A lesson from the TikTok Affair should be that bipartisan efforts to preserve U.S. national security are vulnerable to the incoming president getting bought off and switching sides for his own personal and political benefit. Not great!
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Trump has always been like that. Since his very beginnings he is a spineless coward draft dodger so us baby boomers are not surprised he doesn’t stand for anything substantial. He will say crazy stuff for the next 4 years to keep you distracted from the fact he is a lucky mental midget.
Or collecting data without the knowledge of Users. US companies send our data to the NSA and FBI without a warrant. Have the politicians pontificating about lack of privacy on Tiktok defunded NSA Surveillance or Proposed Privacy Legislation to protect User Data? Cc: @aclu.org @fightforthefuture.org
Elon Musk got China to give him a factory in Shanghai. It started production in December 2019. China copied Tesla’s trade secrets and gave them to its own car companies, which immediately started cranking out cheap Tesla knockoffs that now dominate the Asian EV markets.
If you can’t see that the FBI is more of a threat to you personally than the PRC is, then I don’t know what to tell you. I’m profoundly unconcerned that the PRC will come knock on my door because I criticized United Healthcare.
The issue isn’t that Tik Tok is a threat to US national security. The issue is that congress believed it to be and passed a law to that effect. The (not yet) president has now overridden that law despite it not being in the power of the executive. This suggests congress has no power.
You seem unable to explain yourself coherently? So you agree that TikTok is a national security threat, you just don't think the bill goes far enough? Or are you saying that TikTok is not a national security threat? You should try to think about this logically before insulting others' intelligence.
Most portfolios in the United States are overleveraged with Meta! It’s one of the reasons why they want to shut down TikTok! If Meadow goes belly up investors lose their ass! Follow the money, not the rhetoric!
I was told by a financier the other day that the super 7 stocks of all rich people are meta, Tesla, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Apple and one other I can’t remember and I realized: oh we are in trouble.
Definitely, we are in trouble when government can be used to pull a bunch of gamblers out of their hole because they don’t know what fiscal responsibility is!
National Security should never be a reason to stomp on our civil liberties. We have historical examples of this and can see how we’ve gotten it wrong in the past. We need LEADERSHIP that is capable of learning from the past.
Dems stay so busy unconsciously virtual signaling that they can't use their critical thinking skills or think strategically. The fact Dems voted for the ban (because China is stealing our data?) while posting about it on X/Meta/🦋 (who are definitely not using your data 🤣🤣🤣) was so naive and dumb.
What a hot take! Unconscious "virtue signaling"? If it's unconscious, could it POSSIBLY be that it's a legitimate want for all people to just exist peacefully? Of all the things to accuse a large group of doing, that's a strange one. Very telling that social justice doesn't even occur to you.
You're all over the shop to the point of incoherency. I'm talking specifically about Dems misguidedly voting to censor Americans by banning tictok, and you're talking about whirled peas. You're a mess.
If only we could have had a clue about Trump’s criminality and corruption sometime during the past 40 years of reporting on his life of criminality and corruption.
Right! All those words went on deaf ears - many were just trying to survive, perhaps blindly following, and maybe now just realizing the con of it all.
I think trumpies align and identify a lot with red pill content. (The root of all evil) they d ride the rich bc they think they can be them, they hate women and their healthcare (all under the guise of “traditional nuclear family”) just overall a tumor on society as a whole.
And say Americans seem to not care if it impacts their entertainment. Read HCR today and tell me that not only is TikTok a risk but that so are meta and Twitter (I refuse to call it X). But easier to shut down the foreign owned issue first. Much harder to regulate the rest.
The ban has absolutely nothing to do with national security! It was because politicians didn't want the people to know the truth about their corruption!
We must believe that there are some devoted patriots at the core concealing or destroying dangerously sensitive information. It must be done to save the republic.
China was usurping info.
Trump in 2020 by executive order tried to ban TikTok
Biden reversed in 2021.
