They never had any intentions of "their stated objectives of peace and prosperity."
If a lion tells all of the zebras, elephants, wildebeest, and giraffes, he will only eat plants and be meek and mild. They'd be naive to believe him! HE'S THE KING OF THE JUNGLE!
Frightening how absolutely unengaged, unserious, and quite simply foolish bankers are.
Realized all of a sudden that they're not interested in helping you be prosperous? That they just want all the money for themselves?
In a panic back in Nov, I asked our financial advisor what happens to our retirement plan when we lose our social security & Medicare? Or if we lose our jobs before 67?
He said, no politician would get rid of those programs!
Bullshit. If I knew how dangerous and unhinged these s.o.b.s are, there is no way anyone in the financial world did not know it.
Ass-covering language will not work.
reading this and wondering if there is any update on whether the deputy political editor thinks it was actually a nazi salute yet? or is it still too early to tell?
I truly believe that the Wall Street execs didn't understand the evil tech nerds' intent to fully capture our gov't, & to purposefully destabilize the economy, as per their dystopian tech-nazi dreams. All the stiff shirts focused on was tax cuts & deregulation. Complete failure of imagination.
They had no intentions of doing anything but what they want it’s revenge power and money. That’s all that matters to these motherfuckers and how no one could see this and until now is bullshit he told you he was gonna fuck everything up. You still voted for him!
I worked for a financial advice company during the election and our CEO said something to the effect of “business was good in the first Trump administration and business was good in the Biden administration so we expect whether Harris or Trump is elected business will still be fine”
Okay, I thought only low-information voters elected him. If these guys didn’t have a clue, we were doomed from the moment the GOP failed to impeach him after 1/6.
"We kissed Trump's ass, because we knew if he won, there would be retribution if we hadn't kissed his ass. We also knew that there would be no consequences for kissing Trump's ass had Harris won." - every gutless executive in the US.
You're never safe from a fascist, you're just further down the list. LGB people who heiled him on over transphobia, you're just the next along! And yes, same for these business leaders. A second late licking his boots, and he's after you!
Not sure what stated values you are referring to: monetary or ideological.
I really dislike the quoting of corporate market values (current trading price x number of shares) as if it were real money. That's hype of the moment money, and nobody can really access any significant fraction of that.
They're not as smart as lawyers, but the same adage applies:
How do you know when they are lying? It's when their lips are moving. Anything 'stated' is much more likely to be misdirection and later outrage basis than actual goals.
How in the kentucky fried fuck can you lack the foresight to see handing power to a deranged convicted felon, legally defined rapist, and an ACTUAL TRAITOROUS INSURRECTIONIST who attempted via multiple means to destroy US democracy last time would be an existential catastrophe?
Let that be a lessons to those who think the people running Wall Street are somehow geniuses and worthy of their astronomical paychecks because TheY pReDicT tHe FutURe.
one of the biggest business-side selling points of DEI back in the day (before it was even called that) was letting you forcibly carve out a few areas for improvement out of the calcified nepobaby idiot blocks
but if these idiots can't even remember 2017 in 2025 they'll hardly remember 1995
They got so used to Trump lying about everything (and somehow thought that was ok for a president) that they didn't believe anything he said and justified it to vote for him
It is absolutely crazy when reviewed from the outside
Just like here in Germany after 1945 - the few people who actually admitted to having read „Mein Kampf“ were saying „Yes, I read it, but who could have known that he would actually do what he was telling he would do?“.
Is this a related thing to the media sanewashing when they would "translate" Trump's insane or unintelligible crap because they thought he couldn't have meant what actually came out of his mouth?
People have short memories. They forget the constant stream of chaos, weird tweets, talk of dictatorship, and the coup attempt. Instead you had a weird nostalgia for the first Trump term develop.
I think they did forget. I had to remind a supporter of the Muslim travel bans when he was complaining about not being able to stop immigrants on planes. 🙄
Amazing how incredibly stupid 'educated' execs are! My teen turned 18 in 2016, wanted to vote republican (Kasich). Went to a Trump rally, said Trump "seemed like an idiot and idiots attract idiots."
