It’s inappropriate to be in your position of influence and posting things like this.
You’re a community organizer and your example will be emulated by your followers and friends.
You have to put on a brave face and walk into the onslaught to come.
my diabolic half plan - code up an AI girlfriend trained to subtlety dispense left wing talking points - don't mention that and give it away for free >:)
I know this is facetious but I have honestly been considering how something like this could work for awhile. A lot of people are voting against their own interests because they are being manipulated. How do you manipulate them into voting for their own interests?
I really don't think we do. He's a liar and a pawn in this. Don't put him on a pedestal like his base does. He won't follow through on his promises. However the GOP powers that be have plans - Proj2025 & more - I'm sure, and I don't think he'll be involved in them much longer.
That may be worse.
It’s time that we come to grips with the fact that this is apparently what America wants. He didn’t accidentally win the presidency, he won running away. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we can start working on figuring out what the hell happened and how to fix it.
I think he’s saying at least this time we know what Trump is capable of and what his administration has planned, compared to the first time when we didn’t know what to expect. Personally, I’m not comforted by this lol
Total and complete ownership of all three branches of the federal government. The judicial branch for decades, the others for probably the same if they keep rigging the elections like they did this one. No way 15 million less Dem votes with "record turnout".
I think my problem is we /don't/ exactly. No sure exactly how many of our institutions will fail. And Trump regularly fails to make any real policy proposals so we just get to "find out" what else he whims into action on top of the few horrible promises he's already made.
But do we really? Because I’m only prepared for what we experienced when there were reasonable adults in the room to tell him no. And they’re all gone now.
It's been pretty clear since 2015 that this was a rising concern. It has fully boiled over now. At least now none of them can honestly claim they "didn't know". They know. They know and they chose it again.
I mean, hell, Germans still do it, one of our Neo-Nazi C-Words was "totally perplexed" and surprised that her Grandfather was an avid Nazi Partymember etc.
Thats what blows my mind. It wouldn't be unreasonable to believe the lies and get swept up in the idea of "he's a good business man" or "he doesn't actually mean what he is saying." But after his presidency, we know who he is and people said they wanted that. That is just so saddening
they think because he didn’t do these things the first time that it wasn’t going to be bad. but they conveniently forget that’s because democrats controlled the house and senate.
They want him to sit there and sign all of P25 into law. The whole notion of oh he's a puppet for them, oh they'll replace him before his term is over - no way! They'll pass an unpopular agenda. Try to corrupt the mid-term vote. If that succeeds maybe challenge 22A.
I would like to learn about the internal infightings that will certainly happen among the staff to get the attention of a petulant child king. Understand how your enemy works within their system can be beneficial, the fight hasn't stopped I hope.
I don't see that there will be any infighting, though. He's going to choose batshit crazies like JFK Jr to run things they have zero qualifications for and Lesilatibe branch, also Repub, are going to let him run wild because they can. SC already gave him immunity in advance and he pardons whoever.
You might be right, I just think there will be a lot of chaos when maga runs things, they are not good with governing, they could or might have learned from the first time around, but I don't think it is in their nature to learn. It will be messy.
If everything that's happened in the past 8 years hasn't been enough to convince people of Trump's maliciousness and incompetence, I don't know what can.
It's disheartening for sure, but let's say hypothetically Harris won, the US could not afford to stop learning how to be a good country either right. I guess my point is human species has to keep learning, but no question this is a major setback.
Right, that is a possibility for sure, the question is would all Americans just roll over and accept that, I think that chance is small. The dems should keep hammering the fact that since gop control everything, whatever happens is gop fault, nonstop.
I just don't know how much more she can take. We were wounded from his first term, but our institutions had enough limiters to stop the worst of his policies from having a lasting impact, and the Russia-Gate stuff did pump the brakes a bit too.
The thing is, I know some things that are promised, like rfk and musk swinging a sledgehammer wildly at institutions meant to protect the public.... I just don't see what's possible to stop a lot of it. So 'knowing what we're facing' is just staring directly into the abyss, waiting for the horrors.
I get what you mean, but I think I miss the days when these fascists were still crypto. A candidate promising the biggest ethnic cleansing since the partition of India is even scarier when it gets him elected in a blowout.
People keep saying this but I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.
If being "woman Biden" is enough of a reason to instead vote for a RAPIST who OPENLY campaigns on the hatred of whatever minority of the month they've decided to scapegoat, then they are an ignorant person or a bad person. Full stop.
Trump got the same number of votes every time. They didn't become Trump voters. They flet disenfranchised and didn't vote. The faithless are stupid, but mostly not evil people.
But I'm not talking about people who abstained or voted 3rd party.
70 million+ voted for Trump. I just don't think these are educated or good people. And I think this is a much bigger deal than people who chose to vote for someone else or not at all.
10/10. Begging Americans to let this radicalise you rather than lead you to despair. You were gonna have to build a grassroot left movement eventually - the stakes have just been made more obvious and pressing for you. It's also easier to rally ppl against an open fascist than a liberal imperialist.
As Yanis Varoufakis said: ''There is no guarantee that the immiseration of the working class is going to create class solidarity and a rebound of progressive politics.. they (the working class in the UK under Thatcher) ended up leaning more right wing... more nationalist.''
I agree with him on that
One thing I feel like we can take away is that it’s a mistake to assume any amount of political or economic literacy in the electorate at large. On the left things seem so painfully obvious but if your don’t do the quiz is hard. People don’t want to learn they just want to be told they’re right.
