lol even if US policy wasn’t to send troops into the ICC if they even look in the general direction of our war crimes, no one is coming to save us from this but ourselves.
If their parents gave permission, they would do it at home. Or take the kids to an ICE office. But the kids are being bullied to give away parents' information that may lead to an arrest, so it doesn't even make sense to ask parents permission for bullying their kids to unknowingly snitch them.
Genuinely do not understand the thought process behind the strategy of using plain clothes officers all the time. How does this prevent me from assuming they're serial killers or kidnappers or something?? What's gonna happen when they spook the wrong person who responds aggressively in self-defense?
We know what will happen cuz, essentially, it happened already. In 2020, a man killed a far-right militia chud, and in response Trump sent the US Marshals to murder him. Trump bragged about doing so!
A notch for the magats to use towards Martial law. Oh yes leel dt wants to call out the National Guard & obviously OUR LAWS don't matter to his henchmen
They need to get the names of those supposed "agents" and they need to be arrested for ATTEMPTED kidnapping. Period. Especially if they lied about having parental permission. Thats insane
Or 1950's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's U.S.
This has always been a possibility for immigrants, minorities, queers, and dissidents in America, just sloppier and more public now.
Finally someone standing up. I have a really hard time with people who hand themselves, or anyone else, over to 'authorities'. I can tell you all day how I'm the most successful violin virtuoso in history. I would be lying and you'd be an idiot for not verifying. Proud of the school.
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What kind of inhumane asshole do you have to be to work for ICE and also go along with this crap? Appeasers were as bad as the Nazis. Same applies here.
& Yr ass sitting in jails & prisons for Life would help your child out by??? How?
That's if you were lucky enough to be alive urself. Or quietly shipped to ...
So another prediction coming true. Children tricked into telling on their own parents. Unsuccessful this time, but they will continue doing this. How do these people sleep at night?
Hold up. Are we sure these plainclothes "agents" are bona fide agents? Are we certain they're not just random January 6 insurrectionists recruited to perform Illegal Government Kidnappings while wearing masks?
My son's elementary school recently changed their policy for admitting visitors into the building, restricting access almost completely. I have no doubt this is why.
If men are trying to lie their way into a school to "question" your child without your knowledge or presence, you should be able to legally, and absolutely without consequence, hospitalize/end those men.
Actually you all need to do this NOW.. Form a militia and any time you see anything from ICE end them.. If the local cops show up and want to play tough end them too.
They will soon run out of people wanting to do this stasi job.
If ICE is habitually lying to school administrators, at what point are school administrators justified in tasing them, in the believe that they're just some creeps lying about being ICE agents?
Practice pointer: In this circumstance, false claim of parental authority, you are within your rights (and may be compelled) to report an attempted abduction to the police.
You have to remember, we are haven't even reached the first 100 days since he took over. Also a lot of these bastards have been itching to do stuff like this for a very long time.
It's crazy how we got here Prem, I mean, some of us saw the warning signs, but it's been a relentless on slot of lawlessness and chaos. We definitely need to get all these ass wipes flushed
jfc. Yes, let's put guns in classrooms and expect that there's no safety concerns with children getting ahold of them. /s
This is not what teachers sign up for. A panicked person with a gun is a danger to themselves and others. Where's the tax payer money for training them at the fire range?🤦
Err, I was facetiously saying they needed to defend the kids from the ICE staff. I'm 100% for overthrowing the US government by whatever means are required, but it shouldn't be Miss Jones who teaches 3rd grade leading the charge.
Without further context, it's hard to tell tone with short messages like that. There are some *very* irrational folks out there who think this is a real solution. One of my sisters-in-law is a teacher and things have not been great for her the past few years.
If we survive this period, and reforms come as they often do in the wake of grievous abuse, we HAVE to make it illegal for law enforcement to lie to people. They do it all the time in interrogations, it's SOP, ICE routinely lies to people about their rights, and it's ll 100% legal.
Alberto Carvalho @lausdsup.bsky.social used to be the school superintendent in Miami. He’s the best! He will have those students’ backs against ICE or anything else Trump’s mob throws at L.A.
