Agree. If voters for Palestine thought #45-2.0 was going to save them when he has a bro-romance with Benjamin Netanyahu & held up the May 2024 ceasefire & hostage return, they really weren't paying attention to President Biden's answers to Israel Prime Minister.
If you think he’s going to move dead bodies you are mistaken. That would cost time & money. He’ll do a few photo ops & then it’s bulldoze & build & then party on the graves of the dead.
Gaza is already levelled. Biden did not negotiate a ceasefire. The ceasefire is a scam brought on by Trump.
I'm not morally superior but you might be morally inferior.
The current conflict in Gaza started 487 days ago. A temporary ceasefire took effect 17 days ago. Trump took office 16 days ago. In what way is Trump responsible for the destruction already present across Gaza?
What we did to the original inhabitants of this nation we're going to do to the people of Gaza...manifest destiny 2025...( a crime against humanity )...
You get mad at her for shutting down people who were literally trying to silence her. She had literally just met with members of the Uncommitted movement.
She had literally just met with members of the Uncommitted movement that very day. Them “trying to speak” wasn’t calling for specific demands like a ceasefire, which she had supported atp, it was to tell her that “she can’t hide.” That wasn’t advocacy, that was heckling, and you and I both know it.
Kamala said she was going to continue Biden's Gaza policy
Biden's Gaza policy was killing every last Palestinian.
DNC refused to let a Palestinian speak at the convention.
They wheeled out Bill Clinton to Michigan to tell Arab voters and protestors how great Israel is and to stop being uppity.
Biden’s policy was not “killing every last Palestinian.” You can keep justifying your vote for Palestinian expulsion from Gaza but that doesn’t make it true.
Yep, as illustrated by biden quielty negotiating a ceasefire (while this person was probably mouthing off about the same Russian or chinese propoganda)
The genocide was happening under dems. Biden and Blinken repeatedly bypassed Congress to fast track weapons and money to Israel. Biden repeatedly set red lines that were all broken without any punishment meted toward Israel. The US had provided legal cover and vetoes for Israel at every opportunity.
Trump is now going to carry out ethnic cleansing of Gaza or Genocide and send American troops to do it! So you got what you're against.. and you voted for the Felon psychopath Own it!
Democrats sent militarized police to college campuses to brutalize peaceful student protests. Democrats censured Rashida Tlaib and removed Ilhan Omar from the HFAC for being against the genocide. Democrats have called "From the river to the sea" an anti-semitic slogan.
Come on, Bibi and his regime would have done nothing different, even if Biden and the Dems did everything you wanted. It was damned if you do, damned if you don't for Biden, a no win situation.
Bibi would have done things a lot differently with no bombs. Like we could have just cut all arms and money to them instead of giving them infinite bombs.
Also if Biden and the Democrats didn't commit a genocide there literally wouldn't have been protests? Like the point was them doing it was bad.
And yet Palestinians themselves pleaded with America to not elect Trump. But I guess a guy named Chad would understand the consequences better than, you know, actual Palestinians.
as for Ilhan Omar you should probably learn about her father, who actually was part of a Genocide against Somaliland, and her continued refusal to acknowledge there was a Somaliland Genocide
I looked into this and the only sources were from actual neo-nazi groups like the Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute who have a vested interest in harming her career.
It's clear you never understood the issues, Chad. Now Palestine is destined for more never ending war. Their only chance was President Biden. Take a look around, pal.
Their only chance was the guy who was literally killing them all? The guy that earned the nickname Genocide Joe? You are the Democrat version of a qanoner. Seek psychiatric help. you've completely lost reality.
I have taken a look around. A look at what Biden's done. And I see this
The Democrats have made their position on the Israel issue immensely clear for the past 2 years. You trying to shift blame onto the voters who were vociferously telling the Democrats what their stance on the issue was rather than the Democrats for telling their base to go fuck themselves is pathetic
Bottom line, Trump was massively more dangerous for the Palestinians AND the rest of the world. There's just no reasonable way to get around that fact.
Stop deflecting and gaslighting, just own your choices. It’s on you. Those of us who voted for Kamala knew it would make Palestinian lives safer. We could’ve made progress. Make LGBTQIA lives safer. Make Black people safer. Immigrants safer. Women safer. Non-Christians safer. But you do you.
Then enjoy what’s coming your way Hamasnik. If you cried and carried on that “no one cared” before- wait until you see the lack of fucks given now. You got played 🤡
Don't look over there at Leon taking over our institutions and fomenting a coup. Look over here at my notion for Gaza. (My administration can walk that back)
Yep. But let's not get too distracted. 🍊🤡💩 Is trying to change the 24 news cycle again. It's like the tariffs. Look over here! Don't look at what Leon is doing. Don't worry about what's going on at Justice, FBI, Treasury... He's crazy like a fox
It defies logic that anyone would look at the options of Harris, Trump, or no vote at all, and think Trump wouldn't be exponentially worse for Gaza than Harris.
I think Palestinian-Americans are under a lot of trauma and I will not blame them for voting decisions they made seeing their families being killed by billions in US supplied weapons for 14 months. Both parties are Zionist parties. I think those who do judge then don’t really care about Gaza.
Yes, AND I am not judging the people who lost people or even the people who were just too emotionally distraught to bring themselves to vote for Harris. I AM judging people who cynically voted for Stein or no one to "send a message".
I did and I’d do it again and it’s still Free Palestine till it’s backwards glad to see so many people are now so concerned about the future of Gaza now that Trump is doing THE SAME THING BIDEN AND HARRIS WERE DOING FOR 18 MONTHS
That’s very few people. I would judge Kamala saying her policy on Gaza wouldn’t change from Biden’s and Bill Clinton going to meet with Palestinian-Americans and saying their nieces and nephews (babies and children) deserved to die.
Who is “they”? We are against killing innocent people and civilians 10/7. We are also against apartheid and occupation that imprisons people on their own land and when they try to protest peacefully shoots them. (Just google human rights watch, amnesty international or Doctors Without Borders)
Few thought that. I loath Trump and the Right wing in every way.
The real reason Kamala lost is her campaign. It wasn’t a good campaign that spoke to working people in a way they could get excited and turn out for her. The uncommitted didn’t decide the election the people who stayed at home did.
