and how it's basically been destroying humanity ever since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pin8fbdGV9Y&list=PL91039AE54E3616B3
The world will keep turning - don't destroy your mental health because you were born into a system out of your control.
Pick your battles where you can and want.
Being outraged at everything all the time isn't good for one's health.
I started stocking up on books over three decades ago, including my engineering fields and most of the leading applied sciences fields.
“Kevin can F*+k himself” is pretty dark and took a while to figure out if I liked it but the last 4 episodes really turned it around.
Cancelling my subscription after that though.
They literally eat dogs & treat them abominably before they do. They are a people with a pitiful psyche.
The Koreans have kind of quietly phased out the whole eating dogs thing.
On the Koreans' dietary habits, after the 2024 ban, which is phasing in to 2027, the dog meat trade is being pushed underground. It still goes on.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/south-korea-offers-incentives-adoptions-ahead-ban-farming-dogs-food-2024-09-26/#:~:text=South%20Korea%20has%20more%20than,restaurants%20still%20serve%20dog%20meat.
South Korea has more than 1,500 dog breeding farms and more than 200 dog slaughter houses.
Some 2,300 restaurants still serve dog meat.
Its a reflection of the national psyche. And, not a good one at that.
There're certain things we shouldn't eat unless we're starving.
Time to cancel them subscriptions and get a DVD player
Disappointing.
Canceling probably.
Because media is not fungible. There's no Stranger-Things-to-Skeleton-Crew conversion factor; these are two separate monopolies.
Terrestrial TV is still a thing.
You can even go to the shops and buy physical media.
All of that demonstrates that calling NF a monopoly is ludicrous.
In fact you can watch the significant majority of TV out there without netflix.
No where close to a monopoly
The market isn't 'Show something somewhere' it's 'Streaming'.
And it's clearly an Oligopol. A Monopol also isn't "There is no one else" it's a market domination. For example: Windows in the late 90s and early 2000 was a monopol while Apple or Linux exist.
America isn't the world bruz.
Even most other Western countries don't have "two dozen different streaming services" as competition. Netflix is dominant however in most markets it operates in.
Monopoly means one provider. It's is the word.
'Effective monopoly' means effectively one provider. Netflix is that in several of the 190 countries they operate in.
Video games or entertainment like that would exist without capitalism, no. You would have plays and such but there is no logical reason in most types of systems to invest that much resources without a gain involved. Communist Russia had some of this but the west invented it
Now, Netflix pretends to show 10,000 movies, but in fact it's the same focus-grouped blather filmed 10,000 times with stolen titles for variety.
Pure dreck. No thank you.
And for less than Netflix and no I'm not paid to say this.
Or Netflix, remember browsing for hours in Blockbuster just to get a b-movie if u were lucky? Now you can do it online!
Netflix sells subscriptions, not content.
Netflix makes money when you pay, and loses money when you watch. That's their ideal state.
Which defeats Netflix's entire original purpose 😊
Less for More
Capitalism
https://www.codepink.org/netflix2024
However, there are almost no good shows on all the other streaming services I have.
RIP
Mindhunter
1899
The OA
Shadow and Bone
Lockwood and Co.
Inside Job
And many more... 🪦
Sometimes I'm so excited for a show that I will watch it slower, to savour it. That also results in early cancellations!
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Then you're only paying for 1 subscription a month.
I think theses subscriptions plan on us having a boatload of them all at once for he 💲💲💲
You get charged for the month, and the cancellation happens at the end of that pay period.
Tubi, YouTube, and my local cinema fill in the gaps.
If there's a place near you playing Seed of the Sacred Fig, or just announced a Lynch-Fest, then that's where you want to be.
Every Netflix-exclusive show I liked got axed. And even their documentaries keep slipping in quality.
They all have good guy vrs bad guy with shoot’em ups Boring
Series.
And
His toy a stuffed gingerbread man.
Saturated with WW2 content at least one a month.
Having removed all the content made about Palestine or made in Palestine. Is not a coincidence.
Five Broken Cameras was on there once and is free on YT today. A stunning documentary.