That's mixed news. It is kind of corrupt. Hunter did commit crimes. I mean, I do think he was being persecuted, and it was completely political. But Republicans are absolutely going to point to this, when Trump pardons his allies, who committed crimes.
They have a 900+ page document that has been around for quite a long time now that documented how they were planning on doing this regardless of precedent.
Plus, it is only precedent if it goes through the courts and is ruled to be allowed. Otherwise, it's just some thing that happens.
Nothing the orange cult does or doesn’t do is the fault of anyone but themselves. Enough of saying this crap. Oops, Obama wore a tan suit, there goes Roe v Wade. That’s how shitty you sound and are being.
The first sentence was spot-on. Your arguments badly deteriorated, after that.
I just don't like the GOP being handed an even semi-legitimate argument.
Nah. It was a terrible move that reflects poorly on the entire Democratic Party. This was Biden’s last “Fuck you” to the Dem establishment that forced him out of his reelection bid. Hunter’s pardon shouldn’t be celebrated.
Disagree. It was a political witch hunt and Biden has the right to stop his son dying in jail. God knows what charges they'd trump up against him once in power. No point boo-hooing when Hunter was left rotting behind bars.
His trial, for all intents and purposes, had already ended. He was found guilty by a jury. If you think a pardon is going to stop Trump from going after him, you’re not paying attention.
I’m for the rule of law no matter who it punishes. I’m against tax fraud, no matter who commits it.
He wouldn't have avoided prison because the political pressure that led to his plea deal being rescinded would have been applied to getting him jailed for a long time . Then, once in power, they'd have trumped up more charges. He'd've died in jail for something most wouldn't even be prosecuted for.
Hunter's conviction was literally a witch-hunt. He was on track to take a plea deal that got ripped away from him once Trump allies decided to make it an issue. It was clear they wanted to crucify him just to hurt Joe, so I'm glad Joe said to hell with wokescolds, I'm just gonna protect my son
Totally agree. The prosecution was selective, vindictive, and explicitly politically motivated. James Comer said so from the house floor when David Weiss was executing the plea deal that Weiss withdrew the deal under political pressure.
Yes, I'm so glad he did that as he needed to do it to protect his son and the charges were ONLY made because of the WHINY A$$ RETHUGS & who are nothing but a PARTY OF CRIMINALS!
This is good news for who exactly? Because it sure as hell isn't for you and me. This is pointless to bother with anymore. White Women failed to vote. It would seem they don't actually give a shit about who's in control of their body.
And while everything's going into the s****** I was pleased to see Biden have a spine and do the right thing for his son. The nepotism grifting and complaining gets another four years so yeah I think it's great that a Democrat finally finally stands up for themselves.
Biden should blanket pardon all the employees of the entire federal government - past and present in perpetuity. Let Trump choke on having a million civil servants saying F you.
I love it! Biden knows Trump would come after Hunter like he had promised even though he has pardoned criminals one after the other and now appointing sexual assaulters and other criminals to his cabinet.
My only sadness is that this sets a precedent for a president pardoning his son. And it’s almost as if that was the whole point of going after Hunter in the first place. Make Joe pardon his kid so that Orange can do the same.
But probs not for Eric. Maybe Don Jr. Def Ivanka. The others are whatevs
The thing about Biden's pardon is it suggests he is concerned there'll be retribution by the incoming admin. What he hasn't said explicitly, seems apparent with this action. Welcome to hell.
Agreed. Though I support the pardon, it just feels ominous. Biden sees the writing on the wall and can take action for his own, but the rest of the country will be calmly handed over for the slaughter.
I honestly burst into tears when I read that Joe pardoned Hunter, I was so happy. And Biden did it for all the right reasons, which he took the time to write & explain to the American people. Before Trump turned him into a liar, Lindsey Graham said, "Joe Biden is as good a man as God ever created".
"The justice department have politically gone after me and my family with prosecutions so I'll use the power of the pardon as President to overrule them" Donald Trump and Joe Biden
I keep hoping this is going to be a tougher 4 years for trump than it will be for the rest of us. Wishful thinking for sure, but it keeps me going. Tonight was good news.
