If Mayor Adams was fired by the Governor, wouldn't that remove the rationale supporting DOJ motion to dismiss the indictment? Couldn't the judge then reject it?
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You tell me, you're the lawyer. (Not being sarcastic. I honestly don't know.)
What I do know is that Hochul has the power to do it, but she and downstate machine politicians are afraid of Jumaane Williams becoming mayor and Cuomo winning the election.
That said, it would be interesting. As long as charges were pending, Bove et al. would have no "deal." DOJ likely would appeal, and, if the case went to SCOTUS, I suspect DOJ would prevail. But all that would take time. If, OTOH, DOJ lost, the case would just sit there until such time as it 1/
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Guessing there is a reason she will pick what her moves
are and when
If governors and state leaders aren’t going to push back against the corrupt authoritarians that are dismantling out govt, then step down and let a strong leader do it
He's dirty, not a good luck for NY to leave him in place as he grins on fsuxnews while the person next to him admits the criminality! Adams should wear an orange t on his forehead!
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I'm a career defense atty. Am I missing something here, Marc? This is a bribery scheme. Exchanging a thing of value (dismissal) for a govt official's agreement to perform an official act.
This is not an ordinary cooperation agreement. He's not informing on co-Ds, he's enacting policy!
I think the Judge could reject in on the grounds it is the consummation of a illegal act of Bribery/extortion aided and abetted by the DOJ on behalf of the president. i believe Judges have such wide latitude.. and should use them in this instance
It's untenable to have the mayor of NY city to be ruled by Trump. Hochul should remove Adams. This mobster shit is what everyone with power will have to deal with.
That sounds like the smart temporary move, frankly. I can see the point in keeping this case alive to expose more fraud, and to avoid an expensive and risky special election (low turnout supports fringe candidates). But his continued power over NYC is terrifying. This could rein him in.
Imagine if Hochul fires Adams only after Judge Ho dismisses charges against him. Adams immediately becomes useless to Trump and Trumps suffers several cycles of bad press for using quid pro quo for political gains. Hochul could say we already have a felon as president. We don’t need one as mayor.
I think the Governor is going to remove Adam’s because he’s willing to violate NY laws regarding immigration raids. The harm that could result is immeasurable.
That could be a fun story. If it's all going to shit for the next while, there might as well be some light moments too. It's nice to think that the ones that think they're in the safe zone, could also end up losing just like all the peasants are.
They would never have indicted him unless he is as guilty as fuckall. It was the same with Trump, as we all saw. Do whatever it takes to end the careers of all corrupt politicians. I used to think everyone could agree on that
You'd think. Also, though, if Judge Ho granted the motion to dismiss, wouldn't that give the Governor an ironclad argument to remove the mayor, on the grounds that NYC needed a mayor who was able if necessary to act independently from the White House in the NY's best interests?
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① remove Adams now & there’d be an open primary
② Cuomo is no longer a registered Democrat
③ name recognition & sentiment may be enough to secure him a win
NY State journalists have been reporting that Cuomo's been following the Adams situation with interest because he's considering a way back into politics.
I think the judge can *reject* it based on its merits alone. Regardless of whether he’s mayor or not. It’s clearly a case of quid pro quo. The dumbasses were on Fox News discussing the terms of the dismissal.
Absolutely not. While I’d like to see him prosecuted, the bigger danger is the potential charges hanging over his head. If the governor won’t remove him, (which seems unlikely), then the next best thing is to remove the leverage by dismissing with prejudice which removes the Fed leverage over him.
It won't happen, but I' like to see Ho deny the motion; let the charges hang there during appeals, etc. (And then - to your point, which I now understand, dismiss w/prejudice.)
I see no reason why it won’t happen. Given the record, I think it’s the only correct judicial action. But I see your point. You could just let the DOJ attempt to “try” the case. More likely tho is the trial keeps getting continued & the result is the same. I guess you can force a trial as judge
She should fire him because he won’t be able to focus on the job as mayor or the White House immigration policies with the case dismissal hanging over his head. Trump should be good with that
That’s a lie she knows she can fire him, but she’s refused to because she thinks the optics would look bad because she believes this is not the way Democrats behave
She needs to modify her approach, ‘f’ the optics. The optics don’t look good for, wilfully having a disgraceful criminal Mayor, that’s sucking up to an equally criminal President.
The talking head's agenda had Zero to do with either Adams or Hochul.
It was clearly some RW commentator with a RW agenda whom you heard, and it was just another foot in the door to slime POC; subtext: "See everybody? The DEI mayor fucks up and you can't remove him because he's a ni--[GONG!]"😠
Cooler if DA Bragg or AG James opened investigation into violations of New York state law (e.g. concerning bribery and public corruption) by Mayor Adams and his apparent co-conspirators (Emil Bove and Tom Homan, among others). Serve some grand jury subpoenas. Bonus: convictions are non-pardonable.
prejudice, since the opposite would demonstrate the irresponsibility toward the rule of law of the plaintiff's corrupt quid pro quo & its lack of respect for the defendant's rights by placing a perpetual anvil over his head re recharging him, which is less than a
My guess is that if Hochul fired Adams, this corrupt DOJ would drop the motion to dismiss. With his puppet strings severed, Adams would no longer be of any use to them.
Mark why isn't she removing him? He's not very popular in the city she's had a very turbulent time as Governor, and she won reelection in kind of a shaky way. So what is the ulterior motive behind what she's doing?
I love this idea.
Trump would be sure to make Adams an ambassador to somewhere. He appointed all of the Republican losers that lost races. His Cabinet is a Cabinet of Losers.
Not all of them! GA has a judge who was removed from the bench because he stole hundreds of thousands of dollars from an elderly client and then put himself as a beneficiary in his will! He is, of course, asking Trump for a job!
