Plus he wants an unqualified White Christian nationalist to be the Secretary of Defense. He's getting his ducks in a row and don't think for an instant Muslims won't be caught up in this too.
Initial actions are going to come fast and furious in an effort to please his followers and disorient the “libs.” We have to be ready — inoculate ourselves against the onslaught, and be relentless with our senators, reps, and governors about standing firm and fighting back. We are a power block!
He said he'd do this while campaigning. We live in the dumbest times where a criminal grifter who literally tells us what he's going to do is then not necessarily ignored ( God forbid he not have us all on the edge of seats) but excused as not really meaning it by the media. MSM will fall in line
The Trump deportation train is moving fast - and my fear based on what I observing in Queens NY is that the resistance will have a tough time given popular support for deportations- & Eric Adams ties to Trump. I hope the resistance ramps up faster. #projectunderdog #FightDeportations
I expect there will be a lot of people arming up when the trump administration starts any deportation process. I wonder how popular the program will be after many enforcers have been killed.
I have friends whose kids joined the national guard to do good. I can’t even imagine these barely 20-something college kids being subjected to carry out this travesty!
Lemme guess...The National Emergency will then be extended to anyone protesting said deportations, then even further to anyone protesting ANYTHING. I'm right aren't I? Wow, and I thought we were going to turn into Russia but I guess we're going straight to N Korea.
It's plainly obvious Trump is the political equivalent of Walter White in "Breaking Bad". Trump's ability to lie to his cult and have them believe what he says, be angered by his cultural wedges and buy into his false claims of grievance are akin to the addictive qualities of Walter's 96% crack.
The addictive qualties of Trump's gaslighting, lies and deceit are purely for the benefit of Trump without regard for the destruction wreaked on the masses. The pervasive political machine he has manufactured is proof of the weak, spineless worms which populate the MAGA party. Not sure how to fix.
Since (theoretically) they'll only be rounding up immigrants, is this legal? He can't use Military on citizens, but can he on NON citizens? And will they demand papers from everybody or only brown people?
Well now we either have to risk it all and deal with what comes or perhaps a more aggressive answer is finally due to come from the left. They certainly wouldn't expect it and a new civil event seems to be the best answer at this point, I'm tired of looking like the weak side all the time.
Trump has been reading from Hitler's script for some time now. Hispanic immigrants will be his Jewish scourge; a focus for hatred. Hoffer once said that a movement can exist without a God, but now without the devil. Trump has created many devils & his followers are hungry for their Kristallnacht.
Now we can watch the NYT and WaPo try to explain the definition and criteria for a "National Emergency." They will give examples from the past. They won't, however, suggest this falsely an excuse for an abuse of presidential power.
So it doesn't say anything about those being deported having to be in the country illegally. Is the plan to deport first and ask questions later? Good God.
He had four years to build a wall, figure out an infrastructure bill, fix healthcare...
There's no way he's going to round up 1/6 of the countries population and deport them.
It's be over a million people per month.
Or.
Hire more asylum judges.
Go back to 2017 and let him build his stupid wall. When it does nothing for no one, his balloon will be deflated and his political capital no more. This is one way the filibuster fosters extremism.
Border crossings have plummeted this year. What’s the emergency? If we had a rational administration coming in we’d pass the immigration bill and be off the a great start of actually addressing immigration issues. Cruelty is the point.
My heart will not bleed...They voted for him,hell fire will rain for 4 years.
They are going to have to feel the pain,to the understand what they just did.
And if in 4 years they change there mind,fine but do not expect us to thank you.
What’s good news about this? I suggest the round up of traitors against our Constitution instead. Bye bye MAGA! Bye bye to the traitorous officials currently in power. I believe they are by far more dangerous than any other group. Let’s focus on the real threat.
In what capacity can the military be used? They aren’t law enforcement and have no arrest powers, not to mention no training or jurisdiction to enforce immigration law. So we become a police state with military roaming the streets.
The point is, it will be a mandate to be implemented in schools that receive federal funding, not that someone is going to come knocking on your door. Although I wouldn't put that past them.
So, Biden hears this, and does, NOTHING??!! Biden is STILL the President, with STUNNING, SCOTUS-embued super-powers, and he us going to do NOTHING at all??!!!....print out the name of EVERY person here in the US and PARDON them...we are fluncking
our "How to STOP the Nazis " Test...
If it's such a great idea, start with the red states.
Instead, he's starting with a blue state (Colorado). That shows he knows it will hurt their economies. I bet no red state/county will see any mass deportations.
Who's miliitarizing the federal government? Trump!!!