It's a beautiful thing. It doesn't have to do anything for us personally. But it does give me warm fuzzy feelings I haven't felt since Nov 6th. I love a good fuck you to Donald and Patel.
Biden pardoned Hunter bc he knows they will eventually try to execute him in public. They will. Biden knows these guys lack conscience and also imagination. They are utterly predictable. Nothing they do can shock us if we simply think ahead bc they can only repeat history. Like rats in ruts.
And as usual humpty trumpty will knock him for it. But we all know that reality says trump will pardon so many to justify himself and his greed. Just a cyclic man. trump’s rhetoric will never end!
Next, he needs to commute all Federal Death sentences to life. Then, he needs to issue a blanket pardon for all those connected to or participating in any investigation or trial of Trump except for defendants, suspects, and defense counsel for all crimes, known and unknown.👍
Y’all are worse than the J6ers! Wanting to subvert the system before anything has even happened. (I have not been a supporter of the J6 insurrection at all but I’m beginning to wonder if what they’ve said about the justice system and the FBI isn’t true based on the responses to this thread.)
Sure. Except, when Jan 6ers do it, they're trying to avoid the penalties of their well-documented crimes during their pathetic & failed coup. What I'm doing is trying to prevent abuse of the Justice system by a rapist felon who swore vengeance on his enemies & the crackpot he wants leading the FBI.😉
Oh, you must not have been here the day a fascist who owns the Supreme Court and whose party has the majority in both houses of Congress and who has said if he is elected we will never have to vote again also nobody had to vote because he had enough votes was re-elected. That happened. 🇺🇸☠️
It is Trump who has subverted the system and will do it again. He has promised to do so. These requests are simply attempts to ameliorate abuse of the justice system.
trump pardoned his son in laws dad, not to mention Mike flynn, paul manafort, roger stone, none of these low lifes had any legitimate reason to receive a pardon.
I woke up to this news in my Co. Tipperary home in Ireland, and it made me smile from ear to ear😀.
He may have done some wrongdoing, I just don’t know as the volume on his life has been turned up to 15 the last 5 yrs. I really don’t care if he has as he is a lamb by comparison to the GOP. Good job
Yes, and for some time I thought it a good thing to show support for the system of justice , however this is a sacrifice no orther parent would except. Especially since the President would be sacrificing in vain now that Trump has won the presidency.
So, you didn't see the picture of the little girl, probably 5 years old max, dressed in a little white bra, panties, hair done, make up on...Hunter Biden was in the picture, nude, a towel covered his erection. He held the little girl's hand, leading her into a room. Was it fake?
Are you kidding? If he pardoned his son, he damn well better publishe the #EqualRightsAmendment. Half the country is going to lose 14th Amendmenr=t equal protection because 2 white men - Trump and Biden - have illegally blocked the ERA.Total BS! Join us. RSVP: https://us06web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_J1CStFhxTja1YeF8nOhOaQ#/registration
Fool yourself. You miss the point: of course Trump was always going to pardon the rioters! But Biden, by pardoning his son, has in one single act deserted the high ground and reduced his integrity to the gutter along with Trump.
Com'on bro... no one can get as low as tRump. If Hunter was not Joe Biden's son, they would not have pursued it in the first place. So it's only fair for Dad to protect his son
Shirley, you jest. He’s been saying he’s going to pardon the “hostages” for weeks now.
Furthermore, since when does rump need an “excuse”? He fabricates his own excuses and truths.
I don’t see this as good news. I see it as Biden telling us that any world where a democracy existed will no longer exist after January. There is no government protection from people who are in office for the sole purpose of retribution. It doesn’t only impact his son. The threat is very real.
Every position of power will be corrupt and anyone who doesn’t fall in line will be seen as an enemy of the United States. We don’t want to see what is happening because it’s too difficult to believe. It makes us feel like conspiracy theorists. Our brains are protecting us from the reality.