The only mistake Kamala's campaign made was expecting American voters to be informed. The woman had a stellar record for helping working and impoverished ppl in congress. She was overqualified compared to the men who came before her and laid out an excellent plan for the future.
Those white men viewed black men as less than human, but gave black men the right to vote long before giving any women the right to vote.That tells us all we need to know about their view of women. Women couldn't even wear pants in congress until 1993!
Didn't they spend a large part of the campaign season questioning if she was even allowed to be black at all?
I voted for the most qualified candidate.
For the DNC this was one of the most important elections to win. They really needed to get it right. (Not perfection) just get a coalition of voters excited so they would turn out and vote.
There is no difference between “uncommitted” and staying home. It's all a vote for Trump. And Kamala's entire plan WAS for working people if you just took the time to learn about it. Seriously. Don’t embarrass yourself. Get informed.
Uncommitted was mostly to try to get Biden to stop selling weapons of mass destruction to Israel’s right wing gov. It was a primary strategy-it failed obviously. I did not see any report saying those who remained uncommitted cost Kamala the election? Could you show me, that link?
That’s the thing I most think about. There was too little time. And Trump had been campaigning and always was in the media (we now know they wanted him in office) for four years
Democrats need to self-reflect on why people voted for a felon and rapist, and why others stayed home. I absolutely blame the DNC for this loss. They have focus groups and should have run a better campaign. “vote joy” was not it.
At what point do voters get to be held responsible for their poor decisions? It was never abt messaging. Trump kept rumbling during his campaign and had no clear messaging, Harris articulated her vision well but somehow she’s still to be blamed for people preferring a rumbling orange turd.
You can blame voters but it isn’t productive. We are stuck with the voters we have. When we blame them it’s not really a democracy. We have to try to appeal to them. The more we cut funding to education, hamper a Free independent Press, the harder the challenge.
Trump suggested it could become the "Riviera of the Middle East" under U.S. ownership. Right. 4 out of the 6 Trump owned casinos went bankrupt. Wouldn’t be surprised if Trump thinks this could somehow end up being a tax write off for the national debt and reduce it based on personal experience.
While I understand those who did not vote at all, because they lost loved ones, this type of ahole encouraging people to vote for Trump is just so fucking infuriating.
I’m sure he has some sleazy real estate deal with Bibi Netanyahu in exchange for supporting the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people from Gaza. Trump is so predictable.
I think he made this crazy announcement to distract us from something bigger. Elon & his dweebs have been in the systems long enough to set something up that puts all our financial, personal and health related data at his disposal. Gaza is to distract us from his next move - and then it’s too late.
Harris said "combat zones" instead of "war zones" and idiots used it as an excuse to vote for Trump. (They were already going to vote for him anyway). Not to mention how stupid "she lied once" is compared to Trump who told THOUSANDS of lies during his 1st term and will tell thousands more this time.
Are maga’s okay with US spending so much money on foreign countries. I seem to recall them having a fit with sending billions to Ukraine. What happened to America first? Where’s the outrage?
Currently, because they have immediate need, over 50% of USAID goes to Ukraine. So, tell me again why it's Project 2025's first test case to dismantle?
At least he’ll try. Let’s see if he gets away with it. Sometimes the countries that are so angry with us because of our military, because of our government, ask your relatives who live in the United States why they vote for Republicans when they destroy your country 💯
Actually the people who sat at home and protest voted caused this. They can go ahead and take ownership of the continued slaughter in Palestine thanks to them. Selfish one issue voters can fuck all the way off.
Also, I think you misunderstood me: I am very angry at non-voters and protest voters. Which is why I was shocked by this reply, as I follow you and like what you have to say. I literally posted on Facebook on Election Night that “if you voted third party or didn’t vote, block me right now.”
In all politeness, I am a not a Democratic representative, and you know nothing about my life. I agree, I am also angry at Democratic leadership for attempting to play nice. But you cannot tell me that I have no right to be angry at people whose actions contributed to me losing my rights.
It is all Dems have. Coming to terms with the fact their party is Nazi-lite requires overcoming cognitive dissonance, and that is too hard. Easier to just point fingers.
That doesn’t even make sense. Half the party in Congress was for a ceasefire and arms embargo by Election Day. Ppl can be mad cuz Uncommitted’s leaders came out even after the election and didn’t own up to helping Trump win.
Despite Harris not being as vocally Pro-Palestinian as I wanted she did actually show differences with Biden even after Israel successfully defeated Dems in primaries for taking a Pro-Palestinian position.
You may have convinced yourself of this so you could justify your vote, but the fact remains she was supportive of genocide, and thus by your own actions in voting for her, so are you.
First of all, Ok. I’m Black and Black Americans have BEEN going through genocide in America. Which is why claiming genocide is why ppl helped Trump win (he left the Kurds to be ethnically cleansed last time he was in office and it’s on video) is stupid. Ppl just don’t want to admit they’re wrong.
We don't have to. The Democratic Party has always been supported by minority populations over whites because our policies are geared to helping the disenfranchised. So yes. You're protest not vote did this.
We’re all anti-genocide, even those of us that voted for Harris. Don’t act like those that protest voted or didn’t vote are the only ones. We just saw that if we didn’t vote this would happen. Harris also called for a cease fire and a two state solution since Oct 2024. But that wasn’t enough for you
Yep. Many of us did care, but we knew what was coming would be even worse. Not to mention that some of us feared what would happen to this country as well, not to mention its own vulnerable populations. Now we're seeing it.
- Braincooked GenZ dorks who still believe TikTok telling them Harris was personally responsible for genocide wasn’t just a simple low effort marketing campaign funded by Elon Musk
Look how your not able to say “women voters”, despite months of messaging running up to the election that “Women would save America by voting for Harris”.
Then when they didn’t you had to scramble and find someone else to blame, and you chose “white people” 🙄
What point are you trying to make here? Both white men and white women as demographic groups voted for Trump. Hence, white people are to blame. White men + white women = white people.
There’s enough blame to go around without shaming political advocacy within the Party. I do wish they had the facts cuz an after election interview shows they didn’t know shit about Harris’ position. Or her actions on the issue of Palestinian sovereignty.