Ended up at Supreme Court
Now banned, 1-19-25
KOT gonna ride to the rescue of TikTok, after starting the whole mess. Should or shouldn’t don’t care. What I do care about is KOT is a two faced liar.
You want to "preserve national security", U.S.?!?!?!? Try not electing a proven traitor as president nor worshipping a billionaire illegal immigrant to pull his strings.
"You are what you eat" and its no coincidence that US satisfaction index has grown darker with the growth of "easy" to control outlets from foreign actors.
I mean...Facebook released a comprehensive work on perception manipulation in 2014 to show how this done.
...and there is no reason for the CCP which has its hands on TikTok via ByteDance to not be thinking about framing the perception of the US via these channels. Even more telling...no US media companies or affiliates are allowed to run in China...so why should the US allow Chinese adjacent media...
What does this have to do with TikTok being owned by ByteDance? The Russians ran an influence campaign on Facebook in 2020. You don’t need to own the platform to run an influence operation.
This is not an argument for banning a platform that 170 million Americans rely on.
Both Twitter and Facebook share their data with Chinese firms. And Trump did try to take TikTok and failed then Biden signed it into law. I hate Trump too but he isn’t connected to the successful banning of TikTok. Though he is taking advantage of this bad situation the Democrats allowed to happen.
It’s the 2nd part of the statement that has truth.
All social media platforms compromise & spread disinfo.
Nation security is indeed at risk but not due to TT. China has us by the cajones.
Tiktok is an absolute valid threat to national security. (From someone in the industry) of course selling it and banning it is not the answer, but stronger data privacy laws and tiktok changing its data mining.
Separate valid issues from politics
Please do walk me through how TikTok is a threat to national security in a way that is different than other social media platforms. Please be specific.
It is not just about data mining as it is about back-end server manipulations, suppression of pro-Western, elevation of pro-China, the elevation of anti-Western, suppression of Western discourse on China, and digital genocide of Uyghurs and Tibetans. The Supreme Court was unanimous.
He didn't let me get there. He immediately changed the subject to personal attacks, while i specifically asked him to wait for the entire thread to be done.
The servers are hosted by Oracle in the US. Please do make a cogent argument as to what and how they are doing this instead of making declarative claims they are doing it.
As a chinese company , the Chinese govt have power to harvest the private information you provided. Its mainly so it can monitor its own population . It is why the UK govt won't permit TT on any govt staff works issue phones and advise against it on private phones for staff too.
In this instance it seem his grandiose narcissism, not that he woudn't sell out national security for other reasons. He stupidly thinks that because millions follow him on TikTok they will watch his inauguration there instead of on TV. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-tiktok-inauguration/
This had nothing to do with national security. This had everything to do with control the lines of communication. Controlling what we saw out of Gaza. Controlling info on their made up enemies.
DAY ONE he is manipulating Article II Section 3 of our Constitution by “delaying” implementation since he has no authority to ignore the law. Yup not starting with an economic plan for working class starting with stepping on our Constitution. JOIN US and crush these guys in 2026
Or that the TikTok ban was never about security in the first place and that actual privacy legislation that applies to all platforms is what is actually needed, not one off bans for the apps a few leaders don’t like largely on the basis of xenophobia than any real threat.
TikTok ban is a problem for incoming President Musk. A quarter of Tesla revenues come from China. And, it puts Musk’s plan to build another Tesla factory in China in jeopardy.
Review the contract you agree to in order to use it. Wealthy oligarchs have legally bribed lawmakers on both sides to halt it for years. Will Trump prioritize security over accepting the money?
There is very little security concern as TikTok uses the same permissions as almost every other app. If this were an actual risk, the military would ban it on base.
Yes but a bigger lesson is that half of the voting public can be easily manipulated into voting to dismantle the constitution by twice electing a known criminal and traitor.