Biden is saying that he will give up the moral high ground democrats had and risk their own people rebelling against them in a time when we really need all the allies we can get. He’s risking that to tell us that things are going to be very dangerous in the near future.
After January, it is Trump, who will be in office to end democracy and conduct retribution. Over the years it was always Trump pardoning traitors, criminals and co-conspirators - Bannon, Stone, Kushner, Levandowski, D'Souza, Arpaio, etc. So take your anti-Biden concern trolling elsewhere.
Hoping his pardoning Hunter was the smallest wave he makes. He still has time! Let it rain Joe, let it rain. I won’t even put the umbrella up… and lord knows I already love jumping in the puddles.
Yes! And I was also very thirsty for Joe to make any kind of bold move. He should be outta fucks by now and I am more than ready to see him finish out his term accordingly.
Doesn't matter. Idiots are gonna assume Democrats are "just as bad" if they want to. They literally just did it this election. It's about time Democrats just start doing whatever without fretting over how it might be taken by mouth breathers.
This is only going to get better...I have been silenced for 5 yrs...going from Tesla Fan Boy/investor to disappointed environmentalist and cheated investor.
Elon I know you like I wrote the book!
I had honestly been thinking about this so much lately, worrying what the incoming administration would do, & hoping Pres Biden would make this choice. I'm so relieved he did. The incoming admin will be all about vindictiveness, corruption, lawlessness, & lack of humanity. He had to protect his son.
A pardon still requires a crime committed per the constitution. Wait. Ask the SC. He has immunity for any official act so I guess he can pardon whoever the fuck he wants to.
Problem with that is that pardoning requires a guilty verdict or admission of a crime. Since most Democrats aren't criminals, there's nothing to pardon.
This is my thought exactly. Not only don’t I know or care about hunter biden in particular, I see ZERO reason to believe that a “pardon” will prevent whatever horrors the project 2025ers have planned for him/others
They can try to ignore Biden's pardons, but sooner or later, their attempts will find their way to a judge, with defense attorneys arguing the cases. Even in front of judges appointed by 45, they have not seen a great deal of success - just total immunity for 45, thanks to the Rogue Six of SCOTUS.
In scum'p's eyes investigating him, or exposing truth about him is a crime, so yes, officially pardoning people for those things preventatively is a good idea.
You can pardonsomeone before they are convicted of anything.Some historical examples include President Ford pardoning President Nixon before he was formally convicted in the Watergate scandal.
Was looking for this, since people just don't know anything.
Especially since his pardon includes any and all crimes known or unknown for an 11 year period.
You can be pardoned for anything done that might come up- a blanket pardon. DT wanted to pardon himself before he left the White House & he hadn't been convicted yet. Call it preventable medicine and who cares who thinks it's a guilty admission. This is war.
Lawless tRump and his merry band of pardoned felons better not say S H I T! Hunter Biden is a private citizen. While tRump gave his entire D,E,I children and relatives jobs with paychecks and other fringe benefits. And more positions and pardons to come. We will see corruption like never before
Kash Patel had already stated that he was going to continue to pursue Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden has never held public office. It’s truly a witch hunt because of his last name.
His offenses have already garnered more legal attention & action than anyone of a different name. He was addicted at the time and has been sober for 5.5 years. Your logic seems so simple, but there are multiple mitigating factors. Not sure that most people could pick a “better” time for addiction.
Respectfully agree to disagree. His plea deal was nuked not bc of what he did, but who he is. The goal in all of this has been to cause him and his father harm. It’s been politically motivated persecution and gone beyond the point of law enforcement to weaponization.
Good grief. NO. Biden is smart enough to recognize the incoming admin is going to go for 'retribution' and go after everyone. Hunter was prosecuted the way he was because he is Biden's son. No one else would have been treated that way under the law. Come on.
Blue MAGa ready to attack. The 3 deadlier year for cops killing citizens happened under Biden. Losing Roe and Chevron under him. Supporting the racist border bill. Anti-BDS legislation on the platform. Supporting genocide. It will be worse under Trump but the train left the station already. EO!?!
