liberals love to complain when there’s protests under democratic presidents and then love to complain when there is not immediately larger protests under a republican president. the throughline is they don’t participate in either of them
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They’ve been responding negatively to every protest. Been saying the time to protest was on Election Day (um ok). They will never, ever be happy. They’re so mad that Biden helped genocide and made them all look ornithologically evil.
Really? Most of the liberals I’ve seen in the various groups I’m in are pretty motivated, some are cagey, but tbh it’s pretty hard to tell exactly someone’s politics online. I’m down for stealing a tank and more aggressive action, whether or not I ^can^ is another thing entirely.
I took a quick look around my spaces and people need direction. Locally, people want action, but there’s not a whole lot direction especially here in college town Texas. I’m not an innate leader, ya know anxieties, but there’s a serious leadership vacuum.
I had a rabid centrist liberal come after me and other commenters calling me a Nazi and a fascist sympathizer for calling out Democrats for not doing anything. and had the Gall to post chuck Schumers tweets and stern words and I just laughed 🤣 there's nothing they're gonna do either except post
I love how it’s also a complete admission they themselves won’t do shit. They’re saying leftists are the only ones that take any action and expect us to do everything
then why are liberals posting stuff like “hmmm….where are your protests leftists?”, seems insanely counter productive to use that rhetoric right now if there are libs at protests
To me it seems older liberals are happy about the threatened ethnic cleansing of Gaza so they can yell at the leftists online that called them poopy old dick of whatever. Seems to be their major concern.
They pay close to zero attention to protests not directed at them. During the campus protests you'd always have some guy going "why were there no protests at [Republican event]?" and then immediately someone would post evidence of protests at that event.
Last week the pussy-hat wine mom protesters were the ultimate cringe. This week, that never happened. The throughline is many of you were apparently born last week.
Meanwhile, Jill Stein leftoids have gone oddly silent about all the genocide stuff just as Trump offers to turn Gaza into townhomes.
And if protests didn't work against a democratic candidate during an election cycle when it was clear she was going to lose if she didn't listen, why do you think they're going to suddenly be the answer with a newly elected fascist?
Secondly, the reason you're it seeing the protests now is simply because you aren't at them. They still exist, despite everything I listed above and massive crackdowns on them during both administrations. For the most part though, resistance has had to take other forms at this point.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt about the Gaza protests.
But there's a reason they were happening strongest during a campaign season, directed at the most reasonable candidate (a purported civil rights champion) and before there was a ceasefire.
Libs are identical to the maga cult except theyre a lot more self righteous. The same "my team good your team bad" mentality except they think they're malcolm x
“why aren’t more people protesting!?” a lot of online libs need to put their phone down & leave their house because from what i’m seeing protests are breaking out all over the place.
but they don’t talk to activists so they don’t know they’re going on, and thus reaffirming their own bias.
Even the scale of the protests is kinda a BS complaint.
Like, can you really be surprised if there are more people protesting the party who might be swayed against genocide than there are protesting the people who want to burn down Gaza to build a golf course more than they want to breathe?
If you know that Democrats can be more easily swayed by protesting and Republicans might kill you for protesting, it is logical as a protester to vote Democrat.
EXACTLY. And like, during a campaign season when a candidate *supposedly* has to listen and earn your vote vs after they're in office and are basically not beholden to you for two to four years?
While I agree with this sentiment I also feel right now it is also very dangerous to protest unless you have the means to defend yourself. Been hearing rumors that there are those posting on reddit about forming protests under brand new accounts and it comes off as a honeypot scenario.
it is a dangerous time & if someone feels unsafe they shouldn’t go, but people have protested against more dangerous regimes than ours. there are more ways to resist than marching in the streets, but those avenues are shrinking as our government is being overtaken by a far right faction.
The funny part is that the protests are happening, but they're not getting televised so the liberals fool themselves into believing that they're not happening.
They sre literally telling on themselves. They don't see the protests because they aren't at the protests. They just hate when other people care because it makes them look bad.
So your stupid? There is so many protests today due to all that's happening. I DON'T think you get how bad its getting. WE might not have food at the store soon due to people not picking the food. OUR stock market is down and people losing rights. KIDS may not eat now.
