UK MAGA fans getting increasingly marginalised, which doesn't make a huge difference to the wider world but is a mildly enjoyable sliver of a silver lining. - ThreadSky

samfr.bsky.social • 6 hours ago

UK MAGA fans getting increasingly marginalised, which doesn't make a huge difference to the wider world but is a mildly enjoyable sliver of a silver lining.

Reposted from Ben Ansell

Sun going absolutely ballistic on Vance here - furious quotes from across Westminster.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/politic...

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geordiedave1.bsky.social•4 hours ago

He didn't forget, he's just ignorant. Not a good place for a statesman of any level, let alone the VP of USA. Absolute car crash of an adminstration

o-loughl.in•6 hours ago

Will be interesting to see what this does for reform and Farage.

tadaaa.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I suspect Farage is sniffing the political winds - and is aware that the Lord Haw Haw line could stick

churchillsarrow.bsky.social•6 hours ago

nickequipechasee.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Him losing the Sun like this is the icing on the Cake for us here, but Vance's job is simply to speak 'Maga' 24/7, to keep them onside, while Donald & Elon dismantle their Country around them.

eve0m.bsky.social•26 minutes ago

The passive-aggressive shitheadery of him, 'I didn't say that, what are you getting so upset about'. Loathsome creep.

dcnajmwilliams.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Just saying... The US lost the American-Algerian War, the War of 1812, Red Cloud's War, the Formosa Expedition, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Bay of Bigs Invasion, the War on Drugs, the War on Terrorism, and the War in Afghanistan. The US now seems to have surrendered the Cold War.

jameswillby.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Badenoch has tried to excuse it.

Seriously. Her political talents once again on full display, the absolute weapon that she is.

stevecyfrin.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Perhaps we could mock the US for not having won a war since 1945

philmoura.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Maybe The Sun could call out the owners of TV channel platforming these liars.

colinelves.bsky.social•6 hours ago

If only there was some warning that they were like this.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

colinelves.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Nobody could have predicted that America First would mean screwing your overseas fans.

benansell.bsky.social•6 hours ago

On X the replies to Harry Cole are mixed - there’s clearly a crew of MAGA brained Brits shouting ‘he didn’t mention the UK’ but Harry has definitely seen which way wind is shifting. His team got quotes from across three parties too.

jposer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

At this point I have zero trust in the authenticity of twitter accounts, the number of LLM driven automated accounts is incredibly obvious.

My mentions feed is entirely crypto scam bots and has been for months.

benansell.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Absolutely. Sadly some of the replies did appear to be from real people

jposer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Miserable.

davidneilhamilton.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Definitely worse when human intelligence can’t even summon chatbot levels of sentience

samfr.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Yeah - hard for the most far gone to shift back and/or are too dependent on US income streams but it marginalising them which is good news.

zaphodbeeblebr0x.bsky.social•6 hours ago

That’s assuming they aren’t sitting in an office in st petersburgh

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

On the one hand, authoritarians in different countries can work together and form supportive international organisations completely regardless of anything they say about transitional organisations/foreign interference.

Which seems to surprise people every time they notice.

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

But on the other hand, they are selfish ****ers who make a performative virtue of kicking other people under buses regardless even of self-interest.

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

People on the Right who were supportive but didn't see this coming have the least sympathetic combination of

- conviction that the weak deserve to be abused
- big blindspot over the strength of their own position
- complete naivety in their choice of allies

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

The perfect target for scammers - the sort of person who *needs* to feel smarter than all the dummies who wouldn't scam a poor, vulnerable Nigerian prince for a share of his own money "becaws it's not wight".

alannfylde.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Not like Harry 'you want principles, I've got 'em' ' Cole to change sides

samfr.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Matt Goodwin wrote a paean to Vance just a few weeks ago. My heart bleeds for him.

theodora.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Watching Farage squirm as both Tories and Labour sense a window to give him an absolute kicking is a true delight.

brennick.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Wasn't Badenoch praising him just a couple of weeks ago after his mad Munich speech?

davewvero.bsky.social•6 hours ago

And Truss extolling him! UK had a VERY lucky escape there after 49 days of stupidity.

bimblinghill.bsky.social•4 hours ago

It's a shame the US system can't eject a lunatic quite so quickly

adamcobb.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Trump is terrible but I can just about see why the camp exuberance appeals to some people. Vance appears to have no redeeming qualities whatsoever? He’s full of himself, nasty and sycophantic, a really toxic combination.

davidallengreen.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Sillybilly Elegy.