“I would put my job on the line in the protection of our students and our workforce. As a former undocumented teenager in this country, I cannot renounce, I cannot take off that skin, I cannot shed my experience.”
Anytime you interrogate a minor their parents or guardians are supposed to be there. That’s a law since I was a kid. Arrest the 2 clowns,let’s say for intimidation.
Once again, elementary school staff are standing up to ICE while the wealthiest, most powerful universities in the country meekly hand students over to anyone who shows up in black balaclavas and an unmarked car
2 things these assholes learned about public schools today.
1.We are going to circle the motherfucking wagons to protect our kids every time.
2. Try lying to some other organizations. You think ICE is gonna come up with a better excuse than a 12 year old who didn’t do his homework? Amateur hour.
I have had people involved in education in several generations in my family and the one thing they have in common is they know some bullshit when they hear it.
Yes, these people are heroes. Imagine standing your ground in the face of the supposed authority of the US government. Physically and personally. Way to go!
They have limited legal authority and are actively operating outside of it. In many cases, they are literally engaging in criminal kidnapping and human trafficking into slavery.
They know that if the fascists power slips, they will face serious legal penalties if not the direct wrath of citizens.
I get your point, but elementary schools are way more closed off and heavily secured than university campuses. People who don't work at the elementary school or parents of a kid there are never allowed in during school hours. Universities are free for anyone to walk around in. That makes it easier.
Not saying that universities should sit around and do nothing about this, but it's hard to enforce anything when you don't know when or where they will strike, randomly showing up unannounced and grabbing one of their students in broad daylight. That's their MO, unfortunately.
it almost makes one wonder if university officials are more worried about the $ and influence they get from their positions than their supposed causes.
Lord knows those elementary school folks ain't getting $ or influence from their gigs.
Makes you wonder who has the real sterner stuff. I say let these staff take a run at governing. They recognize the need to protect more than wealthy white folks at the wheel.
And there's the formula for Dem Party reform in a nutshell. We know who's made of sterner stuff - the folks who've had to fight for our rights against hostile institutions. Not the ones leading those institutions.
I've been working part time for a local school district and the WOMEN who staff school offices DO NOT PUT UP WITH BULLS**T because they take their duty to protect students seriously
Ms Karen Bass please demand that Tom Homan identifies the persons abusing their authority in this way and informs you what penalties he intends to apply. This should happen without delay; these men are a danger to children.
The ends that these creeps go to just to try to meet trumpies deportation numbers is staggering. If I was there, I’m afraid i would have been arrested for kicking them in the *****
This may seem trivial, but I really do think it could help if stuff like this is spoken about by personalities like @stephencolbert.bsky.social and @jimmykimmel.com and not simply absorbed as hard news. Exposure will scare them away from these tactics.
Ordinarily this would be a scandal. Did the schools call police to report the attempted contact with children? Agents or not, these people were adults trying to gain access to a school in order to speak with minors without parental consent.
May I remind you when we put children in literal cages our law enforcement officials molested them. Now they can just walk into their school to “question” them.
May I remind you when we put children in literal cages our law enforcement officials molested them. Now they can just walk into their school to “question” them.
ICE is made up of the worst of the worst since creation in 2003. They wanted and recruited the worst. Home Land Security is entirely a scam for Bush to give his friends our tax $
We need to start a directory that names these agents. If we can't shame the Administration we can publicly shame the agents participating. Let their neighbors know they are living next to monsters.
Tell me you’re not safe in Blue states without telling me.
Note: LAUSD (Los Angeles) is the largest school district in CA, second largest in the country, serving over 600,000 students, and already came out against Trump’s deportation plan entering schools before inauguration
Those are Nazi practices: undercover agents trying to get minors to unknowingly snitch on parents or friends. It's appalling that this is a tactic deployed by 'law enforcement' in what used to be 'the land of the free', but is now a totalitarian regime.
Nothing new. DARE was set up to put cops in classrooms in an attempt to lull kids into a sense of security and snitch on their parents for drug use under the guise of "the war on drugs". This country has been on the wrong path for a while. It's dizzying to see it go downhill so fast, though..