I've seen shitlibs reposting the same image of text and they're painting it as 'we were right, they're silent because they were only mad at dems' because there wasn't large scale protests specifically about trump's statement about gaza within seconds of him saying it
Jim Crow didn't end because white southerners changed their mind, it ended because the national guard showed up with guns to enforce hard fought supreme court decisions.
No, you're supporting my point. National actions taken by northern and western legislators and judiciary overriding southern laws, enforced by Federally controlled troops.
Once the realistic threat of having a domestic revolution funded & organized by a competing foreign superpower was eliminated...guess what happened to domestic worker & civil rights.
I'm literally married to Ida B Wells Great Granddaughter anime avi. We are living history. You clearly do not understand SNCC, or Non-Violent direct organizing. You have not read or organized enough.
But, the woman you did dox, a significant portion of her career is talking about Ida B Wells and keeping her legacy alive. That is quite literally our family's mission. If y'all had anything like this, you would do it too.
Michelle Duster is not my wife, that's my cousin. Y'all are strange. But hey Michelle! And yes, our family talks about our family all the time. We build on her work here.
Did you not read the part about SNCC or was that not compatible with your miscarriage of history? Rev. Ralph Abernathy and thousands of others didn't risk their lives for you to write off their achievements.
so you banged your way into the mantle of supreme arbiter of good decisions and perfect historical recollection related to civil rights, is the story you're going with?
It's only removed if you stop fighting. But generational freedom fighters isn't hip enough right? We actually knock on doors and feed the poor and organize mutual aid, but hey, y'all will always have pithy comments right? You're gonna spend the day organizing right?
Marching in a protest is not to convince the fascist, hell its not really for anything other than venting frustrations and NETWORKING. You go to get people's phone numbers or discord handles. You go to link up with like minded people and push for solutions from the bottom up. Do not give up.
Too many of the ones that have gotten attention in recent years really are just sign waving milksop instead of the show of force and implicit threat they ought to be.
It would be frustrating enough if that were the truth of it. The truth though is there are COUNTLESS protests all over the world right now and they're acting like there are none.
hey good for you, I was pointing more at the single-issue non-voters in here though. Feels like people just got bored talking about everything else last year
What are you even talking about. Making up fake persecution scenarios so you can talk shit just makes you look not so smart. Of course we protest. That’s the whole point. We’ve been standing up against facists since the beginning. The difference is you didn’t protest, you invaded congress.
While we're at it, let's hope it uses democracy to make all decisions about how society is run instead of this weird thing where people get to vote for how the country is run but not how their workplace is.
I'd say that in the US, "Liberal" just means "Left of Centre, but Still a Believer in Democracy"... so runs the gamut from Socialists almost all the way up to centrists like a lot of the Democratic party reps have proven to be. So all liberals are leftists, but not all leftists are liberals.
“Liberals” in the US are not “neo-liberal” or “classically liberal” in so far as most of them never really consider that there are any actual alternatives to the only economic system they have ever known. They aren’t against change, they just literally can’t imagine it as a possibility.
Largely the “socially liberal” crowd calls themselves liberals, and using economic terminology that applies to the left-right economic axis confuses them.
I don’t blame them, this country is so steeped in propaganda, ignorance, and distraction that it makes a ton of sense.
That was..a lot more than I expected. Though glad to know that you do actually know what these terms mean.
I would note though, that there's been a tendency in very recent years where social liberals in the US don't call themselves liberal anymore, they just say "progressive"
liberals dont protest more, their protests just get more coverage.
liberals need us as much as we need them which means they have to be willing to make some concessions. when they were in charge they were committing genocide so I think it's fair to ask them to stop punching left every second.
I believe the best future involves a radical left shift for the entire country/world- but my experience has been that especially the “very online” leftists mostly fight with each other and shit on liberals and get very little done except alienating people.
that seems like maybe you are making a lot of assumptions. I dont know any leftists who don't protest. every leftist group I'm even tangentially aware of has protests like constantly.
I’m not saying they don’t protest. I’m saying they are crap at organizing past their enclaves and therefore deeply limited in their numbers and effect.