With the UK Vance fans as the sillybillies.

acarpen.bsky.social•4 hours ago

NEWZ: “Outbreak of foot in mouth disease suspected in Washington” 👀

wtfrench76.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Said in a Denis Healey voice.

pwc50.bsky.social•6 hours ago

From the BBC August 2024:
https://bsky.app/profile/pwc50.bsky.social/post/3ljkcwqwglc2v

davidallengreen.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I have read his book.

pwc50.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I admire your zeal David 😉

I doubt I'd cope...

jnanagarbha.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Thoughts and prayers. 🙏🏼

deanoflaw.bsky.social•4 hours ago

His book is really interesting. I am finding it difficult to understand his politics now when you understand where he came from.

wulfsternhammer.bsky.social•6 hours ago

I saw more combat than Vance, and the closest I got was being headbutted by an illegal immigrant I caught whilst on border patrol in the Hong Kong New Territories 🤣

liammcreanan.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Badenough currently saying that statement specifically about France and UK wasn't really about France and UK.

misgivings.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Shillbilly Elegy

almightrex.bsky.social•4 hours ago

slumdog hillbillionaire

andygeology.bsky.social•4 hours ago

George Osbourne was a major cheerleader for Vance last summer.
I can't be bothered to listen to his rotten podcast to find out if he's recanted.

heatherburnstech.bsky.social•4 hours ago

All credit to the Trump administration for doing the most to bring the United Kingdom together since London 2012.

kschafheutle.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Some want a legacy, others just a sillibilly eulogy.

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Vance, Musk (and Trump to a lesser degree) all fall into this weird class where people keep making unnecessary orphan asides to assert that they're actually very intelligent.

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It's weird because it generally doesn't connect to anything - these are mostly not people saying "they're very intelligent *so you should just assume this is programme is good*" - it's more like a confused reflex.

mariosrichards.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Or a weird displacement mechanism - like looking at a map of Europe in 1940 and then pointedly launching into an essay on your thoughts and speculations about Hitler's secret views on theology.

explaintrade.com•6 hours ago

"The real problem with JD Vance is that people are mean to me on college campuses," by Matt Goodwin based on polling conducted in his living room.

teaanddata.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Bunch of ferrets is called a business. So it's coincidence that the whole of the Reform UK 'party' is a doing a reverse business.

moon-monkey.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Naaa, Fuck im'

reddave63.bsky.social•2 hours ago

I never realised that the educational attainment and standards were so low in the US. Shameful comments.

nicolaandfinley.bsky.social•1 hour ago

I think they’re doing a great job destroying the right all over the world. It’s all we can hope for

voiceofpericles.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Surely this is the straw that breaks the camels back with a number of them.

vadkakukk.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Just been to the dark side of fb to check out the comments. Lots of "trump is right", "we're not being told the whole story"
and an insane number of likes on "I'll break my kids legs rather than send them to fight this war"

voiceofpericles.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I think the Mail, Sun and Express will bring some people over if they continue reporting on this the way they are. Others are unfortunately are beyond saving. That's what people like Trump count on - their supporters burning personal bridges and have nothing left but to plough on blindly behind him.

vadkakukk.bsky.social•5 hours ago

I hope so. It would help if the bbc didn't keep giving farage a disproportionate amount of airtime. Making their views socially unacceptable is definitely the way to go.

voiceofpericles.bsky.social•4 hours ago

They could start by calling him out on his lies rather than the "our job is to show people what he said, it's up to the viewers to decide the truth" bollocks.

voiceofpericles.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Like Boris and Farage defending him against accusation after accusation only for Trump to prove the accusations correct over and over again until they have no remaining honour or dignity and no choice but to follow him into oblivion.

gregorynorminton.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Reform is still riding high in the polls. With our divided electorate and FPTP, 25% or even 20% support makes Farage a grave threat to democracy and the rule of law.

