God led the charge against Clinton. Was Harris not progressive enough either? What's a good enough candidate to to please progressives and moderate, unaffiliated voters? I'll wait.
I don't believe there is that much thought put into it. What's happening is pure simple manipulation, not reasoned thought.
There are no "reasons" why Trump was elected.
Dems have a 40-year record of restoring and maintaining the economy, especially the middle class. That needs to be the front page, back page, and every page in between of their rebrand. It’s always the economy. Identity politics can’t be front and center anymore.
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The center left dominate in Canada, and we have 2 left of center parties, and 1 (far) right of center. The centrists and left leaning could lose because we will split our vote unless the left of center merge. (See France election 2024) don't go 3 parties.
Just my opinion.
Like why can’t they just use the system to get their voters what they want? They do so much to stay neutral meanwhile the other side could give two turds
Democrats need to fully embrace a Bernie Sanders type of platform.
They have to offer the rural and working class something of substance to sway them away from the crack-pipe of hate, racism, and grievance, which gives them an easy scapegoat for their suffering.
💯 Dems need to loudly embrace positions like safe gun laws (sounds like an oxymoron), healthcare for all, pro-choice, pro-immigrant, clean energy, progressive tax system.
If they wanted to really represent their constituents they wouldn’t require you to “donate” every time they send you a clickbait email poll. Having their hand out while listening is a terrible strategy.
I'm with you God. if the DNC won't change, maybe it's time to blow up the two-party system once and for all with a real independent party for the middle class?
I's taught and brought up there, the laws to abide
And that the land that I live in has God on its side
Dream all you want. We have a 2 party system now and forever. It's structural. How many elections do you have to lose to understand that? Gore and Hillary in particular should have made that clear. Think about where we'd be if we had won both of those elections? They were consequential.
We have that because we’ve allowed it to happen. It’s not the way it was intended and it’s inefficient. I’d much rather see many smaller parties forced to compromise, than what we have now.
The GOP has already been taken over by Corporate America. If the DNC won't move in the direction of supporting the working class (at a leadership level), then they can join the Whigs and Federalists in the History books.
Thats just it...we need to unite the working class. There are many more of us than there are of them. I hope to see us stop trying to force morality on each other and focus on the things we can actually agree on as a citizenry.
The only person who could have been a third party candidate would've been Bernie. A lot of Trumps' voters just wanted change and economic relief. That's why Trump took Bernies economic rhetoric even if he never made it policy.
If Bernie actually ran & DNC didn't get in his way, he could've won.
Stein has never been a serious third party candidate. She just pops up every 4 years to siphon votes away from Democrats the. goes into hiding again.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she was on Putin’s payroll like Trump is.
Jill Stein was never a serious candidate, and the green party has no intention of ever doing anything more than putting up a spoiler candidate in the general elections
This is the issue. Third party puts everything into one person - stein (🤢) Bernie (🥹) but nothing into local and state. Nothing into ranked choice voting. No one wants to volunteer. No one shows up. They think their vote (or withholding it) is enough. It’s not.
She’s been running for what 20 years. She never does anything the rest of the time but disrupt the elections every four years. I don’t think she’s really trying all that hard. It’s a scam. Somebody needs to follow the money on her.
We need a 4 party system. House, Senate & Presidency should never be able to go to one party. There should have always been policies put in place where one party could never take complete control.
Workers Party? Get the unions, middle class and our platform is also blowing it all up, but the outcome is to crush billionaires and monopolies. Both will increase under Trump admin. Rebuilding? Open to ideas.
No! We have to understand the two party system is going to be here for a while and use it to our advantage.
Progressives, Liberals, and leftist need to build a coalition and vote together. We generally have a lot in common. Let's push for a progressive in the primary. But we need to vote either way
What does the DNC have to change other than how to effectively engage and mobilize voters? I think the content of their messaging was amazing but didn’t get word out quick enough or broad enough. Took too long kicking out Biden. The two party system will be around for a long time so get real.
That's all fine and dandy, but this system REALLY works well for Republicans, so the only think we'd be blowing up is the party that is already down in the dumps.
Two parties are due to the Electoral College and no runoffs.
Getting rid of the Electoral College and the part of the Constitution that says Congress votes for pres & VP if there's no clear victor would allow for viable, third party candidates.
After the collapse, we'll have a new constitution.
We need a progressive party to rise up. The democratic party will never rise to the occasion. They would rather let Trump destroy everything than risk their corporate donors having to pay more taxes.
