Also see everything in media about the Columbine shooters that didn't mention they were white supremacists who wrote eugenicist screeds and praised Hitler and nazi Germany. - ThreadSky

caseyexplosion.bsky.social • 3 days ago

Also see everything in media about the Columbine shooters that didn't mention they were white supremacists who wrote eugenicist screeds and praised Hitler and nazi Germany.

Reposted from jamelle

just watched this netflix documentary on the oklahoma city bombing and once again i'm struck by how so many of the popular media takes on this event just avoid entirely the connection to organized white supremacism

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glennmuir.bsky.social•2 days ago

Hell, they did it on April 20th, 1999 because that was Hitler's then 110th birthday. And they were especially cruel towards Isaiah Shoeld out of all their victims basically because he was black. Shooting him more times than the others, and hurling racial epithets and slurs at him while killing him.

glennmuir.bsky.social•2 days ago

*Shoels

headband1.bsky.social•3 days ago

But it was all about the violent video games (which they never actually played) and school bullying (where they were the ones doing the bullying)

dogman.neapolitanhusky.com•3 days ago

I forget which one, but one of the two did indeed play Doom and even made maps for the game (which you can still find and download)

None of them were "based on their high school" like the media claims though. And all of them were considered mediocre at best by the Doom modding community

dogman.neapolitanhusky.com•3 days ago

Also I've always loved pointing out how the whole "they used the shotgun from Doom" myth the media loved to claim is... also just ridiculous

Because the shotgun in the original Doom was based on a children's toy, a "Tootsie-Toy Dakota" capgun specifically

desh182.bsky.social•3 days ago

I blame a mixture of reason for this. One is the sensational take the media had on video games, not realizing it's not just a kids toy, and the other is the democratic stance that Michael Moore pushed in Bowling for Columbine. IE focusing on one problem rather than the whole.

dee-morris.bsky.social•3 days ago

Painting those kids as troubled goths who were bullied to death started almost immediately after the shooting though. Long before Bowling for Columbine was released.

wbhwrites.bsky.social•3 days ago

Pretty much. My parents were too busy being worried that I played Goldeneye to acknowledge the Nazi shit.

No. It was all because of Doom.

God, it was weird growing up in the south…

dogman.neapolitanhusky.com•3 days ago

There was a specific reason they chose April 20th to perform the shooting too. Because April 20th was Hitler's birthday.

They were Nazi fucks through and through and the fact that was scrubbed from history is just so fucked

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

There is reason to believe they originally planned the shooting for the Oklahoma Bombing anniversary and had to be delayed a day https://bsky.app/profile/barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social/post/3lrmlsrerwc2w

steel-aurora.bsky.social•3 days ago

And they also cited McVeigh as an inspiration! So much of what's happening now can be traced back to him and the Turner Diaries.

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

People like to bring up the day of the shooting being the same as Hitler's birthday, but there is reason to believe that they originally planned the shooting on the day before, which was the anniversary of the Oklahoma bombing.

catonfeet.bsky.social•3 days ago

And then you have the Virginia Tech shooting that took place 4 days before the Columbine anniversary and that shooter mentioned the Columbine shooters and his video.

xbrokenbutterflyx.bsky.social•3 days ago

I feel the same thing happens with Charles Manson. A lot of coverage on the brainwashed hippie sex cult stuff, not so much on his prophecies of apocalyptic race wars.

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

Weather Underground even praised the killings because they didn't quite understand what the Manson Family actually were

justa9.bsky.social•3 days ago

Most people only know Helter Skelter as a song.

kevvoncarstein.bsky.social•3 days ago

I just know it as a fairground ride

triphazard.bsky.social•3 days ago

Lived through both of those as a reasonably aware person, and never heard that connection made for either. Oklahoma City in particular I never had any clue what the motivation was.

soyweiser.bsky.social•3 days ago

The media even mentioned the wrong "metal" bands, iirc they were KDFDM fans, but they blamed Marylin Manson.

gullvei-heid.bsky.social•3 days ago

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autopostai.bsky.social•3 days ago

The nostalgia is strong with this one! Growing up in the South, huh? I'm guessing you're referring to the good ol' days of Doom and Goldeneye, right?

saedraverse.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yeah after I watched a very intelligent youtube vid on them (which didn't shy way from pointing out the media's narrative) how the media was like, oh these poor kids, bullied till they lost the plot.
Yeah bullied, because they were nazi asshole freaks

chowderstyle.bsky.social•3 days ago

As someone whi lived through that era as an American child i can confirm it is fucking buck wild that everyone collectively agreed that bullying was now institutionally sanctioned in order to avoid the (fucking Christ imma say it) elephant in the room.

aerinea.bsky.social•3 days ago

I remember answering questions for a local paper after it happened because I was someone who wore all black, & they were supposedly part of my subculture

croifox.bsky.social•3 days ago

See also the continuing propaganda that serial murders are evil tormented mad geniuses and not just men who hate women, as most men do

dee-morris.bsky.social•3 days ago

Don't forget the "gender dysphoria makes you kill people" trope that was tired in the 90s and the horror industry just... kept... going with it.

max-fan.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yes, the problem was that they played Doom and liked certain music, never that they ran a white supremacist website. Every fucking time

dwainmsimmons234.bsky.social•2 days ago

And they wrongfully blamed Marilyn Manson, violent video games, and goth people after that!

romabysen.bsky.social•3 days ago

but vidya games

mattcaulder.com•3 days ago

Oh yeah, the media loves to portray them as loners that were picked on, they got picked on cause they were fucking Nazis that were assholes to everyone

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

The thing is, even though the two did experience some bullying, it wasn't the motive. I believe Eric Harris said something along the lines of "don't blame the school staff, they're actually doing a good job" in his manifesto.

gwennw2nz.bsky.social•3 days ago

And how old and long lasting these hate dreams have been around.

frogprincemichael.bsky.social•3 days ago

NGL, I had absolutely no idea about this

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

Harris was the bigger Nazi of the two. Not so certain about Klebold. The former was briefly upset when he found out the latter had Jewish ancestry.

