JUST IN: International students make up more than a quarter of Harvard University's student body. Harvard says the government's actions, which could cut off a major revenue stream, are "unlawful."
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Who would ever have imagined that a US president would try to bring down Harvard, which is considered among the best if not the best university in the world & has existed longer than the US itself, founded about 150 years before the Constitution was written. Most sane Americans are proud of Harvard.
This framing sucks. We all benefit from the smartest people in the world coming to the United States to be educated. Adding the clause “could cut off a major revenue stream” makes it seem like that’s the basis of their argument and then you scare quote “unlawful”? What are you doing
A Nazi commissar was appointed at Frankfurt University in 1933, after Hitler came to power. This was the beginning of ideological purges, faculty dismissals, and the enforcement of Nazi policies within the university.
I am guessing Barron or one of the other Trump kids applied and was rejected from Harvard. And like many rejected from their dream school, foolishly believe a minority took their rightful spot.
Harvard should investigate their Republican politician alumni and find out if there’s any cause to revoke their degrees. That should help them wake up.
The broader Trumpsky project is to separate Americans from the rest of the world and control our affinity for traveling and learning about other cultures. North Korea here we come!
Wow. Another reason why the U.S will lose even more scientist and educated people to other countries. The U.S have had a history of importing talented people, thereby enriching the country with their innovations and prosperity. Let this continue and you will be left behind in more ways than one.
i seriously do not get it - how does the president of the united states ever get a say in who can be admitted to a college? frack him and his nazi cronies.
STAND HIM DOWN, HARVARD!
SHOW HIM WHO'S ACTUALLY IN CHARGE.
Harvard needs to hire a ball busting big firm that didn't cave in the Trump and then kick the crap out of whatever idiot lawyer the DOJ sends in to try and defend Trump’s unlawful action.
The GOP always talks about government overreach - this is a shining example of the worst kind of overreach! Just because Harvard won’t capitulate, the administration is going to try to destroy an institution! This is authoritarianism full stop. HOMELAND SECURITY IS OUT OF CONTROL!
Harvard should call their bluff - Trump doesn't believe anyone should be getting Harvard degrees, but many of his supporters on Wall Street and industry who send their kids to elite schools might beg to differ.
We need standards, of course, but controlling what you can teach and who can learn is about as anti-democratic, as anti-American as one can get.
“A republican form of government without intelligence in the people must be a prologue to a farce or a tragedy; or perhaps both.” Horace Mann
You are Harvard.
How the ,,,, can you let Trump, the village idiot, manipulate you?
You are of superior intellect and can walk circles around him in court.
So the question is, what are you waiting for?
You know what else,
When you lead, others will have the confidence to follow.
Now lead!
Did Threatening Barbie come with this all on her own or did she have some help from Barron’s dad who’s angry his son wasn’t accepted anywhere. He just ‘taking classes’ at NYU. I mean, why else would dear leader have spent 9 months being coy about where Barron was going to go?
Well they are for revenue. Most do not even deserve to be enrolled. Such as the daughter of Chinas leader. She is a talent? Give me a break. Rich rich rich kids
If you are implying “most” international students do not deserve to be at Harvard, that’s a problematic statement. Why don’t they deserve to be? Also, children of powerful Americans gain acceptance at Harvard. Some of them are good students and some aren’t. Some of them buy their way in. Yes. Some.
"Harvard says the government's actions,... are 'unlawful.'" Given that every objective observer considers the administration's actions as arbitrary and capricious, perhaps the lede should be: The unlawful actions of the government... No need to wait for adjudication of behavior this egregious.
It is unlawful. And, we continue to call out the wrong in the Trump administration, hoping Congratulations will grow some balls. But, the fact is they have no balls.
If we disagree with something it's time we make calls to the right people or choose someone inline w/democracy.
Payback time.
Harvard should
have taken
Fred Trump's
money & admitted
his blockhead
son, even though
he never did
his homework &
was always
grabbing the girls
by their
(private parts).