The actual “left” is rudderless, leaderless, and deeply infiltrated by bad actors (mostly egotists) and propaganda designed to stymie all growth.
The largest protests in the last 3 decades was mostly liberals.
They were “cringe” because of their choice of symbolic hats.
Large scale mass mobilization movements that actually effect the country need to center suburban moms and people who never read marx because there’s so fucking many of them.
No. They're all labels and they mean different things to different people. To me, liberals don't support war. To the Democrats, it's different, but jfc look at the other guys Republicans are actual enemies and Jasmine Crockett is alla us
Could it be Harris' 'swallowing grenades' approach, like bringing Liz Cheney to Michigan- a very pro-Israel war-hawk who supported the annexation of the West Bank and decried any attempt to prevent weapon-transfers. Nope- must be the Moeslims
You got it! What even are they? Liberals and Democrats and leftists aren't the same thing, ya gotta throw a whole context to clarify.
The Center now is like Nixon Republicans?
That Overton window thing is affecting language bc I kinda think we throw labels on stuff and argue instead of identifying the problem and knowing a way to fix it.
We all want the same thing- stuff to work.
Planes are falling outda sky
Problem is the person in charge of that. And Capitalism
I’ve been compiling all the protests while the democrats dither and the MSM ignores it. Many organized by leftists and students. This thread is just today
I'm sure most of the cult has magically forgotten that if they even bothered to know it at all. (My Trumper uncle didn't believe me when I told him during Biden's term.)
Wrenn v. D.C. had already been decided 18 months before 83yo Convicted Pedophile Donald Trump sharpied his “ban”. The was absolutely no uncertainty at the time whatsoever the “ban” would be overturned when it made it to an even more PedoCon-favorable Supreme Court, than the appellate court for Wrenn
Worse than that to me are the people who actively accuse those protesters of being paid crisis actors or whatever and promoting conspiracy theories that it was all a plot to depress Democratic voting numbers
Libs can be just as brainwormy as conservatives sometimes
Big tech ENABLES Trump. Those still on X/Twitter and Threads/Facebook, your voice is no longer being heard. Both platforms have bent the knee to Trump; close those accounts now. And for a real impact we MUST also BOYCOTT Amazon, Apple and Google because big tech is officially a global threat.
leftists have only one power and it's to kneecap democrats, which they occasionally succeed at. the list of successes they have other than that is blank.
"The list of successes they have other than that is blank" Well when leftists are getting kneecapped by Republicans AND Democrats, it's not a simple challenge.
The Republicans got you to infight with leftists and they won. The president wants Canada as a state and your busy getting mad at leftists.
That’s what happens when you’re a threat the the status quo! The status quo only cares about maintaining itself, it doesn’t care about what’s right, or what the people want
Because he lied and said he would do popular things, which is a thing the modern democratic party has forgotten how to do. A political party that can't even lie, totally worthless.
Democrats don't win by courting republican votes but the current dem leadership doesn't seem to understand that. Dems win by courting the people who don't usually vote
Because Obama made the right kind of messaging to get left leaning people to vote. Kamala simply didn't bother and instead campaigned with Republicans. She also refused to distance herself from Biden who had already pissed everybody off with his handling of gaza and of the railroad strike.
Well, we didn't know he was king of drone striking children, frankly, and he ran on a platform of systemic change and an end to warmongering, as well as closing Guantánamo Bay and pushing for universal health care.
Which is to say he lied, and the party itself refused.
I feel like people confused by how Obama was swept into office by a veritable landslide of voter enthusiasm and Kamala ate shit really weren't around for the days of the Obama campaign. You can't imagine a starker difference between two things, night and day doesn't even begin to describe it
So actually, it's a good question. The answer tells us three things - one, what people want, two is why he was elected but not Harris, and three is why progressives radicalized and the left is cynical about the democratic party's intentions.
And that was more reasonable than the modern party. At least he cared enough to trick us. It meant we could say "I didn't want more Iraq war, I was hoodwinked" instead of Harris' "I knowingly voted for more genocide"
Yeah, that's what the modern ones need to do. The last three Democrat candidates have sucked, and run on a campaign that mostly consisted of "We won't outright kill you" and "Everything is fine, eat shit".