We already know he's kissing the ring like every other tech dude. This is the Guilded age of Tech. History has a bad habit of repeating itself 😔 thanks for the follow 😊
That's life in an autocratic oligarchy. I feel like my rapist is telling me to relax and try to enjoy it because it's going to happen and you can't stop it.
The GOP have been doing that since 1960. In 1979 the hey stopped hiding it when that Malignant CSk Reagan traitor got into bed with Iran to win the election. The last thing they care about are the 99% who aren't wealthy. Fkrz.
A lesson from the TikTok affair is that none of these people ever cared about national security in the first place. This is an elite class of people from BOTH parties working together to manipulate us while keeping us fighting about a friggin bathroom. It's class warfare and 99% of us are losing.
True story: I had never hit another person...and as a kid I got the crap beat out of me regularly which on a side note is TOTALLY unrelated to all this brain damage that makes me so adorable...I learned how to TALK so people THOUGHT I would/could fight. I've still never hit anyone.
Reminds me of a Terry Pratchett scene... When two muggers ambush a very large man then stop and say, "We're sorry, we mistook you for someone else" before fleeing.
That's because people are still trying to fight the fight with words and votes not realizing that the only way to win is by visiting the Blessings of Saint Luigi on every Oligarch, every bought politician, and every member of the ruling elite as the French did in 1793.
Democracy in the US died with citizen's united, and even though Biden pledged to fail to meet the moment, people put their trust in the cowardly moron instead of castigating him for his stupidity constantly like he deserved.
Hence his abysmal approval rating.
I'm embarrassed to admit I got to the word Saint and rolled my eyes thinking I was about to read some religious stuff. Glad I finished before I commented. I had gone two whole hours without saying something dumb...I think but maybe I'm too dumb to know I did it...either way glad I finished.
Classism and Racism are cousins. They are often interconnected and reinforce one another. Don't all grab the mic at one time now. The sense of urgency to address these deeply rooted problems is because of the cousin no one wants to talk about.
racism is at the root of almost all of our problems in America since before there even was an America. the difference now is that if one of DT black conservative friends in DC stomped out me the poor disabled white dude I think it is fair to say which one of us he would defend.
Exactly...a rich white conservative stomps out a rich black conservative that one is equally as obvious. Point is...trump isn't nearly as clever as people make him out to be. He is SO obvious people either embrace it or convince themselves no one could possibly be that awful and obvious.
As billionaires buy elections and take our rights and freedoms and money...TikTok isn't the point. The class warfare is the point. See trumps post just today about the elite americans lined up to buy half of TikTok. Nation security isn't the point. It's that they weren't profiting. The End.
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No worries, Trump repealed the law.
The individuals who control us were in the front row at Trump's speech. (traditionally those seats go to Governors & SCOTUS)
Once they are done with Trump, they'll cast him aside too.
If it is class warfare how are TikTok owners your allies,
"Bob"?
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Why are you here then, tearing the shirt on your octogenarian, if the pic is yours, chest?
All tech CEOs are not your friends. Everyone of them exploits its users for personal gain. But instead of cracking down on the exploitation, they try to paint China as the evil ones making our country unsafe. Last I checked, META has been much worse for way longer.
We are. They divided us and conquered us. We are dumb enough to not understand the exploitation and diminishing freedoms. We happily give up healthcare and affordable living so the top 5% can can become billionaires. They tricked us to thinking they are the smartest and most deserving. They exploit
I felt like this when suddenly bathrooms was a fight as if a stall that already exists wasn't the solution. or when suddenly black history was 'we taught them stuff they used later'. it's been getting more and more blatant every single day and we just kept getting dumber.
im not sure there ever has been but since this is the only country i live in I have to also own the results of what's happening because I have to live whats happening everyone else is welcome to say that sentence as they wish but I'm stuck in this and frankly I'm stuck in it alone.
META if I understand it correctly SOLD their users info to other countries. I'm amazed people still aren't seeing this as the class warfare and manipulation that it is. Trump and his owners will buy 50% (or be given) and suddenly everything will be...just....fine with them.