I am not familiar with D.A.R.E. Reading about it, it seems different. If only because the cops identified as such and the program seems to be to the benefit of the kids, aiming to keep them away from drug abuse.
What we see here are 'law enforcement' agents, in disguise and under false pretences, trying to speak to young kids. Phishing for information, probably to raid their homes and deport their families.
Same thing as DARE with higher stakes. DARE was a phishing scheme directed at getting clueless kids to get info on parents' drug/alcohol use at home.
It kinda glorified drug use, tbh. When the cops say their stated goal is ____, it's wise to keep the salt shaker handy.
Federal agents lying to interrogate kids at school? This isn’t law enforcement—it’s intimidation in disguise. LAUSD did the right thing, but this reeks of authoritarian overreach. When the government starts targeting children, we’ve crossed a dangerous line.
What about Stranger Danger folks. I see two skinheads talkin' up a little kid I know what that is all about! You can smack 'ICE' on the back of whatever you want, but we teach our kids not to talk to strangers and I can almost guarantee that you look just like every other perv out there to mothers!
So the US seems a little further down the road of being a totalitarian state. This cannot be let go - this was Government Agents abusing power clearly believing that they were impervious. Dear US, your rights are being flushed down Trump’s super size toilet.
That’s some brother Grimm level nightmare: “let us in! Let us in! We’re asking on behalf of your mother! She’s in trouble actually. Come with us! We also have candy in this van!” 😫🤬
I mean this evil needs to be exposed. Are they sadists? Are they “just following orders “? Who are these people? Surely they have been captured on camera.
They were sitting in the ICE lunchroom, wondering how they could make up their lagging deportation numbers, when Phil says, "Hey guys, what if we went to public grade schools and interrogated the kids until they turned in their family members?"
Law enforcement is allowed to lie to us, about everything, it's in their training. But we cannot reciprocate unless we are ok with being charged with a crime.
The Gestapo would go door to door looking for Jews. Are these DHS employees, local, law enforcement or contracted employees? Who are these evil people?
Good for LA.. and WTF? This is the state I live in… this is outrageous… and I’d be surprised if anyone can get on campus… they are pretty locked down here.. even as a parent you can’t get on he campus… and there’s usually a community service officer… real cop with a nice title..
I'm really sad to hear that wishing they stand a way from the kids.
So who care about our kids ?!!
While they are facing death, hunger, and deprivation?
Their homes and beautiful rooms have been destroyed, and they’ve lost their toys, their schools, and their right to an education.
while his mother does everything she can to keep him and his younger brother, Boody, connected to online learning through a small mobile phone clinging to their education in a life that no longer feels like life.
"It's okay, I have their parents' permission to talk with the kids." Is no different than "It's okay I know your mom, she asked me to pick you up from school today." Those kids would have been disappeared.
And incidents like these create a script for criminals outside of the government (as opposed to the government's criminals) to follow. Want to kidnap a kid? Just pretend you're from the federal government and lie your ass off. No uniform, documents, gear, or credentials necessary, apparently.
Yes! I couldn’t pick up my OWN children from their school without showing my ID at the door and being on the list. But they’re supposed to believe a stranger has permission because trust me bro?
For whatever reason, that seems to ring true. Hold out a badge, wear a suit or something, be a man of a "certain" hue, and doors are held open for you.
I seriously wish these mayors, governors would send in State Police/Sheriffs to arrest these goons for breaking the law, start throwing ICE agents into county jails gen pop for a week and see how they enjoy it.
Thanks, this is interesting. The “explosive devices” at tesla dealers a few wks ago was very J-6ish. They’re clearly trying to provoke people so they can invoke it.
Are ICE really cops though? They seem to break the law more than they enforce it. They're completely unprofessional. They seem more like bounty hunters than police to me.
"general prison population" are Not Our punishers by proxy.
If you disapprove of them bring criminals in Society why ask them to be your criminal in prison?
Do you pay them for their extracurricular violence?
Do you help them with Parole hearings when they are turned down for infractions?
What other renegade violence do you condone?
How do you control who does what when?