If he was worried about the Trump admin drumming up new charges he could have pardoned his son for crimes committed excluding the ones he was already convicted for. He was to be sentenced before Trump's inauguration.
Putting the law aside
It smells like a Trump move to me because it does NOTHING for our country, while protecting his own family.. That's Trump's entire M.O.
Okay? Joe Biden can do what he feels is right and that's all well and good...
I just don't understand why we're celebrating it ???
Feels like when British people celebrate shit going on with the royal family like.. doesn't affect me why TF should I care?
Watch from Russian to Lev. You are woefully uninformed. Maga was harassing Hunter so that he would start using drugs again, and Joe would be heartbroken. The point was to eliminate Joe as a candidate.
Malarkey! … this was so right…if you can think deep enough- so many nuances…@ newsflash- Jimmy Carter pardoned his brother & George H.W. pardoned his son Neil -this is not new
Yep! Totally the same! Hunter misused campaign funds, cheated charities, stole state secrets, interfered with elections, beat police, raped women and children...
Wait, no, that was Trump and everyone he's pardoned.
Wouldn't it be nice if, you know, since he's on the way out he would take some actions to protect all our sons and daughters instead of just his own ??
I mean I get why he did it but I don't get why we're celebrating it... WE'RE all still FUCKED.....
For 4 years he could have expanded the supreme court, since they are the greatest existential threat to our freedoms right now.
I don't mind that he pardoned Hunter. That's fine? I don't care..
I just don't understand why we're clapping for it ????
"Yay our ineffective president saved his son" okay
Okay, so let's say he could have expanded the Supreme Court. Somehow. Who would confirm the judges? The biggest reason Dems couldn't get as much done was because we had two DINOs fucking things up in the Senate. You really think Manchin and Sinema would vote to confirm anyone after a ploy like that?
I didn't even have time to get into that. I was too pissed about the "bluh y he no stakk the Supreme court" argument like I cannot TELL you how tired I am of hearing that
this is probably unpopular opinion: Biden should commute sentences of the Non Violent J6rs. So the only ones Trump has left are violent criminals to pardon. We know he's gonna do it, make it as painful as possible for Trump to argue violent criminals should be pardoned.
I LOVE that he pardoned his son!
A. Hunter isn't a danger to anyone but himself.
B. MAGA will scream and whine about anything and everything Biden does anyway. Screw them.
Yes! I was just thinking the same thing. Finally, something good has happened & I'm so happy that it happened to Hunter. I hope he can now have some peace, privacy & can get to spend some quality time with his loving parents.
Taking whatever good we can find right now and appreciating it is the only way we can come out of the other side of the next four years without wanting to lay down and give up if blocking people stops being enjoyable.
I mistyped, but I meant the Biden administration, it had to do with a process for adding members to the Supreme court, but annoyingly I am unable to find the post I saw earlier today
Absolutely. Good news was my first thought. This was a political witch hunt aimed at the father. No one goes to jail for this stuff. No one has a plea bargain overturned for political reasons. Hunter would have died in jail.
Don't forget, General, he was the first one to bite the "protective" SS agents. 🤣 Personally, I trust dogs. Corruption had already been sewed in. I'm just saying. 🤷♀️
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Plus, it is only precedent if it goes through the courts and is ruled to be allowed. Otherwise, it's just some thing that happens.
I just don't like the GOP being handed an even semi-legitimate argument.
I’m for the rule of law no matter who it punishes. I’m against tax fraud, no matter who commits it.
If the sentencing was obscenely long, Biden could have pardoned him sentencing citing politicization .
People that commit tax fraud & gun crimes deserve jail time.
It was long overdue.
And guess what happens then, Sport!
But probs not for Eric. Maybe Don Jr. Def Ivanka. The others are whatevs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMYW8jFPHg
Yeah, I can relate to that 😆
He may have done some wrongdoing, I just don’t know as the volume on his life has been turned up to 15 the last 5 yrs. I really don’t care if he has as he is a lamb by comparison to the GOP. Good job
Love it! 😘#HunterBidenPardon
Furthermore, since when does rump need an “excuse”? He fabricates his own excuses and truths.
