So, look. When I was back at Microsoft, an issue that came up was the device owner's need for privacy. There might be things on your device you don't want people to see! The semi-official code for these was "family photos". - ThreadSky

djangowexler.bsky.social • 323 days ago

So, look.

When I was back at Microsoft, an issue that came up was the device owner's need for privacy. There might be things on your device you don't want people to see! The semi-official code for these was "family photos".

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Generative AI isn't just for predatory billionaires, it's also for hack directors who want to be able to exploit women from beyond the grave
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rutrow.bsky.social•323 days ago

Anything I don't want anyone to see I put in my PowerPoint folder.

alphadork.bsky.social•321 days ago

There was an episode of dark mirror about this

https://www.vox.com/culture/2023/6/23/23770239/black-mirror-joan-is-awful-review-ai-annie-murphy-salma-hayek

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

As in, we'd be making a feature like "the device automatically makes a slideshow out of images you put on it and uses it as a screensaver." And someone would say, "well, but you might not want your family photos to come up in a work context."

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

Which everyone in the room understood to mean "you don't want your laptop to start displaying your porn stash in a meeting."

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

Pretty sure everyone here is engaged in the same exercise, because I guarantee nobody gives a shit about custom rom-coms. The use case is "Marilyn Monroe" (read: "any female celebrity, probably not a dead one") "makes a rom-com" (read: "engages in your extremely specific fetish".)

cloudbear.bsky.social•323 days ago

This sounds dangerous in a 'stalker lives in a fantasy world that is made more real' type of way.

slowpiracy.bsky.social•323 days ago

For the record, I do care about someone's likeness being used without their consent - especially after death. I'm *more* concerned about it being used for sexual fetishes

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

And if they claim not to be doing that, they're "not doing it" in the sense that OBVIOUSLY it's against the terms of service, and of course they're happy to respond to takedowns, but the volume of user content is so high, you see...

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

One thing AI has in common with crypto is that boosters are well aware the primary use cases are both illegal and immoral; they don't care but can't say so in public.

lawnerd.bsky.social•323 days ago

Everything you’re saying is true, Django, but I also want to note that I would curl up in a ball and die if
I was forced to watch even 30 seconds of an artificially generated romcom in which I was starring

webrant.bsky.social•323 days ago

Because, just like embracing fascism, it's all about concentrating capital at all cost to the rest of us.

https://bsky.app/profile/djangowexler.bsky.social/post/3kq2so4hk6n2c

djangowexler.bsky.social•323 days ago

Since this has gone around a bit let me clarify some things. I use the terms as they're commonly used: crypto to mean cryptocurrency (cryptography is fine) and AI to mean the latest generation of generative models, as Russo meant in OP.

carlnyberg312.bsky.social•323 days ago

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alttag.bsky.social•323 days ago

Stop it.

Some set of VC-funded AI companies, yes, but not AI in general.

Self driving, cancer diagnosis, aircraft routing, autonomous agents, etc., etc, all have valid use cases.

These morons are just going after “low-hanging fruit” enabled by their lack of ethics.

alttag.bsky.social•323 days ago

Not AI generally, but the big, splashy, VC ones, yeah.

The real work of AI is incremental improvement. Moral actors are maintaining transparency and human agency.

diogeneslamp.bsky.social•322 days ago

There's something wrong with a technology where the only profitable uses aren't legal, and the only legal uses aren't profitable

stsparky.bsky.social•323 days ago

Math used to steal -

eclesis.bsky.social•323 days ago

New technology for fraudulent lawsuits.
"I have recorded evidence of this person intimidating me over the phone!"

zoopaul.bsky.social•323 days ago

I feel the reality of whatever future we have is that the end-user - the person at home - wants what they want when they want it. Nothing else matters to them. If a tool gives them that then they're going to use it whether morality or laws or ethics say different.

chadlevinson.com•323 days ago

The skeleton key to understanding today’s tech elite is still Zuck scraping women’s photos off the Harvard student website and inviting people to judge who was hotter

iskios.bsky.social•321 days ago

Wait, I get the immoral, but illegal?

nataliereed84.bsky.social•322 days ago

As dirty as it feels to say a single solitary thing in defense of cryptocurrency, not all illicit online transactions were immoral, nor even necessarily illegal. There's a pretty decent chunk of dark web transactions where the immorality is that the extreme privacy is necessary in the first place.

storywonker.bsky.social•323 days ago

These firms really don't seem to be thinking through the potential legal and political consequences of the really unsavoury uses of the tech.

vmcntosh.bsky.social•323 days ago

There are absolutely some legal uses where AI can be helpful, even a boon.