I fear that this is partly a ploy to get the military in the streets and keep them there to police the rest of us. He will not lift the national emergency, especially if there are protests of his actions.
Guy who spent literally the last few months on the campaign trail quoting A. Hitler verbatim, actually admitting he's going to do some Hitler stuff! 😢
He & the GOP already have their Enabling Act.
How does national emergency law work? Is it constrained to an area? The military follows legal orders even if ugly.
OTOH Americans have never seen the military deployed domestically and it will be a shock.
50-50 he does it from the Capitol steps during his inauguration address. Along with pardoning the J6ers.
And if you want a truly dark scenario, in doing so he could effectively deputize all the gun toters who came to DC for the event or who are back home after the "friendly" rally on the 6th.
When the countries trump wants to deport people to refuse to let the planes land, then what happens? Remember, the FIRST plan the Nazis had for Europe’s Jews was deportation.
So go to war with half of Latin America or just use them as a captive labor force for large corporations, allowing them to dramatically cut labor costs while increasing profits — a win-win in MAGA world.
Old history. Look forward. How will trump deal with it if those countries simply shut down their airports to the deportation flights, blocking runways with vehicles. Not difficult to do, is it?
What is trump's Plan B? The Nazis had one when deportation failed, does trump?
That's ok. I don't particularly care what someone did nearly ninety years ago that has nothing whatsoever to do with a plan to deport 20 million people next year. Since we're likely to be paying for it, I'm interested in how it's going to work.😎☮️
The ones with serious criminal offenses will serve time in the US then be deported when they finish serving time. That is how it has always been in the US.
But it seems that Trump and his cult are OK with pardoning these criminals and deport them hence give them their freedom rather than serving their time in prison for the crimes they committed.
“I’m a big believer in that people should get exactly what they voted for” I’m of the same view, the electorate are entering the ‘find out’ phase of voting this man into power. #MassDeportations #C4news #MattFrei
Democrats failed us too. Most latinos in the us are not ideological purists. I am a middle class college educated latina. Originally I was a McCain republican because we are conservative. I moved center left. Most working class latinos were struggling with inflation. Dems failed in their messaging.
Well Mayita when you get deported you might think that Kamala was a better choice afterall.You don't vote for just the economy which is the best it's been in a long time.That is because of the Dems.Its going to get worse under Trump.Most of the people failed the Dems espically the Latinos.
Oh I am truly sorry.I voted for Kamala as well.But my point was Trump said what he was going to do when he was campaigning.None of it was good for the average https://American.im a senior so I rely on medicare and social security so that's more important then the cost of eggs.
I absolutely agree with everything you said but that has nothing to do with the failure on dem messaging and leadership. I tried to warn my community but the economy was bad for them.
No they didn’t failed in their messaging peoples hate for each other prevailed… I mean illegal people were like yeah get them out of here… like they weren’t part of “them”.
That the billionaire Bond villains bought up outlets \ platforms \ influencers for Trump was not insignificant. Dems did not \ could not counter all the levers \ propaganda from right.
Looking forward to all those Cubans, Venezuelans, And other Latinos here in Miami to freak out. Will not hesitate to tell them this is what you voted for….
I am a colombian American naturalized citizen thru an EB green card. Have been a citizen for over 10 years. In the us almost 25 years. Married to an American Anglo last name. Unlikely they will come for me. Denaturalization is a very complex process deportation is not
I tried so hard to warn them
Trumplicans don’t deal in “complicated”. This is going to hurt a lot of people. Say goodby to abuelos/ abuelas, tios/tias, etc. If this actually happens, 1/3 or more of the greater Miami region will be sent off.
I often hear, "I know he's a liar so I don't believe he'll do it."
How great of a liar is Trump? People that want deportations think he was telling the truth and people who don't think he was lying. It's crazy. I honestly don't know what he'll do, except sell more stupid stuff. That's guaranteed.
You will probably hear complaints from those who voted for him. Their "naive:(!) reason will be,"we never saw/predicted this happening"; don't buy that; they knew exactly what they were voting for!
And when their abuelita or tia favorita (favorite aunt) gets nabbed, or they get taken to the camps because they left their ID at the house, I want them to remember and own it, that they voted for this and it's on them. Pendejo!
Lots of Latinos call WNYC and say they don’t worry about deportation because it’s only for criminals. Somehow this fallacy took root in the community. About to find out the hard way.
Why do you think they voted for him? I try to imagine myself in a foreign country; I can’t see myself voting for a candidate who promised to deport ex-pats from the US, like me. I don’t get the appeal. Steven Miller wants this deportation to be brutal and vast, as do most trumpists.