Admittedly Layla Elabed, Bryarr Misner, Abdelhalim Abdelrahman, and Farah Khan, said some wild shit even after Harris lost tho. I don’t think ppl should listen to them until they are ready to unpack why even after the election they were peddling misinformation and making excuses for Trump votes.
Tbh, I’m not gonna worry about the delicate feelings of people whose only response to literally anything is some variation of “everyone but me is a genocider”
Trump rode to power on America First. He now itches to be a grand imperialist. The list of insane expansionist impulses grows by the week. Any combination of them being materialized with military backing will plunge the US into fracture--and to the glee of Putin and Xi. Purge the dangerous fools
I told the same to others and they said I was wrong. I said he’s going to put beachfront condos there and they said “Harris is worse!” Pretty sure Harris would not be doing this.
Huh? No. I warned people who were protest voting for Trump (or not voting) because of Gaza that Trump was worse than anything Harris would do and they told me I was wrong. Turns out, I was right.
Voting for Trump and not voting for Harris are 2 different things. Too bad you didn't tell Harris that she should just say she won't give more bombs to the genocidal state.
Of course anyone that said that Harris or Trump are going to continue the genocide were right. The corrupt us government, the corrupt political duopoly, was always going to continue what it started. You folks don't have any insight. What y'all did, both sides, was greenlight genocide. Congrats
Then they aren't leftists. Liberal and leftists are two different things. Leftists don't support the corrupt political duopoly. Liberals also say they don't support fascism and yet they clearly do.
He repeatedly has said Gaza was a great piece of land and someone should develop luxury condos on it?!!!!! Like where were they his whole campaign trail???
The GOP is so dumb. Don't they realize that the take over by Musk will result in a Dictator--and no Senate, house of representatives, judges, etc. He's putting all of u out of work. Stooges!
Many members of my Jewish extended family (registered Dems) voted for Trump, solely on the Gaza/Israel issue and blue down ballot. Lots of Jews like Ackman were huge Trump supporters. Is anyone blaming them for Trump or only the MI Palestinians and college protestors?
I literally made a joke about the luxury Trump condos he will build before the actual news hit. Apparently, my sense of humor cannot keep up with reality at this point.
You are about to find out also because Trump is going to destroy America. You stupid Democrats/Liberals could have just been decent humans and stood against genocide, but you chose to be crap humans, now your well deserved judgement is near also.
What will happen to me is nowhere near what will happen to POC, trans, gay, Palestinians, etc. Those of us who stood against any type of discrimination get to say "we told you." The stupid ones are those "marginalized" who voted for Trump. He'd deport you based on your name/color alone.
Just like a racist liberal. Always pretending they care about the "less fortunate"
Piss off. And don't respond because I won't read it I will just block you.
White supremacy has always eaten away at every opportunity in every sphere of my life. The white people hoping to appease their laziness in confronting it by blaming Trump's election on minorities are finding out in real time that shit is cannabalistic af.
So you're still more mad about how the Biden admin handled Gaza, than you are at the fact that trump wants to literally take Gaza and displace all Palestinians?
I remember the whole thrust of the Uncommitted movement being trying to convince the DNC that there was a major pool of voters being disaffected by US support of Israel's actions that they should take seriously
You have to wonder about how those US troops are going to feel about being sent to a "hell-hole"to enforce the ambitions of a property developer. Maybe that was the real reason behind Bibi reducing Gaza to a “demolition site…”
Nah. He told Bibi to do what you have to do. Finish it. We all understood what he meant. I mean, his son in law owns a lot of the land. They are ready to put in beach front property.
I’m just trying to give someone some kind of easy out lmao. I interpreted it as “Burn that place to the ground so I can build the Trump Holy Land Casino”
Same here. I called this whole thing about a year ago. Too bad all those well meaning protest voters refused to listen. They didn’t help Palestinians one tiny bit. It’s a truly sad situation.
It was up to Isreal to stop it. They would not because they wanted to help Trump get re-elected and destroy Gaza in the process. It was a dirty behind the scenes deal like Reagan pulled on Carter. Now Trump is rewarding his buddy.
This is three card Monty like tariffs to distract from Musk coup. We are watching one plane after another hit the towers and the media falls for the card trick yet again. Don't get me wrong it's all atrocious behavior and we better see articles of impeachment soon.
Oh no, they're still blaming everybody else. Literally, look at them explaining away why they were forced to do what they did and that they were right to do it. Did you vote for Trump, not vote or vote 3rd party? Yes? Then you did this. And no long-winded explanation in defense will change that.
When Karma & her wicked sister Mother Nature sit a Cat 5 on Mar a Lago for 2-3 days, followed by some F5 tornadoes to be on the safe side, you know'll what they think of Trump & his plans
No NOOA and no FEMA, he'll never know what hit him not done care about the rebuild
Yes, Jared was publicly salivating over Gaza as a site for luxury condos. This is no big surprise, and at this point, I just don’t care. I am more concerned about saving our own democracy.
All the terrible things, disasters (economic, political, environmental, human rights, constitutional), job losses, loss of democracy, and ultimately, loss of life we will endure because we didn't win that fucking election.
First - it boggles my mind that anyone thought Trump would be better here. He's the one that signaled Bibi and his far-right government that they had permission to be as aggressive towards the Palestinian people as they felt their own people would allow them to be.
Secondly - folks may observe that this kind of involvement is a quick way to get mired in another war. Even spark another Big War. As if that would strike sense to isolationist MAGA.
This overlooks the Christian Fascist death cult seeking such a war as it starts Armageddon and the return of Jesus.
Me too. But I don’t chide people for voting against the actual genociders and choosing the suspected genociders. I swear this is all on the Democrats for not holding an open primary. And as long as they keep avoiding that, we’ll keep having the same problem.
I would have preferred an open primary too, but after that ship had sailed, there was no good reason to risk Trump by not supporting Harris! I do chide people for being so thick headed and thin skinned.
My comment on the political situation has nothing to do with how I feel for the victims... Your attempt to connect the two is a dishonest attack. I'm not sure why. You have no idea how I feel about the ethics of the situation unless you have given me a chance to discuss. My critique of voters stands
The Palestinians I talked to said hey, he didn't kill us before, maybe he won't kill us again. And to his credit, so far, he's not suggesting killing any more Palestinians. Now he's talking of displacing them. But they knew it was a risk. But Biden/Harris was proven genocide.