The amount of lies and bullshittery that you Americans will have to deal with the next 4 years minimum makes my head spin. The endless fight against lies and misinformation is going to be so much harder.
Do we? I think if we put the escalation of events in the last trump presidency *plots graph* we will be fighting off a zombie apocalypse by next spring
Do we though? I’ve been saying for months that he won’t remain in office for long after inauguration (either 25A or a window) because he’ll be deemed expendable. He knows too much and obviously doesn’t have a filter.
For Trump, specifically, we have been watching this war unfold online with the likes of Tim Pool and Prager U and Ben Shapiro since the end of the 2000s.
My husband's friend is under the assumption that we get our info purely from mainstream media and swears that there's so much missing context. What context am I possibly missing when I'm hearing it straight from the source? There's video. Like 🤔🤔🤔
I had the same feeling. I had crippling anxiety election day not knowing what was gonna happen. I woke up the next morning, saw the results, and just continued. I didn't have any anxiety, I was just upset by the results, and continued.
Just imagine the worst outcome - and then add about 50% on top.
The thing is, this is not just 4 years to come and then it is over. The GOP opened the holy grail to motivate Voters: Hate.
This will not stop ever again.
Defensive democracy techniques in Germany keep the AFD out of power. Outright prosecutions in Greece jailed the Golden Dawn.
They were always going to become this. We shouldn't have let them get this far. But we still have things we can build, tactics we can use and that we know are successful.
On the surface level sure, but deeper down, there's a couple of bigger issues to work out.
1. the DNC fucking sucks at outreach
2. the online left is too much of an ouroboros, say anything even remotely out of line, now or 20 years ago, and they'll ostracize you.
I saw what you saw, and I was walking through some very leftist online spaces saying things like, "I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm telling you why *I* am choosing to vote for Harris." They were chill discussions, lots of agreement.
So no, I don't think that's "where the votes went."
I don't think I saw much of that this cycle, but in the 2018 midterms, I saw heaps and heaps of it against Cenk Uyger when his disgusting, old (at the time like 20 years old) blog posts resurfaced. Sexism, genocide denial/apologia, the whole works.
I agree, and from what I've seen it's a lot better than it used to be. I just hope that continues to be true, AND I hope that neo-liberal centrists become willing to work with leftists, for a change, instead of remaining mired in the strategy that has led us to this point.
Hoping the impact for Dftba and good store won’t be too bad. From the outside looking in this election seemed like a Brexit - people genuinely uninformed about the impact of the decision they were making, even on themselves, because central figures were telling blatant lies.
I'm living in the UK. I want to think better of Americans, but I can see systemically ingrained principles in the people, culture and the country that reflect in the election. But then again, I live in the UK. The country of colonialism, empire and monarchy.
As an aside, I take some solace in that incumbent parties are being trounced everywhere and that some of Dem strongholds held down ballot - that will make getting through the next few years “easier” (relative to the alternative)
I’ve been avoiding the news so I don’t know if this is just because of tuesdays results or if something more specifically happened and this is targeted to that 😞
He's never going to face even two minutes of consequence for anything. He's not going to end up in jail.
He's going to enact project 25, and we are all going to suffer for it.
This. He'll be sentenced before being sworn in, then will immediately appeal. All cases will be paused while in office, and he will likely order whatever corrupt AG he installs to dismiss everything.
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You’re a community organizer and your example will be emulated by your followers and friends.
You have to put on a brave face and walk into the onslaught to come.
That may be worse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJz18c6gw8c
I mean, hell, Germans still do it, one of our Neo-Nazi C-Words was "totally perplexed" and surprised that her Grandfather was an avid Nazi Partymember etc.
It's about civilizing so hard they realize they're the uncivil ones.
I'm just so tired of "Let's keep them from making things worse."
If being "woman Biden" is enough of a reason to instead vote for a RAPIST who OPENLY campaigns on the hatred of whatever minority of the month they've decided to scapegoat, then they are an ignorant person or a bad person. Full stop.
But I'm not talking about people who abstained or voted 3rd party.
70 million+ voted for Trump. I just don't think these are educated or good people. And I think this is a much bigger deal than people who chose to vote for someone else or not at all.
I agree with him on that
Read project 25. It's horrifying
Which fucking sucks but you gotta press on.
https://bsky.app/profile/wagatwe.com/post/3laedi6qine2p
He'll claim everything he does in office is an official act and he has the House and Senate.
Not to mention H5N1 that we know has a much higher mortality rate than COVID. The CDC is providing symptoms so it's worse than they're letting on.
The thing is, this is not just 4 years to come and then it is over. The GOP opened the holy grail to motivate Voters: Hate.
This will not stop ever again.
They were always going to become this. We shouldn't have let them get this far. But we still have things we can build, tactics we can use and that we know are successful.
1. the DNC fucking sucks at outreach
2. the online left is too much of an ouroboros, say anything even remotely out of line, now or 20 years ago, and they'll ostracize you.
So no, I don't think that's "where the votes went."
Anyone saying we have to stop respecting all people or not deliver on policies which rise all boats is wrong.
We need to know this so we face the oncoming destruction correctly.
https://bsky.app/profile/daviddarmofal.bsky.social/post/3lafmu3anro2m
thats what
He's going to enact project 25, and we are all going to suffer for it.