So you approve & promote violence without being a part of it or being involved in controlling it
Rrriiigght
What's ur opportunity? Using a Human you do not know as yr punisher? How do you get the right to use others for yr fantasy violence
The 52yo seamstress that had her car window broken so I've could arrest her - it was masked Policeman not the ice guy.
Mr police got impatient of Iceman talking that foreign stuff - WHACK!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl
puts shame to the craven colleges.
You do not talk to my kid without me there.
This has always been a possibility for immigrants, minorities, queers, and dissidents in America, just sloppier and more public now.
What kind of inhumane asshole do you have to be to work for ICE and also go along with this crap? Appeasers were as bad as the Nazis. Same applies here.
That's if you were lucky enough to be alive urself. Or quietly shipped to ...
No thanks.
Of course they are.
Gonna get worse? Jezus.
https://www.tiktok.com/@7jimmie77/video/7490707233030835502?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7491136177662150190
Your oppression is their profession.
Sociopathic.
They will soon run out of people wanting to do this stasi job.
...oh, you're telling me that they had a van?
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This is not what teachers sign up for. A panicked person with a gun is a danger to themselves and others. Where's the tax payer money for training them at the fire range?🤦
“… at Russell Elementary, they mentioned four individuals, ranging in grades between first and fourth grade.”
So a 1st grader deemed a threat to national security?
Alberto M. Carvalho @laschools.bsky.social
1.We are going to circle the motherfucking wagons to protect our kids every time.
2. Try lying to some other organizations. You think ICE is gonna come up with a better excuse than a 12 year old who didn’t do his homework? Amateur hour.
They know that if the fascists power slips, they will face serious legal penalties if not the direct wrath of citizens.
Lord knows those elementary school folks ain't getting $ or influence from their gigs.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Excellent_Sheep/F73nAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0
DO NOT LOOK AWAY
NOIW ACT
“Take their Names”
To track all such officers who are violating rights under this fascist regime
b) their superiors will not order them to (because neither LA nor California are interested in an armed showdown with federal agents)
Note: LAUSD (Los Angeles) is the largest school district in CA, second largest in the country, serving over 600,000 students, and already came out against Trump’s deportation plan entering schools before inauguration
It kinda glorified drug use, tbh. When the cops say their stated goal is ____, it's wise to keep the salt shaker handy.
G. T. F. O!!!!!!!
Probably not, but there should be.
Even my cat says that's just stupid.
They were sitting in the ICE lunchroom, wondering how they could make up their lagging deportation numbers, when Phil says, "Hey guys, what if we went to public grade schools and interrogated the kids until they turned in their family members?"
Phil always had the best ideas.
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Right?
Some of them could be pedophiles who knows.
Protect the children
So who care about our kids ?!!
While they are facing death, hunger, and deprivation?
Their homes and beautiful rooms have been destroyed, and they’ve lost their toys, their schools, and their right to an education.
Do they know
Do they know that my son Yamen, who is 9 years old, started learning programming when he was just six, in his very first of school.
Now, he helps me fill gallons of water, light the fire to cook food,
while his mother does everything she can to keep him and his younger brother, Boody, connected to online learning through a small mobile phone clinging to their education in a life that no longer feels like life.
We are Not numbers 💔👨👩👧👧🇵🇸
Governor: Do you want to keep your job?
Cop:...I'll nail them to the wall!
yeah, they're not going to do that
the nat guard is a military force, an arm of state violence
their purpose is to have guns
what do you suppose they should do to support lausd?
What *exactly* is the fuxking hold up here? It is time for armed militias to start patrolling and defending schools.
If you disapprove of them bring criminals in Society why ask them to be your criminal in prison?
Do you help them with Parole hearings when they are turned down for infractions?
What other renegade violence do you condone?
How do you control who does what when?
Rrriiigght
What's ur opportunity? Using a Human you do not know as yr punisher? How do you get the right to use others for yr fantasy violence
Mr police got impatient of Iceman talking that foreign stuff - WHACK!
uhhh...have you met cops lately?
They are probably parked around the corner laughing their asses off and taking bets on how many brown kids these guys could bag up.