A teenager in high school figured it out! And these white execs (really the meritless hires), even had the benefit of seeing Trump fellating a microphone at his last rally!
The Putin loving pendejo, failed in all his businesses, liar/cheat. And bankers know tariffs are bad!
They thought they would avoid the consequences while reaping the benefits. Oh, plus that one banker who wanted to say ret&rd without consequences. I guess they still have that?
Maybe he shouldn't have bought the "Peace and Prosperity" stuff when Donald Trump was shouting "Make America Great Again." It was sold by a greedy con man grifter.
I can't believe that anyone paying attention could have had any doubt about what Trump 2.0 was going to be like. It was all laid out clearly in "Project 2025" (available online as a PDF). One aim, explicitly stated, is to dismantle the administrative state.
Exactly this.
I can forgive, to an extent, a portion of the general publics ignorance.
But peoples who's FREAKING JOB it is to understand and manage risk? I'm a layman and I knew it would be horribly chaotic anti growth admin.
I think these people are not that smart. We warned you. You also see how these ppl behave in business and you saw Trump in this job once before. Either these Wall Street types are not the brightest bulbs.
Gee, if only his fecklessness, petty nature, and ruthless incompetence could have been foreseen somehow, like if there were some sort of history from which to refer.
I spent 12 years with the sharks of Wall Street they know EXACTLY what was happening but like history will show they always think they are smarter than everyone else. That’s why we get the Great Depression the bear markets of the 70s, the crash of 87, the Silicon Valley bubble bust of 2000….
I recall a very insulting letter to the industry by a hedge fund manager who was shutting his fund down and retiring after making a fortune from the 2008 crisis. Called them all idiots and that taking their money was easy.
A truly disgraceful lapse of intelligence. The signs of Trump’s intended coup were unmistakable and predictable by anyone capable of passing a basic civics course.
It's almost like there wasn't list of nearly 30K times that Trump lied or a history of where Trump was an abject failure as a businessman, or even a prior period of 4 years that someone could recollect to a time where Trump occupied the president's office and made us all a fucking joke.
So little understanding of what a psychopathic narcissist is capable of! I guess if the educated, talented CEOs got fooled I shouldn’t be surprised the naive fundamental Christians and undereducated working class got fooled.
On one hand they're going, "Tax cuts, no regulations, no enforcement of ethics, environmental or anti-trust laws, legalized bribery - this is Capitalist Nirvana. But on the other hand they're thinking, "He's totally nuts and is he going to crash the U.S. and the world's economy!"
When you only hear what you want to hear. He told everyone this is what he was going to do. Everything was out there. They got such a boner for tax cuts they only heard “tax cuts.”
“How *greedy* must you be to become a Wall Street business leader…?” FTFY (and the answer is, “Bringing an end to 250 years of an anti-artistocracy democracy-level of greed.”
I have a hard time believing that those in business leadership could be this fucking stupid. It's the viewpoint of someone whose only impression of Trump comes from economic performance before the pandemic, ascribes it (incorrectly) to him, and outright ignores oceans of evidence from the last...
decade about his leadership style and how he was always marching through the dictator's playbook. Perhaps this is the hubris of thinking that the only relevant political activity is economic policy. But even then!
So, these people are unbelievably rich thanks to their supposed superior ability to predict outcomes. Yet now, they have proven to have missed the most obvious outcome.
I would infer from that that the reality they observe—the one that makes them rich—isn't actually a real realtiy.
These business "leaders" believed the "stated objectives" of Trump, a convicted felon & seditionist, who, according to the Washington Post, told more than 30,000 public lies in his first term? None of them considered the possibility that just about anything Trump says is probably false?
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They thought it would be the same without him doing the dumb things he said.
Do you like all the flu pandemic memorials from 1919?
Nobody remembered. We have a blind spot for that sort of thing.
If a lion tells all of the zebras, elephants, wildebeest, and giraffes, he will only eat plants and be meek and mild. They'd be naive to believe him! HE'S THE KING OF THE JUNGLE!