But most internet tech gained traction because of porn and too often the safety team is overruled on potential future scope. Even if faster release can do harm, they don’t spend enough time & cash on the safeguards.

rmoonhill.bsky.social•323 days ago

To be fair the main VC firm (Andreesen Horowitz) funding this shit did, in fact, say something to the effect of "we know the only way for this to work is stealing everything we possibly can and making us do it legally or morally will bankrupt us" so at least there's that.

jennvg.bsky.social•323 days ago

Sure, but part of the grift is to wink it to the public. Crypto marks fell for it because they thought they were gonna get away with something sketchy. Most any con is pretty clear in saying this is a con but YOU special smart person that you are can get in on the ground floor and fleece the rubes.

clementinedanger.bsky.social•323 days ago

As of yet I see no way to use AI to have LSD and hookers delivered to my doorstep so crypto is still the superior scam.

free-or-best-offer.bsky.social•323 days ago

every Marketing App got the testimonial from a family business curing puppies,
but most of the customers are failed life coaches who forgot to cancel

realamericanhombre.bsky.social•323 days ago

The logical endpoint of this is that once they've perfected "[insert my] face into porn starring [insert my 3rd grade teacher] at [insert my office]" the technology's public-facing uses will flounder.

(because the vast majority of people consuming porn do not care much beyond the insertion aspects)

tdawry.bsky.social•322 days ago

You say that but Microsoft scraped all of GitHub, licenses be damned.

lammatic.hellthread.vet•323 days ago

Romcom fans don't want this we want to marathon the same 4 Meg Ryan movies because we're depressed

claudiaputnam.bsky.social•323 days ago

They know that. It's code, jeez

saddestrobots.bsky.social•323 days ago

a work doesn't have to be pornographic to be leering, creepy, and exploitative, though

reactionary guys in particular have this insatiable urge to approach everything with the mindset "this is wank material for me!!" even when they're not asking for explicit sex and nudity

ashgunnywolf.bsky.social•320 days ago

Considering Marilyn Monroe's tragic history of being sexualized against her wishes and exploited, they're saying a lot more than they mean to when they use her name

oranmath.bsky.social•323 days ago

I get your point but I feel like the WGA and SAG-AFTRA and IATSE and the AFM would all probably mind the “custom rom coms” too

jl8e.bsky.social•323 days ago

I bet a bigger use case will be the even-creepier “somebody you know in person”

loki1001.bsky.social•323 days ago

Overwhelmingly the primary use for generative AI is to make porn, but every generative AI company desperately wants seed money and so tries to make sexually explicit creation impossible. This results in a hilarious escalation where they are fighting their user base always poking to find the hole.

loki1001.bsky.social•323 days ago

Also, if you play around with them enough, you can tell exactly what people are training them on because it has some genuinely fascinating problems with depicting men.

marshray.bsky.social•322 days ago

What are you talking about?

I don’t have any “porn stash”.

Probably it was just you.

wendelschwab.bsky.social•323 days ago

I hear this happened to Steve Ballmer once.

"Developers developers developers developers!"

jessimurray.bsky.social•321 days ago

Similarly while I was at MSFT we used “buying a gift for your spouse” as a reason for not wanting to automatically share info about your purchases when it was clearly “people buy some sketchy stuff online”

radiohusky.us•316 days ago

I read stuff like this and im happy im only a datacenter monkey....

kithrup.bsky.social•323 days ago

Only related for the euphemism, but a big market for Apple, long ago, that they didn’t want to talk about was “premium content.” Lotta “premium content” producers down in San Fernando Valley, in particular.

erikahall.bsky.social•322 days ago

lol I'm going to start telling people I grew up in Premium Content.

ashelucia.com•316 days ago

I died of laughter at the "Highly competent story" part.😂 Generative AI stories are trash. They're never going to be competent because GAI has no emotion or understanding of creativity.

Hilarious that film and techbros can't see this.

aletheion.bsky.social•323 days ago

Like I read that thing and...its gonna be used for porn, Which, sure but like I really don't like the vehemence that predictive LMs n image recombimulchers are forced into shit while they hallucinate worse than all of burning man on acid

bigpurplecat.bsky.social•323 days ago

In similar circumstances and for similar reasons, we called them pre-family photos.

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