Who makes a mistake like this and says theyre a fan?
Mind you i can nearly qoute the shit as i watch it. (My husband had to stop me from doing it to the entirety of phantom menace cause yes that script is in my head forever) but still how do they think boba didnt catch him when hes standing rightthr
An entire civilization was built from this guys mere presence, apparently.
I know he didnt get to do alot but the dude beat our heros without firing a shot just cause vader told him he couldnt vaporize them.
Without boba luke still has both hands! Does anyone pay attention?
His restraint was an asset cause as cool as his dad is in lore he hardly had the same presence of boba, mostly cause he lost twice and then dies on screen but also cause the armor does all the work there; to the point where most people know the actor as the clones. Like cody.
I garuntee you you cant badass your way out of your jet pack being shot down either.(jangos gets messed up before he died too,mmm poetry) Besides hes a bounty hunter ,george wasnt gonna make a villian death dignified. He never does.
Maul-cut in half, jango+dooku decapitated,palps also tossed in hole
They argued with me and then blocked me. Like ok these are starwars posts. And only a fake fan runs away from the rite of interfan disagreements.
Its a sacred practice from yonder galaxies.And Carrie fisher is there but dont worry well pretend chewy died and take it back to suckout all emotion.
Boba Fett not only figured out what Han was up to, which no one else did. He also likely was the one who figured out that Han was heading to Bespin and suggested the Empire shake down Lando first.
You want to hear a real crazy fact? Boba Fett at one point was going to be Anakin's brother(George nixed it for being "too hokey"). Which gives the "no disintegrations" line real scolding little bro energy.
Vader and Boba clearly, very obviously, dated in the past, but that whole thing about Anakin's master/brother figure having killed Boba's dad really soured the relationship, so they're now belligerent exes.
That reminds me, apparently at one point Mark Hamill pitched to George Lucas that Boba Fett was Luke's mom using a voice modulator. I am not making this up.
This group of diverse, cool-looking bounty hunters is here to illustrate the threat that comes with the bounty on Han Solo, and to further prop up Boba Fett, the guy who actually catches him at the end.
The Knights of Ren are there to sell toys, maybe set up some spinoffs, and die.
I think you're missing my point, which is that the Knights contribute nothing to the plot or setting, and are clearly there because someone thought they looked kind of cool and thought nothing further of it.
They're meant to be directly tied to a main character, and jack shit nothing comes of it.
All the people that complain about the new trilogy stuff don't realize it is just the same as the old, they are just old and grumpy and hate fun so much they don't recognize it
If you think the KoR, who shated the antagonists name and were part of loaded flashbacks, are important as hired guns of which one actually tracks down the fugitive protagonists, I cant help you.
thats good that theyre cool in supplemental media but it doesnt make their lacklustre portrayal in the movies any less bad. supplemental material shouldnt be used as a crutch for bad writing like that
i am sorry you think you have to like dogshit things to be fun. the knights of ren are an all-time storytelling dud. absolute fucking waste. the group of bounty hunters was just a moment to show cool designs, and then boba fett did stuff. knights didn’t do shit except die. comics don’t really count
None of these were specifically set up as something great and a huge threat. They always were bounty hunters for just one film. Boba actually did stuff. Stop acting as this is the same thing, to defend an absolute garbage of a film that is RoS, and how shitty Knights of Ren were.
Nah these guys are just side characters that are there to hunt Han Solo and give context to the story. The Knights of Ren is something that was teased since Kyle got introduced “you that command the knights of..” and then added to nothing, they even mentioned how their weapons were unique in promos.
I mean there is a difference between a couple of cool designs that are not meant to play a particularly large role, and a group that was built up to over 3 films ending up being a lot of nothing.
I do agree that Boba Fett is and was wildly overhyped, but that was a fan decision, not a studio one.
okay, sure. Boba Fett was plot critical in that movie and the other bounty hunters added menace to the scene. The Knights of Ren, on the other hand, were implied to be directly tied to Kylo and ended up so tangential that comic books had to retcon a reason they were ever connected.
In fairness, Bossk and Boba Fett are extremely expanded upon characters in the prequels, Clone Wars and EU. The Knights of Ren have almost nothing. Soule’s backstory for them is so bare bones that it’s almost comical.
I literally just rewatched all three of those movies and couldn’t even remember them based on this pic. I thought they were the pirate group from Solo lmao
Alot of people gave solo shit but i think as a heist fan a heist in the starwars universe was just the right kinda corny for starwars.
And that dude got alot of the gestures of han down so it was actually easy to ignore the face.
I think the movie’s like, alright, but damn I loooooved Alden Ehrenreich as Han. He was so good and made the character his own while still keeping true to his mannerisms and the fact that Disney’s lesson taken from that movie was “never recast a character” is insanity lol
I get why people werent thrilled with it. That end was a tad bloated but it had the right spirit and played the heaist tropes well, it coulda been way worse. It coulda been 9
The heist part was fine, it was spending so much of the plot time answering questions no one asked like “How did Han Solo get his last name?” that weighed the thing down.