Liberals courted the right, they have tacked right on every front. You sound like a dipshit to imply otherwise. We don’t have a left wing body our political system for a reason.
The left is vilified the neo-cons and neo-libs bc the left is the only voice that disrupts the status quo.
Leftists are the reason things are going to hell because they are a useless demographic to court. They only know how to be negative but theyre too scared to insult the right, so theyre terrible political allies, not fun as friends, and just push everyone right.
Lmfao I genuinely thought this was sarcasm for a second... A lot of the leftists I know are people who have principles and actually live by them. They say "feed the hungry" and actually go out and spend their time distributing food. Instead of saying "feed the hungry", and donating to Kamala Harris
this would be a good response if the dems were willing to do literally anything at all to solve any of the countless problems that we're facing. you are in no position whatsoever to act like anything at all would be solved if leftists just shut up and got on board
He will not be taking any further questions at this point.
Please take the withering disdain in his tone as proof of his superiority and adjust yourself accordingly.
Leftists are the reason things are going to hell because they are a useless demographic to court. They only know how to be negative but theyre too scared to insult the right, so theyre terrible political allies, not fun as friends, and just push everyone right.
It actually seems like you are nursing a personal vendetta against being ostracized from a friend group and projecting it onto an entire political group.
Can’t imagine why a person like you would *ever* be ostracized by leftists.
Trump is objectively better on Gaza because he both negotiated a ceasefire and his plan is an unattainable pipe dream and not a year+ of horrible reality. I don’t know why people keep saying he’s worse. It’s not true.
literally how is he going to do with the US army what the IDF couldn’t do with more than a year of starvation, bombing, and street fighting? if Kamala had won, there would literally not be a ceasefire now. is the real continuation of daily bombings better than a desire to cleanse Gaza in the future?
I’m saying things literally are not worse for Gaza right now. the February 5 2025 where Kamala won has a school bombing and an IDF soldier making a TikTok of a toddler’s field execution and no aid coming in. The February 5 2025 in Gaza today has no IDF and aid trucks coming in.
I really understand feeling upset with the people who were practically screaming at people that trying to save lives through voting meant you had no morals and support genocide, but they were clearly not why Trump won. They are just assholes who advocated against the interests of those he harms.
I don't think the campus protests had that much of an effect. They were cracked down on hard and fast compared to the BLM stuff that went on for months in 2020.
They see how the right has more extreme people who protest and wish they had the same relationship with their less moderate wing without understanding any of the background factors
Liberals were at this march in Columbus today. Including myself. In fact a Liberal politician is featured in the last photograph.
No need to exaggerate about what Liberals will or won't do.
Biden's words are irrelevant. POTUS can, and has, heeled his attack dog many times with nothing more than a phone call. Even Reagan did it. So any illusion that this was not what Biden wanted is nonsense. He has always been an ultra-Zionist.
No, but they will write some super-banal, out of touch and overlong 'think pieces' about what 'all these protests' say about us as a society, and isn't that what we *really* need.
It's insane how gleefully excited Twitter liberals are over the ethnic cleansing in Gaza because like a couple thousand people didn't vote for Kamala. Total sociopathic behavior. They only care about minorities when it's convenient for them.
Sorry, I meant to type 'Libs', not 'Neo-libs'. Neo-libs wouldn't be sitting on the fence - they'd be burning the bloody thing.
Apologies (the perils of posting while not entirely sober).
These are just images from four of the many protests that happened since Friday of last week. I shared over 30 protests that happened last weekend and this ware just the ones I was aware of.
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Most Americans I've seen online think they're the exception of either group or claim to belong to either.
The point is that all Americans are under attack from inside your government, and a lot of people are just pointing fingers.
like, them saying that reveals so much about their own mentality!
Meanwhile, Jill Stein leftoids have gone oddly silent about all the genocide stuff just as Trump offers to turn Gaza into townhomes.
It's ok to do a little google before you post
That was only possible because of a year long demolition and ethnic cleansing campaign that democrats for the most part refused to acknowledge.
But there's a reason they were happening strongest during a campaign season, directed at the most reasonable candidate (a purported civil rights champion) and before there was a ceasefire.
https://bsky.app/profile/alicedyeforme.bsky.social/post/3lhhhkqoyys2y
but they don’t talk to activists so they don’t know they’re going on, and thus reaffirming their own bias.