Yep.
The only difference is, META is still susceptible to some pressure from (whatever is the current government in) the US. TikTok isn't.
It is a class warfare with a reminder that it is not limited to the state of current residence.
Agreed.
Let's say, CCP would be the one owner on whom we would not be able to extend the regulations even if we had robust regulations.
And yet, TikTok defenders are defending the CCP as "the good ones".
People still aren't getting it. An insurrection supporting draft dodging document stealing rapist was mad because neither him or the people who currently own him were profiting. This had zero to do with national security or China. It's all about the profit as it always is with them.
Trump's attitude is transactional.
But we are not discussing Trump's 5 mins of TikTok hate, or the last 5 mins of love,
The bill was passed by the Congress. I am not loving it, but I don't see any start for so regulations, including that of digital sovereignty, as "bad" either
No no....US companies are allowed to steal our info buy our government and take our rights BECAUSE they are a US company and our elites get paid off it. Now see trump today talking about buying up 50% of TikTok suddenly it's not a national security threat. Moral of the story same as always...
We wish!
We wish the CCP was "just doing capitalism"
The CCP is doing one party rule + Han-Chinese nationalist+ surveillance state + crony capitalism
And if it sounds a lot like a fascism, that's because 🤷
The checks and balances in our constitution should be preventing it. But they’re not. Nobody enforced the emoluments clause. Then SCOTUS ruled that the president is effectively above the law. So, what else should anyone have expected?
It was not a threat to the people it was a threat to the government. The people are still in danger, from our own government. This was a feedom they stripped for reasons that when discussed fall apart.
A lot of people are saying China is spreading communism. Really? Like sharing Chinese culture? Why would they try to turn people into communists when they have the most billionaires in the world? More likely China wants to sell their products so they can profit. But that is not a communist agenda
Damn Matt, when will Dems ever learn the actual lesson. The real lesson is Dems are completely out of touch with their citizens and that bipartisanship with fascists never ends well.
Yet here you are still pushing that national security nonsense. Next time just vote for trump yourself.
To believe TikTok is threat to national security you have to believe that somehow TikTok was collecting more data on you than Meta,X or the NSA. TikTok has its servers in the USA for America. This wasn’t about national security. It was about money and losing market share to a foreign competitor.
I think ultimately this ban was about controlling information and minds, thought of making money on it was a bonus. The timing of Democrats jumping onboard coincided with Israel being angry that the U.S. was unsuccessful in manufacturing consent on behalf of what Israel was doing in Palestine.
Meta et al saw an opportunity to eliminate its major competitor, Congress saw a great opportunity to boost their investment in Meta, so yeah… a coalition born in hell.
I think that TikTok represents a potential, rather than actualized, national security threat. But where the servers are located has zero bearing on this, as China is connected to the Internet.
And PUH-LEEZE!!! Let's not lose sight of the fact that Zuckerberg lobbied HARD to eliminate his fiercest competition. Also check out how much META stock Congress has. #FollowTheMoney
Exactly, it’s all about the money. They don’t care about anything else. They just want to scare you into thinking that China is evil so they can ban Chinese products and services. China is our competition and they out compete us in every market. Their GDP grows by 10% while ours grows by 2-3%.
I believe the 12 hour shutdown of Tiktok was a changing of servers FROM Bytedance TO META. Just my theory. The app feels strange BEYOND Don-the-Con pretending to save the day. (He ALWAYS has an angle)
If bytedance really did just turn their servers over to meta, it would have happened at a top level I can't see actually migrating so much data. Especially without completely wrecking the system. I've been part of several such migrations. 12 hours just isn't long enough.
TikTok isn’t any worse than Meta, Musk, and Google. Trump and Musk are destroying the USA from the inside out and you’re worried about TikTok? TikTok doesn’t have your SSN and every bit of personal information from OPM and the US treasury. Wake up!