No - we agree on that, and I wanred people. But you can't tell family members who lost someone under Biden to vote for him. You just can't. Who would DO that????
Gaza has already been levelled by Biden. Trump’s proposed illegal ethnic cleansing from the ruined land is just the next step. I don’t think we ever knew what Harris proposed instead. More bombing maybe? It was never gonna be good whoever won.
Im not advocating for Trump. I campaigned against conservatives in the UK and would have campaigned for Harris were I in the USA. But now I disagree with the racist blame heaped on those opposing genocide when it was a majority of white Americans who elected Trump. Move on.
Well he basically said it himself, but the more academic left was threaded badly. At any rate the Zionists who definitely voted Trump by far outnumbered Muslims, and academics.
In Canada, the CPC under Poilievre provided support for the early opinions expressed by the GOP and Trump re: Israel, discrediting Liberal PM Trudeau's unflinching support for the two-state solution. CPC are working on their dance moves now, adjusting the choreography for slightly different 'music'.
It really would've been something if libs gave this much of a shit when the US gave BILLIONS OF YOUR MONEY TO FUND THEIR GENOCIDE OVER 15 FUCKING MONTHS.
It really would’ve been something if you could’ve made your point without the misogyny but its ubiquity throughout left, right, and centre politics can be taken for granted at this point. But AG is not spineless, she’s public-facing, you adorable love cat, you.
Maybe Palestinians should stop training whole generations of terrorists. They’re not without blame. Palestinians started this round between the massacre and firing missiles into Israel daily. Until you also yell at the Iranians funding Palestinian terrorists, your attitude is one sided.
The screams of babies as buildings collapse in Gaza. Terrified parents carrying the remains of their children away in plastic carrier bags. These scenes come enabled by German-American tech billionaire Peter Thiel and his company, Palantir. https://www.mintpressnews.com/peter-thiel-gaza-ai-war-white-house/288372/
75 years of ongoing land theft, kidnapping, torture, rape, and murder, and still people come with the brazen racism to suggest Palestinians started this.
More blood libels. And only for the Jews. Starting pograms, just like your ancestors did. They were absolutely convinced they were correct as well. It's in your blood.
The sheer audacity of thinking you know what I care about. Regardless of what Biden did it doesn’t make this right. Are you part of the group they mentioned on Reddit that attacks anyone that brings up Gaza? Stop being a silly child. People like you are why they made a block feature.
I can’t believe how little foresight people have. A lot of us were screaming it from the roof tops that Trump would turn Gaza into a pile of rubble so his son in law could build resorts on that land but noooooo, they wanted to posture as righteous. Being righteous means using your brain!!!
Biden didn’t bomb Gaza, Netenfuhrer did and has been doing it for years under both Dems and Repubs in office, Bill Clinton once said that Netenfuhrer can’t be reasoned with, he wants to purge Palestinians. The only country that took action was South Africa while US and UK stood with Netenfuhrer
We told them so. And told them so and told them so. Somehow I don't think any of them have a chance of emigrating to this country...if they have survived.😢
And I mean Jared Kushner's face was there before the election on the article about him calling it prime real estate. Aside from all of us that tried to tell them, Jared Kushner made it plain what Trump's plans were. So did huge swaths of Zionist Republican Evangelicals. I mean duh. Just fucking duh.
A Congressman just said that a US funded prison in Syria nearly let thousands of ISIS terrorists walk free bc the funding/pay for that prison was frozen by Trump. Palestine is 267 miles from Syria. He wants to occupy Palestine with our troops while he’s letting terrorists next door run free?
Yes they did, but creating the “Riviera” of the Middle East was probably not their end game. Stopping Hamas and releasing both American and Israeli hostages appeared to be their goal 🤷♀️
The IDF didn’t prepare for 7 Oct despite warnings from Egypt & THEIR OWN border observers, delayed responding to the actual attack & then slaughtered hundreds of THEIR OWN PEOPLE. The IDF killed more hostages than they rescued.
He quite literally talked about this on a podcast before the election. And it's infuriating how many people still thought he was the better choice for handling the situation over there than Harris.
That was the plan they hatched up. Netanyahu would destroy it, ignoring Biden and making Biden look ineffective, and Trump would then take it over to rebuild it into a luxury resort. It was a dirty deal.
I'd rather invest in tar and feathers....send the same message but cut out the middle man.
The Dems aren't doing much to earn a fatter warchest...they're not fighting worth shit.
So he wants to decimate the Gaza Strip. This is a land about the size of NewJersey or just under 3x West Palm Beach… Gaza might not have the snobby homes of Palm Beach & Jersey yet PB is beach front I wonder how the PB snobs would like their city wasted, same with Jersey.
I was scolded on the other platform for saying Trump would be worse than Biden for the Palestinians. The consensus was that Biden is so bad, Trump couldn’t be worse.
My guess is because I block them too, they are whining a lot. When a painter picks up a paintbrush you can bet it will resemble the sketch on the canvas. That just popped into my head, pretty good if I may say so. 😊
Look, if any of them would be civil and actually engage with an eye to finding common agreement, I’d be down. But they’re not. They’re almost all looking for just another sick burn to post a screen shot on their timeline and her high fives for owning the libs.
And the few times I have met someone on that side who engaged with sincerity and civility, we came away friends and agreed on things.
But that’s because they wanted to find that common ground. These guys don’t want that. They just want to shitpost. They don’t change. I don’t change. Time wasted.
The history of the Middle East has never been linear….EVER!!! Policy cannot be defined in 220 characters where most social media posts live. It has always dance with the devil you know…
what kind of a poll could possibly yield such a conclusion?
if you ask a bunch of people "so did you refuse to vote for harris because of gaza or because you're racist?" like what do you think they're going to say
I think you'd be unsurprised to know that Pete Hegseth & Trump have just agreed to give Israel those 2000 lb. city flattening bombs that Biden refused to give them. Basically, saying, "if you thought Biden helped commit genocide, HOLD MY BEER!"