In a sea of Democrats no one is currently like what people seem to be saying is required to win. And if anyone was like that they probably won’t survive the primaries. It’s not the DNC. It’s voters.
We lost because we are a nation of bigots, misogynists, racists, xenophobes, Christian crusaders, fascists and simply said, suckers. It’s hard to accept, but that’s who we are now. My question is, with full control of the gov’t, who will they blame when things turn to shit.
They're angry because they know accountability is coming from them and they can't escape it. See the problem is when you lie you have to keep lying and when you keep lying you always screw up and give yourself away. Eventually sooner or later most people are intelligent enough to catch on.
those people have been programmed to be outraged and see conspiracy theories everywhere. as soon as they won the infighting started, and they now have conspiracy theories about "deep state" republicans and backdoor deals and some even openly challenge trump!
Everyone is angry. Half of them just experienced what the victims of Bernie Madoff felt. The other half warned them and is angry they didn't listen and now we all have to pay the price of their rampant stupidity.
Toxic personalities stay toxic regardless of circumstance. They want more rage and/or narcissistic supply, and we are not suffering or crying enough for their pleasure.
Because they wanted their civil war. They wanted Kamala because they wanted the comfort of a democrat president, but to still be the rebels of society. They won, but not in the way they wanted to win.
Yeah. They can put their feathers down / put their mufflers back on their vehicles / take the FJB decals off the windows of their emotional support pickups, already.
I had been a Democrat since I was 5 and asked Grandfather why he was a Democrat. He told me the good they had done from 1900 on including Roosevelt.
I asked Mom why she was a Republican she said "Because only poor people are Democrats."
Well God, ya see, some of these flesh sacks were born defective. Their ability to tell right from wrong is broken & many of them are more angry about suffering the consequences of their actions than they are about winning. They believe in Hell, so keep it warm for em when they go there.
Nah. Spikes won't happen on our side of the globe. The weather patterns here are not as chaotic as Australias. But I do foresee cannon ball sized hail becoming a thing. That alone is terrifying.
No they don't. They'll just say they never said that or they didn't mean that...or project some other bs that's meant to distract. And their base will believe it.
You assume they know how government works or even care. They have reptile brains. Anything good? MAGA!! Anything bad? "those communist democrats again!" This is the level of engagement we are talking about here.
They had all three branches last time at the beginning of Trump's term. What did they do? They blamed all their problems on some phantom "Deep State" supposedly run by the Democrats.
But this time he’s getting rid of everyone in gov’t that doesn’t suck up to him.
He’ll have nobody to throttle him down and have to think about a second term.
They had all 3 last time until 2018. The 1st thing they did VERY 1ST DAY 1ST THING: they eliminated the ethics committee.
2nd and only other thing: BIG TAX BREAK FOR THE TOP 1%.
They are just angry. At the world. Who am I telling this, though? You and that gypsy fortune teller, the one with the big eye outside of the train station in Prague, already know all of this.
Because like the hulk, they’re always angry. His base are characterized by anger and bullying. They’re psychologically hurt people trapped in an adversarial mindset. They can’t be reasoned out of it, they have no emotional regulation
They want us to protest and cry and complain and be stubborn, and instead, everyone just went on to Bluesky and consoled and shared book recommendations.
Let me throw more at ya. Parallel Circuit, crime drama, and Ignite Earth Red Giant, sci-fi doomsday. Check out blurbs. https://www.wandavargasauthor.com
It’s dawned on them that with all the levers of power in their control, they’ll no longer be able to blame the Democrats for the approaching train wreck and shit show that is so easy to see looming on the horizon
I was at the grocery store in a mask because I have crappy lungs & like to breathe & some guy got really pissed when he saw me. A few minutes later, he passed me again and shoved my cart out of his way and walked past me. I'm just trying to shop without getting sick. Have any spare⛈️?
People get angry when you gray rock them. They were hoping to gloat over his win but our lack of reaction takes the wind out of their sails and diminishes their celebration. That makes them even angrier and I'm here for it!
Because they no longer will hearing the word "rigged". For them it was like a treat for a dog. You know, like Pavlov's dog? Say "rigged" and they start foaming at the mouth.
They also hate members of their cult. Look how they are treating the black and Latino MAGAs. They used them for the vote and spit them out. They don’t care abt them like they thought
Yes, exactly. Their racism knows no bounds. I feel bad that the Brown and Black MAGAs got played, but they had fair warning (Trump actually announced his plan for them) and voted for him anyway. No sympathy from me. They won’t get it until they GET IT. Unless it happens to them, it didn’t happen.