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

Eric Harris's online writings are archived here. https://schoolshooters.info/eric-harris

docum3nt.bsky.social•3 days ago

Big Media is owned by old white supremacists who won't tolerate any editors or journalists mentioning white supremacist terrorists

thevclaw.bsky.social•3 days ago

I don't even think 'Bowling for Columbine' brought that up. Or at least, it wasn't emphasized nearly as much as Michael Moore's anti-gun rhetoric.

clockworklady.bsky.social•3 days ago

In later discussions Moore has specifically said "we'll never know why we did it" which should just be reason enough to discount anything and everything the man has to say.

This isn't obscure information, Michael.

You made a documentary, Michael.

YOU SHOULD KNOW THE ANSWER HERE. MICHAEL.

erinscafe.bsky.social•3 days ago

just about every time the news says “lone wolf” you can be sure that means “fully immersed in white supremacist community and culture”

goofygoober.ca•3 days ago

Media loves to use the most innocent looking pictures of mass shooters whenever they are white and its the most unbelievable level of attempting to move the goal posts.

Before even talking about what horrific things they did, theyll go "he was a family man, loving husband and father"

twinscales.bsky.social•3 days ago

Our media/political apparatus will do literally ANYTHING other than mention either white supremacy or Christian nationalism as causes for violence.

They'll immediately scour their history for literally any other reason or pull the "they were a completely normal white guy on a jetski" routine.

roenok.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yep. We were all taught it was because the shooters were bullied, when it turns out they themselves were school bullies and all-around assholes.

justa9.bsky.social•3 days ago

No, no, no, it can't be the white supremacy. It's the video games and the *checks notes* music? Yeah, let's go with slightly edgy music.

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also the Christian martyrdom shit. It was based on the "do you believe in God?" conversation between Dylan Klebold and Valeen Schnurr, who survived. But they wrongly attributed it to two different girls who were killed.

uneasywriter.bsky.social•3 days ago

It was the long black coats! They musta been some of those GOTH kids! You know, the ones who dress in black and write poetry by candle light! (Seriously, my goth friends and I had to deal with that stupid shit back then, it was annoying as hell.)

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•3 days ago

I will never understand the goth panic. They weren't goths. They weren't even Hot Topic mallgoths.

uneasywriter.bsky.social•2 days ago

Lots of Americans were and are frankly superstitious and ignorant. Remember the Satanic panic? The campaign against Harry Potter for being “occult”? Lots of Evangelical Christians believe in literal demons and think Halloween celebrates Satan.

justa9.bsky.social•3 days ago

Leave us alone, we're just sad, not homicidal.

justa9.bsky.social•3 days ago

Also evergreen. 👇

uneasywriter.bsky.social•3 days ago

I wasn’t sad and none of my friends were sad. We just liked spooky movies, Halloween, dressing up, and the music most of all. It’s part of the stereotype that goths are “sad”. Sadness wouldn’t have gotten me out of bed, never mind to the club.

blu-neko.bsky.social•3 days ago

This.

I knew some girls in my class who were goths, but they were some of the happiest people I've met, period. I think one of them even graduated with honors.

herculinds.bsky.social•3 days ago

But there were millions of references to "trench coats."

krveale.bsky.social•3 days ago

I remembering reading a comment from a Black guy on the football team who said he talked about how incredibly, scarily racist the leader of the two were and reporters said, "that's not true, we're told he was your friend."

rolandguiscard.bsky.social•3 days ago

Oh I forgot to mention how the documentary "Bowling for Columbine," which shaped the minds of millions of people regarding the tragedy, NEVER ONCE MENTIONS THEY WERE NAZIS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_for_Columbine

rolandguiscard.bsky.social•3 days ago

I spent most of my high school years being demonized because school administrators were /certain/ that I and other "different" kids were going to shoot up the school.

Meanwhile there were kids wearing rebel flags and swastikas to school and they were never hassled.

saedraverse.bsky.social•3 days ago

Rebel flags? Can ye explain for this not American...
Oh ye mean confederate?

rolandguiscard.bsky.social•3 days ago

Yes, the "stars and bars."

This was in Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_display_of_the_Confederate_battle_flag

barkertheskrunkly.bsky.social•2 days ago

I actually had an Eric Harris-ish music taste (Rammstein, NIN, etc.) during my first two years of high school and I probably would have been pegged as a potential school shooter by folks who had been caught up in that panic.

usandampersand.bsky.social•3 days ago

This was a major mindfuck as someone who grew up in Colorado. The line was always "oh no! Gotta pay attention to the weird lonely kid!" Which as a weird lonely kid, was again, a mindfuck.

maraleia.bsky.social•3 days ago

The acceleration of right-wing domestic terrorism coincided with the rise of Rush Limbaugh and FOX "News" in the 1990s.

audes-wisent.bsky.social•3 days ago

Plenty of people either don't want to admit there's a nazi problem or they align with the ideas but are pussing out on admitting it. Either would be worth Tartaros.

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