There is zero evidence that Tiktok is a threat to anyone. There was no classified briefing in Congress on Tiktok. This is a witch hunt, plain and simple, and a reflection of our own decline as an empire, trying to fend off a rival.
Basically the TikTok ban killed two birds with one stone for those in power, it killed a major source of independently sourced information outside the scope of the US controlled narrative and eliminated a major competitor of one of congresses major investments, Meta.
One difference is that TikTok gives its data to a foreign geopolitical rival government and the other just harvests it to monetize and sell you crap. They aren’t the same thing.
This is similar to the witch-hunt against other Chinese telecom and network hardware co. The USA is losing the competition against Chinese computers, telecoms and EVs. So what do we do? Scream national security and ban them. We can’t compete. iPhones are Chinese made. Should they be banned too?
As others have said, there is no proof of that occurring. TikTok made sure its American servers were protected in the USA. TikTok is a company based in Singapore and is owned by the Chinese. So that makes it bad? China is more concerned with its own market of a billion people.
There is ZERO evidence for Tiktok sharing data with the Chinese. Show it if you have it. This is witch hunt, plain and simple. Do you really think it's safer for US billionaires to have that data? In reality, I think it's because Tiktok may not allow US IC to access the data.
This. I just made a post about the majority of users being outside the US and how our govt is using “national security” as a cover to gain further influence over global information dissemination.
They had known about TikTok for years. To avoid jeopardizing their chances for votes, they decided to wait until January 20, 2025, to take any action.
DC Leadership are fools & idiots.
What if we passed privacy legislation as they claimed US Citizens need data privacy. But they just wanted that as an excuse to censor. Google, Meta and Twitter under Elon collect our Data but nobody seems to care about that only scary Chinese Application (that's HQ'd in HK and CEO is from Singapore)
The real lesson from the TikTok Affair is that vague threats of National Security makes Useful Idiots out of Congress. How is this any different from "Weapons of Mass Destruction"?
Dems in Congress are part of this problem for allowing this ban to be in the foreign aid bill to begin with. The data security threat was always flimsy propaganda. Oracle stored and audited US TT data. The real "threat"? US tech oligarchs don't like competition and they have the best knee pads.
There was never a national security threat and some member off Congress even have admitted as much. It’s about controlling what you as an American see in hopes that you don’t see anti-American and anti-Israel content. AIPAC played a large role in this.
Watch the whole video.
Patrick Bet-David goes over the contract you OK'd.
This should have been done years ago.
Rich corporations/oligarchs paid off lawmakers on both sides to stop it.
Have a nice day. https://youtu.be/VRrqaNua4hk?si=ef-aRbOzvQfmf9rQ
This isn't news to most TikTok or other social media users. Everyone knows and expects data will be collected and behaviors and interests will be monitored. Taking things away only results in people being even more distrustful of their governments.
Most EU governments protect online privacy of their citizens. The lack of protection in the USA is due to our lobbying system, it allows special interests to "buy" votes. Profits usually take precedence over individual needs in every aspect of our lives.
Being divided works to their advantage.
Undenyably. But what they fear most is that we are realizing that Capitalism is slavery with extra steps and the best way to fix the system is not through peaceful protests and trying to vote better. But by visiting the Blessings of Saint Luigi upon all they Oligarchs and their supporters.
Congress' actions were not all that altruistic . . .
Tik Tok success was infringing upon their Meta stock . . .
You can look it up. Nearly ALL of Congress have stocks in Meta.
Why do you think Zuckberg is hanging out with Trump for his inaug.
Ty! It was a bipartisan effort, but I don't think people get that TikTok is an actual threat. They're mad their entertainment has disappeared. It's like watching kids get mad when Mom turns off the TV. (Okay, I dated myself there.)
Social media apps based in English-speaking countries are just as bad. The EU is at least trying to do something for privacy. Check out the story of Strava if you don't think it's a problem.