One more self centered
elitist tone deaf post
That’s all it will take
Allison
Seriously
Con—White powerful people pardoning their naughty children while black men rot in prison cells.
Elon I know you like I wrote the book!
Anyone Trump would target like Fauci?
I know that accepting a pardon is generally accepting guilt- but these are very different times and norms don’t apply anymore.
Thoughts?
And Jack Smith and the DOJ and every judge who ever ruled against Trump
A real vindictive asshole is getting ready to take power
Pardon EVERYONE
It's a weapon to prevent bullshit from the Bullshit Trump administration
They will probably ignore the pardons and prosecute him anyway, to be honest. They don't care about rules or laws or the Constitution
This is basically a big ol' FU to the GOP and SCOTUS and I'm cool with it.
There's no way to spin that pardons aren't an "official act" of the presidency as SCOTUS spoke of
Do you recall Gerald Ford's pardon of Nixon?
The general premise of a pardon implies guilt, but it’s not a requisite.
But these people have no respect for laws, regulations, norms, etc. - no reason to think they’ll respect a Presidential Pardon issued by Biden.
Our only hope is they fail due to their own incompetence.
Especially since his pardon includes any and all crimes known or unknown for an 11 year period.
It was balm for my soul.
I'm really going to miss President Biden.
Besides, Trump is worse. No more talk of a two state solution anymore, I'm afraid.
👏👏👏
Joe is protecting his son from a tyrannical sicko dictator sociopath without any remorse or conscience from being a political pawn
Hunter broke the law.
Dems are turning into the GOP now
FAFO. Guessing he should have picked his time period better
My post still stands.
You want to lay down with dogs, you should enjoy the flees.
I can understand why you're acting like a conservative now.
Good on ya!!
You might as well call yourself with the actions you align yourself with.
GOP is going to love welcoming you to the fold.
This should have been something he did in the final days. Not when he could be doing things that help innocent people.
Take action to protect hunter: ✅
Why tf are we celebrating this ??
This pardon only corrects an injustice that shouldn’t have ever happened.
He should have not committed a crime then pleaded guilty afterwards.
Simple concept
If he was worried about the Trump admin drumming up new charges he could have pardoned his son for crimes committed excluding the ones he was already convicted for. He was to be sentenced before Trump's inauguration.
Wow.
Really.
It smells like a Trump move to me because it does NOTHING for our country, while protecting his own family.. That's Trump's entire M.O.
I just don't understand why we're celebrating it ???
Feels like when British people celebrate shit going on with the royal family like.. doesn't affect me why TF should I care?
It amazes me how MSM has such little knowledge of history,,, or so lazy or corrupt to check facts.
Making excuse
Wait, no, that was Trump and everyone he's pardoned.
Not. The. Same. Not at all.
Yep. Trump's did all that.
I said their actions were the same. Maybe, and follow me here, you reply to what I posted and not the post you WANT to reply too...
I mean I get why he did it but I don't get why we're celebrating it... WE'RE all still FUCKED.....
Write a few executive actions that will immediately get tossed as soon as Trump ascends to the throne?
Dems lost everything. Nothing he can do now except get judges confirmed, and he's been doing that at a lightning speed.
I don't mind that he pardoned Hunter. That's fine? I don't care..
I just don't understand why we're clapping for it ????
"Yay our ineffective president saved his son" okay
Doesn’t mean we should make it easier
A. Hunter isn't a danger to anyone but himself.
B. MAGA will scream and whine about anything and everything Biden does anyway. Screw them.
I’d rather see some guardrails put in place to protect the country from the orange. That would change my day.
Rules are irrelevant to them - it’s why Dems are at a perpetual disadvantage.
That is all.
Addiction is not a crime...kicking a person when they are trying to overcome thier addiction should be a crime!