More rationale to suspend duties pending court adjudication. That would prevent 4th Amendment violations of Nazi SS storm troopers that Adams was giving a free pass on
It would. What would also happen is that Bondi would immediately and loudly announce a DOJ investigation into Hochul, with an indictment being a predetermined outcome. It wouldn't matter that Hochul committed no offense.
I wonder. But wouldn't it be better to let the judge do whatever and then fire Adams? That he should be fired is clear. But I kind of prefer her waiting till Trump thinks he's either won or been victimized by a "corrupt" judge before she shows her real power.
George, The federal government has power to preempt State laws, if necessary. However, no president, or senator, has the right to “fire” an elected official, or a duly appointed judge. If TFG goes full-on dicktater then he can do whatever he wants since we have a purchased/feckless Congress majority
She needs to delay until March 26th or the replacement election will be open, giving Cuomo a real chance to be the top vote getter, instead a closed primary the MAGA can’t cross over.
And wouldn't it also remove tRump's reason for wanting to pardon Adams and dismiss the case? If he's not Mayor, he won't be much help with tRump mass deportation schemes.
I read she is hesitant to remove a black NYC mayor since she barely got the support from black voters as it is, but if she waits until march 26th then the public advocate (Jumaane Williams) becomes acting mayor. Williams is a progressive democrat.
I worry about the red governors have done in some states with elected SoS, atty Gen etc. NC is still doing it to the Dem state Supreme Court judge, DeSantus is doing it too
She can’t just fire him. When FDR moved against Mayor Jimmy Walker in August 1932 it took more than two weeks of hearings and that was after previous investigations.
Of course, if Mayor Adams is fired, it exposes the entire flimsy reasoning behind the DOJ’s motion. You can’t just sweep corruption under the rug because someone’s in power. The judge should see through this and REJECT it. Accountability is the only way forward—no excuses!
She won’t, she’s already removed herself from this matter! Just another selfish politician only interested in her own self interest and reelection campaign! Disgraceful
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It’s tough . I don’t think she will fire himShe will most likely will ask him to resign. He most likely won’t .Pres Musk and mini me trump already threatened(form of blackmail) her if she were to “fire “Adams
Agree 100%. However, Democrats seem hesitant to use the powers they actually have while Republicans are cavalier about wielding powers they don’t have. It’s a big problem.
Sure it would. If she refuses, I would want the judge to either appoint a special AUSA or dismiss WITH prejudice—either way, denying Trump the benefit of his bargain.
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What I do know is that Hochul has the power to do it, but she and downstate machine politicians are afraid of Jumaane Williams becoming mayor and Cuomo winning the election.
Guessing there is a reason she will pick what her moves
are and when
Doesn't want to appear "political."
Clearly another Dem "leader" who thinks this is politics as usual.
They must become the party of obstruction. Thwart him in every way possible.
But here we are. 😡
We're on our own, folks.
Many of the fired federal workers are competent folks, and they will be running, hungry to go against fElon Musk's corruption.
She is a disappointment
Fire him for malfeasance.
Logic and reality don’t work with MAGA/MUSK/NAZI/REPUBLICANS.
This is not an ordinary cooperation agreement. He's not informing on co-Ds, he's enacting policy!
Further, she could simply strip him of the powers of the office and grant the powers to the City Council.
You win a chicken dinner
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That he totally lacks any character or integrity whatsoever will be secondary.
The possible Dem candidates also have all the curb appeal of a glass of stale water. Unfortunately.
He’s switched to Republican.
② Cuomo is no longer a registered Democrat
③ name recognition & sentiment may be enough to secure him a win
I think grounds for the judge not dismissing Adams’ case are set out in Danielle Sassoon’s letter.
A judge cannot force a prosecution. S/he can set a trial date, but if nobody showed up, the case would be dismissed for failure to prosecute.
WTF?
It was clearly some RW commentator with a RW agenda whom you heard, and it was just another foot in the door to slime POC; subtext: "See everybody? The DEI mayor fucks up and you can't remove him because he's a ni--[GONG!]"😠
That said, I think, unfortunately, that he would probably win.
There’s also rumors about that Adams is going to run as a Republican due to the support from Trump.
Happy thoughts either way.
Or what if the Judge chose to dismiss the case WITH
Could the bribery, etc. charges against Adams then be brought in state court [Semtek v Lockheed Martin]?
Trump would be sure to make Adams an ambassador to somewhere. He appointed all of the Republican losers that lost races. His Cabinet is a Cabinet of Losers.
So if we cut to the chase and agree that Hochul has a reason for not wanting to be the only path to getting rid of this corrupt idiot what's her game?
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kathy-hochul-eric-adams-sdny.html
Something tells me the case against him may come roaring back.
It's written in the NYC Charter and our state constitution. And it wouldn't be the first time a Gov had to remove a corrupt Mayor.
The AG and Manhattan DA needed to open an inquiry.
The Dems continue to play nice. They continue to ignore the threat.
No doubt Adams is going to switch parties, leaving the NYC Dems with the mess.
This is insane. Dems always bringing banana bread to a knife fight.
This would work.
"FIRE ERIC ADAMS NOW"
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1-518-474-8390 | Office hours: 9:00am to 5:00pm
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The Honorable Kathy Hochul
Governor of New York State
NYS State Capitol Building
Albany, NY 12224
Fighter from the 60's!
Part of the fighters from the 1960's. I was able to Vote in Oklahoma. Able to thrive and take part in Fair housing and buy a home. It wasn't easy.
DOJ top brass won’t sign the Adam’s dismiss form because they wouldn’t be able to blame a bureaucrat if needed.
Trump pardoned J6 rioters for their continued loyalty.
They would get more mileage out of Adams that way than continuing the prosecution.