Ahhh. In that aspect, you are correct. Although we're unsure how much input she had into that decision. I, like you, it seems, would've liked Biden to stop sending Bibi weapons. I've never trusted Netanyahu. He's just a Jewish Trump, staying in power to stay out of prison.
BEFORE WE GO TO WAR, OR WE ARE TARGETED AND KILLED FOR TRUMP'S STUPIDITY AND UNFEELING GESTURE TO MAKE MONEY FROM THE PEOPLE OF THE GAZA STRIP, CONGRESS NEEDS TO INVOKE THE 25TH AMENDMENT NOW!
I told @mehdirhasan.bsky.social
the same thing! Him and Talib who boycotted Biden due to his stance with Israel. Was Biden right? NO. But Trump is the devil incarnate! Nice choice Mehdi!
They (we) are out there, still protesting weekly. We are joined by immigrants rights groups the ACLU, trans rights groups. We’re all the same people. We are against bigotry in all forms.
The media rarely covers protest except when they want to turn libs against us.
Yeah, I can remember the amount of insults and attacks I had to put up with on social media for wanting to stop Trump's re-election from people whose sole concern above all else was "saving Gaza" supposedly.
Not hearing much from those folks these days I notice. Weird, huh?
Furthermore, if Harris had to lose, why wouldn't she or you rather have her lose with a shred of morality?
I'm a black woman. 92% er. What really sucks is knowing that you are just the other side of the MAGA coin. You think the "attacks" on social media are the equivalent of this. No. Soul.
I'm one. And the problem I have with you is that you give zero fucks about that genocide now just like you did then. You just thought that if you said anything about Gaza, you would have hurt Biden since it was his pet project. Guess what. Genocide isn't better or worse based on who does it.
I wanted to save Gaza. I wanted Netanyahu to face the ultimate penalty for his crimes. But I knew that voting for Trump or not voting was only going to reward Netanyahu. And Trump. And musk. And all the Zionists. I chose not to reward those evil doers and voted against them.
They're the definition of idiots. "I don't like every single thing that this administration does so instead I'm going to vote in a Nazi who will do absolutely nothing I like!"
So you’re not opposed to genocide if it’s committed by Democrats but you are if it’s committed by a Republican? Heres the difference between people with & people without morals; those of us with morals are opposed to any organization actively participating in genocide. Your indignation is selective.
They voted for a monster and they know it. They have to find ways to live with what they did to themselves and the world. Same if they sat it out and failed to vote at all.
How do you know Biden had a ton of leverage and that he was absolutely not negotiating for peace? If you are going to make sweeping generalizations such as this, I, for one, would be interested in the source of this assertion.
Maybe I don’t understand the concept of “leverage,” but the nearly $18B we sent Netanyahu since the conflict started could have been used? As leverage? Just thinking out loud?
That was as Biden was leaving office, 15 months after the slaughter began. Netanyahu was either yielding to Trump’s pressure or (more likely) announcing a deal he’d already made with Trump. No credit to Biden either way
That's total BS. Biden was still the head of the country, and a ceasefire seems rather against Trump's casino and resort solution. Not to mention Netanyahu hated, and abhorred the idea of a ceasefire. If the ceasefire is because of Trump it is only so they have time to draw up the casino plans.
No he wasn't. All he was doing was putting around the WH not knowing where he was 80% of time. His self serving aides just carted him back out of the Oval office if he happened to wonder in.
it's more like the molotov salesmen asking that the molotov's stop being used on certain groups of people nicely. Ik Biden wasn't great and has issues, but fuck at least he pretended to care. The guy we have now doesn't even pretend. Yes I want someone who actually cares in the future.
Yeah, at least Biden ignored United States and international law to kill hundreds of thousands of people. Liberals are repulsive. Just as repulsive as Maga.
How'd that ceasefire with Lebanon go, since we're talking about Biden's "peace"?
Because last I checked, the only thing it accomplished was disarming Hezbollah while Israel continued murdering Lebanese civilians with arms Biden continued to send to it.
Big tech ENABLES Trump. Those still on X/Twitter and Threads/Facebook, your voice is no longer being heard. Both platforms have bent the knee to Trump; close those accounts now. And for a real impact we MUST also BOYCOTT Amazon, Apple and Google because big tech is officially a global threat.
Not surprised, this is Project 2025 fundamentalist Christians behind this shit. After taking control, they will level the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount. It's part of their plan to try and make Armageddon & the Rapture come about. FUN FACT! The Rapture is a uniquely American Christian belief.
Nope. You will not blame people who didn't want to vote for genocide on this one! Biden PAID for this genocide. While we were screaming and protesting to make it stop. Don't you dare blame people who chose to not be a willing participant in genocide. No.
Yep, We are blaming you. You made your stance on this one issue overshadow all issues (and there are many) here at home, so take responsibility, and own your part in unhoming Palestinians permanently and for the huge shitaucracy you put all of us in this country in. Sincerely, Thank You!
This is emblematic of why I stopped trying to engage with this on a serious level. No matter how you try, the immediate reply will always be dripping with scorn and anger. No one cares about the substance, they’re all looking for a fight to feel good about later.
With you in solidarity. The racist fuckery in these arguments-"If only those Arabs and the people who loved them had shut the fuck up about that genocide then fascism wouldn't have overtaken America."
I do dare and yes I will. Ignorant, unorganized leadership of a half-assed movement that obviously lacked foresight and did a disservice to the Palestinian people and fucked us all in the process. Well done. Enjoy the next 4 years. Your righteous indignation should carry you through.
You see, you're wrong about that. I will never stop blaming people who didn't vote for Kamala Harris. Biden was not on the ticket so I don't know why you're talking about him.
There was virtually no calculus prior to the election which suggested Trump would have been better for Gaza than ANY democratic candidate. Trump is both worse for Gaza, America and global allies - people can criticize the Dems but they were still the better stable choice regardless.
In taking a stand to support Gaza by either not voting or counter voting has and will lead to greater harm not only to Gaza but vulnerable parts of the world including Africa and Asia. The global community needs to work to fill the gap left by USAID.