Yeah, in order for TikTok to be a threat, it either needs to be one of multiple things, that by aggregating and categorizing speech alone, China can create a more favorable image to it's allies, and also that this bias should be banned alone even though similar, say Fox News or X bias is protected.
the major difference being there are no oligarchical ruling class figures scripting the content on TikTok, but instead an organically developed consensus created by the People. Meanwhile US gov was and is trying to pay American creators to post about “keeping women’s sports for women” on TikTok. 🤔
Or that China directly speaking through, say, it's spies and influencers making direct propaganda content, should be uniquely banned (even though again, similae pro America, or even non threatening pro Canada content being protected.)
Or that TikTok acting as a WikiLeaks platform by freely allowing video footage from civilians being bombed in Palestine, is bad. At least this one has precedent in US Law, because it's not unique, but I would say most Americans would hate this take.
Or that TikTok acting like a computer virus, and scraping all of it's user's data off of their phones is uniquely bad, unlike Facebook who does the same thing. In general this is bad, we need something like the GDPR though because China can just buy this same data from Zuck.
It was nothing but a power play from the US, instigated by billionaires based there who hoped to eliminate an overseas social media rival for profit, and they lost.
It's never been about data security. All that's happened here is that the US got played, big time.
They are all threats.
The problem is some of the data they collect could be a national security risk, which is why they shouldn't be able to collect that information by law.
Good luck passing a law like that while we are being ruled by oligarchs.
Yeah the political establishment needs to be shattered. The 2 Party system works against people because both Demicrats and Republicans are corporate owned. We need actual leftists instead of the fascists and liberals that are all in power
Supreme Court played right into Trump hands. Now some American Billionaire will buy the platform - once they commit to algorithms that favor Trump's relentless power grab.
It's been so obvious for so long... but I suppose there is always a shred of hope. Sometimes it feels like the more blatant the grift the more gullible MAGA become. 🙈🙉🙊
Nobody was at risk but greedy US billionaires fretting their bottom line and US MAGA-ette fascists worried their spies’ info sources might be compromised from lack of use.
I would raw dog Mao’s corpse before I believe a word that spews from the lie-holes of the fascists gutting the 1st amendment.
Every Trump victory is a result of something he sabotaged on purpose so he could save it. It is something that takes no effort or time or competence or intelligence because he has none of those traits.
More like corporate backed bipartisan effort to subvert the free market. Trump undoing this for his own benefit is the least worrying piece of this whole saga.
A lesson from the TikTok Affair should be that bipartisan efforts to preserve U.S. national security are vulnerable to the done-with-democracy fascist oligarch owners already in the country and their incoming felon for their own personal and political protection. Not great!
This is how you know you are in the #BlueMagaCult.
Trump=Bad
Trump is for free speech and reinstatement of #TicTok
Censorship =Good
Ban Tic Tok cuz of TDS🤦♀️🙄
#FreeSpeech
Normie
IDGAF who is for or against free speech, gimme back my Tic Tok ! 🤷♂️🤔😉
fool! this was never about national security. It was about china-hatred. The app is immensely popular among American youth and the OLD WHITE guys in congress just couldnt stand the thought of a non-US entity gaining on our social media.
If they truly wanted to preserve US national security, Trump and a few GOP Congress members would be in jail right now.
Forgive me if I suspect that wasn’t the real reason for banning TikTok.
He’s already been bought off and has defected to the other side, why else would he have the 3 B’s working in his administration? Btw 3 B’s = Billionaire Boy Bitch’es . The strong economy is going to be destroyed and they will see unrealized wealth increase while we all suffer.
TikTok does NOT have access to anything that Zuckerberg hasn't already shared with the Russians/Chinese you are extremely naive! Largest purveyor of data/disinformation are Zuck/Musky! ALL data was breached when Amazon got hacked with ALL their vendors, so banks, grocery, medical! Long List!
Felonious Trump is a transactional opportunist. With no moral compass, if he sees an opportunity to make money he will back into the stance he needs. We all know someone like that. There are many around.