Yeah i dont think anyone needed a why solo? scene.
But i never found the compliants of "over explianing" starwars that compelling.
After all it was decades people moaned about midichlorians even though the og trilogy explicitly stated the skywalker family was especially strong in the force.
The third movie was set up for Kylo to be the big bad guy and for these dudes to be his terrifying private military — there was even a vision of this in the first film!! — and all of that was thrown away because corporate execs got scared of fanguys on Twitter
Yeah I love but fight but if you look closely the choreography kind of shit the only one that did it better was episode 1 with Darth maul and that music dual of fates chefs kiss
I'm gonna be a party pooper entirely here. Yes that was the coolest fight in the trilogy. But they
choreographers got flabby with these ones. The prequels spoiled us with masterfully done choreography and that was the most dissapointing thing from the sequels.
They seem a lot more barbaric in nature. Less refined. I'm not a sequel hater by any means, however kylo should've messed Rey up with how bad her technique was in 7. The duels in 9 were peak for the sequels.
I'm not a Steven seagal fella so I'll have to take your word for it. Prequels feels more like a dance at moments but that gives it a certain charm. Really some of the best fighting we ever got out of star wars came from the clone wars show. Also some of the worst.
There are definitely aws everywhere. Just to clarify my comment isn't saying prequels are perfect. As I said to someone less polite than you, I am critical about all of star wars.
Also we can't be mad that obi wan never developed a counter to the "Force kick" move😂
People aren’t hype on it because of choreography (which is good; your problem is more the editing) but about what it says about Rey & Ren as characters: how they’ve reached a point on their respective personal journeys where they momentarily stand united as equals, even though it doesn’t last.
In episode 9 they kinda fixed that issue. Rey fighting with kylo on top of the death star remains is one of my favourite sequel fights. Gives Rey the character building moment of giving into her rage and ultimately sending her on a path to what we got in the film
I never said it was perfect. Sometimes I think it gets too flashy at points. Like here was a moment I'd say too flashy. But they do explain what's happening in the book. Nerd response yeah but we are talking about space wizards dueling with laser swords and magic powers.
Very critical of literally everything in star wars. Idk where you got the impression I obsess over anything considering this is my only star wars post on blue sky. Unfortunately I've had some twitter brained responses such as yours who seem to think I'm a sequel hater or a prequel fanboy.
We know little about the Nine yet they have a much greater impact as they are the symbol of the might of Sauron, the Witch-King having conquered Arnor. I’m sure LFLtd has this idea for the Rens, but misunderstood why the Nazgûl and Revan work, the latter surpassing Kylo in every way.
My favorite is how the Rey vs. TIE fighter sequence is one of the few things in the film that’s genuinely original and engaging…and it was still edited & presented better in the trailer than the actual film.
There really isn’t a sufficient amount of JJ Abrams blaming going on in this thread.
The King of zero original thought just steering the ship into the jagged rocks to appease Disney.
That's some ignorant shit to say. The film was originally meant to be 3 hours long and it wasn't Abrams who ordered it to be cut down to 2h12m resulting in many deleted scenes.
There even was an entire series of comics about them, Snoke and Kylo, yet then they pulled "Somehow, Palpatine returned" and these guys got the treatment of nameless Stormtroopers.
It's insane how the sequels had literally zero planning behind the story, no overarching narrative, just plain chaos.
I know I wanted to see these guys do something but the more they kept doing nothing the more I kept wanting them to do nothing. So by the time they finally throw down I was disappointed.
the Knights of Ren were kind of like space pirates who hunted down Sith artifacts in an attempt to gain their power, it was explored much more in the comics
they took in Ben because he was kind of like the ultimate collectible for them, kind of like when Nic Cage married Lisa Marie Presley
Would have been cool if they helped him and Rey overthrow Snoke, and she had to fight through them to escape after. Kinda like Halo 3 when the Flood help you kill Truth.
It was so disappointing because TLJ really heavily set up this idea that they were the other jedi students who followed Kylo Ren, and someone could've done a lot in setting them up as like, proper villains with personalities and done stuff with that?
This shit is pretty par for the course for Star Wars, but it is especially egregious for the Sequel Trilogy considering how much fanfare and presumed importance they’re given in TFA only to do nothing but give Ben Solo a cool fight scene you can barely fucking see in the third movie.
Oh I totally agree, it is largely a fan-created issue. Watching The Last Jedi and not seeing the Knights of Ren at all was refreshing to me so that the film could focus on things that actually mattered. Of course, their re-inclusion in ROS was a big mistake on Abrams’ part.
The First Order… see, years later we can’t even get the name of the main bad guys right consistently, cos they have no identity other than “the Empire except we can’t call them that any more”…
No, you forgot the sequel in which the 80s band New Order dominated the Star Wars galaxy. It was a sad era, but the techno weapons were hauntingly poetic.
I spent years wondering what a Ren was. it became a running joke among my friends. then they turned out to be Space Hooligans. absolute clownery. such potential for a Dark Side ensemble just . . . thrown away
I second-guessed myself and had to check comments to make sure I did in fact have the right guys.