wokinglass.bsky.social•2 hours ago

I now get what FW Vance’s job is. It’s to be more obnoxious and more pathetic than his boss, Toddler Trump.

fragiletruce.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Moron (Vance): "The best security guarantee is to give [us...cash]." Real wise guy: "Good lad Zelly, we've always liked you".

jodami.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Lie down with dogs…

ianstev91.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Of the US's allies in Europe, Asia-Pacific and the Americas 30 had fatal casualties in Afghanistan and 22 in Iraq.

alannfylde.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Has he lost Truss yet?

a-e-m.bsky.social•3 hours ago

UK MAGA fans? How can anyone be a fan of Trump and his cronies who want to do this country harm by smearing our military and our values and by actively seeking to do us economic harm? Donald Trump wouldn’t cross the road to help us in our hour of need and it is naive to think otherwise.

minzylikesjazz.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Any comment from Liz Truss and her MAGA hat?

dlwatkin.bsky.social•5 hours ago

but why follow jesse singal ?

snoopster.bsky.social•6 hours ago

They are definitely going to have to do some serious rowing if they want to make it back from their previous position that he was just challenging Europe by speaking hard truths.

tadaaa.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Some are so far gone they will still be chuntering their Quisling bullshit as Trump deploys troops alongside Russians

kezlajones.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Vance is back peddling now. Surprise surprise. 🙄

johnglenn.bsky.social•6 hours ago

There was a time when respectable people supported Stalin and the Soviet Union. The number dwindled over time.

perivale.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It might make a difference in the wider world if it pulls our discourse back towards the centre and strengthens our commitment to European rearmament

mikebarrett1943.bsky.social•5 hours ago

He didn't forget, he is just pig ignorant like the rest of the Trump cabal.

lindaler.bsky.social•5 hours ago

Has any western democracy declared war (within it's international legal meaning) since WW2? Korea and Vietnam were "police actions".

stephaniemac.bsky.social•5 hours ago

In normal times this would have been a resigning matter. But I’m actually more worried about what absolute freak they’d drag up if Vance did quit

doesjoknow.bsky.social•5 hours ago

It's great for print journalism to finally be catching up but I've been subjected to the views of UK MAGA podcast listeners and radio listeners. Will that audience know they've been marginalised? Some of it is direct from the source! (The internet was a mistake 😭)

darringtonsibyl.bsky.social•6 hours ago

It makes a difference to the UK though. Hopefully it changes minds enough to halt the march of the Reform party.

rob-not-numbers.bsky.social•3 hours ago

magats should live in fear

standaman60.bsky.social•4 hours ago

This will kill Reform and if Badenoch is not careful the Tories. The one thing their base is very sensitive about is British militarism.

I would imagine that JD Vance's comments play very badly even if they were true doubly so because they are not.

markbri25.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Farage

satmandu.bsky.social•4 hours ago

Tokens get spent.

tb4all.bsky.social•2 hours ago

He is a buffoon? He is a different kind of stupid! 🇺🇦💙

humanity101.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Absolutely 💯 ✔️🙌

gareth0108.bsky.social•2 hours ago

i wonder how many of the 40 odd countries uk forces are deployed in at the moment are actually protecting trade for huge american multinationals ?

jb-58.bsky.social•3 hours ago

Schadenfreude was invented for just such occasions.

simonbeechinor.bsky.social•6 hours ago

Will Americans fight for their constitution when the time comes (is that now?) or will they be too supine by then?

baldzera.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The 30 years is revealing, because the UK wasn't at war in 1995. This is mid-2000s internet trolling at its most pure: not only am I saying something false and offensive, I'm saying something so false that you don't even know where to start your argument against it, and it's funny to watch you try.

baldzera.bsky.social•3 hours ago

The entire administration is in many ways reminiscent of this thread, where https://bodybuilding.com users try to explain how many days there are in a week to an uncooperative member who is worried about overtraining https://web.archive.org/web/20150105082427/https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751

elthampug.bsky.social•3 hours ago

I saw a rather pathetic sight here in London a few days ago, some old bloke on a disability scooter wearing a MAGA hat. Definite ‘turkey for Christmas’ vibe.

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