Nearly every person that voted to ban TikTok also bought stock in meta and if TikTok is such a security risk why are we able to dl other Chinese apps like lemon8
This is what happens when 60% of white men and 53% of white women aren’t man enough to vote for a woman. It’s not like we haven’t seen this movie before. Sigh. The stupidity/selfishness/lack of morality is staggering.
I still want to know what happened to all those women who registered to vote at Taylor Swift concerts over the last 2 years. Did they ultimately not show up at the polls? Or did they choose being white over being female?
Every single thing he does and has ever done, is to benefit him as an individual. There is no exception to this. If you missed that point then where have you been as I can see it from here in the UK, thousands of miles away
Another is that most US voters have no understanding whatsoever about nat'l security, border control or politics. They want jobs, cars, roads, social security, fast food, guns, football. and time-wasting apps on their phones. And, of course, lower taxes for themselves but not others.
Note how the SCOTUS won't enforce the emoluments clause anymore than it enforced the ban against insurrectionist holding office. Very selective "originalists."
This is somehow a surprise to anyone who has paid the slightest bit of attention to his abhorrent behavior his entire public life? Accept that he is a quintessential example of a raging malignant narcissist and you won't be surprised or disappointed.
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Wonder who and where they are getting that technology from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLyDtUUlY5Q#:~:text=For%20more%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fnews,in%20northwest%20China%20on%20Wednesday.
Trump in 2020 by executive order tried to ban TikTok
Biden reversed in 2021.
Ended up at Supreme Court
Now banned, 1-19-25
KOT gonna ride to the rescue of TikTok, after starting the whole mess. Should or shouldn’t don’t care. What I do care about is KOT is a two faced liar.
That ship already sailed and sunk with Biden's appointment of Merrick Garbage
"You are what you eat" and its no coincidence that US satisfaction index has grown darker with the growth of "easy" to control outlets from foreign actors.
I mean...Facebook released a comprehensive work on perception manipulation in 2014 to show how this done.
Anyway....anyone who feels there is nothing to see here on the TikTok incident needs to re-examine their position.
This is not an argument for banning a platform that 170 million Americans rely on.
Thats the point that everyone has been trying to make.
170M Americans will live without TikTok. Can't believe this has to be said out loud.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/01/china-data-propaganda-aspi-report/
https://www.reuters.com/technology/block-blue-ticks-how-china-became-big-business-twitter-2022-09-13/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/01/china-data-propaganda-aspi-report/
Watch to the end:
https://youtu.be/VRrqaNua4hk?si=ef-aRbOzvQfmf9rQ
All social media platforms compromise & spread disinfo.
Nation security is indeed at risk but not due to TT. China has us by the cajones.
US has destroyed many countries and when a country defends and pushes back they get painted as evil.
US needs to pass data privacy legislation but they are lobbied by META and others. Just blame China though.
Separate valid issues from politics
You guys gotta stop repeating stuff thats sent to you by fyps
If you think they wouldn't, you're incredibly gullible
Could China capture data from other social media apps? Sure. Is it infinitely easier when they *own* the app?
In order of magnitudes easier.
I work in the software industry. Apps are *incredibly complex*. That complexity enables exploits that can easily hide in millions of lines of code
The answer is there are near-infinite ways
Just say you have no idea why you think it’s a national security threat and be on your way.
The sign of a declining republic.
Looking forward to the sycophant who suggests the Pax Americana and that Trump rebrand himself Augustus.
Democracy in the US died with citizen's united, and even though Biden pledged to fail to meet the moment, people put their trust in the cowardly moron instead of castigating him for his stupidity constantly like he deserved.
Hence his abysmal approval rating.
https://youtu.be/VRrqaNua4hk?si=ef-aRbOzvQfmf9rQ
No worries, Trump repealed the law.
The individuals who control us were in the front row at Trump's speech. (traditionally those seats go to Governors & SCOTUS)
Once they are done with Trump, they'll cast him aside too.