Like, can you really be surprised if there are more people protesting the party who might be swayed against genocide than there are protesting the people who want to burn down Gaza to build a golf course more than they want to breathe?
Learn where and how to safely organize.
There’s real damage done when you remove it from your menu of acceptable actions.
I mean, if you want to call [the 1917 Russian Revolution] "organizing"...then fine.
The MIC only relinquished a *tiny* bit of ground on "civil rights" to US workers in the 20th century because they were scared of the chop-chop.
By your logic and questionable grasp of the transitive property, that makes me an expert film director.
Too many of the ones that have gotten attention in recent years really are just sign waving milksop instead of the show of force and implicit threat they ought to be.
The useless ones get publicly lauded and pushed in political fundraising.
So when you have people who only get mass media framing and ActBlue email begging...yeah.
Opinion discarded
Lmaoooo
If you guys ever make another democracy I hope it's one of the real ones with preferential voting. The fptp sportsball model breaks a lot of brains.
Liberals protest MORE than leftists, sadly, and there’s more of them.
Your entire view of liberals seems to be from the hate commentary of other leftists.
This is prime time to push liberals left by actually reaching out.
How are you defining leftist and how are you defining liberal?
The US “liberal” label was created as a derisive slur that was embraced after the civil rights era and is 100% centered on supporting civil rights.
Americans have no clue about economic principals at all.
I don’t blame them, this country is so steeped in propaganda, ignorance, and distraction that it makes a ton of sense.
I would note though, that there's been a tendency in very recent years where social liberals in the US don't call themselves liberal anymore, they just say "progressive"
Capitalism doesn’t leave time or incentive for most people to explore these concepts and form actual options.
“middle class” white kids with college degrees high on self righteousness don’t help.
liberals need us as much as we need them which means they have to be willing to make some concessions. when they were in charge they were committing genocide so I think it's fair to ask them to stop punching left every second.
I believe the best future involves a radical left shift for the entire country/world- but my experience has been that especially the “very online” leftists mostly fight with each other and shit on liberals and get very little done except alienating people.
The actual “left” is rudderless, leaderless, and deeply infiltrated by bad actors (mostly egotists) and propaganda designed to stymie all growth.
They were “cringe” because of their choice of symbolic hats.
Large scale mass mobilization movements that actually effect the country need to center suburban moms and people who never read marx because there’s so fucking many of them.
The Center now is like Nixon Republicans?
We all want the same thing- stuff to work.
Planes are falling outda sky
Problem is the person in charge of that. And Capitalism
partisan brainworms ruined evth
Trump being worse on Gaza doesn’t mean Kamala was good!
Libs can be just as brainwormy as conservatives sometimes
The Republicans got you to infight with leftists and they won. The president wants Canada as a state and your busy getting mad at leftists.
But, also, Obama promised more than Kamala did for the voters.
Which is to say he lied, and the party itself refused.
The left is vilified the neo-cons and neo-libs bc the left is the only voice that disrupts the status quo.
Don't do yourself down
Since when exactly? Seems to me like it’s the liberals/Democrats who are afraid of taking a stand against the right.
And no. Democrats are not left-wing. At their best they’re center and at their worst they’re slightly right of that.
carry on then
Please take the withering disdain in his tone as proof of his superiority and adjust yourself accordingly.
Can’t imagine why a person like you would *ever* be ostracized by leftists.
Lmao, friendless fuck.
Have you been “pushed right”?
Seems like it
No need to exaggerate about what Liberals will or won't do.
Talking real confidently for a stranger on the internet....
Get your talking points straight.
And plenty of people who marched against Biden voted for Trump in Dearborn. Not every protest is worth joining.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-delegation-heads-qatar-ceasefire-deal-push-2024-02-26/
Most people’s understanding of their political stance reaches about a “Wikipedia blurb” level.
Accusing every liberal in the country of being basically a 90s Republican is nonsense.
Apologies (the perils of posting while not entirely sober).
If not, I can always find you the next protest for your closest city.
Be the change you wish to see
So, could you say that again?