The armed ute and caravan that Hemsworth's guys captured near the start of Furiosa had more character development and memorability than these guys who were thrown in the last film to check off a box
[wet farts, evil C-3PO, hyperspace skipping, convenient backup file, "hey hey!", knife that is a map, fake death, horses, "Rey, yer a Palpatine", Han Solo force ghost, true love's kiss, a whole lot of lightning]
My fav bit of Ep 9 lore is the woman who tweeted about being in a theatre watching Little Women, and Star Wars was playing next door, and the soundproofing was sub-par, so during the super-sad death scene everyone in the Little Women theatre heard Babu Frik saying "hey hey!"
Bro, I've been trying to word how its weird how homogeneous so much of scifi design these days feels because I legitimately couldn't tell if this was Star Wars, Dune, Mad Max, Rebel moon, or some indie product
Like the designs are sick but so much just looks the same as everything else
I've never seen the Dune movies because I wanna wait to see how far they get with them before I commit, so from an outside observer, it just all looks the same, vaugely deserty, dark clothing and head gear.
Im sure they're great. That seems to be the consensus. I just dont know as a non viewer
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am i going insane? how are people forgetting boba fett was the one who tracked the crew to cloud city! he didn’t fall for han’s trick!
Mind you i can nearly qoute the shit as i watch it. (My husband had to stop me from doing it to the entirety of phantom menace cause yes that script is in my head forever) but still how do they think boba didnt catch him when hes standing rightthr
I know he didnt get to do alot but the dude beat our heros without firing a shot just cause vader told him he couldnt vaporize them.
Without boba luke still has both hands! Does anyone pay attention?
Maul-cut in half, jango+dooku decapitated,palps also tossed in hole
Its a sacred practice from yonder galaxies.And Carrie fisher is there but dont worry well pretend chewy died and take it back to suckout all emotion.
https://youtu.be/MPPumo1ocbc?si=CKkBZHqS1n8wqVys
"yeah no one can talk shit about Boba Fett in the originals ever again"
This group of diverse, cool-looking bounty hunters is here to illustrate the threat that comes with the bounty on Han Solo, and to further prop up Boba Fett, the guy who actually catches him at the end.
The Knights of Ren are there to sell toys, maybe set up some spinoffs, and die.
They're meant to be directly tied to a main character, and jack shit nothing comes of it.
Can you explain to me what the Knights of Ren do in the plot of the sequel trilogy?
It IS all the same and Star Wars fucking sucks aside from maybe Empire Strikes Back
How do you people get off on saying the things people like are shit. Is your life that sad you have to try to make others sad?
I do agree that Boba Fett is and was wildly overhyped, but that was a fan decision, not a studio one.
They died!
😎
And that dude got alot of the gestures of han down so it was actually easy to ignore the face.
But i never found the compliants of "over explianing" starwars that compelling.
After all it was decades people moaned about midichlorians even though the og trilogy explicitly stated the skywalker family was especially strong in the force.
choreographers got flabby with these ones. The prequels spoiled us with masterfully done choreography and that was the most dissapointing thing from the sequels.
Also we can't be mad that obi wan never developed a counter to the "Force kick" move😂
If you need CG to make a fight choreography work, is it a choreography ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LMZk0QC3CE&t=87s&ab_channel=FilmGob
Who cares lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBExyfw8mXk&ab_channel=EmpireWreckers
The King of zero original thought just steering the ship into the jagged rocks to appease Disney.
Cloverfield=Kaiju movie
Star Trek= Original Star Trek
Super 8= ET
Fringe = X-Files.
He’s a regurgitator of preexisting concepts.
It's insane how the sequels had literally zero planning behind the story, no overarching narrative, just plain chaos.
What are they going to do with them ?
they took in Ben because he was kind of like the ultimate collectible for them, kind of like when Nic Cage married Lisa Marie Presley
Who knows who is steering the ship over there.
You don't need a detailed backstory on every individual but there should be an idea of where they fit in the New Order (itself far too vague a group).
The armed ute and caravan that Hemsworth's guys captured near the start of Furiosa had more character development and memorability than these guys who were thrown in the last film to check off a box
[wet farts, evil C-3PO, hyperspace skipping, convenient backup file, "hey hey!", knife that is a map, fake death, horses, "Rey, yer a Palpatine", Han Solo force ghost, true love's kiss, a whole lot of lightning]
John Williams' score
Absolute master of his craft.
(I might've been including that one in the "wet farts" category, but you're not wrong to call it out specifically)
(kidding aside, that does in fact suck but lol, precedent)
Right? The knights fight Rey and Kylo at the end?
I would maybe say that they probably did have more seconds fighting but people remember jetpack and grapling hook more
And smart to not watch RoS (though I’m one of the weirdos who rather liked TLJ, more than Awakens, and a billion times more than RoS).
Like the designs are sick but so much just looks the same as everything else
Im sure they're great. That seems to be the consensus. I just dont know as a non viewer
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