When something violates the Constitution or federal laws, it can be restricted or struck down through judicial review—the process by which courts, especially the Supreme Court, interpret and enforce constitutional principles.
Think whatever you want: US is no longer a democracy. Trump answers to no one. He rules as a king, a tyrant. He single handed turned allies into enemies and showed the world America cannot be trusted.
So, is the escalation law enforcement raiding Harvard, snatching up foreign students?
As for legality, Trump's Executive Order 14215 requires all executive branch members to use His interpretation of the law. So far, they have done so with minimal consequences. Hope this changes that.
I guess DJtRump is going to come out and say Losing actually means Winning Now 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
I posted my yearly donation early....Thank you Harvard, I learned to be a independent women with my own mind and not someone else telling me that I have to be something that I am not...as many have to do!
Princess Elisabeth of Belgium is currently studying at Harvard. I hope our king Filip will have (and use) enough influence to undo Trumps petty action for all foreign students.
Go global.
Start #Harvard campuses abroad.
Teach remotely. The technology is already there.
No more visa issues. No more Magats interference.
Truck Fump!
The logic of going after a University that trains some of the top lawyers eludes me. Even if those lawyers are Republican, their loyalty to the University overrides everything.
Dear Harvard-
Your output on Legal Scholars is beyond reproach. Thus your capabilities of placing this Administration in line on this issue for yourselves and our Country now rests solely upon your shoulders.
~ Future Generations
"The school has been the subject of controversy and criticism, particularly regarding its role in training personnel involved in human rights abuses and political repression in Latin America."
Fucking insane, noems dictat is unrealistic and unreasonable, they want Harvard to provide all data including videos and media, they can on all their foreign students from the last 5 years. Trump admin is so ham fisted in everything they do
BREAKING: Trump enters his "Pol Pot Phase." Intellectuals, researchers, artists and musicians are in jeopardy. In short, MAGA can't tolerate smart people.
There is probably so many pro bono harvard lawyer students begging to take the case because it is all very blatantly unlawful and would be an easy and amazing case to have on their resume.
Um… harass innocent 18 year olds trying to become highly educated with great potential to be beacons of society but pardon grown ass ignorant convicted felonious j6ers that have had 20+ years to “learn good” but chose to get their learnin from faux *news. 😖🤦🏽♀️
This is also breaking news in Germany. I have chills, because of our history. Dismantling the Sciences, bringing them in line, excluding scientist, that are not fitting in their plan, we saw this before. I know so many foreign students over here and I could imagine what this means for them. Anxiety
The topic in today’s debate between Harvard and Columbia debate teams is what is more outrageous…. Shipping foreign students with valid visas out of country illegally or not letting foreign students come to study at the university at all.
Nope. More opportunity for real talent. Not rich kids that take jobs and up the cost of homes. Chairman Xi daughter is not special talent but was accepted into Harvard. Americans are just not that bright when it comes to these games. I dislike Trump but I know that university game very well.
NO undergraduate institution recieving US funding should have more than 10-15% foreign *undergraduates*. Just enough to maximize world diversity experience for US students.
US taxpayers fund these schools existence. US citizens should reap the benefits. US universities are not a global charity.
How would you feel if you were a university w/o a $50 billion endowment and looked to foreign students to fill beds?
Fear is the point and they want to go after the big Harvard.
I know a chunk of maga folks are stupid.. but I’m wondering if I between picking their kid up from school and trying to get to work on time if normal Americans are wondering.. why tf is the president trying to control colleges and law firms
This is horrible! Trump's administration should stop to fight with universities. Is there any official U.S. authority to stop Trump's administration's fight with American universities?!!! Meral Ekincioglu, PhD, former research fellow at Harvard, MIT, Columbia universities.
Clearly another sign that Trump needs help. His cognitive issues are getting worse. His family must step in since the GOP doesn’t care about his well being. 🚨🚨
Where are the student uprisings? Students across the nation should be taking to the streets in solidarity with their peers. Is the COVID generation so afraid of the world, so ignorant of history, that they’re just going to roll over for this?