"Bob"?
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Why are you here then, tearing the shirt on your octogenarian, if the pic is yours, chest?
The only difference is, META is still susceptible to some pressure from (whatever is the current government in) the US. TikTok isn't.
It is a class warfare with a reminder that it is not limited to the state of current residence.
Let's say, CCP would be the one owner on whom we would not be able to extend the regulations even if we had robust regulations.
And yet, TikTok defenders are defending the CCP as "the good ones".
But we are not discussing Trump's 5 mins of TikTok hate, or the last 5 mins of love,
The bill was passed by the Congress. I am not loving it, but I don't see any start for so regulations, including that of digital sovereignty, as "bad" either
We wish the CCP was "just doing capitalism"
The CCP is doing one party rule + Han-Chinese nationalist+ surveillance state + crony capitalism
And if it sounds a lot like a fascism, that's because 🤷
No-one will want to sign trade deals with us if we lash out at neighbors with tarrifs.
Happening. Everything g he is doing is against the law. Who enforces this shit?!
Yet here you are still pushing that national security nonsense. Next time just vote for trump yourself.
Also that much data moving from one data center to another, would have been visible and had a serious impact on everyone else's network.
China could just wake up one day change the settings and make every user bombarded with a certain POV and MORE aggressive / at each others throats.
China shouldn’t have that power
The concern was that they could manipulate the public.
Like they just did by going dark and posting "Maybe Trump can save us??"
Now we're just pretending it's this bastion of progressive voices?
It's a brand. It's an app. We'll get another one
The people are what make content special.
DC Leadership are fools & idiots.
Patrick Bet-David goes over the contract you OK'd.
This should have been done years ago.
Rich corporations/oligarchs paid off lawmakers on both sides to stop it.
Have a nice day.
https://youtu.be/VRrqaNua4hk?si=ef-aRbOzvQfmf9rQ
Being divided works to their advantage.
Tik Tok success was infringing upon their Meta stock . . .
You can look it up. Nearly ALL of Congress have stocks in Meta.
Why do you think Zuckberg is hanging out with Trump for his inaug.
Slap it in the face of every D Congress- and Senatecritter.
https://www.wired.com/story/strava-heat-map-military-bases-fitness-trackers-privacy/
The bigger threat, of course, is the fact that we arent even pretending that laws matter anymore.
It's never been about data security. All that's happened here is that the US got played, big time.
The problem is some of the data they collect could be a national security risk, which is why they shouldn't be able to collect that information by law.
Good luck passing a law like that while we are being ruled by oligarchs.
I would raw dog Mao’s corpse before I believe a word that spews from the lie-holes of the fascists gutting the 1st amendment.
This is fine. We def need that.
But the Big Ds are integral to the ‘bipartisan’ kumbaya of fascist population control that is the TT debacle.
I’m an ant w/zero to fear from China & everything to fear from US fascists.
And he absolutely would. He used his last term to place the right people - and now he’s about to consolidate power.
TikTok is the canary.
The rest of the dominos will fall quickly.
https://bsky.app/profile/mattgertz.bsky.social/post/3lg3zndtsuc2s
Trump=Bad
Trump is for free speech and reinstatement of #TicTok
Censorship =Good
Ban Tic Tok cuz of TDS🤦♀️🙄
#FreeSpeech
Normie
IDGAF who is for or against free speech, gimme back my Tic Tok ! 🤷♂️🤔😉
Forgive me if I suspect that wasn’t the real reason for banning TikTok.
https://www.cpr.org/2024/12/30/kids-online-safety-act-failed-to-pass/
That we may be manipulated in some way? Most people do not see a distinction between US billionaires manipulating us or Xi Jinping doing it.
Frankly I would rather see two
Coincidentally, the ONLY president with a 34 felony count.
Weird
Now Trump and his tech buddies will have a few months to see work out how they can profit financially and/or politically from the fate of TikTok.
The TikTok affair is nothing more than smokescreen.