I cannot emphasize enough that 97% of invocations of a "Left/Liberal" dichotomy or conflict On Here simply do not map onto any actual ideological formations in the real world.
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The global left/liberal ideology framework really has no place within any discussion of the U.S. political landscape because of the impact the Electoral College has had.
Oh come on, loads of countries had more restrictive constitutional arrangements that were overcome through legislation or revolution. Americans are human beings and their politics is no different to anyone else's.
That's not a bad argument except something about the U.S. political landscape has convinced the vast majority of our leftists to drop out of taking an active role in our politics which makes it quite different than what happens in countries without such tough constitutions to amend.
I would expand that point to include centrist Republicans and Independents, too.
Our education system does not stipulate to the homes from which the students come that its purpose is more than vocational. And even when they do, paranoid parents assume educators mean to groom their kids.
I want anyone who yells about single payer or universal healthcare to think about what it would mean to have Trump or Elon or RFK jr in charge of all of it right now
They've developed a theory of politics entirely based on their half-remembered impressions of the 2016 primary and are trying to hammer down all of human history to fit in it.
And of course, let's not forget that the US just LITERALLY sold people into slavery in El Salvador. That's not something a country about "freedom" should ever do.
That's what authoritarian systems do.
But go on, keep kissing Will's ass, maybe he'll lose the next election for you :)
I mean, the other side of that is a bunch of people with these emojis 🔻 who want the entirety of America to collapse, which would lead to more death and destruction across the planet than ever before seen. But anti-Americanism as a political ideology is as far as you’ll get from internet leftists.
Because Will has been very insistent that other countries are somehow less free and that the US is the pinnacle of freedom. Surely you can connect these dots, yeah?
Bud, people disagreeing with you that prison population is the sole indicator of freedom does not mean people are saying the US is the pinnacle of freedom.
It also does not mean that other countries are not less free.
There are countries where what you're typing right now would get you arrested.
Yeah, it's the lack of healthcare, livable wages, highest incarceration rates, poor public education standards, systemic bigotry, and a million other things that indicate that America isn't the pinnacle of freedom.
Oh and also the fascists taking control while Will spews American exceptionalism
How are we more free? More free to die from a lack of healthcare? To get shot in schools or places of worship? To die homeless and hungry, or in prison?
or the related “OP discusses person with alleged insane positions, one group of replies denies this kind of person exists, another group of replies proves OP right and then some”
There's something deeply comical about thinking Lincoln fought Americans because he hated the idea of the US and not for. Like. The reason he actually fought for.
I genuinely think the median irl lefty is kind of like the median voter in that their policy preferences and opinions are rather incoherent and at times contradictory, just that their political spectrum falls between far left and center left
It sure looked to me like there was a left/liberal dichotomy last year as I saw bunches of self-described leftists spend every waking moment trying to convince as many Americans as they could to not bother voting by attacking the Democratic Party nonstop.
Absolutely. We criticize the Right for stripping words like “elite” or “DEI” of useful meaning & repurposing them to basically mean “outsider”. But the broad Left coalition is doing something similar with “left/center/right” and “liberal”. They’re morphing to mean “insider/accommodator/outsider.”
Isn't this just tankies lying and trying to bodysnatch historical figures to their side? I've encountered "FDR wasn't a liberal" in the wild. It's like Republicans getting into JFK.
People in every subculture lie. I think that corner of the internet is more *vulnerable* to lies, but I don't think there's a disproportionate number of bad actors
It's a strategy of the group. Organized tankie regimes and parties always lied, because they were defending the indefensible. Just less well organized in the internet subculture form
One of my new year's resolutions is not to let internet radicals fool me into thinking they are important thought leaders whose opinions I should care about
Righties continue to be dogs awaiting their next command while Lefties continue to be cats never willing to congregate, agree with one another, or be labeled in any possible way.
I can just feel Lefties bristle at the thought of being called a Lefty right now.
This is why Righties win elections.
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4 people in that screenshot and Stacil is the most normal by a country mile.
Like a lib adopting a southern pov but its actually badass for the north so go for it?
What is happening
Our education system does not stipulate to the homes from which the students come that its purpose is more than vocational. And even when they do, paranoid parents assume educators mean to groom their kids.
until then, I'm perfectly fine with hybrid solutions that work in plenty of other countries
"You want courts/FEC/SEC? What if Trump was in charge of them right now?" is not an argument against their existence.
Of course none of that matters with a wannabe dictator and useless congress.
Left-Confederate Detected.
You can LITERALLY construct batshit nonsense arguments/criticisms out of ANYTHING AND NOTHING all at once (like what you just spewed).
Will is whinging that other countries are bad because they take away people's freedoms by imprisoning them.
Are you so blinded by your loyalty to a party that you don't see how that's hypocritical?
That's what authoritarian systems do.
But go on, keep kissing Will's ass, maybe he'll lose the next election for you :)
It also does not mean that other countries are not less free.
There are countries where what you're typing right now would get you arrested.
Oh and also the fascists taking control while Will spews American exceptionalism
pointing out that other countries *are* less free - a true statement - is not saying "we're number one"
Wow much freedom.
from the new deal to make Dixiecrats happy which would not fly today
They’ve horseshoed themselves into loving oppressive regimes to own the libs
https://bsky.app/profile/blanson100.bsky.social/post/3llyvcjtrwc25
Paul von Hindenburg: a liberal
People definitely say some wild shit out here
https://bsky.app/profile/mc-hesher.bsky.social/post/3lkcxc4hurs22
I can just feel Lefties bristle at the thought of being called a Lefty right now.
This is why Righties win elections.
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One thing thats funny about bluesky, this place is absolutely crawling with right wing and/or accelerationist assholes pretending to be leftists.