I voted for Biden. I voted for Harris. What made me sick is except for the student protests hardly anyone said shit about that genocide. In fact they wanted to censor it in case it made Biden look bad. So ask yourself that question. You said nothing then. You say nothing now. Is this better?
Mass ethnic cleansing and the appropriation of their land, all to enrich himself and reward Netanyahu. I was unhappy with Biden’s Gaza policy but I wasn’t willing to sell the country to Trump and let him burn the Constitution because of it. I think that’s called biting your nose to spite your face.
5/ But we all have sense enough to vote for someone looking for solutions versus someone who DGAF about the lives of the Palestinians. We all know the political realities of being between a rock and a hard place. That's why normal presidents age horribly in office.
Except the current occupant who only aged outside of office because he was being pursued by Johnny Law for 4 years. Now he’s back and refreshed and ready to clap America’s cheeks.
4/ knowing they were lost, and praying Ukraine would get enough support from Europe to hang on. My next tears were for immigrants here and LGBTQ. But unless someone stops Bibi and Trump, the Palestinians are lost.
My inlaws are mostly Jewish. I follow a Jewish Rabbi. None of us are pro Bibi.
3/ The genocide has been ongoing for years. Suddenly, when your choice is someone not perfect trying their best versus someone who won't lose a minute saddened by a dead child, it's an existential crisis and one cannot vote for the Democrat. Bull shit. I cried when Trump won. For Palestinians,
3/ people in the US pissed. I've been pissed for years now over our funding Israel's military while they abuse Palestinians, AND can afford universal healthcare. Including abortions paid by the state. But I knew that if Trump were elected, the Palestinians would be worth 0 in his eyes.
2/ Bibi quite colorfully in private. However, note what happened when Joe did finally tighten the screws- Bibi went after a different country opening another front and coming close to igniting the whole region. If he'd abandoned Israel over Palestinians, there would have been the same or more
You have an ally with whom you have agreements. You as president do not have huge majorities in Congress. You spend most of a year trying to get a cease fire, hostages released, and humanitarian aid to the Palestinians. You cannot unilaterally end all aid to Isreal, though reports say Joe cussed 1/
People all around the world watched as you didn’t use the power you had, the power of your vote, to protect your democracy and your country. We can’t do anything about that - you could. Nothing you could do would stop Israel’s war with Palestine. You wasted your actual power to make a statement.
I meant: People who didn’t vote didn’t use the power of their vote. USA citizens were never going to change Israel’s action with their vote in their own country’s election. What did you mean?
Yeah. We could have. Because Americans pay for everything around the globe. Or hadn't you noticed? That's why there has been outrage and protesting of our funding of Israel. Dems liked to fund genocide too much. And so they lost votes. They were told they were going to lose votes.
The GOP are big supporters of Israel and have never been pro-Palestine. Why would less Democrat votes help someone in Gaza?
US citizens who sat on their hands in this election because of ‘Gaza’ helped the rise to power of someone who wants to erase Gaza and he’s attacking your own country too.
You say not to blame people who didn’t want to vote and I understand that to mean; you wish to defend the people who did not vote. Did you mean something else?
The irony that they are on that spectrum of white supremacy cannibalizing our democracy but refuse to see it.
What kind of person first tells people facing atrocities the likes of which have never been witnessed to shut up about it for political expediency, then tells them they deserve worse?
Which genocide are you referring to? My understanding is if a group of terrorists kill every person including killing babies in ovens then that is genocide. Retribution is something else. My rule of thumb is kill 1000 perpetrators for every person they kill.
When genocide is on the table, sitting out is never an option.
You are blessed to have been raised in an era that did not have the threat of war hanging over *your* head. Listen to those who did. We warned you what would happen because we have a basis for comparison.
Are you fucking kidding me? My generation fought in Afghanistan and Iraq. For my entire life. And my entire queer family is on the chopping block, with Dems doing fuck all about anything. For decades. So fuck off.
On the table? It's been going on for over a year. There was no difference in foreign policy between Biden/Harris/Trump. Imagine if there had been, signaling an end to fascism.
America needs to hear this. Stop the pearl clutching and feigned outrage. That is a failed strategy of the DNC. Hoping people would vote FOR Democrats, while offering no real agenda, just to vote AGAINST Trump was pompous, arrogant, and asinine. The fight is in the streets, not a courtroom.
You’re creating a fantasy. Biden and Harris ran on tons of policies. You only payed attention to Trump. Also this argument is dumb and steeped in privilege. Democrats weren’t wrong to point out Trump’s plans. That’s politics & he’s destabilizing the world just like he promised!
Name those policies, because none of them did anything to get this country out of the sewer. Trump ran on the economy, inflation, and immigration. The DNC offered nothing on those topics. That is a fact. I'm not the enemy here. People's unwillingness to find fault with their own side is the enemy.
You’re wrong, she ran on all of that and had policies for all of it. Trump didn’t run on any of that. His rallies were just him being racist, he repeatedly promoted using tariffs which screwed us last time, and he admitted he had no plans. Trump is a shit candidate unless you’re a racist.
That’s what he ran on. He held rallies at the sites of hate crimes. Arguing policy is why he won is stupid and ignores that bigotry is only reason he could even run again in the first place!
And look how well Trump's campaign worked. He ran on lies, misinformation, fear intimidation, hatred, racism, and bigotry, and he won. The DNC had absolutely nothing to counter that. Democrats were worried about optics instead of throwing Trump in prison, where he belongs. Look at the resulting mess
Not one of us knows the details of any of those. Just simple catchphrase words. Sound bites. Trump blamed the entire inflation episode squarely on Democrats even though it was a result of his mishandling of covid. The DNC did nothing to stress that point. They brought a knife to a gunfight.
I don’t disagree about bringing a knife to a gunfight. From the other Griffin. But I do think Biden made improvements. I’m not intending to give you sound bites. Those are actual bills that got passed.
We had every opportunity to put Trump in prison for his criminal acts after he lost the 2020 election. Instead Biden thought he could extend an olive branch to a group of people who had no desire of reconciliation. Merrick Garland was too weak to take on Trump and he failed to enforce the law.
What the hexx are you talking about ‘no agenda’. Harris had many policies for the aver person as well as foreign policy. Ppl just didn’t like a woman of Indian & jamaican heritage.