And the worst part is that it all stems from Trump's need for revenge because his narcissistic ego has been bruised. It's so pathetic. Eventually, researchers at Harvard and other universities will be able to use the example of Trump in both teaching and research.
This will affect the health of millions of Americans and foreign allies. Harvard does about one fourth of all the research into medical health both here and abroad.
People will die all over the world.
Dump’s hate for ordinary human beings continues to kill.
One college tour we did with ur child told us that international students pay full price in cash, keeping prices lower for American kids who are eligible for grants and loans and scholarships.
How many newly minted lawyers are coming out of Harvard? And what law firms will they join? Maybe the protection of their Alma Mater and other institutions of higher learning will be a career priority for them. Things that make you go "hmmm."
Having shot themselves in both feet, Trump regime ow goes after more retribution, which will drive both US and international
talent offshore. Next they will need a wall to keep the Americans in, not the immigrants out. Sound familiar?
Trump doesnt care about the laws. Until he is going to face consequences, he will keep breaking the laws. Success or failure doesnt matter to him, jus the appearance he is doing something and his dumb base eats this shit up. 😡😡
Now, that the US is sliding down the fascism path into it's own destruction, a lot of other nations happily welcome the brightest minds of the planet.
Even if Trump would disappear today into some hot air, the damage done to the USA could not be undone over decades.
@votejivan.bsky.social I think we might want to pull an emergency rip-cord and revisit our cities budget talks. This could be a massive economy pit-fall for Cambridge. These students pay rent here (property tax) and provide a ton to our local economy. This is a major concern.
25% does seem like a high number and probably limits the opportunities of kids from inside the country. Doubt it will hold since Harvard is a corporation but better vetting will be a nice side effect.
Harvard is a private university that has no quota on international students. They want the best and brightest, regardless of citizenship, and that's their right.
#Harvard is not a state college. there is no different out of state student tuition. many Harvard students get scholarships. incl some 4 yr full scholarships. Harvard does not even give sports scholarships! It is all based on academics and activities.
Right, more corporation less traditional school. it evolved into one of 5 private massive independent endowments that is facing a new 21% tax rate. Paying taxes just like any citizen in the country.
Harvard has some global campuses - but it should really develop a new, major one, across the border in Canada. The sooner the better, it's the 1930s fascism now, the 1940s are around the corner... a lesson from history is that Jews who left Germany in the '30s survived.
Of all of Trump's authoritarian blunders, this one should be the easiest to fix, since Harvard is private and has billions in their endowment. Power, fight the power.
Just waiting for the Trump protection scam & bribes offer now. Maybe foreign students will have to pay a 5% fee to Trump's Presidential library. OR they have buy their bitcoins and dinners to get a "pass." OR the children of MAGA who would not normally be accepted "HAVE" to be accepted at Harvard.
Most Harvard applicants could move on being rejected by Harvard when they were in teenagers. Except these Trump Minions who will throw Molotov cocktails of shitty, nonsensical policies when given a bit of power.
It's really not about the revenue. In research labs the vast majority of creative work is done by graduate students and postdoctoral trainees (who are presumably also affected), working on individual projects over multiple years.
Abruptly kicking these people out will shatter scientific research.
Many small liberal arts colleges rely on international students to keep the college solvent. My Alma mater, Coe College, has a 10% international student population. Those students pay cash for the full tuition of $71,000 a year. That's 143 students.
Harvard has an endowment that allows it to challenge this in court and ride it out for decades if it necessary. If they fold he wins and will come back for more.
Unlawful.
Harvard forced to sue.
Another bullying tactic from T and Miller.
Once the courts say unlawful, T & M will backpedal (calling it “flexible; like the tariff thing)
Those two, Mutt & Jeff, are deplorable.
Let's call this what it really is: The President is trying to financially coerce a private institution into bending the knee and doing whatever he commands.