Same with Brexiters. They won and we’re still furious about .. we’ll everything it seemed like, but particularly remainers.. much like MAGAts just wanting too “own the libs”. Just unbridled anger.
Because they wanted an excuse to physically attack and hurt people. They wanted to feel the pleasure of stealing it from us. They wanted to see us in pain. But what they should be is scared, not angry, because we're fucking pissed and motherfuckers, there is no anger like righteous anger.
Were the alarm that keeps trying to wake them up from their brain washed slumber. He makes them comfortable with his hate rhetoric,as if it’s normal and acceptable, because he’s rich and powerful. They hear we’re here,or we’re resilient survivors.
They really wanted to lose so they could cry for the next four years like the big nazi infants they are?
They fucked around, now they're in the shit too.
They won in '16 too and never stopped bitching. It's their default. They're perma-pissed and "whatever it is....they're against it"
It's a sickness with the.
Just wait… They’re about to get Hulk angry in a minute… We tried to warn them now we don’t give a shit and told them… You’re on your own bub.. You voted for ALL this coming your way!!
All that angry hot air has to be vented somewhere!
What will be interesting is how they react to the resistance of everything Trump. And how they spin his upcoming failings to blame the Biden administration.
Day One he will take credit for the economy, wait on it.
They need the leftist elites to rage against or they'd run out and be left with having to actually think through what the MAGA, Christian White/Right is offering up.
Because they voted AGAINST women, children, POC, the LGBTQIA+ community, etc., but they didn't vote FOR anything and now they're realizing just how fucked supporting someone who is racist, sexist, and homophobic, leads to racist, sexist, and homophobic policies/attitudes.
It’s an unfillable emptiness in their soul or in their person, if you prefer. Just shallow, stupid, vicious people whose only pleasure is derived from tormenting others and seeing them deprived of what they need to lead a happy life; some simply to survive
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There are no "reasons" why Trump was elected.
The center left dominate in Canada, and we have 2 left of center parties, and 1 (far) right of center. The centrists and left leaning could lose because we will split our vote unless the left of center merge. (See France election 2024) don't go 3 parties.
Just my opinion.
It won’t matter who runs next time. If billionaires are allowed to power more money into the campaign.
They have to offer the rural and working class something of substance to sway them away from the crack-pipe of hate, racism, and grievance, which gives them an easy scapegoat for their suffering.
Problem is, people making 100K think they are wealthy.
Maybe reframe it as the overburdened versus the oligarchs.
Nobody likes the austerity Musk and Vivek are tasked to present as "fraud and waste".
"Fight! Fight! Fight!"
I am not a Marxist, but must say he got it right when he said -
I's taught and brought up there, the laws to abide
And that the land that I live in has God on its side
That Dylan is a smart fella.
If Bernie actually ran & DNC didn't get in his way, he could've won.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she was on Putin’s payroll like Trump is.
I'd never vote for Stein!
Isn't there a rule, or can there be, that if you don't qualify for ALL state's ballots, you can't be on ANY of them?
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Progressives, Liberals, and leftist need to build a coalition and vote together. We generally have a lot in common. Let's push for a progressive in the primary. But we need to vote either way
Getting rid of the Electoral College and the part of the Constitution that says Congress votes for pres & VP if there's no clear victor would allow for viable, third party candidates.
After the collapse, we'll have a new constitution.
KARMA will find them sooner than later
Again.
Again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUvBWiLeIpQ
I asked Mom why she was a Republican she said "Because only poor people are Democrats."
I changed parties in 2016. I joined the CNP.
They're ALL limbic system, and virtually no cortex.
He’ll have nobody to throttle him down and have to think about a second term.
2nd and only other thing: BIG TAX BREAK FOR THE TOP 1%.
Zero happiness in their lives.
Khalil Gibran
I mean.. as you well know.
They want us to protest and cry and complain and be stubborn, and instead, everyone just went on to Bluesky and consoled and shared book recommendations.
#IamMe
The DNC needs to find its spine. This 90's-era pity party should have ended decades ago.
They fucked around, now they're in the shit too.
It's a sickness with the.
What will be interesting is how they react to the resistance of everything Trump. And how they spin his upcoming failings to blame the Biden administration.
Day One he will take credit for the economy, wait on it.
They need the leftist elites to rage against or they'd run out and be left with having to actually think through what the MAGA, Christian White/Right is offering up.
They get enraged when I say “congrats and hope you get everything you voted for, everything they said they’d do!”
I wonder why.