I felt at the time and still do that the whole sit it out or vote Trump over Palestine was the dumbest psy-op ever but apparently some people actually are that dumb and bought it.
You people are just as unempathetic and conspiratorial as the Maga people are. Is it really so hard to imagine why someone would see the "good guys" complicit in atrocities and as a result be much less motivated to get vote for anyone? You forget that only like 60% of americans vote to begin with.
You think Biden or Harris would be advocating resolving the Palestine issue by forcibly removing all Palestinians to some other place. Trump fucking told you before the election. Bathe in their blood you are getting what you really want. Extermination so you can shed crocodile tears.
Sorry but no. We saw the writing on the wall. We knew what would happen. It was obvious. You were playing checkers when you should have been playing chess. Enjoy the next several years. This is what you chose.
They danced this same tune in 2016. Then turned around and blamed Biden for the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe...
Just like Velveeta Voldemort, never will take responsibility for their actions...
they'll be back in 2028, blaming Newsom for the LA fire....
Just like they will blame Harris when the SCrOTUS overturns marriage equality.
The reality is that they want the Dems out of the way because they think that the dems are the only thing preventing the DSA from assuming its rightful place atop American politics.
Okay so what's the takeaway here? What should democrats do if the want to win the next election? Do you think it would help them if they sent Israel more bombs?
The guy who said he would send them more bombs won because the people who claim to support Palestine helped elect him. Best I can tell the pro-Israel and US pro-Palestine people got their desired result. More deaths.
The very notion of an American occupation in Gaza is not just outrageous—it’s an affront to humanity. The horrifying proposal to displace over 2 million Palestinians from the land where their families have lived for thousands of years is a crime against history…
I think the words I used were, “Even if you don’t like the way President Biden has dealt with Israel and Gaza, I guarantee you Donald Trump will burn Gaza to the ground.” Nothing.
and burn America to the ground in the process. I love these people in this thread saying it's already leveled or the Dems did it already or some such shit, like that's a good reason to vote for Trump and destroy our country.
Notice how all protests stopped AFTER the election? Where are all the campus screamers? It was all performance strategy incited by nefarious actors. Putin won.
Somehow, I don't think this will land well across the Middle East, and I don't think that Prince Bonesaw holds sway over that many pissed off Arabs. We should also be on high alert for retaliation from radical groups, but Trump won't be concerned with the fallout, he never thinks that far ahead
Agreed but when Harris picked a very pro Israel VP and didn't let pro Palestinians speak in events she sent a clear message. Because the Democratic party refuses to stop relying on AIPAC money. I think the election was going to be rigged either way. But message is important
Move on from an ethnic cleansing?! Are you shitting me? How cruel do you have to be to say something like that. You know people who live in the United States have families and friends that live over there, right? Not to mention these people deserve to live a dignified and safe existence. How selfish
I agree it's not going to happen, but it needs to be mentioned. What a president says matters, particularly to other leaders around the world. Same with invading Greenland, etc.We shouldn't spend time on it or turn away from what's happening here with Musk. It's the "flood the zone" theory by Bannon
He's going to use the Office of the President and possibly the military to take over land with Israel in order to build a resort or "develop" it, that he will most likely profit from.
I can see it now, "Gaza Beachside Hotel" a Trump property. It'll be a great addition to Greenland Golf Resort and Panama Canal Cruises. Who woulda thunk it? Monetizing the Presidency? Oh wait.
I literally told some younger friends of friends who said stupid shit that Trump would level it and Kuschner and his other developer friends would create beachfront property to sell to oligarchs. And they told me I should look at “What Genocide Joe/Kamala” have done as if I didn’t actually know. 😣
Protesters only interrupted Harris' rallies because they knew that she was listening. They all knew where Trump stood. Harris did listen and engaged. There was only so much she could do in her situation.
That's what I told them. But I also tried to explain about the history of conflict in the middle east and why Israel is such a well protected ally of the US. They chose the ppl of Gaza over the ppl of America and their choice screwed Palestinians and Americans. Well played, kids.
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Aren't you just so proud of what you did?
Trump said the U.S. will level Palestine.
Grow the fuck up.
Your smug attitude is ridiculous and self-defeating.
Biden negotiated a ceasefire.
Kamala Harris condemned Netanyahu.
You were too focused on pretending to be morally superior.
I'm not morally superior but you might be morally inferior.
Bruh, you are fucking dumb.
Own your decision and take your medicine.
Why don’t you just take accountability for your part in trumps election?
And dangerous.
Republicans: SHES LYING!!!
Trump saying he will level Gaza
Republicans: oh, he just lying! He won't actually do that! Did you hear about the dogs getting eaten?
To voters.
It was a stupid thing to say to voters. She was speaking then. Voters spoke on Election Day.
How did this strategy fail?
She was running on “joy” but hey it’s not as bad as Trump.
Biden's Gaza policy was killing every last Palestinian.
DNC refused to let a Palestinian speak at the convention.
They wheeled out Bill Clinton to Michigan to tell Arab voters and protestors how great Israel is and to stop being uppity.
Also if Biden and the Democrats didn't commit a genocide there literally wouldn't have been protests? Like the point was them doing it was bad.
And yet here he is, still bitching and moaning, and wanting praise
I have taken a look around. A look at what Biden's done. And I see this
For a cool million you can get in on the Ground level in the New Gaza.
If you are unsure what these are, do a quick search. I’d suggest they are just another means of the rich laundering money.
Well we can start with you.
The real reason Kamala lost is her campaign. It wasn’t a good campaign that spoke to working people in a way they could get excited and turn out for her. The uncommitted didn’t decide the election the people who stayed at home did.
I voted for the most qualified candidate.
AND it really didn’t matter did it? Criticizing her and allowing Trump to win is on people like you!
https://www.propublica.org/article/biden-blinken-state-department-israel-gaza-human-rights-horrors
https://bsky.app/profile/pplscitycouncil.bsky.social/post/3lhh4x5w3x22t
52nd State Greenland
53rd State Panama
54th State Mexico
55th State Gaza
56th State UK
57th State EU
It's like he rang the dinner bell for terrorists recruitment.
Trump is committing America to the ethnic cleansing of Gaza, and the building of Settlements in Gaza for Israelis.