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As tariffs have
We will be hit back hard
OUR students will suffer
Many of our students spend semesters abroad
They will lose out on the cultural advantages
Of foreign friends/experiences here/abroad
We don't live in a vacuum
And no more US Rhodes Scholars
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/opinion/harvard-university-trump-administration.html
BLOCKING INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS
STAND HIM DOWN, HARVARD!
SHOW HIM WHO'S ACTUALLY IN CHARGE.
https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social/post/3lptsqmy5yk2s
And shameful.
That goes for anyone - like Noem - who participates in this abuse of power.
And it should not be surprising, coming from someone who shot an innocent puppy in the head, executioner-style.
Trump: “No foreign students at Harvard.”
Also Trump: “I love the uneducated.”
Well, mission accomplished.
Harvard should call their bluff - Trump doesn't believe anyone should be getting Harvard degrees, but many of his supporters on Wall Street and industry who send their kids to elite schools might beg to differ.
“A republican form of government without intelligence in the people must be a prologue to a farce or a tragedy; or perhaps both.” Horace Mann
Liberty University reports having a total of 715 international students on campus, 469 of whom are undergraduates.
Or are they ok because it’s a “christian” school? 🤨
How the ,,,, can you let Trump, the village idiot, manipulate you?
You are of superior intellect and can walk circles around him in court.
So the question is, what are you waiting for?
You know what else,
When you lead, others will have the confidence to follow.
Now lead!
If we disagree with something it's time we make calls to the right people or choose someone inline w/democracy.
Maybe Harvard should stop hiring professors who’s job is to go on tv and bash democrats 24/7
That said, international students in the United States at any institution at all should consider leaving this country for their own safety.
Harvard should
have taken
Fred Trump's
money & admitted
his blockhead
son, even though
he never did
his homework &
was always
grabbing the girls
by their
(private parts).
As for legality, Trump's Executive Order 14215 requires all executive branch members to use His interpretation of the law. So far, they have done so with minimal consequences. Hope this changes that.
Start #Harvard campuses abroad.
Teach remotely. The technology is already there.
No more visa issues. No more Magats interference.
Truck Fump!
Your output on Legal Scholars is beyond reproach. Thus your capabilities of placing this Administration in line on this issue for yourselves and our Country now rests solely upon your shoulders.
~ Future Generations
https://irp.fas.org/crs/soa.htm
With top brilliant lawyers
US taxpayers fund these schools existence. US citizens should reap the benefits. US universities are not a global charity.
Fear is the point and they want to go after the big Harvard.
Do you know what habeas corpus means?
100% Illegal
Harvard must stand strong to protect the rights of every American
Oops. I forgot. Doesn’t have to be legal. The threat alone accomplishes much, here discouraging students from applying.
And by the time it winds its way through the judicial system it will have accomplished its goal.
https://drvincentgreenwood-89455.medium.com/a-duty-to-differentially-diagnose-the-validity-underpinning-the-diagnosis-of-the-president-cda2445963bf
People will die all over the world.
Dump’s hate for ordinary human beings continues to kill.
Paper
I will back Harvard all the way all day
And any other college that stands up to that fascist wannabe dictator..
talent offshore. Next they will need a wall to keep the Americans in, not the immigrants out. Sound familiar?
Welp, look what that got them 🤭
Even if Trump would disappear today into some hot air, the damage done to the USA could not be undone over decades.
@npr.org failing to meet the moment for the ten thousandth time.
Enjoy your funding cuts. I'm not donating another penny to your sanewashing.
Make it damn clear. Say exactly that. Because that’s what this is.
Harvard is a private university that has no quota on international students. They want the best and brightest, regardless of citizenship, and that's their right.
Overseas?
d o j it makes it easier for him too try this crap.
Abruptly kicking these people out will shatter scientific research.
Harvard forced to sue.
Another bullying tactic from T and Miller.
Once the courts say unlawful, T & M will backpedal (calling it “flexible; like the tariff thing)
Those two, Mutt & Jeff, are deplorable.