I get that part, but Trump does not care one bit about food prices or rent. He will do things to enrich the billionaires, which will hurt the lower end workers. Does explaining not work?
I saw a clip last night on TikTok of some Latino Trump supporter, who couldn’t even speak English, saying to a reporter that if he gets deported, it’s probably the best thing for the country, and the best thing for his kids.
Like there’s just a point that you just feel like giving up. Honestly.
Like without any irony, these types of people control our country. They literally control our country and decide the future that we’re all gonna live in.
And there’s nothing we can do about it. You just have to sit there and take it.
He’ll deport anyone including those that are not immigrants. Get your papers together if you have any color to your skin, including a spa tan. These people are vicious.
Trump is behaving like other countries are going to allow US aircraft to simply land and just drop people off, as the ✈️ just departs with everyone left on the tarmac. smdh
Wait until they selectively raid farms and businesses based on loyalty to the cult or foreign governments. I’m in an industry that is known to have 50 to 60% undocumented workers. Deportation will cripple it. And the owners of the business and most of their management voted for it.
Why am I getting the feeling that all this extreme cruelty will bite Trump and that entire administration in the ass & eventually become their undoing? Or am I being too optimistic??
all the tools the Dems were afraid to use because you know, they had to play nice, are ALL going to be used by this insane madman and his minions against us from day ONE. Whether he'll get away with it, who knows, but they have a playbook and will go full speed ahead
This is to normalize deploying US military inside the U.S. against the people that live here. It is also designed to make our troops accustomed to being deployed against people in the U.S. so they can eventually be used against citizens.
Pity that unilaterally declaring an emergency still doesn't give him that power - that's why the National Guard units he ordered to the border did nothing but drill and wash their vehicles, no authority to do anything else.
So much for the pro-Palestinian vote spoilers and their moronic “there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans” line. Now they have blood on their hands.
Off topic, but sharing a post on his social media site is called a retruth? That seems like an appropriate Orwellian term that describes his relationship to reality.
These people are evil. The objective is to inflict pain and suffering. The military just isn't configured for law enforcement actions. The reason they want to use the military is because they believe the military can use excessive force where LE can't.
Doing this humanely was never their intention and it will be executed as cheaply as possible (with people dying of neglect in transit). As Adam Serwer said, "The cruelty is the point."
Of course the "national emergency" will only be used to facilitate "illegal immigrants". There is no chance that it will be used to arrest Trump's "enemies", the ones that he has declared "enemies of the people".
Bear this in mind: This will not happen in some remote desert location. It will happen in American cities - NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Miami, Dallas, Houston ... It's a declaration of war on urban America, where he has no political support, and a desire for revenge.
Why didnt he do anything when crossings were an all time higgh in 2019...he had the House and Senate....did NOTHING......hes a blow hard....once he gets in, its back to golfing and grifting.....
Good - start by deporting all the Latrinos who voted for and/or supported him - u can throw in some Arab Americans as well & Asian Americans while you’re at it
i don't believe "fascist" and "liberal" are at all equivalent ideologies but i ABSOLUTELY believe there are plenty of fascists hiding behind the term "liberal" just waiting for poor people to be slaughtered
Anyone else eager for Biden to retire and hand over the presidency to Kamala before Inauguration Day? Not only would we have our first woman president, just think of all those MAGAs losing out on 47 merch! 😂
The real emergency will start when we lose so many people out of our workforce that support the economy, and prices increase because supply is not there.
And this is why most people voted for him - at least here in Ohio. The GOP has done a bang up job convincing the lower and middle class that all their problems are the results of immigrants. They've been relentless with this message over the past 20 years.
They really don't understand the consequences of this fascist, dystopian shit show- nor do they care.
Bevy of immigration programs at risk under Trump mass deportation plan https://thehill.com/latino/49937...
The “gift” of the announcement is maybe it will jolt the opposition to use their imaginations and humans sordid history as to how bad the rule of law became the rule of a man, and collective deprivation.
The early the opposition comes to grips with the true nature of this, the better the chance to mitigate the worst of it. Yet that likely won’t happen for stopping a moving pendulum is extremely hard.
I feel for those in the military who joined as a career and who put country and constitution before politics. Many will leave. They will leave earned benefits and retirement because they did not join the military to go to war on American soil without cause.
Yeah, but I’m sure no “good” immigrants will be swept up in this and they’ll keep picking our fruit and veggies (and keep paying taxes without any representation or benefit), right? That’s what my MAGA neighbors have told me. They tell me a lot of shit though🙄
I think the plan was to shut down public schools and set up segregation academies so the 'right' kinds of kids get school and everybody else gets farm labor.. maybe paid, maybe not.