You fell for the okie doke.
Showed
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Which
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Didn’t
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Rich Person vs Dirty Commoners
They’ll always support their own.
Grateful I knew, he didn't and never has gotten my vote!!!!
How are these banking executives so stupid and forgetful of what is was like in 2017...?
If you knew, but voted for them anyway, you’re probably a fascist.
Miss me with these ‘oh we didn’t think he’d be THAT bad’ statements unless you share their names.
They need to publicly apologize for helping ruin everything.
Trump has turned all markets into casinos. And we all know what happened to his casino.
Anyway, what happens when Mr Market realizes Musk is starving the broad economy of dollars?
Sounds familiar.
I heard retribution.
Realized all of a sudden that they're not interested in helping you be prosperous? That they just want all the money for themselves?
Roe vs Wade.
The # of pundits & experts who called told us we were hysterical to think that they'd *actually* overturn it & lose their major fundraising driver...
Just like they said 'they'll never do Project 2025, it'll wreck the world economy! It's just talk for votes!'
He said, no politician would get rid of those programs!
I said, they're nihilists, not politicians.
🤷whelp 🚬💀🍺
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Ass-covering language will not work.
I’m so fr. Print them. Bring the justified protest into the “real world”.
“Are we to blame those American industrialists…”
WALL STREET ASSHOLES
Not a shred of sympathy here
In my memory it centered more on a fake story about someone eating dogs and cats, and Trump wanting to deport 11 million people on that basis
The minute these execs push back when they finally can’t stomach the Fourth Reich any more, they are done.
They will become another concentration camp resident.
"AND THEY BELIEVED THEM?!"
The market tends to overreact to news good and bad well in advance of actual effects.
The concern here is about the believability of the stated values IMO. Even they are struggling with it.
I really dislike the quoting of corporate market values (current trading price x number of shares) as if it were real money. That's hype of the moment money, and nobody can really access any significant fraction of that.
How do you know when they are lying? It's when their lips are moving. Anything 'stated' is much more likely to be misdirection and later outrage basis than actual goals.
They do want the outrage.
How in the kentucky fried fuck can you lack the foresight to see handing power to a deranged convicted felon, legally defined rapist, and an ACTUAL TRAITOROUS INSURRECTIONIST who attempted via multiple means to destroy US democracy last time would be an existential catastrophe?
Moron 🤦♂️
I need to work this into my vocabulary. Been needing some new modifiers for my expletives. Also need new expletives.
but if these idiots can't even remember 2017 in 2025 they'll hardly remember 1995
It is absolutely crazy when reviewed from the outside
Or even, he'll eat someone else's face first, so it's fine! say the women who voted for him due to transphobia.
(And, you would be.)
Trump and Musk will strip this country for parts unless bankers tell the Senators and judges they bought and paid for to act.
Do the CEOs of Chase, Citi, BoA, PNC, M&T, & others realize that their customer base is rapidly shrinking?
I wonder how much they care?
The Putin loving pendejo, failed in all his businesses, liar/cheat. And bankers know tariffs are bad!
"You knew I was a snake and you let me in anyway".
These bankers/CEOs need to stand up NOW before it's too late to defend America from Trump/Musk disasters.
I can forgive, to an extent, a portion of the general publics ignorance.
But peoples who's FREAKING JOB it is to understand and manage risk? I'm a layman and I knew it would be horribly chaotic anti growth admin.
We all say this coming, obviously.
“Sure, we did it for the cash. But I didn’t realize my neighbor’s son who is a veteran, was gonna lose his job.”
Same with Hitler and the Nazis ..
The German industrialists who backed and brought him into power
Did not realise once he became Chancellor, he was unstoppable having installed his lieutenants into all parts of the German state
#ClownsIdiots
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/how-big-business-bailed-out-nazis
I would infer from that that the reality they observe—the one that makes them rich—isn't actually a real realtiy.
Trump was telling them exactly who he was and exactly what he planned to do.