More than one person -or even more than one group of people- can share in blame for something.
Imagine that.
Blaming white voters instead of White Supremacists (including BIPOC who didn’t vote or who voted for GOP) is a way to foster dissension.
What’s your agenda?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna184849
Is that why you mass deport more than Republicans, militarize the police, wage endless wars, and are complicit in a GENOCIDE?!
- Braincooked GenZ dorks who still believe TikTok telling them Harris was personally responsible for genocide wasn’t just a simple low effort marketing campaign funded by Elon Musk
Then when they didn’t you had to scramble and find someone else to blame, and you chose “white people” 🙄
We knew it!
So where are the uncommitted and third party voters now?
Oh yes, they are all MAGA clowns in tarnished red
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna184849
Now they're mad that no one wants to hear their complaints.
Piss off. And don't respond because I won't read it I will just block you.
And yet here they are. Leaning into it.
Bye bye.
FAFO, bitches.
trump and netanyahu would build over the bodies of the families that once called the region home.
They are not men, they are animals
No NOOA and no FEMA, he'll never know what hit him not done care about the rebuild
All the terrible things, disasters (economic, political, environmental, human rights, constitutional), job losses, loss of democracy, and ultimately, loss of life we will endure because we didn't win that fucking election.
This overlooks the Christian Fascist death cult seeking such a war as it starts Armageddon and the return of Jesus.
Until the Democrats own up to their role in genocide, they'll never be in power again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmT2mso9gUc
Victim-blame more, spineless bitch.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/peter-thiel-gaza-ai-war-white-house/288372/
Not a single Jewish settlement was on Arab land, not a single Arab was displaced prior to the genocidal multi-nation Arab invasion of Israel in 1948.
Israel has never started a war or broken a ceasefire. Facts.
He and Kushner have been saying they want it for real estate for years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/19/jared-kushner-gaza-waterfront-property-israel-negev
Yep …… Biden & Harris!!!
The IDF didn’t prepare for 7 Oct despite warnings from Egypt & THEIR OWN border observers, delayed responding to the actual attack & then slaughtered hundreds of THEIR OWN PEOPLE. The IDF killed more hostages than they rescued.
They were never an IDF priority!
But the IDF WAS successful at slaughtering tens of thousands of Palestinian women & children and flattening Gaza.
Voters must fund their opponents with a national organization #target18 to stop the illegal behavior.
The Dems aren't doing much to earn a fatter warchest...they're not fighting worth shit.
I bet if they tried, we’d agree 98%
But that’s because they wanted to find that common ground. These guys don’t want that. They just want to shitpost. They don’t change. I don’t change. Time wasted.
if you ask a bunch of people "so did you refuse to vote for harris because of gaza or because you're racist?" like what do you think they're going to say
barely any pretense of concern
Too many can’t handle it.
Especially bc she is so well qualified.
And now we’re stuck with the criminal doing unbelievable crimes while he destroys the federal government.
the same thing! Him and Talib who boycotted Biden due to his stance with Israel. Was Biden right? NO. But Trump is the devil incarnate! Nice choice Mehdi!
The media rarely covers protest except when they want to turn libs against us.
Not hearing much from those folks these days I notice. Weird, huh?
I'm a black woman. 92% er. What really sucks is knowing that you are just the other side of the MAGA coin. You think the "attacks" on social media are the equivalent of this. No. Soul.
It's hard to negotiate peace when you're actively funding the war effort.
Him saying that he would block arms if the israelis attacked rafah, and then not doing it was.
Other thing that wasn't a ruse? His Secretary of State lying to Congress about the aid situation so weapons couild keep flowing.
UN peacekeepers (blue helmets) cannot be deployed without a UNSC resolution, for example.
Trump doesn’t care, Biden didn’t care, Kamala didn’t care, democrats don’t care, republicans don’t care.
Because last I checked, the only thing it accomplished was disarming Hezbollah while Israel continued murdering Lebanese civilians with arms Biden continued to send to it.
ok? Odd the trump family had been talking about this years ago
Can you read?
Frump hotel beach front property!
They just kept hating VP Harris.
I believe Jared even has some resort plans fleshed out and ready to go for a while now !
And there are alot of them.
However, the best way to have stopped what's happening was to have kept it from happening in the first place.
This is so much worse.
The sheer stupidity of it is astonishing.
Why yes, I am compassionate.
Also, you're going to be a participant in genocide now. Sorry 🤷♂️
Own your actions.
Biden is the one to blame for everything.
I mean, look how he’s making Trump threaten to take over Gaza, send troops to Greenland & Panama, roll back civil protections.
Isn’t it nice when YOU don’t have to take responsibility?
Because, as forewarned, it is worse now for Palestinians.
My inlaws are mostly Jewish. I follow a Jewish Rabbi. None of us are pro Bibi.
US citizens who sat on their hands in this election because of ‘Gaza’ helped the rise to power of someone who wants to erase Gaza and he’s attacking your own country too.
How many ways can it be said?
What kind of person first tells people facing atrocities the likes of which have never been witnessed to shut up about it for political expediency, then tells them they deserve worse?
You are blessed to have been raised in an era that did not have the threat of war hanging over *your* head. Listen to those who did. We warned you what would happen because we have a basis for comparison.
Inflation reduction act fall into those categories I think, and we did have a border bill that the felon tanked.
You’re high.
Communicated very well, too.
If you somehow missed that,
You're obviously missing a lot.
Btw, Elon stole the election, so ...
Voting Trump or sitting to allow him to win was affirmative support of Netanyahu and violence.
Just like Velveeta Voldemort, never will take responsibility for their actions...
they'll be back in 2028, blaming Newsom for the LA fire....
The reality is that they want the Dems out of the way because they think that the dems are the only thing preventing the DSA from assuming its rightful place atop American politics.
Don? If you’ve sent all the people who live there to Jordan and Egypt?
I'm assuming we'll start seeing all the Genocide Don protesters real soon, right? 🤬
http://www.xinhuanet.com//english/photo/2017-03/31/c_136172256_3.htm
“America First” quickly turned into Pax Americana within just a couple of weeks.
It's a distraction
His demise can't come soon enough.