This is the camel in the tent using military assets. It's not the last time we'll see when resistance begins, as it should and chaos distracts us from other immediate critical problems. It has an additional benefit of misdirection for his other plans.
Will he be deporting Russians that were born here during the Reagan years? The ones whose rich mommies 'vacationed' here during their pregnancies and subsequent births?
The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits using active duty personnel to "execute the laws"; however, there is disagreement over whether this language may apply to troops used in an advisory, support, disaster response, or other homeland defense role
yes, theyre all incompetent and stupid. are there a handful of intelligent evil people in there? maybe, sure. but ideally theyll be drowned out by the narcissism and idiocy of the rest
Propaganda by our Free Press, billions spent by Oligarchs, Tech spreading outright lies on every social platform, interference by foreign governments, including our own members of congress compromised and helping them. Until this is resolved, the results will be the same every single time.
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And do you really think he's going to deprive his oligarch donors of the cheap immigrant labor that their businesses thrive on? No way!
We need to figure out how to stop it.
Will civil disobedience work?
What's the best course of resistance?
That said, they really do know, when they’re hiring a 4 foot Oaxacan named Steve Sanders
The JCS is made up of: Chairman, Vice Chairman, Chiefs of the Military Branches, and Chief of the National Guard Bureau.
There's no way he's going to round up 1/6 of the countries population and deport them.
It's be over a million people per month.
Or.
Hire more asylum judges.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/coalition-letter-urges-congressional-leadership-pass-national-emergencies
They are going to have to feel the pain,to the understand what they just did.
And if in 4 years they change there mind,fine but do not expect us to thank you.
They will eventually have to institute a draft to maintain this.
our "How to STOP the Nazis " Test...
Instead, he's starting with a blue state (Colorado). That shows he knows it will hurt their economies. I bet no red state/county will see any mass deportations.
Who's miliitarizing the federal government? Trump!!!
He & the GOP already have their Enabling Act.
Is Putin calling the shots?!
OTOH Americans have never seen the military deployed domestically and it will be a shock.
And if you want a truly dark scenario, in doing so he could effectively deputize all the gun toters who came to DC for the event or who are back home after the "friendly" rally on the 6th.
Sounds like a plan.🙄
Even for other countries, not just the US. The Dominican Republic wanted to take as many as would come and FDR sunk the deal
What is trump's Plan B? The Nazis had one when deportation failed, does trump?
Including latinos.
I tried so hard to warn them
How great of a liar is Trump? People that want deportations think he was telling the truth and people who don't think he was lying. It's crazy. I honestly don't know what he'll do, except sell more stupid stuff. That's guaranteed.
Not she ain't
They won't be able to deport 20 millions. It will be a 💩 show. I bet not even 1 million. But they voted for this and we will get it. All of it.
And rent and food prices are insane. Ad a group we aren't ideological purist. More pragmatic than anything.
You don't have the luxury of purity if you are hungry
People in poverty want law and order and jobs.
Then they came for the Tios but I did nothing...
Then they came for the mijas...
I was like yes they are. He ran on that
Latest count shows Trump got the 2nd most votes ever & Harris got the 4th most votes ever.
If the numbers are accurate…
Like there’s just a point that you just feel like giving up. Honestly.
And there’s nothing we can do about it. You just have to sit there and take it.
He tied his left shoe, not the right shoe as he previously claimed.
https://bsky.app/profile/make-it-make-sense.bsky.social/post/3lbabwgv43223
We urgently need more petitions like the one below (which is full but a great example)
https://chng.it/SP6xQzhS8m
Welcome to the dictatorship the most ignorant people in America just voted for.
Operation Wetback
https://www.history.com/news/operation-wetback-eisenhower-1954-deportation
I'm just so disgusted
Horrific.
Bevy of immigration programs at risk under Trump mass deportation plan
https://thehill.com/latino/49937...
How long will the Trump Regime be willing to pay for their care?
Then what?
Mexico won't do it.
I think the plan was to shut down public schools and set up segregation academies so the 'right' kinds of kids get school and everybody else gets farm labor.. maybe paid, maybe not.
The USA risks losing all respect and credibilty in the world.
Time for some clarity perhaps
Trump has 4 years of bigots signing up to imprison migrants & their children
They've had 4-8 years to get promoted
They will follow his orders after he gets rid of the leaders that will oppose him
This is his design
He may be evil as fжck
But you are misguided to think he lacks intelligence
Trump is dumb AF, but those who helped him attain power, for a 2nd time,are not
Days ago with a billionaire & the CURRENT Speaker of the House standing to be in the picture